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Before you all say that I’m a troll or something hear me out. Maybe I’m wrong but this site is 100% anti everything except America, Israel and Judaism, which is good, because Israel is the best country in the world and Judaism is the most logically, normal and true religion out there. My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there. There are plenty of good blacks out there. Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world, but Islam at least believes in 1 G-d not like the Christians and Hindus. Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
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Hello Ralph. You've been gone for a while.
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
where are your sources that 99% of muslims are anti-Israel? i will agree with you that any religious muslim who is anti-Israel is a hipocret because the quran says "Israel belongs to the Jewish people", but those who are not religious. my mothers sideare Turkish-Jews, many of the Turks (muslims) are pro-Israel even though their president is anti
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
where are your sources that 99% of muslims are anti-Israel? i will agree with you that any religious muslim who is anti-Israel is a hipocret because the quran says "Israel belongs to the Jewish people", but those who are not religious. my mothers sideare Turkish-Jews, many of the Turks (muslims) are pro-Israel even though their president is anti
The Qur'an doesn't say that. Surat al Maccia that is not relavant according to Islamic theology does.
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One more thing you fail to point out is that Ramban a great Jewish Sage who lived 850 years ago once wrote that Islam is Idolitry.
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Islam is the enemy because it has declared war on the Jewish people. Ever since Mohamud began killing the Jews in Arabia it set itself as the enemy of the Jewish people. Most Islamic terrorism is against Jews and Jewish interests. We would be insane for not counting Islam as one of our biggest enemies. We want a Jewish state in our promised land and Islam wants to kill us all...
PS: You discuss the Unholy Koran and say it says that Israel is for the Jews... But current day Islam denies that we are Jews... That is the real problem, along with the accusation that we have somehow modified the Torah {which is hysterical since it says clearly in the Torah that not a letter can be changed}...
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One more thing you fail to point out is that Ramban a great Jewish Sage who lived 850 years ago once wrote that Islam is Idolitry.
for muslims its ok, its not idolitry
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Before you all say that I’m a troll or something hear me out. Maybe I’m wrong but this site is 100% anti everything except America, Israel and Judaism, which is good, because Israel is the best country in the world and Judaism is the most logically, normal and true religion out there.
That's because sane people care about their people and not abandon their pride and nation for the sake of internationalism like you do. I guess you were born in Israel and betrayed it for America.
My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there
A "good" Muslim is a Munfaik and is not a Muslim but a traitor to Islam. If this your respect for Muslims...
just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there.
Evil Jews are evil not because they're Jewish but because of other reasons, evil Muslims are evil because they're Muslim.
There are plenty of good blacks out there.
less than 5% of American Blacks. They're like that not because of skin color, but because of culture.
Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world, but Islam at least believes in 1 G-d not like the Christians and Hindus.
Not exactly.
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One more thing you fail to point out is that Ramban a great Jewish Sage who lived 850 years ago once wrote that Islam is Idolitry.
for muslims its ok, its not idolitry
No, Idolatry is Idolatry.... Just that Jews don't really care what non-Jews worship..
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Before you all say that I’m a troll or something hear me out. Maybe I’m wrong but this site is 100% anti everything except America, Israel and Judaism, which is good, because Israel is the best country in the world and Judaism is the most logically, normal and true religion out there. My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there. There are plenty of good blacks out there. Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world, but Islam at least believes in 1 G-d not like the Christians and Hindus. Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
If we're going to play this game, then we are not the only ones who need to bring sources. You need to bring sources to support the crap you say as well.
Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
Source that for me, big guy.
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Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
We don't care about "numbers". Number of death is not relavent to the level of evil, even one Jew killed by a nation makes it illegitimate for existence.
But for the record, they murdered Jews the same way and level.
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http://www.victimsofarabterror.com/
http://www.victimsofarabterror.com/facts.htm
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Islam is the enemy because it has declared war on the Jewish people. Ever since Mohamud began killing the Jews in Arabia it set itself as the enemy of the Jewish people. Most Islamic terrorism is against Jews and Jewish interests. We would be insane for not counting Islam as one of our biggest enemies. We want a Jewish state in our promised land and Islam wants to kill us all...
