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Did Chaim not tell you people that we don't want this anymore? Did he not tell these people that you've had enough with the polls and the defamation? I am sure he did. Yet, you all dis-obeyed Chaims wishes.
A WHITE NATIONALIST is as Rubystars is. WN's are NOT Neo-Nazis, they are not even "White Supremists" Yet, he/she gets BANNED for nothing. JewishAmericanPatriot is ALSO a WN.
Are you all happy with this dull forum that has NO debate, just defaming and debasing? Now Right Wing Gentile you have all defamed as well, and now where is HE? He said he loves Chaim, and David, yet you all treat him like TRASH. Ben too, even though he is a Jew.
This is how you are going to treat new-comers? LOUSY. Just plain NASTY.
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Are you standing up for Skkie?
That I think is the problem here...
I didn't ban him, but I don't think much of him... Some of these so-called WN are just shy of going full-blown nazi.. I am surprised that you AsheDinah don't understand that we can't trust them...
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This is for Chaim. WHO banned Skkie? I looked at Skkies profile and nothing there that is worthy to be banned. What the hell is the matter with people? Too afraid to debate, so ban the person?
Sorry, this is AMERICAN JTF and English speaking JTF- you know FREE SPEECH. Did this person put up horrible pictures? NO, Did this person go on and on about how Jews should be killed? NO.
Chaim, I see no reason for the BAN, and Soon, probably RightWingGentiles ban for NOTHING.
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Skkie sympathizes with Nazi Germany as you can see from his posts about Dresden. Ben and JewishAmericanPatriot support Neo-Nazis. Rubystars is a good person and is definitely not a Nazi, but I've never heard her claim to be a "white nationalist." WNs are Nazis, and we should not have to be nice to them on the forum.
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
WHO BANNED this person, THIS POST IS FOR CHAIM, NOT WEAK PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID TO DEBATE.
Jewish American Patriot is MY DEAR FRIEND, how DARE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ARMEN is a WHITE NATIONALIST movement and has MANY JEWS. They are NOT NEO NAZIS, and you are WEAK, weak, WEAK people, I am totally EMBARRASSED.
You cannot even debate on a FORUM. How WEAK and EMBARASSING!
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Here's a picture of Jared Taylor standing next to the Holocaust denier Paul Fromm. Not only is he in the same group, but he's standing next to Fromm.
(http://www.amren.com/ar/2005/04/GROUPsml.JPG)
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I WANT TO KNOW WHY SKKIE GOT BANNED. WHO DID IT. The rest of this BS is IRRELEVANT.
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http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/ (http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/)
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THIS POST IS FOR CHAIM. After David says something it will be LOCKED.
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http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/ (http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/)
Moshe, THAT is NOT an answer for SKKIE.
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I believe that it would be a good thing for whites to reclaim their own nations from third world invaders. They need to take back Europe and America and make sure that they are in control of Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, and any other place where whites should rightfully be in charge. I don't believe in miscegenation between whites and nonwhites and I believe in preserving white people. Call that what you want.
I don't believe in anti-Semitism so I have almost nothing in common with most who call themselves WN. If they didn't wear that label I might, but as long as they use that term it prevents me from doing it because I don't want to get confused with anti-Semites.
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AsheDina,
My only other question is why are you airing this in the public forum and not in the Honorable Winged Member forum where I think it is more appropriate. It would seem these kinds of discussions are divisive in themselves..
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http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/ (http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/)
Moshe, THAT is NOT an answer for SKKIE.
I was responding to your claim that Amren is not Neo-Nazi.
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http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/ (http://www.realcourage.org/2010/02/jared-taylor-on-StørmFrønt-radio/)
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AsheDina, I believe Skkie was banned because he expressed sympathy for the so-called German civilians of Nazi Germany. I didn't ban him. But looking at his posts, that's my guess.
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Did Chaim not tell you people that we don't want this anymore? Did he not tell these people that you've had enough with the polls and the defamation? I am sure he did. Yet, you all dis-obeyed Chaims wishes.
One or two people made polls. Don't jump on the whole forum for that.
A WHITE NATIONALIST is as Rubystars is. WN's are NOT Neo-Nazis, they are not even "White Supremists" Yet, he/she gets BANNED for nothing. JewishAmericanPatriot is ALSO a WN.
