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Feminem Supports Gay Marriage
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/17/eminem-has-change-of-heart-supports-gay-marriage/
Like this really was surprising... The world's most public faggot supports faggot "marriage"... no sh**. But what's up with this "change of heart" crap? He himself never said he had a "change of heart". The Bolshevik wigger multinational media said that because they are still trying to promote the lie that he is (or was) this hardcore, tough thug. Faginem has always been a fujjpacker, is a fujjpacker, and always will be one.
So, when are Feminem and his longtime life partner, Dr. Gay (yimach schmam) tying the knot?
Dr. Brennan Fan
Feminem Has Change of Heart, Supports Gay Marriage
11 days ago
MARA GAY
A decade ago, Feminem was blasted by gay rights groups for using homophobic lyrics in his songs.
But at 37, the rapper, real name Marshall Fagthers, says his "new, tolerant" self supports gay marriage.
"I think if two people love each other, then what the hell?" he said in a recent interview with The New York Times. But that's not to say that the The Real Slim Lady has gone soft.
"I think that everyone should have the chance to be equally miserable, if they want," he said.
The comments come at a particularly fitting time, as California wraps up its contentious Proposition 8 trial, which will decide the fate of the state's gay marriage ban. Meanwhile, Feminem's new album, "Recovery," hits stores next week.
Celebrity blogger Perez Hilton, who is openly gay, was shocked at the rapper's turnaround.
"Now, if the last person you would ever think in the world is for gay marriage, we can't possibly see what is holding up the rest of the country!" he wrote today.
Feminem says his new album, "Recovery," doesn't have the kind of language about women that got him in trouble earlier in his career either. "My overall look on things is a lot more mature than it used to be," he said.
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We got it Eminem is a fruit
(http://shanespencer.co.uk/B3TA/feminem.jpg)
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You really hate MEMEMNEM don't you? It seems like a day can't pass without reading the latest things going on in his life.
Obviously he's a prostitute... Do we need to be reminded that some people are such whores?
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You really hate MEMEMNEM don't you?
What was your first clue? BTW did you know that Eminem backwards is Meninme? Appropriate considering he is a faggot, isn't it?
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Fagthers
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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This guy and all those obsessed with him should be put on trains.
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Well you can see why we are being taken down, God has forbid gay lifestyles and gay marriage. To him it is an abomination.
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This guy and all those obsessed with him should be put on trains.
:::D :::D :::D
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Because a Torah Jew should oppose such immorality being sanctioned by our representative government. I dont support oppressing them and taunting them, but certainly we should stand against homosexual marriage.
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What's with the obsession?! I forgot about that freak 8 yrs ago.
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Because a Torah Jew should oppose such immorality being sanctioned by our representative government. I dont support oppressing them and taunting them, but certainly we should stand against homosexual marriage.
Yes, of course one might find religious arguments in favor of opposing gay marriage. My take on it, though, is that religious marriage is one issue, while secular marriage is a whole other issue where religious concerns have no bearing.
In my opinion the state has no right forcing religious communities to accept as legitimate or perform gay marriages, but I at the same time have the opinion that religious concerns which impede the individual liberties are in no way anything that the state should be take into account while legislating.
The state cannot effectively promote family values, and it is idiotic thinking that the state in some way can minimize the prevalence of a certain sexuality. The state cannot promote anything good in civil society, it can in such cases more often than not only oppress people who aren't necessarily a menace to anyone or anything.
Homosexuality is a fact of nature. Live with it.
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Because a Torah Jew should oppose such immorality being sanctioned by our representative government. I dont support oppressing them and taunting them, but certainly we should stand against homosexual marriage.
Yes, of course one might find religious arguments in favor of opposing gay marriage. My take on it, though, is that religious marriage is one issue, while secular marriage is a whole other issue where religious concerns have no bearing.
In my opinion the state has no right forcing religious communities to accept as legitimate or perform gay marriages, but I at the same time have the opinion that religious concerns which impede the individual liberties are in no way anything that the state should be take into account while legislating.
The state cannot effectively promote family values, and it is idiotic thinking that the state in some way can minimize the prevalence of a certain sexuality. The state cannot promote anything good in civil society, it can in such cases more often than not only oppress people who aren't necessarily a menace to anyone or anything.
Homosexuality is a fact of nature. Live with it.
I see gay marriage as a socio-economical issue. I don't think the state should give the same benefits it may give to normal couples like tax exempts. Same sex marriages don't make economic sense since they produce no children or very few and at very high cost (lab-assisted pregnancy is expensive and unhealthy).
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I don't get it, do we need a Faginem update every day?
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You really hate MEMEMNEM don't you?
What was your first clue? BTW did you know that Eminem backwards is Meninme? Appropriate considering he is a faggot, isn't it?
:::D thats funny
i agree feminem is a flamer!
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Because God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve!
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I see gay marriage as a socioeconomical issue. I don't think the state should give the same benefits it may give to normal couples like tax exempts. Same sex marriages don't make economic sense since they produce no children or very few and at very high cost (lab-assisted pregnancy is expensive and unhealthy).
It is very much an socioeconomical issue.
Up to 13-20 per cent of the population are non-heterosexual (be it actively homosexual or exhibiting homosexual tendencies), so it is very much a socioeconomical issue. Surveys and other investigations of the prevalence of homosexuality have shown quite varying results, everything from as little as two in a hundred individuals --or every 50th -- being homosexual to as many as every fifth. My feeling is that both extremes are inaccurate, but I do certainly also believe that a substantial part of the population actually exhibits some sort of homosexual tendency or outrightly practices homosexuality. I do not believe in a concept of complete homosexuality or complete heterosexuality, as there are rich examples of otherwise practicing heterosexuals engaging in acts of homosexuality and vice versa. Studies have shown that there might be a correlation between homosexuality and biological factors, as well as other studies have shown that the brain structure seen among homosexual males differed from the one seen among heterosexuals. I believe that individuals can have a tendency to exhibit homosexual behavior, the dominance of such tendency differing among individuals, with urges to participate in homosexual activities being occasional or practically nonexistent amongst some, while the urge is much stronger and even constant among others. Having both homosexual and heterosexual liaisons is a choice, and on that level a religious view on such things can spur behavior that is morally acceptable in that religion, but the attraction to other individuals, be it of the same or the opposite sex, cannot necessarily be seen as a choice.
So my basic premise is that homosexuality -- in one form or the other -- is prevalent, and that it is simply, as mentioned earlier, a fact of nature. Both liberals, conservatives and libertarians hail the liberal democracy. One of the premises for a liberal democracy is an equality of rights and liberties, unregarding gender, ethnicity and sexuality. Even though I am not in any way interested in homosexual relationships and I actually see a development in the direction of acceptance and normalisation of such relationships as harmful for traditional family values, which I see as beneficial -- the family values and not the development, mind you -- I find it difficult from a pro-democratic point of view to attempt forcing own values, ideology and religion upon others, as well as I cannot morally defend impeding or limiting the liberties of individuals -- those who do not seek to limit the liberties of others -- on an arbitrary basis. Furthermore, I see state discrimination with the purpose of promoting a certain religious or moral doctrine not as a conservative position, but as a fascist position. The conservative distrusts the state, and therefore I find it difficult making the encouragement of my values a state task, especially if it involves democratically problematic legislature and programmes.
