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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: TruthSpreader on July 01, 2010, 07:08:50 PM
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1. Germany. They've murdered six million Jews. Is that enough to be hated? I think so.
2. Saudi Arabia. They hate anyone who isn't Muslim. They helped kill 3,000 innocent Americans. They are brutal to their women and they kill anyone who dares converts from Islam to another religion!!! >:(
3. Iran. This country wants to not only wipe out Israel off the map but America as well. What a crazy country led by a crazy leader.
4. Pakistan. This country is a safe haven for Osama bin Laden and the Taliban and just like Iran, it is a nucelar power. India needs to liberate Pakistan before it threatens the Free World.
5. Britain. They helped murder the Jews. They certainly aren't friends of the Jews.
6. Russia. Same with Britain and Germany.
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1.) Germany - obvious
2.) Britain - helping the Nazis murdering over 6 millions Jews in the Holocaust, stealing our land and settling Arabs to continue their work, arming and financing the Arabs since ever, and finally pogroms and forced conversion to Christianity.
3.) Russia - murdering tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews, forcebly converting many of them, humiliating, raping them in pogroms, eilminating at least million of them directly in the days of the USSR and indirectly by co-operating with Nazi Germany, arming and financing the Arabs and spiritually Holocausting millions of Jews.
4.) Egypt - obvious
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China - it's the only world threat that actually scares me right now
Saudi Arabia - Extreme human rights abuses, similar to China
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My most hated countries obviously derive from my understanding of Torah...
I hate Rome!
I hate Arabia!
Rome was a brutal conquering nation which subjugated the Jewish people and dispersed them from our G-d given land. Rome was responsible for destroying our Holy Temple which we lament to this day {when we fast on Tish B'Av}... Rome represents Edom which was not destroyed when the Roman empire fell since the sparks of Rome created the modern superpowers of Europe.
Arabia is the land of Ishmael, the wild donkey of a man who was Abrahams son through Hagar. Ishmael has never let go the animosity he felt since Abraham sent him and his mother out of the house. The arabs who eventually followed the false prophet mohamud are still the descendants of Ishmael, and they will always be a thorn in our side {as the Torah explains}.
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My most hated countries obviously derive from my understanding of Torah...
I hate Rome!
I hate Arabia!
Rome was a brutal conquering nation which subjugated the Jewish people and dispersed them from our G-d given land. Rome was responsible for destroying our Holy Temple which we lament to this day {when we fast on Tish B'Av}... Rome represents Edom which was not destroyed when the Roman empire fell since the sparks of Rome created the modern superpowers of Europe.
Arabia is the land of Ishmael, the wild donkey of a man who was Abrahams son through Hagar. Ishmael has never let go the animosity he felt since Abraham sent him and his mother out of the house. The arabs who eventually followed the false prophet mohamud are still the descendants of Ishmael, and they will always be a thorn in our side {as the Torah explains}.
I think he talks about modern countries only
Too bad I can't explain why I hate all the countries I hate
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My most hated countries obviously derive from my understanding of Torah...
I hate Rome!
I hate Arabia!
Rome was a brutal conquering nation which subjugated the Jewish people and dispersed them from our G-d given land. Rome was responsible for destroying our Holy Temple which we lament to this day {when we fast on Tish B'Av}... Rome represents Edom which was not destroyed when the Roman empire fell since the sparks of Rome created the modern superpowers of Europe.
Arabia is the land of Ishmael, the wild donkey of a man who was Abrahams son through Hagar. Ishmael has never let go the animosity he felt since Abraham sent him and his mother out of the house. The arabs who eventually followed the false prophet mohamud are still the descendants of Ishmael, and they will always be a thorn in our side {as the Torah explains}.
I think he talks about modern countries only
Too bad I can't explain why I hate all the countries I hate
Well I also hate those countries which propagate the ideology of Edom and Ishmael... As others here have mentioned those offenders in Europe and Russia, and those offenders in the Arabian peninsula and the ex-empire of Persia...
