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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: petre on May 12, 2007, 11:49:16 PM
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Hey, folks, remember me? What do you think of Ron Paul? I like him because he is a libertarian, which I am, and is against foreign entanglements abroad.
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He's a Constitutionalist, which makes him appear as an anachronism in the Washington, D.C. of 2007.
I used to like him quite a bit, but lately he's expressed views which appear to place him in the "unfriendly to Jews" category.
Considering the fact that there are no Democrat candidates friendly to Jews, I'd rather Ron Paul become the President than have Clinton or Obama in power.
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Do neither of you listen to Chaim? Ron Paul is a NAZI who is an ally of every Islamic genocidocracy in existence (especially Hezbollah and Syria) and blames all of America's troubles on a "Likud conspiracy". Don't forget he also supports homosexuals and wants to legalize drugs.
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Do neither of you listen to Chaim? Ron Paul is a NAZI who is an ally of every Islamic genocidocracy in existence (especially Hezbollah and Syria) and blames all of America's troubles on a "Likud conspiracy". Don't forget he also supports homosexuals and wants to legalize drugs.
I actually don't listen to online radio, and I don't have access to TV or Chaim's station on the broadcast.
A Nazi wears a swastika, calls for ethnically cleansing Jews, denies the Holocaust and praises Hitler. Paul hasn't done any of that.
He believes in neutrality, not picking sides, which is good for Israel.
He only mentioned Likud once.
And one more point, Paul is a paleolibertarian. They are traditionalists and would not support abortion or homosexuality but believe it is a state issue. The stereotypical libertarian who is on weed is more of the liberal variety.
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Do neither of you listen to Chaim? Ron Paul is a NAZI who is an ally of every Islamic genocidocracy in existence (especially Hezbollah and Syria) and blames all of America's troubles on a "Likud conspiracy". Don't forget he also supports homosexuals and wants to legalize drugs.
I think Paul is similar to Buchanan except Paul doesn't categorize himself as a "paleo-conservative."
Neutrality would probably be good except for the fact that it isn't an option as long as Iran is continuing its nuclear weapons program. Iran is farther along than Iraq ever was. I think Don Rumsfeld knew this (Rumsfeld Commission from 1998) so I'm not sure why he wanted to invade Iraq.
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He is far from neutral. He blames all that is wrong in the Middle East on Israel.
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I actually agree with Buchanan on many fronts, but certainly not on everything.
Paul is better. For example, Buchanan feels all immigration is bad, whereas Paul is against only illegal immigration and immigrants who can't assimilate.
Buchanan is against all free trade, whereas Paul is against international bodies but is for unilateral free trade.
Buchanan has had an animus against Israel since the Iraq war or even since 9/11, whereas I have found Paul not blaming every Mideast problem on Israel and advocating neutrality.
Read him on www.house.gov/paul
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I actually agree with Buchanan on many fronts, but certainly not on everything.
Paul is better. For example, Buchanan feels all immigration is bad, whereas Paul is against only illegal immigration and immigrants who can't assimilate.
Buchanan is against all free trade, whereas Paul is against international bodies but is for unilateral free trade.
Buchanan has had an animus against Israel since the Iraq war or even since 9/11, whereas I have found Paul not blaming every Mideast problem on Israel and advocating neutrality.
Read him on www.house.gov/paul
I think Buchanan always disliked Israel.
Duncan Hunter is a better candidate than Paul.
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For your information, anyone who wants the Arab Muslim Nazis to succeed in destroying Israel IS a Nazi.
The Nazi Ron Paul has blamed all of America's problems on the "neo-cons" whom he identifies as being associated with Israel's Likud party. Only a filthy Nazi pig would write something so absurd. The neo-cons are ANTI-ISRAEL - they support the Jew-hating Bush "road map" which calls upon the tiny Jewish state to surrender EVERYTHING including Jerusalem, and then to surrender Israel's very sovereignty to the "Quartet".
