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Title: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Dr. Dan on May 16, 2007, 11:12:19 AM
Ok it's cheesy, but yes..he's the best!!! I love listening to him speak posthumously...He is a hero of today's and yesterday's and the future Jews and righteous people.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Dr. Dan on May 16, 2007, 11:17:09 AM
Everyone will pick choice #5.


ok let's say if one person says something else... ::)

Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Allen-T on May 16, 2007, 11:59:23 AM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view God stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. Warrior should have been on the list too. I love the recent video posted on YT where mid speech he walks over to a violent heckler and starts throwing punches!
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 12:15:40 PM
Yes warrior should be added
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Ehud on May 16, 2007, 12:21:31 PM
You made this poll too easy!  Everyone's going to vote for choice #5 because he was all of the above.  He was truly like a prophet who preached G-d's word and awakened so many clueless Jews to their true faith.  He was a hero who put the interests of other Jews before his and inculcated this Jewish value in many, the true spirit of Ahavat Yisroel!  He was a visionary who awakened Jews to the beliefs and desires of arab muslim nazis and the need to eject arabs from the land of Israel, decades before the threat manifested itself clearly to only some. (still!!)  I have so many good thoughts of him that I cannot even begin to describe them in words because they would not do him justice.  He is definitely one of the finest Jews the world has ever known, and is an example for all to follow.       
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: judeanoncapta on May 16, 2007, 12:38:24 PM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view G-d stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. 

That's judaism's view as well.

But as they say "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Rabbi Kahane was not a prophet.

But in a time where noone has common sense, a man with common sense looks like a prophet.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2007, 12:54:43 PM
Judeanoncapta i agree with your remark that in todays world he would have been to the liking of the prophet but i think its wrong to say he was almost one.
I wish he were alive today.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Allen-T on May 16, 2007, 12:55:50 PM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view G-d stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. 

That's judaism's view as well.

But as they say "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Rabbi Kahane was not a prophet.

But in a time where noone has common sense, a man with common sense looks like a prophet.

Very well put. In Christian circles some of the nuttiest people with no common sense whatsoever are hailed as prophets. Be grateful those perceived by some as prophets in Judaism at least have something worthwhile to say regardless!! The world a false christian prophets is a creepy place.  :-[
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2007, 12:57:23 PM
A man once came on stage at an event i went to and said he was the messiah, he was serious.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Allen-T on May 16, 2007, 01:01:02 PM
A man once came on stage at an event i went to and said he was the messiah, he was serious.

a "christian" event?
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Dr. Dan on May 16, 2007, 03:05:40 PM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view G-d stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. 

That's judaism's view as well.

But as they say "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Rabbi Kahane was not a prophet.

But in a time where noone has common sense, a man with common sense looks like a prophet.

I said he "almost was one" if not one...

When i say almost it means that he probably wasn't..but some might think he was... I think he was almost like one.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Allen-T on May 16, 2007, 03:21:42 PM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view G-d stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. 

That's judaism's view as well.

But as they say "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Rabbi Kahane was not a prophet.

But in a time where noone has common sense, a man with common sense looks like a prophet.

I said he "almost was one" if not one...

When i say almost it means that he probably wasn't..but some might think he was... I think he was almost like one.

Danny, a prophet is someone God uses specifically to speak things that carry the same weight as scripture. The reason the Bible can be trusted as infallible is because it's a prophetically complete. If prophets were functioning today it would automatically render the scripture unstable. So he cannot be a prophet. That said, truth is still being revealed from the pages of scripture and new awarenesses of what is there is something different. For example the prophet Daniel's prophecies were "sealed" until the time of the end. This is because world events needed to be in place before the prophecies could be understood. Those interpreting Daniel today are not prophets, but certain prophetic truths are just recently being understood.   
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 16, 2007, 04:17:34 PM
For the reasons Allen-T listed, HaRav Kahane couldn't technically have been a prophet, for all of the canon of Scripture is done being written (whether you mean Christian or Jewish scripture). But he was definitely a social prophet, and his teachings were certainly consistent with Tanach commandments on how to deal with enemy nations that sought to exterminate the Israelites.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: judeanoncapta on May 16, 2007, 04:21:54 PM
Remember by the standards they judged Rabbi Kahane, Moses, Joshua, David, Samuel, and pretty much all of the prophets were racists and fascists.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 16, 2007, 04:23:02 PM
Great point.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: ftf on May 16, 2007, 06:08:32 PM
A man once came on stage at an event i went to and said he was the messiah, he was serious.

a "christian" event?
Proabably a muslims event, Islamic leaders claim to be the messiah or mahdi as they call him every few years, a few months back there was one in iraq, he lead a group that murdered a few thousand other muslims before he was gunned down.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 16, 2007, 06:12:12 PM
a few months back there was one in iraq, he lead a group that murdered a few thousand other muslims before he was gunned down.
We need more Muslims like that. Actually, there's no shortage of Muslims like that. Take away the uniting issue of Israel and the west and most ragtops resort to butchering each other in Baalist orgies in no time flat.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Dr. Dan on May 16, 2007, 10:39:46 PM
1,3,4. Biblically speaking it's my view G-d stopped working through prophets before the Rabbi was born. 

That's judaism's view as well.

But as they say "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Rabbi Kahane was not a prophet.

But in a time where noone has common sense, a man with common sense looks like a prophet.

I said he "almost was one" if not one...

When i say almost it means that he probably wasn't..but some might think he was... I think he was almost like one.

Danny, a prophet is someone G-d uses specifically to speak things that carry the same weight as scripture. The reason the Bible can be trusted as infallible is because it's a prophetically complete. If prophets were functioning today it would automatically render the scripture unstable. So he cannot be a prophet. That said, truth is still being revealed from the pages of scripture and new awarenesses of what is there is something different. For example the prophet Daniel's prophecies were "sealed" until the time of the end. This is because world events needed to be in place before the prophecies could be understood. Those interpreting Daniel today are not prophets, but certain prophetic truths are just recently being understood.   


valid point..I'll take it!
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Sarah on May 19, 2007, 11:45:59 AM
A man once came on stage at an event i went to and said he was the messiah, he was serious.

a "christian" event?
Proabably a muslims event, Islamic leaders claim to be the messiah or mahdi as they call him every few years, a few months back there was one in iraq, he lead a group that murdered a few thousand other muslims before he was gunned down.

Actually it was just a local event, with mixtures of religions.....but the guy was a shvartza, with an awfully long beard.
Title: Re: A poll on this forum's thoughts of Meir Kahane
Post by: Daniel on May 19, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
I wish he were still alive today. I sometimes wonder if he could have been a strong enough voice to convince the FBI and CIA that there was a terrorist conpiracy of Islamic terrorism taking place here which might have prevented 9/11. It would have also been great if could have had an "Ask Rabbi Kahane" forum!