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I agree Muman f**ck Rome long live the Judean revolt
(http://thejuma.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/rome-life-after-people-hq.jpg)
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Germany, Iran, Saudai Arabia, Venezuala,
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United Kingdom - They are responsible for the majority of the wars in the world, they ended up colonizing and drawing the lines in the continents they took over to exploit them, they are responsible for creating this "Palestine" problem we have today and for so many Jews dying because of stopping ships from being able to land in Israel. They also trained and supported the Arabs during World War II
Russia - Colonizers from Poland who stole land, they were responsible for some of the worst pogroms against Jews in history, forced conversions, exiles to eastern parts of the land, and currently polluting Israel with their crime. Everywhere they go they are hated. They also used foreign legions to torture Jews in Eastern Europe.
Spain - Insane colonizers who treated Jews like drek, Jews had to forcefully convert to catholicism and were still treated horribly, they were called Marranos which means pig by the Spanish. They also killed alot of people in South America and were responsible for creating much of the mess down there today.
Turkey - Foreign invaders who stole Anatolia from the Mediterranean people, they are not the original inhabitants but come from central asia, also treated the Jews horribly and created unity with the Arab tribes even though the Turks were not Arabs themselves.
Albania - Frauds who claim Illyrian descent, they have nothing to do with those people and they stole Kosovo from Serbia.
Algeria - Kicked all Jews out of their country in 1963 even though many Jews lived there for thousands of years and the world didn't say anything about it.
Nigeria - Damn 419 scams, go to hell schvartzas.
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United Kingdom - They are responsible for the majority of the wars in the world, they ended up colonizing and drawing the lines in the continents they took over to exploit them, they are responsible for creating this "Palestine" problem we have today and for so many Jews dying because of stopping ships from being able to land in Israel. They also trained and supported the Arabs during World War II
Russia - Colonizers from Poland who stole land, they were responsible for some of the worst pogroms against Jews in history, forced conversions, exiles to eastern parts of the land, and currently polluting Israel with their crime. Everywhere they go they are hated. They also used foreign legions to torture Jews in Eastern Europe.
Spain - Insane colonizers who treated Jews like drek, Jews had to forcefully convert to catholicism and were still treated horribly, they were called Marranos which means pig by the Spanish. They also killed alot of people in South America and were responsible for creating much of the mess down there today.
Turkey - Foreign invaders who stole Anatolia from the Mediterranean people, they are not the original inhabitants but come from central asia, also treated the Jews horribly and created unity with the Arab tribes even though the Turks were not Arabs themselves.
Albania - Frauds who claim Illyrian descent, they have nothing to do with those people and they stole Kosovo from Serbia.
Algeria - Kicked all Jews out of their country in 1963 even though many Jews lived there for thousands of years and the world didn't say anything about it.
Nigeria - Damn 419 scams, go to hell schvartzas.
What about Tamil Nadu? (Not a country, but it thinks of itself as one in its Dravidocentrist delusions.)
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The worst of all :
- Germany
- All the viciously anti-semitic countries of Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, Romania, ...)
- Croatia
- All Muslim countries
- Russia
To a lesser extent :
- Britain
Oh, and I forgot, of course : Serbia ! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: (just a JOKE, Dr. Brennan Fan !)
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How can anyone not put IRAN first??? For god sakes, they sponsor holocaust denial museums and say they will destroy Israel on a daily basis!!!
Historically, I would say Germany, Russia, and Spain are the big 3.
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Hmm, I'm a little more pragmatic, I am concerned about current threats.
1. Iran
2. Lebanon for being a Hezbollah stronghold
3. Syria
4. Saudi Arabia for being the center of the evil psychopathic death cult of Islam
5. Pakistan they're evil muslims, enemies of Israel and our ally India, and they are sheltering the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden.
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I hate India for housing the most number of muslims for any country and providing them a safe heaven. I hate India for allowing creation of Papistan and Bangladesh. I hate India for not doing anything for Kashmir which is now half occupied by Islamists and Chinese communists. Inspite of having Indian intellectuals around the world, and having developed advanced technologies without invading a single nations for thousands of years, India has not be able to become a geo-political power. Evils like Communism, Socialism, Islam, European Crusaders, British Colonaials and have turned the country into a mess which is fighting its own internal stuggle and not able to Identify its external enemies, since internal enemies are what threatens it the most.
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i think Jews should also hate present Israel, it is no where close to the torahnical Israel.. as far as my understanding goes. Get done with the arab agressors inside/out. And you will have a Glorious Empire which will Shine like a Sun, and burn down all its enemies.
