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Title: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on June 22, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
בס''ד

www.jtf.org/c.mp3

http://www.4shared.com/audio/BozKHPKt/_58__.html
 
The program is 2 hours and 7 minutes this week.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: TruthSpreader on June 22, 2010, 07:31:45 PM
Thank you, Chaim. Well worth the wait.

Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Trace on June 22, 2010, 08:20:54 PM
It's Longevity, Chaim! Longevity!
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on June 22, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
It's Longevity, Chaim! Longevity!

בס''ד

Thanks, yes I know. Later in the program, I remembered how to say the word. For some reason, I just had this mental block in the middle of the broadcast.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 22, 2010, 11:40:08 PM
Sweet!  D/L'ing right now! :dance:
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 23, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
Loved the program and especially the response to ben.  Hilarious.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
i loved how you reponded to c4j.this is completely disproves a theory i had that i glad that itwas disproved.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 01:55:39 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 01:58:06 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.
coocking and cleaning is something that everyone should know.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 23, 2010, 02:02:53 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.
coocking and cleaning is something that everyone should know.

Only wives
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 02:05:08 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.
coocking and cleaning is something that everyone should know.

Only wives
no.even singles and married man.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 23, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.
coocking and cleaning is something that everyone should know.

Only wives
no.even singles and married man.

Why would I need to learn how to cook and clean if my wife knows how to do that
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 02:49:07 PM
What would happen if (I hope this never happens, but it could) your wife was very sick with the flu or something and could not do any cooking or cleaning for a few days or longer? Don't you think it might be a good idea to be able to cook some nutritious meals for your kids or maybe clean up a mess if they puke on the floor? In the case of the flu more than one family member could get it and you might have to help.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
(I hope this never happens, but it could)
it is not if it is when.everybody get a flu in some point of their lives.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 02:52:03 PM
(I hope this never happens, but it could)
it is not if it is when.everybody get a flu in some point of their lives.

My family all got the flu in 1999 and the only one who didn't get it was my little sister. I don't know how she avoided it, we were all too sick to do much of anything but thankfully she was old enough to feed herself if not we might have had to get some help.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 23, 2010, 02:53:15 PM
What would happen if (I hope this never happens, but it could) your wife was very sick with the flu or something and could not do any cooking or cleaning for a few days or longer? Don't you think it might be a good idea to be able to cook some nutritious meals for your kids or maybe clean up a mess if they puke on the floor? In the case of the flu more than one family member could get it and you might have to help.

Only reason I learnt how to cook is because women find it sexy
but about your question a man could just go to a restaurant
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 23, 2010, 02:54:17 PM
Plus women love a man that can cook.   Although I'm not sure how true that is regarding religious Jewish women.  They take a lot of pride in their own cooking.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 23, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
What would happen if (I hope this never happens, but it could) your wife was very sick with the flu or something and could not do any cooking or cleaning for a few days or longer? Don't you think it might be a good idea to be able to cook some nutritious meals for your kids or maybe clean up a mess if they puke on the floor? In the case of the flu more than one family member could get it and you might have to help.

Only reason I learnt how to cook is because women find it sexy
but about your question a man could just go to a restaurant

lol  ;D
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 02:56:03 PM
(I hope this never happens, but it could)
it is not if it is when.everybody get a flu in some point of their lives.

My family all got the flu in 1999 and the only one who didn't get it was my little sister. I don't know how she avoided it, we were all too sick to do much of anything but thankfully she was old enough to feed herself if not we might have had to get some help.
probably she had a better immune system than most of oyou.it was my case until the new need to travel 20km by bus every day in 06:00 am ruined my immune system.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 02:56:31 PM
I don't have anything against traditional lifestyles but the problem is sometimes there are extenuating circumstances where the lines might not be able to be rigid on things like this. Sometimes women have to do things that are traditional male domains and sometimes men have to do things that are traditional female domains, and I don't think it should hurt anyone's ego.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 02:59:03 PM
I don't have anything against traditional lifestyles but the problem is sometimes there are extenuating circumstances where the lines might not be able to be rigid on things like this. Sometimes women have to do things that are traditional male domains and sometimes men have to do things that are traditional female domains, and I don't think it should hurt anyone's ego.
it swhould not hurt anyone ego.i am very proud at my extremely limted knowledge in coocking (okay not coocking,just how to make sandwiches but i want to learn coocking in the summer holiday).i think that it was proved that females are equal to males in the mental skills if not even more talented.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 23, 2010, 03:01:03 PM
I don't have anything against traditional lifestyles but the problem is sometimes there are extenuating circumstances where the lines might not be able to be rigid on things like this. Sometimes women have to do things that are traditional male domains and sometimes men have to do things that are traditional female domains, and I don't think it should hurt anyone's ego.