But the Nazi pig Ron Paul claims that the neo-cons are all part of a Jewish conspiracy linked to the Likud party.
Fortunately, this weird-looking and weird-sounding piece of Nazi garbage will only get a handful of votes. Both he and his Nazi supporters will have a very warm place in the fires of hell together with all other enemies of G-d's Chosen People.
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I actually agree with Buchanan on many fronts, but certainly not on everything.
Paul is better. For example, Buchanan feels all immigration is bad, whereas Paul is against only illegal immigration and immigrants who can't assimilate.
Buchanan is against all free trade, whereas Paul is against international bodies but is for unilateral free trade.
Buchanan has had an animus against Israel since the Iraq war or even since 9/11, whereas I have found Paul not blaming every Mideast problem on Israel and advocating neutrality.
Read him on www.house.gov/paul
I think Buchanan always disliked Israel.
Duncan Hunter is a better candidate than Paul.
Hunter isn't that great. He is too worried about evil immigrants and "trade deficits" with the far east, so he will impose super high tariffs. But he is more pro-Israel.
Read Buchanan's books and columns from before the Gulf War and during the Cold War. He was very pro-Israel then.
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For your information, anyone who wants the Arab Muslim Nazis to succeed in destroying Israel IS a Nazi.
The Nazi Ron Paul has blamed all of America's problems on the "neo-cons" whom he identifies as being associated with Israel's Likud party. Only a filthy Nazi pig would write something so absurd. The neo-cons are ANTI-ISRAEL - they support the Jew-hating Bush "road map" which calls upon the tiny Jewish state to surrender EVERYTHING including Jerusalem, and then to surrender Israel's very sovereignty to the "Quartet".
But the Nazi pig Ron Paul claims that the neo-cons are all part of a Jewish conspiracy linked to the Likud party.
Fortunately, this weird-looking and weird-sounding piece of Nazi garbage will only get a handful of votes. Both he and his Nazi supporters will have a very warm place in the fires of hell together with all other enemies of G-d's Chosen People.
Can you show me where he said the only part about being a neocon is indentifying with Likud or that all the world's problems are blamed on them? Also, when did he want Israel to be destroyed?
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I'm voting for Ron Paul.
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Then I have to wonder whether you are StørmFrønt.
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I'm voting for Ron Paul.
Great. There is one famous Christian Zionist for Paul. I have seen you on www.StørmFrønt.org, it came up through a www.googlecom search. But you were just advertising your book Beyond Babylon. You also posted on the Hannity Forum right? www.hannity.com/forum
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David ben-Ariel, here is the article that you printed on your website:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=4634.0
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He's a Constitutionalist, which makes him appear as an anachronism in the Washington, D.C. of 2007.
I used to like him quite a bit, but lately he's expressed views which appear to place him in the "unfriendly to Jews" category.
Considering the fact that there are no Democrat candidates friendly to Jews, I'd rather Ron Paul become the President than have Clinton or Obama in power.
I agree. I think there is so much of a need for a Constitutionalist to reverse the past 60+ years of Constituational attacks and Federal Expansion. I agree with Massuah. It was the constitution and free enterprise capitalism that allowed America to become the nation that it is....also based on Torah teachings....which socialism has largely distroyed.
I heard Blumberg will be running to split the Republican vote to ensure that nazi slut Clinton will be President. What a fraud. I'm sorry but I will not lose a second of sleep of some righteous gentile sends them all to meet Arafat, Mohammed, Hitler and Stalin with Allah.....treasonous bastards.
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How can someone be a "Christian Zionist" and vote for this Nazi?
This, and some of you, are making me sick--still supporting this monster even after Jimmy personally intervened in this thread to state what he believes in.
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How can someone be a "Christian Zionist" and vote for this Nazi?
This, and some of you, are making me sick--still supporting this monster even after Jimmy personally intervened in this thread to state what he believes in.