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Saudi Arab, nazi Germany, Papistan666, Iran, Albania, Bosnia and all muslamic regions.
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I forgot in my list : Austria of course (this time, no joke) and, to a lesser extent, Switzerland (evil patronizing cowards).
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Iran and Venezuela (the Govts and their supporters. Not all the people).
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1. Liechtenstein: jealous because they are so small and everyone leaves them alone.
2. Andorra: same as #1
3. Monaco: nobody bothers them either
4. San Marino: I bet you nobody has ever heard of them.
5. Swaziland: because nobody ever picks on them. WTF?!
Oh but Israel needs to be the size of San Marino Gd forbid.
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In my spiritual studies about five years ago with a Chabad Rabbi which centered on prophecies which must be fulfilled prior to the coming of Moshiach, focus was directed at prophecies of the imminent war between Persia and the West.
I was informed that the prophecy stating the war would take place was written with ambiguous syntax, thus leaving both combatants qualified to emerge as winner.
The winner is not prophecied.
While "logic" would dictate that Persia be crushed for all of its evil threats and modern day Haman, my Rabbi explained that several Rabbinic Sages had declared that Iran/Persia actually had acquired more Heavenly merit with Ha'Shem than did the U.S.A.
I couldn't understand such a thing at first, but then I read the quotes, which based their reasoning on the fact that The First Temple had been ordered rebuilt in Jerusalem by the Persian King at the end of the Captivity, whereas the West today has done nothing but condemn Israel's sovereign claims to Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, Golan, and Sinai, and thus prevents The Third Temple from rising.
The Sages didn't state unequivocally that Persia would defeat the U.S. in the coming war, only that Persia's accumulated merit gives her 'the edge' over a West which demands half of Jerusalem be given to bloodthirsty murderers.
So ... Who who's going to win? ...
The rebuilder of the Jerusalem Temple?
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The nation which rejects Ha'Shem's Plan for The Final Redemption?
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In my spiritual studies about five years ago with a Chabad Rabbi which centered on prophecies which must be fulfilled prior to the coming of Moshiach, focus was directed at prophecies of the imminent war between Persia and the West.
I was informed that the prophecy stating the war would take place was written with ambiguous syntax, thus leaving both combatants qualified to emerge as winner.
The winner is not prophecied.
While "logic" would dictate that Persia be crushed for all of its evil threats and modern day Haman, my Rabbi explained that several Rabbinic Sages had declared that Iran/Persia actually had acquired more Heavenly merit with Ha'Shem than did the U.S.A.
I couldn't understand such a thing at first, but then I read the quotes, which based their reasoning on the fact that The First Temple had been ordered rebuilt in Jerusalem by the Persian King at the end of the Captivity, whereas the West today has done nothing but condemn Israel's sovereign claims to Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, Golan, and Sinai, and thus prevents The Third Temple from rising.
The Sages didn't state unequivocally that Persia would defeat the U.S. in the coming war, only that Persia's accumulated merit gives her 'the edge' over a West which demands half of Jerusalem be given to bloodthirsty murderers.
So ... Who who's going to win? ...
The rebuilder of the Jerusalem Temple?
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The nation which rejects Ha'Shem's Plan for The Final Redemption?
Absolutely fascinating.
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Yes it is true that Cyrus, the king of Persia allowed the Jews to rebuild the temple...
http://www.jewishmag.com/144mag/tamuz_av/tamuz_av.htm
Fifty years after the destruction of the first temple, the mighty Babylonia empire had lost it power and was succeeded by Persia. The King of Persia at that time, Cyrus, was sympathetic to the Jews and gave his permission for them to return to their land and to rebuilt the holy temple. More than forty thousand Jews, including the Levites and Priests, returned to Israel to rebuild the land and the temple. Cyrus gave back much of the treasures of the Temple that Nebuchadnezar had taken and he even provided the Jews with a military escort as they returned to the land of Israel. The joyous Jews were led by Zerubabel, a grandson of former Jewish king, Yehoyachin, and with him came Joshua, the High Priest.
The book of the prophet Ezra relates this story:
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16498/showrashi/true
But there seems to be a reason to believe that Persia may be involved in the war against Israel... Looking at the Ezekial Chapter 38 which reads: http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16136/showrashi/true
3. And you shall say; So said the Lord G-d: Behold, I am against you, Gog, the prince, the head of Meshech and Tubal.
4. And I shall unbridle you, and I shall put hooks into your jaws and bring you forth and all your army, horses and riders, all of them clothed in finery, a great assembly, with encompassing shield and buckler, all of them grasping swords.