This, of course, also extends to for instance taxation of homosexual couples in registered "marriages", "partnerships", "civil unions" -- call it what you like -- and the legal aspects of inheritance between partners in a homosexual relationship, etc. Talking about homosexual reproduction, I see it as difficult bringing on the argument of the fact that homosexuals generally do not reproduce as much as heterosexuals as an argument for the discrimination of homosexuals. To make tax exempts pro-family (or pro-reproduction, if you like), they may be altered to grow with the amount of children a family has, or something similar. Talking about artificial reproduction, it is actually not necessary for reproduction among homosexuals, as is evident by the tradition of formal, legal relationships and "natural" insemination among homosexuals of opposite genders. You cannot do anything about that on legal ground, sSo if one regards homosexual parenthood a problem, then the solution is most likely somewhat fascist.
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It (homosexual marriage) is most definitely a socio-economic issue.
The issue being that no society is capable of sustaining itself without the institution of marriage being defined as between one man and one woman, and sanctioned by the state.
Aside from heterosexual marriage, no other institution allows for the minimal birth rate required for any society to sustain itself by having a young vital work force which both reproduces as well as sustains its aging population.
Homosexuality is as old as time itself, and there has yet to be one society embracing homosexuality which was able to continue functioning.
Any other "discussion" is crap propaganda being offered by the homosexual front groups and their running dog lackeys in academia.
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It (homosexual marriage) is most definitely a socio-economic issue.
The issue being that no society is capable of sustaining itself without the institution of marriage being defined as between one man and one woman, and sanctioned by the state.
Aside from heterosexual marriage, no other institution allows for the minimal birth rate required for any society to sustain itself by having a young vital work force which both reproduces as well as sustains its aging population.
Homosexuality is as old as time itself, and there has yet to be one society embracing homosexuality which was able to continue functioning.
Any other "discussion" is crap propaganda being offered by the homosexual front groups and their running dog lackeys in academia.
Great post....Words of wisdom... I honestly don't care what gays do on their own time but I do wish that they stop insisting on being married.... Some sort of legal status that would give them insurance and financial rights would be ok however they should not insist on calling it marriage.
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IMO, Denying homosexuals marriage is in no way a lack of rights for them. All men in the US are permitted to marry a woman, and all women are permitted to marry a man. Every person in the US has that same very identical right. If one does not find such an option desirable, or non-applicable, for them it is their right to pass on the right of marriage to a member of the opposite sex.
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Up to 13-20 per cent of the population are non-heterosexual (be it actively homosexual or exhibiting homosexual tendencies), so it is very much a socioeconomical issue. Surveys and other investigations of the prevalence of homosexuality have shown quite varying results, everything from as little as two in a hundred individuals --or every 50th -- being homosexual to as many as every fifth. My feeling is that both extremes are inaccurate, but I do certainly also believe that a substantial part of the population actually exhibits some sort of homosexual tendency or outrightly practices homosexuality. I do not believe in a concept of complete homosexuality or complete heterosexuality, as there are rich examples of otherwise practicing heterosexuals engaging in acts of homosexuality and vice versa. Studies have shown that there might be a correlation between homosexuality and biological factors, as well as other studies have shown that the brain structure seen among homosexual males differed from the one seen among heterosexuals. I believe that individuals can have a tendency to exhibit homosexual behavior, the dominance of such tendency differing among individuals, with urges to participate in homosexual activities being occasional or practically nonexistent amongst some, while the urge is much stronger and even constant among others. Having both homosexual and heterosexual liaisons is a choice, and on that level a religious view on such things can spur behavior that is morally acceptable in that religion, but the attraction to other individuals, be it of the same or the opposite sex, cannot necessarily be seen as a choice.
There is a significant precentage of the population also suffers from eating disorders. BTW this percentage seems to increase in relation to how affluent, liberal, and materialistic the society is. Now there are "pro-ano" organizations, who claim anorexia is a life style and not a sickness. They demand recognitions too.
So my basic premise is that homosexuality -- in one form or the other -- is prevalent, and that it is simply, as mentioned earlier, a fact of nature. Both liberals, conservatives and libertarians hail the liberal democracy. One of the premises for a liberal democracy is an equality of rights and liberties, unregarding gender, ethnicity and sexuality. Even though I am not in any way interested in homosexual relationships and I actually see a development in the direction of acceptance and normalisation of such relationships as harmful for traditional family values, which I see as beneficial -- the family values and not the development, mind you -- I find it difficult from a pro-democratic point of view to attempt forcing own values, ideology and religion upon others, as well as I cannot morally defend impeding or limiting the liberties of individuals -- those who do not seek to limit the liberties of others -- on an arbitrary basis. Furthermore, I see state discrimination with the purpose of promoting a certain religious or moral doctrine not as a conservative position, but as a fascist position. The conservative distrusts the state, and therefore I find it difficult making the encouragement of my values a state task, especially if it involves democratically problematic legislature and programmes.
As individuals Homosexuals have the same liberties, rights and everything under the law. They demand things beyond personal liberties. They demand the creations of new institutions such as the same sex marriage. They demand that such union would be recognize and enjoy exactly the same benefits that traditional marriage have. Even in liberal democracy there is not absolute equality between different institutions such states, cities, police departments, etc. It is impossible even to determine what is equality in such a case. The thing is, an individual is free to leave from city A to city B.
It is not anti-liberal for society to say that since traditional marriage are beneficial for social good they should be encouraged. If a homosexual individual choses to enter into such union he too will get the same benefits as part of a traditional married couple. So he cannot claim that he is being discriminated. What they claim is that homosexual couples are. The same goes to bigamists (even more so since they are actually outlaws), and other forms of alternative family units.
This, of course, also extends to for instance taxation of homosexual couples in registered "marriages", "partnerships", "civil unions" -- call it what you like -- and the legal aspects of inheritance between partners in a homosexual relationship, etc. Talking about homosexual reproduction, I see it as difficult bringing on the argument of the fact that homosexuals generally do not reproduce as much as heterosexuals as an argument for the discrimination of homosexuals. To make tax exempts pro-family (or pro-reproduction, if you like), they may be altered to grow with the amount of children a family has, or something similar. Talking about artificial reproduction, it is actually not necessary for reproduction among homosexuals, as is evident by the tradition of formal, legal relationships and "natural" insemination among homosexuals of opposite genders. You cannot do anything about that on legal ground, sSo if one regards homosexual parenthood a problem, then the solution is most likely somewhat fascist.
There are many reasons why homosexual couples makes bad economic sense. But it is true that they cannot produce offspring the normal and cheep way, since what they wish is naturally impossible- they want that two men or two women would be the only two legal parents of a child. It is impossible to achieve naturally. If they get a third element of opposite sex and use it for insemination in the natural way, then this person is legally a parent of the child while one of the homosexual couple who didn't "contribute" his/her genes has no legal rights to be a guardian for the child.
Hence most same sex couples who want children resort to more complex and expensive measures to get what they want. Women couples use artificial insemination, and some of them would even use the other woman as the host that give birth. Men couples have to buy themselves an egg and a host female and then legally adapt the child in a country that allows for such adoptions.
Now I agree that the state can't prevent people from producing such children, but I don't see why should it be obligated to encourage it either. If they don't get state support, then their methods which are costly and ineffective would produce very few such children. But if they get their way, then the state would have to allocate much resources to a counter-beneficial purpose.
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I don't get it, do we need a Faginem update every day?
The media gives us a Faginem update like every hour thanks to his gay-love fest "Recovery" that just came out.
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I don't get it, do we need a Faginem update every day?
The media gives us a Faginem update like every hour thanks to his gay-love fest "Recovery" that just came out.
