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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: RightWingGentile on May 25, 2010, 05:33:07 PM
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To all:
I have read all the posts today since I got home from work, and I agree with most of you that state that we must be a united front in order to combat the evil, insidious left-wing media/arab-muslim nazi terrorist scum.
I am more than willing to extend an olive branch to people like Muman, who wrote an impassioned plea defending himself last night. Muman, I appreciate what you wrote, but please take care in the future to be more understanding of myself and other gentile members on the forum.
As for Dr. Brennan Fan, well, I still await an apology for you telling me to "choke on my own vomit and die". Then, perhaps, you will get an olive branch as well.
As for the rest of you: I am who I am, and I make no apologies. I am an extreme right-wing JTF'er, and I believe that my positions encapsulate what JTF is all about. For those of you who argue against "racism" against the schvartzas, let me once again state: have you watched JTF before? Have you ever heard our great leader preach?
I will continue to make posts against (what I perceive to be) the evil schvartzas and the heinous attempts by the media - including Disney and the NY Nazi Times - to glorify their grotesque and hideous culture. If you disagree, well, too bad. This is what I believe to be right, and what I believe is a central tenet of JTF.
You can rail against me and call me a WN, or accuse me of being from StørmFrønt, but it's just a waste of your time and energy. The truth is, I want what you want. I want an Israel where the Jewish people live freely and a righteous America run by true right-wingers in the fashion of the great Founding Fathers.
I still hold that I will defend myself when under attack, but I will try to be less combative - lest I be provoked.
In closing, let me relay one of my personal favorite Bible verse, from the Book of Psalms, Chapter 23, Verse 4: "Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for thou art with me; thy rod and staff comfort me". Although we as a united front will face malefactors at every angle, we most constantly be vigilant and remember this important verse. No matter how bad it may get in America and Israel, there will always be a light at the end of the tunnel. Shalom.
RWG
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Very well stated...
Thank you very much for the good word..
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Thank you, Rightwinggentile.
Now can you please tell us what else you like about JTF. We can tell already that you don't like black culture and how the media makes them look better than they are. What other positions of JTF do you agree with? Which ones do you disagree with? What kind of America do you want to see? Do you believe in American exceptionalism? What kind of Israel do you envision? Are you against land concessions by Israel? How do you think Israel should deal with her fifth column fakestinian population?
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I agree with everything that Chaim Ben Pesach has said on prior JTF programs, with the exception of all Jews having to live in Israel - because I'd be losing some great friends, the great Gimatria included!
I believe that America is the most exceptional place in the world, ergo I believe in American exceptionalism.
I want an America run by real right-wingers, and I want America to be the capital of the Christian world. I want to see abortion outlawed. I want strict immigration. I want a return to conservative values and the kind of culture that the Founding Fathers envisioned (one without homosexuals and blacks!).
I envision an Israel that will one day be entirely free of the Muslim Nazi threat and run by those who follow the Torah.
I am absolutely against any land concession by Israel.
I believe that all Arabs should be forcibly expelled from Israel - just as I believe all schvartzas should be sent to Africa, where those animals can swing from vines in the jungle like they were meant to! ZOT HI UVDA!
RWG
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Rwg great post. You are an awesome jtfer. I might have some future disagreements of HOW you express yourself, but I love you anyway. Keep fighting for what's right
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Here here, i agree with 98 percent of what RWG has to say, i think he goes a bit far with the racial slurs, but to be fair, i have been guilty with that, so thats is something i have to improve on.
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RWG,
As distasteful and outrageous and poorly behaved as some of them are, you, nor I, are the arbiters of who gets to live in this country. I would not want to live in a country run by anyone who thinks as you do. You are obsessed with hatred. You are yet another person who does not look at his own sinfulness, preferring to completely focus on supposedly externalized sources of sinfulness. While you have every right to be on this forum, you do not represent at least some of us here. You need to stop speaking as if you are Chaim Ben Pesach and as if you are the personification of the ideal Jtfer.
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You call yourself an "enthusiast", yet you are missing the ball on this critical issue. Chaim has said many times that he feels the blacks should be expelled to Africa - so how is my position so ridiculous? And, better yet, how am I speaking as if I'm Chaim when I'm merely repeating the words of our brilliant leader? I think that you are looking for any reason to tear me down, quite frankly.
RWG
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And I would also love to know how I purport to be "speaking for everyone in JTF". Please explain.