I've just read what Jimmy wrote but the fact is what is the difference between a Clinton or a Paul under the same situation. Jimmy states he is a Nazi, so is Clinton. Bush is not at all better. The fact that Likud are political whores and too Globalists like the Kadima and Labor.. To tell you the truth there isn't much difference. From what I read, Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist and a Constitutionalist is GOOD for America. America has, for far too long, entered into and provided funding for those wishing to push Internatioanlism: Globalism: NWO agenda since the days of Woodrow Wilson. America must get out of all of this internationalist garbage, end their foreign aid, close their borders and start the mass deportations of illegals and criminal vermin.
I don't know how Jimmy arrived at Ron Paul being a Nazi but I do know that Hillary Cliton is much closer to a Leftist Stalin than Paul would be. You Americans are in for one hell of a corrupted choice. To me it is very blatant that it is passed the process of a vote as both candidates would, 60 years ago, have been tried for treason....
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MarZutra, you are failing to see the forest for the trees. To Paul, "Likud" is a Nazi codeword for Israel the same way "banker" or "insider" is a codeword for Jew. Of course he isn't gonna outright say Jews or Israel are behind America's problems, so he uses a more clinical-sounding term that many people won't bother to look up the meaning of.
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Regarding foreign policy, Ron Paul is essentially a non-interventionist. He refers to the thinking of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson that America should avoid foreign entanglements. He opposed the war in Kosovo and the war in Iraq.
Likewise, he calls the Middle East a pathological mess, an irrational inferno on which America has poured gasoline by hypocritically supporting both sides. He quotes what Ronald Reagan wrote to this effect, after the slaughter of hundreds of U.S. Marines in the Beirut suicide bombing. (Paul opposed sending them there.)
But Ron Paul is indeed an Israel-hater. He buys into the false concepts of "P_a_l_e_s_t_i_n_e" and the "West Bank", and he called the recent war in Lebanon "Israeli aggression", and was one of only eight U.S. representatives, out of over 400, to oppose a House resolution giving tacit approval to attacks on Syria and Iran.
He has also called Israel's 1980s rescue mission in southern Lebanon "occupation", and Israeli military action against the Arab Muslim terrorists of Gaza "aggression".
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Ok, so what you both are saying that there really is no choice because the Clintons are the same and have even has Bill's anti-Israel policies on record. Perhaps Paul is what Israel needs. Perhaps then the Jewish anti-Jews will finally clue in that they are and will always be Jews so they might as well support Israel as our "Jewish" organizations do not do. Perhaps Paul will cut off Israel from her foreign aid. Perhaps a Paul will make Jews clue in and make alyiah to have a real Jewish government and if the ARabs attack again, Israel will have a green light to finally finnish the job if Paul doesn't want foreign entanglements.
There are no good here than. Clinton Nazi vs Paul Nazi...who is better for America because both are horrible for Jews and Israel.
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Paul Nazi would be a non-factor (and he actually already is) if the right would support Duncan Hunter, the REAL non-interventionist (and lover of Israel and our border).
Nazi Paul would send our soldiers into battle on the side of Syria and Iran. Do you really want that?
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Paul Nazi would be a non-factor (and he actually already is) if the right would support Duncan Hunter, the REAL non-interventionist (and lover of Israel and our border).
Nazi Paul would send our soldiers into battle on the side of Syria and Iran. Do you really want that?
I don't know if he'd do that. Perhaps another 911 would wake him up. From what I read on him, he was a Constitutionalist which is not actually bad but quite good. I was unaware of all of this you are stating now...but I still see no difference between what he'd do to what Clinton would do. The only difference I see is that this Ron Paul fellow would have the testicles to confront his antisemitism while the Clintons would do it subvertly while voicing one position and doing the opposite. Now Duncan Hunter I hear it was good.