I don't like him because he's a wigger and I think white people should have white culture and stand proud in who they are. At least his daughter is white, although I fear she might become a coalburner with a father like that. It's really unfortunate if he's gay (well, not really an if, I think you've established it pretty well), but that's really between him and God (and his doctors if he catches something from it). I guess what actually bothers me about him most is how he encourages other white people to get involved in black culture and be a bunch of degenerates.
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I don't think he's gay at all -- I think his recording sales and bookings have taken a dive and that now, on the advice of his manager, he's acting like a queer in hopes that he can salvage a huge audience of queers which he completely alienated for the past ten years.
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I don't think he's gay at all
Evidence of his homosexuality extends back to his very first record (The Slim Shady LP). He created a flamingly homosexual character, "Ken Kaniff", that he used in skits for his first couple of albums. During concerts, he rubbed the faces of inflatable dolls representing members of ICP (a metal group he hates) on his crotch. His second album, featured a song, "Amityville", that had one of his bandmembers (the morbidly obese negro Bizarre) graphically describing a homosexual incest encounter. Also on this album (The Marshall Mathers LP), he voiced support for gay marriage on "The Real Slim Shady", the most successful song of the record. Finally, as I already pointed out, he actually admits to a sexual relationship with Dr. Dre (which Dr. Dre then concurs with in his cameo appearance) on "My Dad's Gone Crazy" on his third album, The Eminem Show.
This isn't even accounting for the numerous times that he has always dressed in drag, his nonstop references to homosexuality in all of his work, his support for gay organizations and the pro-homosexuality theme of his movie 8 Mile, etc.
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IMO, Denying homosexuals marriage is in no way a lack of rights for them. All men in the US are permitted to marry a woman, and all women are permitted to marry a man. Every person in the US has that same very identical right. If one does not find such an option desirable, or non-applicable, for them it is their right to pass on the right of marriage to a member of the opposite sex.
Correct, homosexuality is not a civil rights issue either:
The assertion that homosexuals are persecuted a minority group under current civil rights law is false. Minority status has been determined by the U.S. Supreme Court based on three criteria:
1. Economic Deprivation: No! Those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle are among the most advantaged people in the U.S. On
average, they have a higher per capita income than heterosexuals and higher household incomes.
Wall Street Journal, February 10, 1989, and New York Times, August 22, 1990.
2. Political Powerlessness: No! Homosexuals demonstrate great influential political power far beyond their actual numbers.
The Human Rights Campaign Fund has annually donated millions of dollars to candidates, more than most other non-corporate
PACs (The Economist, April 24, 1993). Media news and entertainment coverage is overwhelmingly favorable.
3. Immutable Characteristics: No! Minority groups share unchangeable, benign, non-behavioral traits such as race, ethnicity,
disability or national origin. Homosexuals are the only group to claim minority status based on behavior! There are ex-gays but we can never find an ex-black or ex-hispanic/latino.
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The term GLBT is for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender. This means that they not only advocate sodomy, but also advocate having multiple partners and defacing their bodies.
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Geeeh, errrr uhhhh, it IS the PEOPLE's business to define or REDEFINE what marriage is.
regardless of what you think about homosexuality, if our government pushes to redefine the definition of marriage against the will of the people, its is EXTREMELY important that we MAKE IT our business.
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The term GLBT is for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender. This means that they not only advocate sodomy, but also advocate having multiple partners and defacing their bodies.
Unfortunately the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network (GLSEN) hosts numerous conferences for school teachers and
students around the nation each year. The organization uses workshops to advance its radical agenda, some of which have been entitled:
* Ask The Transsexuals
* Early Childhood Educators: How to Decide Whether to Come Out or Not
* Lesbian Avengers: How to Promote Queer Friendly Activism in Your Schools and in Your Lives
* Diesel Dykes and Lipstick Lesbians: Defining and Identifying Butch/Femme Identity
* The Religious Wrong: Dealing Effectively with Opposition in Your Community
* Starting a Gay/Straight Alliance in Your School
* Public Employees Teach Kids Gay Sex
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Dr. Brennan Fan,
I am not asking this in a malicious way or anything other than genuine curiousity. Why do you care? Everytime, I see this grotesque, ill mannered, slang wielding pervert, I actively avert my eyes to him. I dislike like having to look at him because of what he represents. Why? Because he is a genuinely unpleasant, vile creature who represents acutely how America is going down the toilet. What is it about him that interests you? Incidently, I feel the same way about his more publicly accepted gay bff, Elton John who is about the most annoying self-righteous and painful to listen to creature to hit the stage since I don't know who. Why people would spend their money to listen to either of these creatures is .....unimaginable
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How is gay marriage any of our business?
Geeeh, errrr uhhhh, it IS the PEOPLE's business to define or REDEFINE what marriage is.
regardless of what you think about homosexuality, if our government pushes to redefine the definition of marriage against the will of the people, its is EXTREMELY important that we MAKE IT our business.
Amen!
What same-sex "marriage" has done to Massachusetts
It's far worse than most people realize
October 20, 2008
by Brian Camenker
Anyone who thinks that same-sex “marriage” is a benign eccentricity which won’t affect the average person should consider what it has done in Massachusetts. It’s become a hammer to force the acceptance and normalization of homosexuality on everyone. And this train is moving fast. What has happened so far is only the beginning.
On November 18, 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court announced its Goodridge opinion, ruling that it was unconstitutional not to allow same-sex “marriage.” Six months later, homosexual marriages began to be performed.
More info here...
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html
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The term GLBT is for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender. This means that they not only advocate sodomy, but also advocate having multiple partners and defacing their bodies.
Unfortunately the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network (GLSEN) hosts numerous conferences for school teachers and
students around the nation each year. The organization uses workshops to advance its radical agenda, some of which have been entitled:
* Ask The Transsexuals
* Early Childhood Educators: How to Decide Whether to Come Out or Not
* Lesbian Avengers: How to Promote Queer Friendly Activism in Your Schools and in Your Lives
* Diesel Dykes and Lipstick Lesbians: Defining and Identifying Butch/Femme Identity
* The Religious Wrong: Dealing Effectively with Opposition in Your Community
* Starting a Gay/Straight Alliance in Your School
* Public Employees Teach Kids Gay Sex
CZ, where does it say that "Public employees are teaching gay sex to kids" I would be very interested in seeing such a weblink so that members can confirm this. I've read your other deceitful posts that provide misinformation. I'll be happy to eat crow if you show us a website where it says this.....Seriously
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The term GLBT is for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender. This means that they not only advocate sodomy, but also advocate having multiple partners and defacing their bodies.
This is really sad...
On the Monday of "Gay Pride Week" Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, one of the largest and most prestigious hospitals in New England, invited their staff to a special "Lesbian Gay Bisexual, Transgender Achievement Awards" ceremony -- "in recognition of the many outstanding contributions of individuals and groups to the advancement of LGBT issues in the community." This has now become a yearly event for Beth Israel.
More here:
Beth Israel Hospital holds awards ceremony for GLBT activists for "gay pride week"...
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10c/pride_week/beth_israel.html
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CZ, I went to the GLSEN website, there is NO such post that describes teaching gay sex to children. Who is the pervert who thought that up? Not GLSEN, maybe someone else....
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CZ, where does it say that "Public employees are teaching gay sex to kids" I would be very interested in seeing such a weblink so that members can confirm this. I've read your other deceitful posts that provide misinformation. I'll be happy to eat crow if you show us a website where it says this.....Seriously
Did you not read about the Obamas claiming that they had taught their children (Shasha and Malia) that homosexuality was normal?
Read more here:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/horror_stories.html
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CZ, I went to the GLSEN website, there is NO such post that describes teaching gay sex to children. Who is the pervert who thought that up? Not GLSEN, maybe someone else....
