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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: The One and Only Mo on June 06, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
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I met some guy at a siyum and we got into talking politics, and he said the right-wing Kahane movements in the states were listed as terrorist organizations. Is that true? :o
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JTF is a law abiding organization.
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Recently, a relative of mine was saying that I shouldn't have any connections with Kahanists because it's an "illegal movement." I know JTF is law-abiding, but it's hard to come up with a response to that.
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Chaim and JTF members have been very careful not to advocate anything illegal because there's no point in doing things illegally when at this time in history it's more effective to do things legally.
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While JTF certainly isn't a terrorist organization and it isn't listed as a terrorist organization, it's very disturbing that any true Kahanist organization is classified as a terrorist entity. This is even more pronounced being that FATAH isn't currently listed as a Terrorist organization by any government!
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It doesn't matter to me how it's listed. Jews need it!!
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Kahanism is the [only] solution to terrorism.
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I met some guy at a siyum and we got into talking politics, and he said the right-wing Kahane movements in the states were listed as terrorist organizations. Is that true? :o
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No, it is absolutely not true. JTF has no connection to Kach or Kahane Chai, the only two groups that were listed as "terrorist" organizations.
JTF is completely law-abiding.
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The following is a list of the U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Most of them are Muslim organizations. And this is despite living in an era of political correctness. One can easily imagine a multitude of additional Muslim organizations on the list if common sense and decency were the norm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._State_Department_list_of_Foreign_Terrorist_Organizations
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Recently, a relative of mine was saying that I shouldn't have any connections with Kahanists because it's an "illegal movement." I know JTF is law-abiding, but it's hard to come up with a response to that.
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Why is it hard to come up with a response to someone who is spreading absurd and cowardly lies?
If JTF were "illegal", would we be able to raise money, open bank accounts, operate two web sites and two forums, upload thousands of videos on hundreds of youtube and flix accounts, and broadcast television programs for so many years?
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Recently, a relative of mine was saying that I shouldn't have any connections with Kahanists because it's an "illegal movement." I know JTF is law-abiding, but it's hard to come up with a response to that.
What's "illegal" about it?
They don't outlaw "movements" or "philosophies." They outlawed/terror-listed specific organizations based on the activities of those organizations (not that I agree with their categorization of the activities of these groups, but I digress). As such, the organization JDL is on the US list (I think - or at least it was at some point), as is Kahane Chai. Neither of these organizations are JTF nor affiliated with JTF. JTF is its own organization that is completely legal and just so happens to be based on similar philosophies. As far as I can see, there is nothing illegal about JTF or hayamin haamiti.
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Here is another list, where you can see which organisation is considered terrorist group in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_organizations
It is shocking that the UN do NOT consider Hamas and Hizbollah as terrorist organisations!!!! :o
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Are Kahane Chai and Kach still active?
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Why did Kahane Chai get declared terrorist?
I forget now, but probably after the acts of Baruch Goldstein in Hevron. And whichever motive is given "officially" by the US, I'm sure the US put those groups on their list as a favor to the Israeli regime or at least in consultation with them. I have no doubt that the Israeli regime would request that.
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ofr course jtf is legal.what do you think we are some weirdos with guns that the only things in ther brains is guns and how to kill muslims? as chaim said'if we are terrorists why would the banks let chaim to open bank accounts for the movement?