RWG
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You call yourself an "enthusiast", yet you are missing the ball on this critical issue. Chaim has said many times that he feels the blacks should be expelled to Africa - so how is my position so ridiculous? And, better yet, how am I speaking as if I'm Chaim when I'm merely repeating the words of our brilliant leader? I think that you are looking for any reason to tear me down, quite frankly.
RWG
Quite Frankly, I don't need to look very hard. All of your posts , without exception, are obsessed with hatred to the exclusion of anything else. Fine, your body, your mind, your choice. But you demand that other people follow your lead or else you threaten them with Gehenom. That is not your place to do in a forum where the rule is to show a modicum of respect for other people
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Did you not read the title of this thread?
RWG
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Did you not read the title of this thread?
RWG
What can I say RWG, then you are like all of us at one point or another: saying "A" with one breath and taking it away with the next.
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rWg - it seems clear to me that anyone who would respond to such a humble and reconciliatory message with open hostility, and ineloquent aggression is not worthy of a response.
There will always be those that are misguided and prone to contrarian-style conflict. It seems preposterous to me that after you clearly articulated your wonderful vision for this world, some would look to provoke you by shamefully going on the attack. Chaim used to say that we should "arm ourselves with facts and information", and you are clearly armed with substantial amounts of facts and information to back the positions you've articulated in this thread - yet some people will deny a simple truth even when it is presented cogently and politely. We must pick our battles, and embrace even those who are misguided and disagree with our ideology.
Gimatria
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As always, the great and courageous Gimatria speaks naught but truth! Perhaps, one day, the so-called "enthusiast" will be able to let go of the hatred in his heart and embrace his JTF brothers and sisters!
RWG
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Did you not read the title of this thread?
RWG
I like you RWG.
;D
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Nice post!
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RWG,
As distasteful and outrageous and poorly behaved as some of them are, you, nor I, are the arbiters of who gets to live in this country. I would not want to live in a country run by anyone who thinks as you do. You are obsessed with hatred. You are yet another person who does not look at his own sinfulness, preferring to completely focus on supposedly externalized sources of sinfulness. While you have every right to be on this forum, you do not represent at least some of us here. You need to stop speaking as if you are Chaim Ben Pesach and as if you are the personification of the ideal Jtfer.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
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DBF has once again proven to be a villain. I offer an olive branch in exchange for an apology - which, by the way, was for him telling me to choke on my own vomit and die - and he refuses, and takes shots at me. DBF- why must you go against the wishes of our brave moderators and righteous leader, who have preached peace on this most patriotic of forums?
RWG
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DBF has once again proven to be a villain. I offer an olive branch in exchange for an apology - which, by the way, was for him telling me to choke on my own vomit and die - and he refuses, and takes shots at me. DBF- why must you go against the wishes of our brave moderators and righteous leader, who have preached peace on this most patriotic of forums?
RWG
You never even answered my 3 questions.
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If I receive an apology, I will consider answering your questions.
RWG
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If I receive an apology, I will consider answering your questions.
RWG
I have seen nothing to indicate that your apology was sincere. You are still talking down to people and boasting about what an amazing JTFer you are, as well as constantly throwing out your favorite word, "patriot" (which is a codeword for anti-Semite).
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If I receive an apology, I will consider answering your questions.
RWG
(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs45/f/2009/112/a/5/BAWWW_PLZ_by_Fox_boy456.jpg)
Did someone hurt your feelings?
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Just to be clear, DBF - are you saying I'm an anti-semite?
RWG
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I am personally dismayed at all the infighting going on here in the last couple of days, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM! And we should RESPECT each other!
We all want to see a prosperous, moral, conservative, traditional, America with her greatness restored, and a Prosperous, secure, traditional, Jewish Israel.
We are all friends here! Act like it!
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New Yorker - I couldn't agree more. The title of this thread says it all. Even though I preach peace, I have detractors who seek to tear me down! True right-wingers, however, don't stop in the face of adversity - they push forward! ZOT HI UVDA!
RWG
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Just to be clear, DBF - are you saying I'm an anti-semite?
I'm saying that I am not stupid and I know how "patriot" is used by the wrong people. Back in the '30s and '40s, members of the so-called "America Firsters" movement (what a laugh, they wanted America to be taken over by the Third Reich), they called themselves "patriots" in order to imply that Jews are not first and foremost loyal to America. This usage has continued up until this very day. If you don't believe me go to any loosely moderated political forum and look in any thread where Israel, AIPAC, Jonathan Pollard, or Netanyahu are described. A lot of these homos will just come right out and say "I don't support Israel because I'm a patriot".