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/black_book_inside.html
(http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/images/page_27.jpg)
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I've read your other deceitful posts that provide misinformation.
Did you read the "deceitful" writings of Prophet Moses that provide misinformation yet?
# Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
# Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
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I've read your other deceitful posts that provide misinformation.
Did you read the "deceitful" writings of Prophet Moses that provide misinformation yet?
# Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
# Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
WHERES THE POST FROM GLSEN ADVOCATING "PUBLIC EMPLOYEES TEACHING SEX TO MINORS." YOU DONT EVEN KNOW, NEVER MIND FOLLOW, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
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The term GLBT is for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender. This means that they not only advocate sodomy, but also advocate having multiple partners and defacing their bodies.
http://massresistance.blogspot.com/?zx=1c4dfd09d3440b9b
As of now, the following LGBT leaders have secured spots in the Obama administration:
Mark Agrast- Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legislative Affairs at the Department of Justice
Raul Alvillar- Congressional Relations Officer, Housing and Urban Development
Judy Applebaum- Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legislative Affairs at the Department of Justice
Cynthia Attwood- Member, Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission
Vic Basile- Senior Counselor to the Director, Office of Personnel Management
Anthony Bernal- Scheduler, Office of Dr. Jill Biden
Jeremy Bernard- Director of White House and Congressional Affairs, National Endowment for the Humanities
John Berry- Director, Office of Personnel Management
Jeremy Bishop- Special Assistant to the Secretary, Office of Public Engagement at the Department of Labor
Brian Bond- Deputy Director, White House Office of Public Engagement
Raphael Bostic- Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research, Housing and Urban Development
Ebs Burnough- Deputy Social Secretary, Office of the First Lady
Michael Camunez- Assistant Secretary for Market Access and Compliance, Department of Commerce
Lyle Canceko- Deputy Director, Center for Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, Department of Commerce
Jamison Citron- Confidential Assistant, Office of White House Liaison, Department of Health and Human Services
Brook Colangelo- Chief Information Officer, White House Office of Administration
John Connor- Director, Office of White House Liaison at the Department of Commerce
John Coppola- Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board
Jeffrey Crowley- Director, Office of National AIDS Policy
Fred Davie- Member, President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
Justin DeJong- Deputy Press Secretary, Department of Agriculture
Marisa Demeo- Associate Judge, DC Superior Court
Jenny Durkan- U.S. Attorney, Western District of Washington
John Easton- Director, Institute of Education Sciences
Eric Fanning- Deputy Under Secretary of the Navy
Chai Feldblum- Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
Carl Fillichio- Senior Advisor to the Secretary of Labor for Public Affairs and Communications
Daniel Gordon- Administrator for Federal Procurement Policy, OMB
Kathy Greenlee- Assistant Secretary, Administration on Aging, Department of Health and Human Services
Steve Gunderson- Member, President’s Commission on White House Fellows
David Hansell- Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Children and Families, Administration for Children and Families
Emily Hewitt- Chief Justice, U.S. Court of Federal Claims
Jennifer Ho- Deputy Director, Accountability Management at the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness
Fred Hochberg- Chairman, U.S. Export-Import Bank
David Huebner- U.S. Ambassador to New Zealand
Glenda Humiston- State Director for Rural Development in California
Shin Inouye- Director, Specialty Media
John Isa- Deputy Executive Director, Federal Office of Compliance
Karine Jean-Pierre- Regional Director, Office of Political Affairs
Kevin Jennings- Deputy Assistant Secretary, Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools
Kristina Johnson- Under Secretary, Department of Energy
Jenn Jones- Special Assistant, Department of Housing and Urban Development
Elaine Kaplan- General Counsel, Office of Personnel Management
Brad Kiley- Director, White House Office of Management and Administration
Harry Knox- Member, President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
Kei Koizumi- Assistant Director for Federal Research and Development, Office of Science and Technology Policy
Andy Lee- Chief of Staff, Office of Innovation and Improvement at the Department of Education
Jeffrey Lerner- Regional Director, Office of Political Affairs
Sara Lipscomb- General Counsel, Small Business Administration
Zach Liscow- Staff Economist, Council of Economic Advisers
Thomas Lopach- Senior Vice President, Congressional Affairs, U.S. Export-Import Bank
Sharon Lubinski- U.S. Marshall
John Marble- Public Affairs Specialist, Office of Personnel Management
Jeffrey Marburg-Goodman- Special Counsel to the USAID Administrator
Mercedes Marquez- Assistant Secretary for Community Planning and Development, Department of Housing and Urban Development
Kathy Martinez- Assistant Secretary for Disability Employment Policy, Department of Labor
Michael Martinez- Special Assistant, National Resources Conservation Division, USDA
Mary Beth Maxwell- Senior Advisor, Department of Labor
Philip McNamara- Executive Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
David Medina- Deputy Chief of Staff, Office of the First Lady
David Mills- Assistant Secretary for Export Enforcement, Department of Commerce
Alison Nathan- Associate Counsel to the President, White House Counsels Office
Jeffrey Neal- Chief Human Capital Officer, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Ven Neralla- Director of Priority Placement, Presidential Personnel
Dave Noble- White House Liaison, National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Matt Nosanchuk- Senior Counselor to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Department of Justice
Dylan Orr- Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy
Joseph Palacios- Board of Visitors for WHINSEC
Paolo Palugod- Special Assistant to the Assistant Attorney General for the Environment and Natural Resources Division, DOJ
Peter Pappas- Chief Communications Officer for the United States Patent and Trademark Office, Department of Commerce
Raul Perea-Henze- Assistant Secretary of Policy and Planning, Department of Veterans Affairs
Drew Perraut- Policy Analyst, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, OMB
Mark Perriello- Director of Priority Placement, Presidential Personnel
Gautam Raghavan- Deputy White House Liaison at the Department of Defense
Peter Roehrig- Special Assistant, Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy
Constance L. Rogers- Deputy Solicitor for Energy and Mineral Resources at Interior
Donna Ryu- U.S. Magistrate Judge for the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California
Ellie Sue Schafer- Director, White House Visitors Office
Tarak Shah- White House Council on Environmental Quality
Amanda Simpson- Senior Technical Advisor to the Department of Commerce, Bureau of Industry and Security
Richard Sorian- Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, HHS
Campbell Spencer- Regional Director, Office of Political Affairs
Everette Stubbs- Deputy Director, White House Visitors Center
Nancy Sutley- Chair, White House Council on Environmental Quality
Jonathan Swain- Assistant Administrator, Small Business Administration
Kenneth Tolson- Member, President’s Board of Advisors on Historically Black Colleges and Universities
Moe Vela- Director of Operations, Office of the Vice President
Alex Wagner- Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs
Douglas B. Wilson- Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, Department of Defense
William Woolston- Staff Economist, Council of Economic Advisers
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I see now we're spamming because we've been caught out providing DISinformation. Ok, well, as I said there's a place in Gehenom for people who deliberately lie in order to foment hate towards others.. As another member pointed out to me, there's plenty of real things to say, so why lie, CZ? Why not talk about your disagreement with say Heather has two mommies, why make up such explicit sexually based lies? Why would anyone choose to do that? hmmm
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I was the other member that suggested there's no need to exaggerate things when there is real gay-lifestyle propaganda aimed at kids. Here's another example:
http://www.amazon.com/Tango-Makes-Three-Peter-Parnell/dp/0689878451/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_1
This is supposed to be, in a very sneaky way, promoting the idea that two men make just as good of parents as a man and a woman. I don't know why the feminists don't get upset about it really, it basically says women are unecessary.
There's a lot more you can find on Amazon.