In the end there really is no choice because it is so corrupted now. Liberal Globalists vs Socialist Globalists.... damned if you do and damned if you don't... this is what I see. The fact that Blumberg is running to split the Republican vote to ensure Hillary Clinton (with a horrible rating) to win to me displays a obscene level of corruption...
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Confront his anti-Semitism? What in the world do you mean? He IS an anti-Semite!!! Why would he confront himself?
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He voices his opinions while those like Clinton do not. That is what I meant.
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So, Hitler voiced his opinions too...
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I hate Ron Paul.
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I hate all Nazi fags and dykes.
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Is Ron Paul Right wing or Left Wing? My liking for Paul comes not from his views towards Jews but from what I read about him being a Constitutionalist. America needs one that will sincerely try to reverse the last 60+ years of elitist/socialist federal expansionism and undermining of the Constitution. I have said that the comments you have shown concerning Ron Paul and Jews are new to me. Can he be any worse than what is in power in Israel or the Clintons in all honesty? They are all charrah and are not friends of the Jewish people. I'd argue the contra. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
If Ron Paul is a "Right Wing" individual it is impossible for him to be a Nazi. An antisemite yes but not a Nazi as Nazism is ultra-Leftwing political/social ideology...this is what is confusing me....
You make a great point that "Hitler voiced his opinion too"....that is exactly my point. Someone like Hitler, could have been dealt with long before he took power solely due to his voiceing his views while the Clinton and Abbas's of this World publically praise while attack in private.
The fact of the matter is, it is all one big sham. There is no choice. Hunter will not be allowed to run because he is the best candidate. If Hunter did run these elitists would simply place another Republican on the ticket splitting the Right vote to allow Hillary to win. It is all one big sham...
We can agree to disagree on issues. There are many things I agree with and others I simply do not. For example this entire Oil issue. I love oil. I love nice cars. If a Nazi throws a rock through your window....does one blame the rock or the nazi that threw it? It is illogical to blame the rock no? Sorry to digress, I don't see any real canditates that would ever be allowed to run solely for the Republicans as I fear the American political system is as honest as a greasy Muslim used camel salesmen/trader....
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Ron Paul is a libertarian. He doesn't believe in Israel's existence in any religious sense whatsoever. The Arabs have more financially to offer America than Israel so he would take the side of the Arabs.
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Did any of you watch any of the debate on FoxNews?
I don't remember what the exact questions was directed at Ron Paul.
However, Paul made a statement that the US deserved the attack on 9/11 because the US had Iraq on sanctions, their people were living in bad conditions and because the US attacked Iraq. He must have been referring to when Clinton was "wagging the dog." I don't think he meant the first Gulf War because that wasn't exactly an attack on Iraq, more of defending Saudia Arabia from Iraq's advances.
Paul's statement also implies that Saddam was part of 9/11. But since Paul was against the Iraq War, he couldn't have thought Saddam was part of 9/11. So Paul also contradicted himself last night.
Giuliani immediate refuted Paul's statement.
The following below wasn't considered by Paul:
During the Cold War, the US was part of a coalition that helped end communism in Afghanistan. The mujahideens liked this. Eventually, the Taliban emerged to take control of Afghanistan. So no, that intervention did not cause the Taliban to hate the US. Ron Paul doesn't realize this.
They hate Western culture. Osama Bin-Laden wants Shiara laws imposed. Ron Paul doesn't realize this. Ron Paul doesn't realize this.
Paul also seems to blame terrorists dislike of the US on US support of Israel. Of course, he sees the "road map" as support for Israel. To Paul, the only way to not support Israel is to advocate for its destruction.
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If you're talking about a smaller federal government, Tancredo supports that and Hunter probably does also. It's hard to get things done though. Giuliani probably does also.
Tancredo slammed McCain last night because McCain said when Republicans controlled Congress, they "spent like drunken sailors." Tancredo considered him a hypocrite because McCain voted for those bills.