Chaim does not agree with you. Chaim has called "white nationalists" neo-nazis on Ask JTF. You certainly have a right to disagree with Chaim however you want, but don't profess to speak in his name when that is not his view.
Are you all happy with this dull forum that has NO debate, just defaming and debasing? Now Right Wing Gentile you have all defamed as well, and now where is HE? He said he loves Chaim, and David, yet you all treat him like TRASH. Ben too, even though he is a Jew.
I don't think it's fair that you lump everyone as one person as if we all had the same reaction. That's not true.
This is how you are going to treat new-comers? LOUSY. Just plain NASTY.
Ben did not do himself any favors here. He brought those comments on himself when he said we have to be nice to neo-nazis. He said, even if skie is a neo-nazi we have to be nice and tolerate them. When a person says something like this, they have unfortunately lost the presumption of innocence and good-natured politeness that comes along with greeting a new member, and they will have to earn back respect the hard way (if they ever earn it back having said such stupidity). I am not saying I treat ben like some people here do, however I can see why other people do it.
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ARMEN is a WHITE NATIONALIST movement and has MANY JEWS. They are NOT NEO NAZIS, and you are WEAK, weak, WEAK people, I am totally EMBARRASSED.
You cannot even debate on a FORUM. How WEAK and EMBARASSING!
Interesting. Is Chaim also weak because he called white nationalists nazis?
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I showed my debate with him to Chaim and Chaim banned you. Why do you want to debate an out-right Nazi?
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It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.
I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.
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It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.
I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.
What do you consider an anti-semitic slur? Even our own good members use the K-word... Why shouldn't an antisemite also use the word?
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
WHO BANNED this person, THIS POST IS FOR CHAIM, NOT WEAK PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID TO DEBATE.
Jewish American Patriot is MY DEAR FRIEND, how DARE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am 100% Jewish, and I consider myself pro-White. I think Chaim considers himself pro-White, too; after all, most Jews ARE White, regardless of what neonazis say. I for one don't give two damns what they think; if the White race goes down, so do we because to the non-White world, we LOOK White (and we are.)
I think ppl are confused as to what a "White nationalist" is.
White separatist: someone who believes they should be allowed to live separately from non-Whites. These are usually the most liberal of those on the pro-White side.
White supremacist: a White person who believes the White race is superior to all other races. All White supremacists are White separatists, but not all White separatists are White supremacists.
White nationalist: someone who believes White European people have the right to self-determination. You don't have to be White to be a supporter of WN, incidentally; I have met blacks who support the basic principle of White nationalism, just as they believe in black nationalism for themselves.
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Skkie sympathizes with Nazi Germany as you can see from his posts about Dresden. Ben and JewishAmericanPatriot support Neo-Nazis. Rubystars is a good person and is definitely not a Nazi, but I've never heard her claim to be a "white nationalist." WNs are Nazis, and we should not have to be nice to them on the forum.
EXCUSE ME? I do NOT "support neonazis", what the hell is wrong with some of the people on this forum? For your information I was studying under Rabbi Meir Kahane, HY"D in the 1970s probably before some of you were even BORN!
Are liberals being allowed to run things here now? This used to be a place where as a right-wing Jew I felt free to "let my hair down" as far as how I feel regarding shvartsas, etc. Not so anymore!
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Skkie sympathizes with Nazi Germany as you can see from his posts about Dresden. Ben and JewishAmericanPatriot support Neo-Nazis. Rubystars is a good person and is definitely not a Nazi, but I've never heard her claim to be a "white nationalist." WNs are Nazis, and we should not have to be nice to them on the forum.
EXCUSE ME? I do NOT "support neonazis", what the hell is wrong with some of the people on this forum? For your information I was studying under Rabbi Meir Kahane, HY"D in the 1970s probably before some of you were even BORN!
Are liberals being allowed to run things here now? This used to be a place where as a right-wing Jew I felt free to "let my hair down" as far as how I feel regarding shvartsas, etc. Not so anymore!
You support the Council of Conservative Citizens.
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Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.
Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.
I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.
I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...