I haven't seen anything yet that actually shows graphic gay sex to kids.
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I was the other member that suggested there's no need to exaggerate things when there is real gay-lifestyle propaganda aimed at kids. Here's another example:
http://www.amazon.com/Tango-Makes-Three-Peter-Parnell/dp/0689878451/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_1
This is supposed to be, in a very sneaky way, promoting the idea that two men make just as good of parents as a man and a woman. I don't know why the feminists don't get upset about it really, it basically says women are unecessary.
There's a lot more you can find on Amazon.
I haven't seen anything yet that actually shows graphic gay sex to kids.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/black_book_inside.html
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JTFe, you are really starting to act like a troll.
Have you left the gay lifestyle or haven't you?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/critics-assail-obamas-safe-schools-czar-say-hes-wrong-man-job/
"Fisting"? If "fisting" is being taught who knows what else is being taught, what other sex acts were explained before starting in on something that depraved?
Critics Assail Obama's 'Safe Schools' Czar, Say He's Wrong Man for the Job
By Maxim Lott
Published September 23, 2009
EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this story was originally published, the former student referred to as "Brewster" has stepped forward to reveal that he was 16 years old, not 15, at the time of the incident described in this report.
Click here to read the latest story.
President Obama's "safe schools czar" is a former schoolteacher who has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, written about his past drug abuse, expressed his contempt for religion and detailed an incident in which he did not report an underage student who told him he was having sex with older men.
Conservatives are up in arms about the appointment of Kevin Jennings, Obama's director of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools, saying he is too radical for the job.
Jennings was appointed to the position largely because of his longtime record of working to end bullying and discrimination in schools. In 1990, as a teacher in Massachusetts, he founded the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which now has over 40 chapters at schools nationwide. He has also published six books on gay rights and education, including one that describes his own experiences as a closeted gay student.
The OSDFS was created by the Bush administration in 2002. According to its Web site, one of its primary functions is to "provide financial assistance for drug and violence prevention activities and activities that promote the health and well being of students in elementary and secondary schools, and institutions of higher education."
Jennings' critics say he fits only half the bill, if that.
"Jennings was obviously chosen for this job because of the safe schools aspect... defining 'safe schools' narrowly in terms of 'safe for homosexuality'," Peter Sprigg, a senior fellow at the Family Research Council, told FOXNews.com.
"But at least half of the job involves creating drug-free schools, and we've not been offered any evidence about what qualifications Jennings has for promoting drug-free schools."
Jennings' detractors note that he made four references to his personal drug abuse in his 2007 autobiography, "Mama's Boy, Preacher's Son: A Memoir." On page 103, discussing his high school years in Hawaii in the early 1980s, Jennings wrote:
"I got stoned more often and went out to the beach at Bellows, overlooking Honolulu Harbor and the lights of the city, to drink with my buddies on Friday and Saturday nights, spending hours watching the planes take off and land at the airport, which is actually quite fascinating when you are drunk and stoned."
Sprigg said that quote is particularly unacceptable for someone who has been named to lead America's Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools.
"It would be nice to hear from Mr. Jennings ... that he regrets the drug use he engaged in when he was in school," Sprigg said. "But in this autobiography, which Mr. Jennings wrote only recently, he never expresses any regret about his youthful drug use."
But Amanda Terkel, deputy research director at the Center for American Progress, sees Jennings' comments about drugs in a different light.
"We have had elected officials do [drugs] and we still believe it is fine for them to be elected," she said. "This is a point in his life that he was struggling ... I think those experiences now help him reach out to students, relate to what they are going through, and help them through their problems."
Liberal groups remain in Jennings' corner, saying he is fully qualified for his position and is the victim of a right-wing smear campaign. But Jennings' detractors point to other things he has said that alarm social conservatives.
In 1997, according to a transcript put together by Brian J. Burt, managing editor of the student-run Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Jennings said he hoped that promoting homosexuality in schools would be considered fine in the future.
"One of our board members" was called to testify before Congress when they had hearings on the promotion of homosexuality in schools," Jennings said. "And we were busy putting out press releases, and saying, "We're not promoting homosexuality, that's not what our program's about. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.... '
"Being finished might someday mean that most straight people, when they would hear that someone was promoting homosexuality, would say 'Yeah, who cares?' because they wouldn't necessarily equate homosexuality with something bad that you would not want to promote."
The group Jennings founded has also been accused of promoting homosexuality in schools. At a GLSEN conference in 2000, co-sponsored with the Massachusetts Department of Education, the group landed in hot water when it was revealed that it had included an educational seminar for kids that graphically described some unorthodox sex techniques.
A state official who spoke to teens at the conference said:
"Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's rectum or vagina) often gets a bad rap....[It's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."
At the time, Jennings said he had concerns about events at the conference, but he also criticized attendees who filmed it.
"From what I've heard, I have concerns as well," Jennings told the Boston Globe in May 2000. "GLSEN believes that children do have a right to accurate, safer sex education, but this needs to be delivered in an age-appropriate and sensitive manner.
"What troubles me is the people who have the tape know what our mission is, they know that our work is about preventing harassment and they know that session was not the totality of what was offered at a conference with over 50 sessions," he said.
But Peter LaBarbera, President of "Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, said Jennings' reaction was weak and unacceptable.
"He never really apologized. If a conservative group had done that, they would be out of business," LaBarbera said.
The religious right is also alarmed by Jennings' personal views about religion. In his memoir, he wrote of his views while he was in high school:
"What had [God] done for me, other than make me feel shame and guilt? Squat. Screw you, buddy -- I don't need you around anymore, I decided.
"The Baptist Church had left me only a legacy of self-hatred, shame, and disappointment, and I wanted no more of it or its Father. The long erosion of my faith was now complete, and I, for many years, reacted violently to anyone who professed any kind of religion. Decades passed before I opened a Bible again."
Terkel said Jennings was writing about a "low point" in his life, and he now considers himself a religious person.
"Since then he has been involved in the Union Theological Seminary," she said. "He does consider himself religious. He tithes -- I just don't see any evidence that he is hostile to religion."
Jennings is on the board of the Union Theological Seminary, which describes itself as "progressive and evangelical."
Another controversy from Jennings' past concerns an account in his 1994 book, "One Teacher In 10," about how, as a teacher, he knew a high school sophomore named Brewster who was "involved" with an "older man":
"Out spilled a story about his involvement with an older man he had met in Boston. I listened, sympathized, and offered advice. He left my office with a smile on his face that I would see every time I saw him on the campus for the next two years, until he graduated."
The account led Diane Lenning, head of the National Education Association's Republican Educators Caucus, to criticize Jennings in 2004 for not alerting school and state authorities about the boy's situation, calling Jennings' failure to do so an "unethical practice."
Jennings threatened to sue Lenning for libel, saying she had no evidence that he knew the student in question was sexually active, or that he failed to report the situation.
But a professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania, Warren Throckmorton, has produced an audio recording of a speech Jennings gave in 2000 at a GLSEN rally in Iowa, in which Jennings made it clear that he believed the student was sexually active:
"I said, 'What were you doing in Boston on a school night, Brewster?' He got very quiet, and he finally looked at me and said, 'Well I met someone in the bus station bathroom and I went home with him.' High school sophomore, 15 years old' I looked at Brewster and said, 'You know, I hope you knew to use a condom.'" [Audio is available on the professor's Web site.]
The Washington Times reported in 2004 that "state authorities said Mr. Jennings filed no report in 1988." A spokeswoman for the Massachusetts Department for Children and Families, the department to which Jennings -- as a Massachusetts teacher -- would have been legally obliged to report the situation, did not return calls from FOXNews.com.