Tancredo wants to get rid of the "No Child Left Behind Act" and the federal prescription drug program (I think it's part of medicare).
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I'll vote for Duncan Hunter maybe Tom tancredo.If Fred Thomson runs i'll probably vote for him
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I'll vote for Duncan Hunter maybe Tom tancredo.If Fred Thomson runs i'll probably vote for him
I think Duncan Hunter has better credentials than Tancredo. Hunter has a patriotic military background; nothing like John Kerry's.
Thompson is perceived as lazy so he'll probably need to show interest if he wants to get the nomination. What do you like about Thompson? He served in the Senate for one term. I don't know much about his voting record though.
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You are all more informed on this Paul fellow than I am. I had only read that he was a Constitutionalist like the JB'ers but apparently I'm wrong. I do like Tancredo and Hunter. G-d willing the elitists that rule America will allow a fair election with the best representatives and not split the vote. I do hope something good comes out of the elections as I see America has been bent over and railed ever since FDR or even Woodrow Wilson. Here's hoping for the best...
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There are 2 main reasons the Arabs killed themselves to attack Americans:
Occupation of Muslim Holy Sites in Saudi Arabia.
One sided support for Israel.
Withdraw troops from Arabia and find a different energy source. Cut all foreign aid from Israel so it doesn't appear that the US is funding its wars against the Arabs.
This is Paul's position. With that and his belief in securing the border, how do you think he'll make the US less safe? I can't see how nation building is the better option.
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There are 2 main reasons the Arabs killed themselves to attack Americans:
Actually, there is just one: The Koran.
How does Paul intend to reconcile bloodthirsty maniacs with our national security?
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Petre, why are you a member of this forum if you are against Israel?
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I am for Israel. I just don't think all Muslims are murderous thieves. It's just that Islamic culture is imcompatible with Western culture. That is why the west needs to separate from Islam. A Ron Paul presidency will far more easily achieve that effect than that of Newt Gingrich, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson etc.
I also believe that since Israel is part of the west, it will eventually have to give many of the Palestinians of the West Bank independence instead of ruling over them while denying them citizenship and voting rights at the same time.
I am Jewish by the way.
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Also, don't you think Ron Paul is great for America, regardless of Israel?
He is for more federalism and states rights, as mandated by the 9th and 10th amendments. He is for libertarian principles here and abroad. He will allow Jews and Christians in the US to adhere to their faith not hindered by government interference and excessive taxation.
He will crack down on illegals and allow white Euro-Americans to retain their majority status if they so choose.
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I also believe that since Israel is part of the west, it will eventually have to give many of the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis of the West Bank independence instead of ruling over them while denying them citizenship and voting rights at the same time.
I am Jewish by the way.
You are barking up the wrong tree, my Jewish friend. Search this site for Rabbi Kahane e-books, read at least one chapter of each, and post something that makes sense.
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You are kidding yourself if you think Paul will do any of the sort. His only goal is to help the Muslim Nazis take over the world.
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You are kidding yourself if you think Paul will do any of the sort. His only goal is to help the Muslim Nazis take over the world.
Exactly. He is nothing more than a modern day, considerably less handsome version of Lindbergh.
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I read Rabbi Kahane. You can think Israel can rule over a majority population that has no voting rights or rights in court ad infinitum? What else do you propose?
As for Paul:
www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html
www.antiwar.com/paul
Ron Paul is a libertarian. He gives each and everyone of us individual choice. He is against the Iraq war which is good. He is against illegal immigration, which is good. He is against social security which is good. if you don't believe me, read up on him on the websites I posted.
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Ron Paul is the redneck Pat Buchanan.
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I read Rabbi Kahane. You can think Israel can rule over a majority population that has no voting rights or rights in court ad infinitum? What else do you propose?
Rav Kahane ztz''l already gave us the ultimate answer: throw them out.