I'm not suggesting they would try to disallow the man from cooking, I just meant that as far as these women seeing that quality in a man as being especially attractive, I don't know if that is there.   Believe me, there are plenty of religious Jewish households who share responsibility in these areas.  Often times the man actually cooks the chulent for Shabbat and considers it his domain to do so.   I am friends with one family where the husband actually bakes the challah.   People seem to do things however they come naturally it seems.  
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 03:05:35 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 03:09:16 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
not nly jewish women.almost every woman on earth is proud about her cooking (as almost every male on earth who knows how to cook).
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 03:15:25 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
not nly jewish women.almost every woman on earth is proud about her cooking (as almost every male on earth who knows how to cook).

Cooking is fun but eating is better.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
not nly jewish women.almost every woman on earth is proud about her cooking (as almost every male on earth who knows how to cook).

Cooking is fun but eating is better.

You agree with me once again  :o
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Ben m on June 23, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
not nly jewish women.almost every woman on earth is proud about her cooking (as almost every male on earth who knows how to cook).

Cooking is fun but eating is better.
nobody denied that.i love ethnical cuisines,especialy the japanese and italian cuisines.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 03:30:00 PM
You agree with me once again  :o

It's just astonishing, this is almost getting to be like the twilight zone!
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Secularbeliever on June 23, 2010, 03:57:17 PM
Cooking and cleaning is not demeaning at all. That's productive and needed work. How is serving other people demeaning? Isn't that what people are supposed to do, is do things that make the world better for others? How anyone could compare that to prostitution is just unbelievable to me. I really liked your answer to that Chaim.

In a perfect world no women would want to be prostitutes and no men would frequent them.  However, I don't think it is the role of government to force those choices on adults.  With legal prostitution you do not get increases in crime.  Look at the houses in Nevada, there is no spike in crime around them.  There are also not pimps there.  I am not saying it is a clean business because any business built around vice is dirty.  However, I just think adults should make those decisions for themselves.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Rubystars on June 23, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
SB, one of the things that you have to consider is that if something immoral is made legal by the government, then it implies that the goverment agrees with or condones the behavior. I wonder what kind of spiritual consequences this brings upon a nation. The same problem is there with something like gay marriage.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Secularbeliever on June 23, 2010, 05:03:33 PM
Rubystars, I disagree with you on that.  The USA is built upon a system of limited government.  For the government to be coercing people to behave a certain way requires a compelling interest in the matter by society.  In my opinion that should be restricted to cases of one person injuring another.  Two people engaged in consensual activity should not be the business of government.  Government needs a compelling reason to prohibit activity not a reason to refrain from coercive activity.

Gay marriage is different because it does require government sanction of the union.  I have no objection if two men want to swear their love and fidelity to each other if they do their disgusting (in my opinion) acts in private.  I don't want to hire police to hunt for homosexuals fornicating in private.  I think marriage officially should be limited to a man and a woman but that is not to say I want to persecute homosexuals.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 23, 2010, 06:33:08 PM
I think it's good that the Jewish women take pride in their cooking. Thanks for the information KWRBT. :)
not nly jewish women.almost every woman on earth is proud about her cooking (as almost every male on earth who knows how to cook).

Cooking is fun but eating is better.

You agree with me once again  :o

Isn't that nice.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on June 24, 2010, 02:47:48 PM
Omnia Vanitas - Everything is Vanity.

Wanting to look/be sexy is vanity.

'Sexyness' is not a valid reason to marry someone.
Once you have a woman, there is no need to be sexy because you need a moral sexlife.

Also, people with a fulfilled sexlife do not have a need to discuss it.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 24, 2010, 04:08:24 PM

Once you have a woman, there is no need to be sexy because you need a moral sexlife.


I don't agree with this part of your statement.  It is still important to be sexy for one person - the spouse.   Why does she (he if the person is female) not deserve that?   I should become a slob after I'm married?   My wife can feel free to become rikki lake after we're married?   Having a "moral" sexlife with the spouse includes having an enjoyable one.   If your spouse finds you sexy (and vice versa) that is good for the goal of the moral sexlife.
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 24, 2010, 04:31:47 PM

Once you have a woman, there is no need to be sexy because you need a moral sexlife.


I don't agree with this part of your statement.  It is still important to be sexy for one person - the spouse.   Why does she (he if the person is female) not deserve that?   I should become a slob after I'm married?   My wife can feel free to become rikki lake after we're married?   Having a "moral" sexlife with the spouse includes having an enjoyable one.   If your spouse finds you sexy (and vice versa) that is good for the goal of the moral sexlife.

I agree. Just like you want your wife to dress beautifully, act sexy and feminine, she wants you to do the same (something that attracts and pleases her sexually).

Part of moral life between a husband and a wife is also to make love as a part of Oneg Shabbat, so...
Title: Re: Ask JTF is ready, baruch Hashem (06/22)
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on June 24, 2010, 04:40:32 PM
You either are sexy or you are not. Acting is going against your own nature.

What I meant is there is no overexerted need to conquer a woman, so there is no need to overemphasize being sexy.

A moral life will exclude becoming a slob and will make you 'sexy', without acting sexy.
Acting sexy will only derive attention from what is necessary to be done.

In a healthy marriage, both are 'effortlessly sexy', which is the only healthy way.