GLSEN spokesman Daryl Presgraves told FOXNews.com that all the attacks on Jennings were hate-motivated smears, but he declined to address individual issues.
"From falsehoods to misrepresentations to things taken out of context to outright smears -- all of which have been fully debunked -- these groups will stop at nothing to ensure that no effective action is taken to address bullying based on sexual orientation and gender identity/expression in America's schools.
"They have failed to derail and slander GLSEN's well-respected work in the education world, which includes partnerships with numerous national education organizations, and they now seek to tarnish Kevin Jennings' highly regarded career as an educator."
But Sprigg countered that nobody has adequately answered the questions that are being raised about Jennings.
Speaking of Jennings' job, he said: "I think it's unfortunate that [it] is a position that did not require any sort of confirmation process, because there are a lot of serious questions about Jennings and there has not been any forum in which Jennings has been required to answer the questions."
Jennings forwarded questions from FOXNews.com to Department of Education spokesman Justin Hamilton, who declined to comment.
But Terkel said that Jennings' appointment showed that the Obama administration was taking safe schools seriously.
"For a long time I think this position was largely neglected. It was seen as a throwaway position [by the Bush administration.] Now the Obama administration has made an attempt to find someone who, in many ways, seems tailor-made for this position. [Jennings] has devoted his whole career to promoting safe schools."
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why the eminem obessesion...
and
"ill stab you in the head, whether you are a fag or les" is hardly talk of a gay, plus hes got a child caled halilley whihc completel rebuttalls "fagenem" baloney..
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Thanks C4J. I'm done with these misfits
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Thanks C4J. I'm done with these misfits
Why do you keep defending homos?
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Re: "Thanks C4J. I'm done with these misfits"
Stick around.
There is no better bunch of sick, twisted, and confused misfits to be found anywhere on the world wide web.
People are the same everywhere -- messed up and basically a lot of senseless trouble.
It's too late in the game for leaving.
The secret for happiness at JTF.org Forum two-fold:
First, learn to stop perceiving others' posts and replies as being "personal affronts", even though they most likely are so.
Second, learn as well how to avoid leaving follow-ups and replies which could possibly be perceived by others as being "targeted directly at their individual personalities and/or value systems rather than being targeted at impersonal concepts".
More often than not, impersonal questions, statements, and replies; using only impersonal pronouns and questions directed to no one in particular, will work to eliminate about 98% of all interpersonal relationship problems on a forum such as this, and this is because of the difference in the written word, as opposed to how we speak.
Writing one's thoughts exactly as one speaks them in everyday conversation results in serious miscommunication when dealing with others using only the written word.
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Case in point:
- Why in the HELL don't YOU start making sense with all the CRAP replies YOU keep posting to MY posts? HUH? GET IT YET, FAG???
-vs- the 'impersonal' style of literature:
- A more highly effective response will be one entirely avoiding the use of one's sexual preference as a reference!
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The other 2% of the problem dealing with others in a public forum - the never ending and deliberate personal attacks for purposes of starting fights, should be answered with SILENCE -- NO REPLY -- NO RESPONSE.
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But I'd suffocate for the respect, before I breathe to collect a f***' check. Becuae alot of truth in the booth, is said is jest"..
"half the s**t i say i just make it up to make you mad, so kiss my white naked ass"..
I could go on with quotes, but the guy bACK IN THE day said things to get a reaction. And in DBF case it worked...
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Thanks C4J. I'm done with these misfits
What's this about, Who are the misfits ?
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Re: "Who are the misfits ?"
Clark Gable, Marilyn Monroe, and some others.
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I thought that we were the three stooges:
(http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/threestooges.jpg)[gimmage]
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NOT you Zelhar, not most of the people here
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Thanks C4J. I'm done with these misfits
Why do you keep defending homos?
That is my question to C4J and JTFe2 as well.
What is the need to defend gays in a religious forum? It is a disrespect to G-d and His Torah.
The sad part is, these guys try to educate us about gays...
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CZ,
You've already been exposed as someone who deliberately lies in order to promote an agenda. Best case scenario, you're just dishonest and not a pervert yourself projecting your own thoughts onto others. I mean I can't imagine even thinking about the deviant things you describe. Then when I go to check out your 'facts,' none of the stuff you allege is there. This means it's coming from your head. And that means the only sicko in the room..is you
What's incredibly disrespectful to God is your lying..over and over again so that you can promulgate your own twisted thoughts onto others. The fact that none of the stuff you have written is verified demonstrates your proclivity for lying--no matter what the moral implications
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I am glad the recent fag related threads exposed fag sympathizers in a religious forum like JTF's.
Fag logic is flawed logic!
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I am glad the recent fag related threads exposed fag sympathizers in a religious forum like JTF's.
Fag logic is flawed logic!
Get professional help
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Gays (at least) in Israel have institutes where they teach kids that being gay is not only acceptable but wanted. They teach them how to do what gays do (because of the holiness of the forum, I will not elaborate). In Tel Aviv, the word "straight" has become a slur. I'm sure that in America the situation is far worse than that, and this culture makes the Negro culture look sympathetic and angelic. The people who are part of this culture are so evil I wouldn't mind handing the Goy ones to the hands of the Muslims.
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Gays (at least) in Israel have institutes where they teach kids that being gay is not only acceptable but wanted. They teach them how to do what gays do (because of the holiness of the forum, I will not elaborate). In Tel Aviv, the word "straight" has become a slur. I'm sure that in America the situation is far worse than that, and this culture makes the Negro culture look sympathetic and angelic. The people who are part of this culture are so evil I wouldn't mind handing the Goy ones to the hands of the Muslims.
Ron, thanks for the info about the gay menace in Israel. These filthy gays are really defiling God's promised Holy land. If their influence continue to grow in number in Israel, then Israel does not need Iran or muslims to get destroyed!
Any gay sympathizer in this forum is also defiling the forum!
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Gays (at least) in Israel have institutes where they teach kids that being gay is not only acceptable but wanted. They teach them how to do what gays do (because of the holiness of the forum, I will not elaborate). In Tel Aviv, the word "straight" has become a slur. I'm sure that in America the situation is far worse than that, and this culture makes the Negro culture look sympathetic and angelic. The people who are part of this culture are so evil I wouldn't mind handing the Goy ones to the hands of the Muslims.
You might be doing them a favor..... I sure hope threads like this are doing something for the Hebrew forum because the forum numbers here on the English forum have been in a tail spin since threads like this have become the norm.... It's starting to look like the old Kahane forum with the same 4 or 5 main posters on each day bashing the Gentiles brains out. We all know how that ended up.. Here is some simple advice ... Grow up!!
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First, learn to stop perceiving others' posts and replies as being "personal affronts", even though they most likely are so.
That's the hardest part, especially if you feel like the other person wants to kill you or would be happy if someone else did it.
Second, learn as well how to avoid leaving follow-ups and replies which could possibly be perceived by others as being "targeted directly at their individual personalities and/or value systems rather than being targeted at impersonal concepts".
That's also hard. Lately I've felt like I've been walking on eggshells.
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First, learn to stop perceiving others' posts and replies as being "personal affronts", even though they most likely are so.
That's the hardest part, especially if you feel like the other person wants to kill you or would be happy if someone else did it.
Second, learn as well how to avoid leaving follow-ups and replies which could possibly be perceived by others as being "targeted directly at their individual personalities and/or value systems rather than being targeted at impersonal concepts".
That's also hard. Lately I've felt like I've been walking on eggshells.
Walking on eggshells. Exactly.