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Trump... I agree 100%. Rabbi Kahane is very blunt on his transfering the Arab Muslim fifth column. As a matter of fact Dr. Eugene Narrett's latest book "WW3 the War on the Jews" is fantastic and he takes it to the next step past Rabbi Kahane. Www.IsraelEndTimes.Com. He will be on Dr. Stanley Monteith's Radio Liberty next week as well for interview...
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who is he?
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Eugene Narrett is a Right Wing Orthodox Jew who teaches in a liberal University in Mass some place. He is often a guest on Israel National Radio. He is a friend of mine. He wrote 3 books so far and man academic papers. His books are: "Jerusalem Surrounded", "Israel and the End Times" and "WW3 the War on the Jews". I just finnished his latest work and it is quite well written and packed full of factual information...
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I read Rabbi Kahane. You can think Israel can rule over a majority population that has no voting rights or rights in court ad infinitum? What else do you propose?
Throw them out. Let them go to one of the 22 other Arab countries. They're no longer our problem. Right now they're guests. And they're not welcome in the house of the Lord.
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I read Rabbi Kahane. You can think Israel can rule over a majority population that has no voting rights or rights in court ad infinitum? What else do you propose?
Amen brother...Amen..
Throw them out. Let them go to one of the 22 other Arab countries. They're no longer our problem. Right now they're guests. And they're not welcome in the house of the Lord.
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petre, if you are really Jewish, then you are one of the most disgusting self-hating cowards I have ever seen in my life.
You say America is one-sidedly pro-Israel? You filthy lying swine. America has done everything possible to destroy Israel. America has relentlessly pressured Israel to commit national suicide. America does not even recognize Israel's right to her own capital city of Jerusalem, and demands that Israel surrender her own capital city.
And then you claim that America's supposed support for Israel is a reason why Muslim Nazi terrorists murder thousands of Americans, and promise to destroy the United States, and promise to exterminate every non-Muslim on the face of the earth. The Muslim Nazi terrorists do this because of Israel, according to Nazis like you. You Nazi pig. You should burn in the same hell as the Nazi Ron Paul.
You are the scum of the earth, you gutless worm. If there's one thing I hate with a passion, it's a cowardly Jewish traitor who is disloyal to his own people.
Didn't you write me an e-mail telling me that you speak Hebrew fluently? Write a response to this in Hebrew if that's true.
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Seems to me he could be StørmFrønt, Jimmy. Yacov, I am saying he MIGHT be, not that I know for sure that he is.
I have a hard time believing he is a Jew, self-hating or not. I guess he MIGHT be Revava though.
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Chaimfan, in this case, you might be right.
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Yacov: That in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot. The web is full of pseudo-Kahanists and pseudo-conservatives in general.
Jimmy: My first guess is this guy is StørmFrønt. Revava a distant second.
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Chaimfan, there are some very sick, self-hating Jews out there. It's possible he is a self-hating Jew.
But he seems obsessed with sneaking in Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan/John Birch Society anti-Israel propaganda. That makes him a vicious Jew-hater and a defender of Islamic terrorism, but not necessarily StørmFrønt. There are all types of Jew-hating, pro-Muslim groups out there.
StørmFrønt are mainly young male homosexuals who like to call themselves Nazis.
But there are many different varieties of Nazi Jew-hatred. The Ron Paul/John Birch Society types would deny that they are Nazis even though they would be delighted if Israel were exterminated, G-d forbid. These types would never wear swastikas or admit that they agree with Hitler's "final solution". But they defend Nazi war criminals whom they claim are being "persecuted" by the Jews. And they defend the Muslim terrorists and blame Israel for all of America's problems. And they write books as Pat Buchanan did, claiming that Hitler was "misunderstood", he wasn't really THAT bad. And they attack Christian leaders who defend little Israel - as Ron Paul has done.
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Ron Paul recently blamed 9/11 on American intervention oversees.