5. Persia, Cush, and Put are with them; all of them with buckler and helmet.
6. Gomer and all its wings, the house of Togarmah, the utmost parts of the north and all its wings, many peoples with you.
7. Be prepared and make ready for yourself, you and all your assembly who are gathered about you, and you will be to them for a guardian.
http://www.ou.org/shabbat_shalom/article/parashat_balak_world_war_and_impossible_tasks/
The midrash explains that HaShem began the Torah with the story of creation in order to refute the future claim of the nations that the Jewish people illegally seized Eretz Yisrael. Therefore, the nations shall know that since HaShem is the Creator of all that exists, He has the right to give Eretz Yisrael to the Jewish nation at the expense of all others.
This midrash is problematic, because it leaves us suspended between heaven and earth. Indeed, we are informed that the nations will accuse us of imperialistic motives associated with evil regimes, and we will answer them with pesukim and Torah based principles; but we are not told how it will end.
Will the nations be convinced by our presentations? Will they cast our claims aside and mete out their idea of justice through war or other sanctions against us?
What comes next is cited in another midrash in Yalkut Shimoni at the end of sefer Yeshayahu (#499), which quotes a tana who states that, in time, Paras (Persia-Iran) will be the fear of the entire world. "Iran," says the rabbi, "will destroy the world."
The world leaders will "go back and forth" frustrated in their attempts to save what they can, but to no avail. And Am Yisrael will also be petrified by the pending disaster.
And HaShem will say to us, "Why are you afraid? All of this I have done in order to bring you the long-awaited redemption. This redemption will not be like the redemption from Egypt, which was followed by suffering; this redemption will usher in a world of peace."
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Re: "there seems to be a reason to believe that Persia may be involved in the war against Israel."
It is my understanding that prophecies flat out state that in the last days, a large army from the east which is to include Persia and other countries, is definitely going to surround and attempt an invasion of Israel from the north.
My understanding is also that this is a separate incident related to, but not identical to the first discussion.
Of course, the nice thing about discussing "metaphysics" and "prophecy" is that nobody actually knows what in the hell they're talking about, so we're all on solid ground!!
There does seem to be enough contemporary "anecdotal evidence" taking place right before our eyes and in the news these days to lend credence to these prophetic events.
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When these prophecies are written, I cannot help but believe that they had already taken place with the Mongols way back when.
But then again, history does repeat itself.
Re: "there seems to be a reason to believe that Persia may be involved in the war against Israel."
It is my understanding that prophecies flat out state that in the last days, a large army from the east which is to include Persia and other countries, is definitely going to surround and attempt an invasion of Israel from the north.
My understanding is also that this is a separate incident related to, but not identical to the first discussion.
Of course, the nice thing about discussing "metaphysics" and "prophecy" is that nobody actually knows what in the hell they're talking about, so we're all on solid ground!!
There does seem to be enough contemporary "anecdotal evidence" taking place right before our eyes and in the news these days to lend credence to these prophetic events.
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I forgot in my list : Austria of course (this time, no joke) and, to a lesser extent, Switzerland (evil patronizing cowards).
Why Switzerland?
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When these prophecies are written, I cannot help but believe that they had already taken place with the Mongols way back when.
But then again, history does repeat itself.
Re: "there seems to be a reason to believe that Persia may be involved in the war against Israel."
It is my understanding that prophecies flat out state that in the last days, a large army from the east which is to include Persia and other countries, is definitely going to surround and attempt an invasion of Israel from the north.
My understanding is also that this is a separate incident related to, but not identical to the first discussion.
Of course, the nice thing about discussing "metaphysics" and "prophecy" is that nobody actually knows what in the hell they're talking about, so we're all on solid ground!!
There does seem to be enough contemporary "anecdotal evidence" taking place right before our eyes and in the news these days to lend credence to these prophetic events.
Prophecy is telling what will happen in the future. Every war mentioned in the prophets is a foretelling of a war in the future. And we do believe that every struggle the Torah discusses will reflect on the future conflict for the Jewish people.