I'm disgusted by this thread.
I don't believe JTFenthusiast2 is here promoting any agenda. He is a good and decent person.
Threads like this have to stop.
You are destroying JTF.
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Re: "Lately I've felt like I've been walking on eggshells."
I know just what you mean ! :'(
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He seems like a decent guy to me too.
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Bullcat,
Thank you......
Correctly stated.......
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Listen...
I dont think JTFEnthusiast is trying to support any gay agenda... My understanding is that he questioned the scientific veracity of some of the claims made in the original post. Eventually things degraded to the point of name calling...
I think it is completely wrong. And JTFEnthusiast is only guilty of standing up against what he sees as unrighteous indignation. Sure, as I originally pointed out, that this lifestyle is an abomination. Sure, I will concede, there are diseases and unhealthyness in this lifestyle. But sometimes some people do take their anger out on the gays, and turn away from some of the other mitzvahs which are also important.
I do not make any excuses for them, I don't really understand their motivation. But I can try to apply my experience struggling with addiction to drugs to understand that sometimes people are drawn to things which they don't necessarily want to be drawn to. I will not go through the whole argument again.
But we believe that people can change and repent. My only point is that we should not make excuses even if there are exagerations against homosexuality. Maybe it will persuade a naive youth to stay away from it...
But please don't take this out on JTFEnthusiast... I think we should try to unify instead of divide us, and I have seen too much division here lately.
PS: Now I realize this is the faginem thread and not the disease thread... Im sorry to DBF for the mistake, but I still understand the reason for this behavior.
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why the eminem obessesion...
and
"ill stab you in the head, whether you are a fag or les" is hardly talk of a gay, plus hes got a child caled halilley whihc completel rebuttalls "fagenem" baloney..
Feminem did not start pretending to attack homosexuals until ICP called him out with their diss, "Slim Anus", which exposed his homosexual life.
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I could go on with quotes, but the guy bACK IN THE day said things to get a reaction. And in DBF case it worked...
So you are admitting that his phony gaybashing was just that, a lie? If it "worked" for me, then I would really believe he was homophobic, but I never did.
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CZ,
You've already been exposed as someone who deliberately lies in order to promote an agenda. Best case scenario, you're just dishonest and not a pervert yourself projecting your own thoughts onto others. I mean I can't imagine even thinking about the deviant things you describe. Then when I go to check out your 'facts,' none of the stuff you allege is there. This means it's coming from your head. And that means the only sicko in the room..is you
What's incredibly disrespectful to G-d is your lying..over and over again so that you can promulgate your own twisted thoughts onto others. The fact that none of the stuff you have written is verified demonstrates your proclivity for lying--no matter what the moral implications
*troll alert* I bet you come from the GLAAD website.
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Muman,
I think you understand exactly JTFE's position.
And, I agree that there is NO reason for the division that has been taking place for far too long within this thread.
Thank you........
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Threads like this have to stop.
You are destroying JTF.
WTF Bullcat? "I" am "destroying JTF" because I posted a news item on how a famous homosexual "musician" is using his popularity and influence to promote the gay agenda?
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I have a lot of admiration for JTFEnthusiast because of the struggle he's chosen to take on. It was completely his choice what he chose to tell us, and I think we need to give him credit for that rather than using it as an opportunity to cause pain.
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He still owes us an explanation of why he keeps defending and crying out for homos.
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He still owes us an explanation of why he keeps defending and crying out for homos.
JTFE2 is a compassionate human being. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
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Threads like this have to stop.
You are destroying JTF.
WTF Bullcat? "I" am "destroying JTF" because I posted a news item on how a famous homosexual "musician" is using his popularity and influence to promote the gay agenda?
Please - you don't have to curse at me.
I don't really care about that famous 'musician' in the least.
I don't care if he is gay or not.
You certainly know that isn't what I was talking about.
This thread has taken a nasty turn against a decent member.
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He still owes us an explanation of why he keeps defending and crying out for homos.
JTFE2 is a compassionate human being. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
That is true..........
JTFE2 doesn't owe anyone anything.
He only owes himself and G-D.................
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He still owes us an explanation of why he keeps defending and crying out for homos.
JTFE2 is a compassionate human being. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
Agreed he doesn't owe anybody anything.
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I knew all will jump on me ;D
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I knew all will jump on me ;D
We can disagree with you Ron, without it being a personal attack. I think it would be best if you could see that disagreeing with you is not an attack on you, it's disagreement with something you said. Not every message that doesn't agree with you is an attack.
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I knew all will jump on me ;D
We can disagree with you Ron, without it being a personal attack. I think it would be best if you could see that disagreeing with you is not an attack on you, it's disagreement with something you said. Not every message that doesn't agree with you is an attack.
I feel different intentions but whatever
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The views of the womenfolk on this forum should be respected.
Enough of this foolishness!
Our Nazi trolls don't do half the damage to JTF as does the infighting among members on the forum.
As a tiny minority of people who are under threat of imminent annihilation by the "International Community", we simply have no time for the "luxury" of attacking each other for sins past or present.
This is exactly how Jerusalem fell to Rome, with the Jews divided against each other and too busy fighting internecine warfare to act in their own collective best interest.
STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES' S-H-I_T
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Massuh gone wild
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So I "caused infighting" by posting a NEWS ITEM about what the gay agenda is doing?
This is some warped thinking.
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But I'd suffocate for the respect, before I breathe to collect a f***' check. Becuae alot of truth in the booth, is said is jest"..
"half the s**t i say i just make it up to make you mad, so kiss my white naked donkey"..
I could go on with quotes, but the guy bACK IN THE day said things to get a reaction. And in DBF case it worked...
That's how he differentiated himself from other rappers. He changed the subject matter of his material dramatically on his major label debut to avoid the unfounded criticism that he was trying to sound like Nas or AZ.
D.B.F. is just speculating. There's enough wrong with Eminem that you can criticize him about. But he's not a homosexual.
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D.B.F. is just speculating. There's enough wrong with Eminem that you can criticize him about. But he's not a homosexual.
Did you see any of the facts about him that I have posted?
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I feel different intentions but whatever
Sorry you feel that way. That's one of the things I meant though when I felt like I have to walk on eggshells. I'm afraid if I say anything to disagree with you that you'll feel like I'm attacking you. We should be able to have a conversation about something and have it not get personal.
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D.B.F. is just speculating. There's enough wrong with Eminem that you can criticize him about. But he's not a homosexual.
Did you see any of the facts about him that I have posted?
He made an innocuous comment concerning homosexual "marriage". Big deal.
Also, the Insane Clown Posse's weak diss track is not proof of anything. Eminem owned them in that beef.
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Also, the Insane Clown Posse's weak diss track is not proof of anything. Eminem owned them in that beef.
Obviously you are a fan of Feminem, so you aren't going to listen to the mountain of evidence against him (75% of which comes from him, Dre, or his bandmates in D12).
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OMG!
I never thought I would read Insane Clown Posse on JTF... I just know that it looks meshugga...
(http://www.satorsquare.com/images/clown/insane-clown-posse.jpg)
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OMG!
I never thought I would read Insane Clown Posse on JTF... I just know that it looks meshugga...
(http://www.satorsquare.com/images/clown/insane-clown-posse.jpg)
Whether you like them or not, I think they told the truth about Feminem. They were a fixture of the Detroit underground rap/metal scene long before Feminem was a twinkling in Dr. Gay's eye, and they had access to all sorts of gossip and firsthand reports about him.