What a nutjob. It really shows how when you're FAR-right or FAR-left things overlap.
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petre, if you are really Jewish, then you are one of the most disgusting self-hating cowards I have ever seen in my life.
You say America is one-sidedly pro-Israel? You filthy lying swine. America has done everything possible to destroy Israel. America has relentlessly pressured Israel to commit national suicide. America does not even recognize Israel's right to her own capital city of Jerusalem, and demands that Israel surrender her own capital city.
And then you claim that America's supposed support for Israel is a reason why Muslim Nazi terrorists murder thousands of Americans, and promise to destroy the United States, and promise to exterminate every non-Muslim on the face of the earth. The Muslim Nazi terrorists do this because of Israel, according to Nazis like you. You Nazi pig. You should burn in the same hell as the Nazi Ron Paul.
You are the scum of the earth, you gutless worm. If there's one thing I hate with a passion, it's a cowardly Jewish traitor who is disloyal to his own people.
Didn't you write me an e-mail telling me that you speak Hebrew fluently? Write a response to this in Hebrew if that's true.
This I was thinking too myself on. Jimmy you are on top of things...good for you. The only posts I've read from this fellow are his views on that Ron Paul fellow, of which I was largely wrong on him...as I am not very familiar with him. I guess for the record it is impossible for the Far Right to be like the Far Left. The ultimate example of a far right wing political and social ideology is Total Freedom/Anarchy while the ultimate example of a Far Left is Nazi/Communism No freedom and total government. Just like to clear that up with the posters here...
More sadly, it is not only America that is no real "friend of Israel". I'd like to add the entire EU, Britian and Canada to the equation as well as Israel itself... Canada is getting better re: Israel BUT it is still a "multi cultural" democracy which is getting more Socialist and more Islamic by the hour...
I'd like to ask what Israel has to do with the Muslim terrorism and Islamic expansionism in Chad, Sudan, India, Iraq, Europe, Russia...etc. or the Iran/Iraq War, the first Lebanon War... of course... the answer is nothing... nothing at all...
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Thunderbolt writes: "...Ron Paul recently blamed 9/11 on American intervention oversees. What a nutjob. It really shows how when you're FAR-right or FAR-left things overlap."
According to some posters on the forum, America's history of overseas intervention is blameless, flawless; not subject to question.
If American intervention overseas is always good, then Kahanists must praise the U.S. for demanding Israel's suicide, must praise the U.S. for refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capitol, must praise Bush & Condi for arming & financing the PLO/Hamas, must praise Condi for demanding Israel retreat from Hezbollah in Lebanon; allowing Hezbollah to continue to rearm and continue holding Israeli hostages, etc...
America has just tripled the size of Saudi Arabia's high-tech airforce & other weaponry, to the detriment of Israeli defense capabilities.
I could list numerous other American interventions in the affairs of Israel, but will stop here for considerations of the forum.
It is possible that youth, along with inattention to history, have combined; convincing some posters on our forum that "history began last week".
It is also possible that a Washington "insider", viewing first hand the workings of AIPAC, Wolfowitz, Perle, and the representatives of the despised Olmert Government, may perceive the Israelis and their associates in Washington as irrational, untrustworthy; a subversive influence on American policy.
Indeed, Rabbi Kahane castigated the ruling Leftists in Israel unmercifully; accurately foretelling the eventual fallout with the U.S. that Israel would experience if it pursued the so-called "Peace Process" (it being one more American overseas interventionist scheme) and if Israel relied solely on America for its protection and sovereignty.
So...I am asking all to now express their views regarding American interventionism overseas.
Unless you can discuss our own current events, using history and its lessons as a basis for argument, then you are merely employing "jingoism" and "sloganeering"; in effect "shouting down those who disagree with you".
And, lest we forget, "shouting down and demonizing those who disagree with you" is the tactic used by the Labor/Likud/Kadima and almost all American Jewish organizations, to destroy Rabbi Meir Kahane and Chaim Ben Pesach...the tactic used by those who fear the truth.