So, can you please tell me why that is your very favorite word?
Edit: can you please tell me why you use Hebrew in every single post, knowing full well most of us cannot understand it? I don't see how you can; you are a Gentile and were certainly not raised with it.
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http://mw4.m-w.com/dictionary/patriot
RWG
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http://mw4.m-w.com/dictionary/patriot
RWG
I can read a damn dictionary. "Banker" means someone who works at a bank too technically but that's not how people use it.
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I am a patriot in the truest definition of the word. In case you missed it the first time, here is the link to the proper definition of patriot, WHICH, by the way, describes me: http://mw4.m-w.com/dictionary/patriot
RWG
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I am a patriot in the truest definition of the word. In case you missed it the first time, here is the link to the proper definition of patriot, WHICH, by the way, describes me: http://mw4.m-w.com/dictionary/patriot
RWG
Tell me why you need to put that word in every single post.
If you are a real patriot, people will know it by your actions, not because you are always throwing it around and boasting about yourself.
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Perhaps I am wrong, but I have never seen or heard Chaim say all black should be "expelled" back to Africa. I have heard him say that blacks should be offered compensation if they are willing to migrate their on their own accord. Chaim is also pretty clear that blacks are no inferior because of their skin, or DNA, but by the choices they make with their God given free will; also that their stereotypical culture is evil [which it is]. I have also heard Chaim say that it is against Torah to hate someone simply because of their skin color.
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This is tough and heavy talk from a guy who sent me an outrageously childish message, telling me to "choke on my own vomit and die".
I will respect the wishes of our moderators and the brave Chaim Ben Pesach and relent for the time being, in hopes that the insidious DBF can find peace in his heart and offer an apology where one is due.
RWG
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Perhaps I am wrong, but I have never seen or heard Chaim say all black should be "expelled" back to Africa. I have heard him say that blacks should be offered compensation if they are willing to migrate their on their own accord. Chaim is also pretty clear that blacks are no inferior because of their skin, or DNA, but by the choices they make with their G-d given free will; also that their stereotypical culture is evil [which it is]. I have also heard Chaim say that it is against Torah to hate someone simply because of their skin color.
Yes, and I don't know how many times we have been over this.
RWG has heard this repeatedly and yet he persists in his "all black people are the enemy" routine. He said that if a skinhead was beating up a righteous black person that he'd support the skinhead:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,46114.msg441052.html#msg441052
Has he apologized for saying that?
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Are you blind? Can you not read? Where does it say on that thread that I'd support the skinhead? I would let the two enemies to America and Israel harm each other, and that's what I originally wrote, BOGED!
RWG
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Are you blind? Can you not read? Where does it say on that thread that I'd support the skinhead? I would let the two enemies to America and Israel harm each other, and that's what I originally wrote, BOGED!
RWG
By saying you would not help the pro-Israel, right-wing black who is being attacked by a Nazi skinhead, you are voicing support for the skinhead.
Now let's talk about that apology you are demanding from me. Before I go out issuing apologies, I want you to honestly explain what it is that bothered you so very much. By your own account it was a childish message. Most regular people, if nothing in that message was true, would laugh it off and ignore it. Why did you (and your friends Skkie and Ben) take it so very personally?
I have to wonder whether it was my words, and that ridiculous curse that you keep repeating, that really are what bothered you and the other two from that message. Ben was honest and came right out and said that the pictures were gross. Hmmm. What should I make of that? Is it the pictures that in fact bothered you as well?
I wonder how many normal, healthy red-blooded American men would be bothered by those very pictures.
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I have to say that I regret locking this thread also... I have locked three threads like this in the last week...
Let us just let our issues go for the time being. Time will prove who is honest and who is the deceiver. I think I know a couple of the deceivers, but I will hold my tongue for now.
Please understand that spending so much JTF forum space on personal issues is not productive. Especially in the public where people can form a negative opinion of our great members. Overall I agree that most of the members here are here for good intentions. There may be some who are here to cause trouble also, but let us not worry about them.
Please understand that I am just doing this {locking the thread} because this has dragged on too long. I think your 'olive branch' should be accepted in good faith, and we should grant the benefit of the doubt to RWG.
PS: Please, if you must, send civilized private messages. If you cannot do that, then please just ignore each other for the time being.