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I feel different intentions but whatever
Sorry you feel that way. That's one of the things I meant though when I felt like I have to walk on eggshells. I'm afraid if I say anything to disagree with you that you'll feel like I'm attacking you. We should be able to have a conversation about something and have it not get personal.
nvm
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Evidence of his homosexuality extends back to his very first record (The Slim Shady LP). He created a flamingly homosexual character, "Ken Kaniff", that he used in skits for his first couple of albums. During concerts, he rubbed the faces of inflatable dolls representing members of ICP (a metal group he hates) on his crotch. His second album, featured a song, "Amityville", that had one of his bandmembers (the morbidly obese negro Bizarre) graphically describing a homosexual incest encounter. Also on this album (The Marshall Mathers LP), he voiced support for gay marriage on "The Real Slim Shady", the most successful song of the record. Finally, as I already pointed out, he actually admits to a sexual relationship with Dr. Dre (which Dr. Dre then concurs with in his cameo appearance) on "My Dad's Gone Crazy" on his third album, The Eminem Show.
This isn't even accounting for the numerous times that he has always dressed in drag, his nonstop references to homosexuality in all of his work, his support for gay organizations and the pro-homosexuality theme of his movie 8 Mile, etc.
It's all shtick.
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D.B.F. is just speculating. There's enough wrong with Eminem that you can criticize him about. But he's not a homosexual.
Did you see any of the facts about him that I have posted?
DBF you are an old time member here at JTF and in my book that always carries a great deal of weight however.... Iran is looking to nuke Israel and the American way of life is under attack by radical elements of society.... We are in great trouble ...I understand your concern about the radical gay agenda but sometimes you carry the issue far... Lets focus on whats important and get JTF on to a productive track.
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Talking about Shtick, how about Alice Cooper...
I have heard his whole act is just that, an act... He is really a nice guy that everyone likes and not the horrible monster he plays on stage..
I saw Alice Cooper in the year 1988 and it was a very exciting show..
(http://www.olofssons.net/per/hudson/bilder/alice_cooper.jpg)
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It's all shtick.
He seems to have a pretty big fixation on male-male sexual encounters for it being all schtick. One or two faggot jokes, yeah, but the man made three albums filled with nonstop gay references, gay characters, and gay scenarios. (This is ignoring the "circumstantial" evidence like why is it that he has never been romantically linked with anyone after divorcing Kim, why he constantly poses in traditionally homosexual manners for photo/fashion shoots, why his look [closely-buzzed peroxide blond, cleanly shaven, constant wearing of wifebeaters/"muscle shirts"] is closely identified with the gay community, etc.)
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Maybe we should sign
(http://www.harrietcarter.com/resources/harrietCarter/images/products/processed/8445-1.zoom.a.jpg)
treaty?
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Obviously you are a fan of Feminem, so you aren't going to listen to the mountain of evidence against him (75% of which comes from him, Dre, or his bandmates in D12).
I took the time to read what you wrote, laughed a bit and then turned up the Rush album "Moving Pictures".
I hate rap noise, but I'm familiar with the culture because it's the dominant culture. The only way I'll believe that Eminem is a homosexual is if some gossip rag like People Magazine report on it.
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So I "caused infighting" by posting a NEWS ITEM about what the gay agenda is doing?
This is some warped thinking.
I wonder how long this particular obsession will last before you start posting a million irrelevant threads about yet another celebrity
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Obviously you are a fan of Feminem, so you aren't going to listen to the mountain of evidence against him (75% of which comes from him, Dre, or his bandmates in D12).
I took the time to read what you wrote, laughed a bit and then turned up the Rush album "Moving Pictures".
I hate rap noise, but I'm familiar with the culture because it's the dominant culture. The only way I'll believe that Eminem is a homosexual is if some gossip rag like People Magazine report on it.
Awesome... Moving Pictures came out just before Signals which I first saw in 1983...
Im a big Rush fan and have seen them a total of 5 times.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__RGPBBnf8b8/SV0GpQbajkI/AAAAAAAAAMc/AOfTdBT42eM/s400/rush_moving.jpg)(http://www.metallized.it/public/recensioni/Rush_Signals.jpg)
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Im a big Rush fan and have seen them a total of 5 times.
Heh. That's cool! That must of been quite the experience.
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I agree with most of what CZ posted about diseases that affect homosexuals more than straights. However it's true that MRSA and HPV are not just things that affect homosexuals even if they can be transmitted during sexual encounters of all types. If someone has multiple partners (as many gays do) then of course it's more likely to pass stuff on like that.
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Alice Cooper said he had to separate himself from his stage character in order to survive. He said part of the problem with many rockstars is that they try to be that person on the stage all the time and it destroys them.
Ron I like that shirt. lol
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It's definitely not right, but at least most of the really perverted stuff is being reserved for high school kids and not really children.
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Maybe we should sign
(http://www.harrietcarter.com/resources/harrietCarter/images/products/processed/8445-1.zoom.a.jpg)
treaty?
I have to get my moneys worth meaning that JTF has to come out ahead in the end... Nothing is personal here ... It's all whats best for the movement and what brings us people and :$:.
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I hate rap noise, but I'm familiar with the culture because it's the dominant culture. The only way I'll believe that Eminem is a homosexual is if some gossip rag like People Magazine report on it.
"Slim Anus" and "Nuttin but a Kurva Thang" were pretty humiliating disses. Slim Anus, in fact, is what singlehandedly prompted Faginem to start with the phony gaybashing crap on his second album (The Marshall Mathers LP). The pretty unanimous consensus by observers/critics was that it impacted Feminem a lot.
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Dr. Brennanfan,
With all of these various posts you and I have always been friendly. You never personally attacked me, nor I you--until you took up for CZ who is lying. Instead of listening to me and reading what I was saying you attacked me. I have explained 20 times on this forum that I do not think homosexuality is a good thing. I have been painfully explicit that my only objection is when I see all gay people here maligned for being the most evil people on earth. Homosexuality is a sin, but there are other aspects to being a human being. I and more former friends NEVER did the outraGeous things, the vile disgusting things that CZ tries to ascribe to people. Do you understand how those kind of lies lead to violence? Should I have been fired from my job for being gay---yes this happened. I never flaunted who I was, they just assumed after awhile I was gay because I didn't talk about my personal life. What was my crime? I shut my mouth, was a loyal employee, received superior performance evaluTions, etc. If I were a Troll, I would never have 'outed' myself here or used my real first name, nor would I have donated to JTF. The stuff CZ is saying is exactly the kind of things the Germans said about Jews. Who in their right mind even thinks about sex and children in the same sentence???? What I'm defending is the kind of falsehoods that lead people to think they can go out and attack other people. I am NOT in anyway saying gay is good-- at all
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You guys, it's one thing to condemn that promiscuous, drug taking, in-your-face lifestyle. We're ALL in agreement on how it's a bad thing. That includes JTFEnthusiast2. So it's wrong to imply that he's pushing the homosexual agenda here.
However we do need to make a distinction between those who want to shove that lifestyle down everyone's throats, and people like JTFEnthusiast2, who have chosen to avoid that kind of life. Frankly, I don't think we've been doing that here. All the posts on homosexuality I've seen here are "Fags this, gays that." So of course JTFEnthusiast2 will take it personally.
The fact of the matter is, JTFEnthusiast2 has chosen to not act on his attraction to other men. However, that does NOT make him a heterosexual. What he's been saying here is that he and people like him have been abused and discriminated against despite not acting on their attraction to members of the same sex. So when people here post about "Fags this fags that" of course he'll take it personally.
Whatever happened to loving the sinner but hating the sin?
Anyway, I think I'm going to lock this thread, since it's gone on for several pages already.