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Thunderbolt writes: "...Ron Paul recently blamed 9/11 on American intervention oversees. What a nutjob. It really shows how when you're FAR-right or FAR-left things overlap."
According to some posters on the forum, America's history of overseas intervention is blameless, flawless; not subject to question.
If American intervention overseas is always good, then Kahanists must praise the U.S. for demanding Israel's suicide, must praise the U.S. for refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capitol, must praise Bush & Condi for arming & financing the PLO/Hamas, must praise Condi for demanding Israel retreat from Hezbollah in Lebanon; allowing Hezbollah to continue to rearm and continue holding Israeli hostages, etc...
America has just tripled the size of Saudi Arabia's high-tech airforce & other weaponry, to the detriment of Israeli defense capabilities.
I could list numerous other American interventions in the affairs of Israel, but will stop here for considerations of the forum.
It is possible that youth, along with inattention to history, have combined; convincing some posters on our forum that "history began last week".
It is also possible that a Washington "insider", viewing first hand the workings of AIPAC, Wolfowitz, Perle, and the representatives of the despised Olmert Government, may perceive the Israelis and their associates in Washington as irrational, untrustworthy; a subversive influence on American policy.
Indeed, Rabbi Kahane castigated the ruling Leftists in Israel unmercifully; accurately foretelling the eventual fallout with the U.S. that Israel would experience if it pursued the so-called "Peace Process" (it being one more American overseas interventionist scheme) and if Israel relied solely on America for its protection and sovereignty.
So...I am asking all to now express their views regarding American interventionism overseas.
Unless you can discuss our own current events, using history and its lessons as a basis for argument, then you are merely employing "jingoism" and "sloganeering"; in effect "shouting down those who disagree with you".
And, lest we forget, "shouting down and demonizing those who disagree with you" is the tactic used by the Labor/Likud/Kadima and almost all American Jewish organizations, to destroy Rabbi Meir Kahane and Chaim Ben Pesach...the tactic used by those who fear the truth.
Our foreign policy is for the large part garbage. I've talked about this on many threads. But to blame ISRAEL for Muslim terrorism is to distort the facts beyond recognition.
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Agreed.
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Ron Pauls wife
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Ron Pauls wife
Aunt Jemima is a nice lady, which is why her name is used in the same breath as "Uncle Tom" and "Oreo" to describe good blacks like Alan Keyes.
This is the kind of unintelligent and indefensible posting which only succeeds in making us look bad. It creates the same embarrassment for right-wingers as "dumb old white guy" Don Imus did with his "nappy-headed hos" remark.
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That was funny Mord....
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Aunt Jemima is a nice lady,
i agree and ron paul is a nice man..only the best for Ron Paul
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That is good...lol Mord, might you email me with your opinions of this Ron Paul fellow. He seems to be turning this forum into an ideological nightmare. Some on here support him and some say he's a Nazi... I thought he was a Constitutionalist but apparently he is not and is also an anti-Semite...but I'm not sure... Toda roba chavar..
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:D :D :he's a constitutionilists who appears on alex jones on other wacky sites
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That is good...lol Mord, might you email me with your opinions of this Ron Paul fellow. He seems to be turning this forum into an ideological nightmare. Some on here support him and some say he's a Nazi... I thought he was a Constitutionalist but apparently he is not and is also an anti-Semite...but I'm not sure... Toda roba chavar..
He is a Constitutionalist. I think he's supposed to be very similar to Pat Buchanan. The one problem with Paul is that he doesn't seem to understand that Islamic Jihad want their movement to be worldwide. He doesn't seem to comprehend that they refer to everyone who doesn't follow Islam, to be an infidel.
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RuPaul.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: you remind me of someone i just forgot who :laugh:
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Ron Paul's wife is Boy George, not Aunt Jemima. :P