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Skkie sympathizes with Nazi Germany as you can see from his posts about Dresden. Ben and JewishAmericanPatriot support Neo-Nazis. Rubystars is a good person and is definitely not a Nazi, but I've never heard her claim to be a "white nationalist." WNs are Nazis, and we should not have to be nice to them on the forum.
EXCUSE ME? I do NOT "support neonazis", what the hell is wrong with some of the people on this forum? For your information I was studying under Rabbi Meir Kahane, HY"D in the 1970s probably before some of you were even BORN!
Are liberals being allowed to run things here now? This used to be a place where as a right-wing Jew I felt free to "let my hair down" as far as how I feel regarding shvartsas, etc. Not so anymore!
You support the Council of Conservative Citizens.
I agree with SOME of their views regarding blacks and whites, but then you could say that about a lot of groups!
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Paulette is right. You all look like weak people. I am 100% pro-white. I guess that makes me a Nazi as well?? Paulette never put Chaim down, this has to do with banning people for no reason.
Ron, you are a young man---learn your place. Paulette and I talked on the telephone with Chaim, he wants no bans anymore. If you cannot debate these people, then move on to a forum where they can make fun of your weakness, because you are making people that want to debate these people look weak.
David Ben Moshe
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Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?
Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...
What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?
I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?
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Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.
Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.
I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.
I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...
I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.
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Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?
Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...
What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?
I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?
According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)
White people would be the first category.
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Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.
Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.
I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.
I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...
I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.
And your point is? Are you saying that because I dont support white nationals I am a leftist... If you are saying that please do so directly so that I don't mistake what you are saying.
I am a proud Jew who doesn't trust white nationalists. If you don't like that, tough for you JAP..
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Paulette is right. You all look like weak people. I am 100% pro-white. I guess that makes me a Nazi as well?? Paulette never put Chaim down, this has to do with banning people for no reason.
Ron, you are a young man---learn your place. Paulette and I talked on the telephone with Chaim, he wants no bans anymore. If you cannot debate these people, then move on to a forum where they can make fun of your weakness, because you are making people that want to debate these people look weak.
David Ben Moshe
Why do we need to debate those who justify and defend Nazi Germany again?
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Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?
Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...
What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?
I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?
According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)
White people would be the first category.
So by your definition the arabs are white too... Am I correct?
By Jewish belief there is one branch of man, all descended from Noach... Some, such as Cham and Cush are darker skinned... Some such as Essau are lighter skinned. Abrahams arab son Ishmael is, according to Torah, a close relative of Yitzak, the son of Hagar, his egyptian maid...
Both Essau {the roman white race} and Ishmael {the arab race} are believed to fight against Israel and Israel will defeat it...
Maybe that is what you should study instead of neo-nazi literature and such...
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Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.
Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.
I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.
I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...
I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.
And your point is? Are you saying that because I dont support white nationals I am a leftist... If you are saying that please do so directly so that I don't mistake what you are saying.
I am a proud Jew who doesn't trust white nationalists. If you don't like that, tough for you JAP..
I'm not saying anything other than the fact that I have heard that basic same statement from leftist Jews.
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Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?
Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...
What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?
I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?
According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)
White people would be the first category.
So by your definition the arabs are white too... Am I correct?
Arabs, like Jews, are Shemites, descended from Shem. I don't know what they are other than that, they are a sub-race of one of the main three.
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It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.
I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.
What do you consider an anti-semitic slur? Even our own good members use the K-word... Why shouldn't an antisemite also use the word?
There's the difference when a Jew calls a self-hating Jew a kike because they're doing out of love for their people. Obviously when a nazi or muslim uses it they're doing it out of hatred for Jews as a whole.
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Americankahanist, Ron Ben Michael does not have the power to ban anyone. All Ron is saying is that he showed Chaim the thread where Skkie defended the so-called German civilians during World War II. It looks like Chaim then banned him. Therefore you may want to just send Chaim a private message, rather than calling everyone here "weak."
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It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.
I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.
What do you consider an anti-semitic slur? Even our own good members use the K-word... Why shouldn't an antisemite also use the word?
There's the difference when a Jew calls a self-hating Jew a kike because they're doing out of love for their people. Obviously when a nazi or muslim uses it they're doing it out of hatred for Jews as a whole.
Perfectly and accurately said!