PS: You discuss the Unholy Koran and say it says that Israel is for the Jews... But current day Islam denies that we are Jews... That is the real problem, along with the accusation that we have somehow modified the Torah {which is hysterical since it says clearly in the Torah that not a letter can be changed}...
my brother i agree with you that Israel should only be a Jewish state, G-d willing when Moshiach comes, all of the Jewish enemies (Muslims, Christians, self-hating-liberal Jews) will be gone. both of my parents have ancestors from muslim countries, (not proud to say this) but i even have muslim relatives (not by blood, but by marriage) who are pro Israel and Judaism.
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Before you all say that I’m a troll or something hear me out. Maybe I’m wrong but this site is 100% anti everything except America, Israel and Judaism, which is good, because Israel is the best country in the world and Judaism is the most logically, normal and true religion out there. My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there. There are plenty of good blacks out there. Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world, but Islam at least believes in 1 G-d not like the Christians and Hindus. Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
If we're going to play this game, then we are not the only ones who need to bring sources. You need to bring sources to support the crap you say as well.
Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
Source that for me, big guy.
Spanish inquisition, pogroms and other horrors in Europe, and more recent the Holocaust.
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Islam is the enemy because it has declared war on the Jewish people. Ever since Mohamud began killing the Jews in Arabia it set itself as the enemy of the Jewish people. Most Islamic terrorism is against Jews and Jewish interests. We would be insane for not counting Islam as one of our biggest enemies. We want a Jewish state in our promised land and Islam wants to kill us all...
PS: You discuss the Unholy Koran and say it says that Israel is for the Jews... But current day Islam denies that we are Jews... That is the real problem, along with the accusation that we have somehow modified the Torah {which is hysterical since it says clearly in the Torah that not a letter can be changed}...
my brother i agree with you that Israel should only be a Jewish state, G-d willing when Moshiach comes, all of the Jewish enemies (Muslims, Christians, self-hating-liberal Jews) will be gone. both of my parents have ancestors from muslim countries, (not proud to say this) but i even have muslim relatives (not by blood, but by marriage) who are pro Israel and Judaism.
If this is true I hope that you are able to influence them to stay pro-Israel, pro-Jewish... I cannot imagine such a circumstance..
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One more thing you fail to point out is that Ramban a great Jewish Sage who lived 850 years ago once wrote that Islam is Idolitry.
for muslims its ok, its not idolitry
No, Idolatry is Idolatry.... Just that Jews don't really care what non-Jews worship..
the 7 laws of Noah. besides not to kill (for the muslim-terrorists) the rest muslims keep. they dont pray to jc, tehy dont have idols in their mosuq
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Islam is the enemy because it has declared war on the Jewish people. Ever since Mohamud began killing the Jews in Arabia it set itself as the enemy of the Jewish people. Most Islamic terrorism is against Jews and Jewish interests. We would be insane for not counting Islam as one of our biggest enemies. We want a Jewish state in our promised land and Islam wants to kill us all...
PS: You discuss the Unholy Koran and say it says that Israel is for the Jews... But current day Islam denies that we are Jews... That is the real problem, along with the accusation that we have somehow modified the Torah {which is hysterical since it says clearly in the Torah that not a letter can be changed}...
my brother i agree with you that Israel should only be a Jewish state, G-d willing when Moshiach comes, all of the Jewish enemies (Muslims, Christians, self-hating-liberal Jews) will be gone. both of my parents have ancestors from muslim countries, (not proud to say this) but i even have muslim relatives (not by blood, but by marriage) who are pro Israel and Judaism.
If this is true I hope that you are able to influence them to stay pro-Israel, pro-Jewish... I cannot imagine such a circumstance..
they dont go to mosqus, and they even send $ to yeshivas, Israel and other Jewish orgizations
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Before you all say that I’m a troll or something hear me out. Maybe I’m wrong but this site is 100% anti everything except America, Israel and Judaism, which is good, because Israel is the best country in the world and Judaism is the most logically, normal and true religion out there. My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there. There are plenty of good blacks out there. Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world, but Islam at least believes in 1 G-d not like the Christians and Hindus. Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
If we're going to play this game, then we are not the only ones who need to bring sources. You need to bring sources to support the crap you say as well.
Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
Source that for me, big guy.
Spanish inquisition, pogroms and other horrors in Europe, and more recent the Holocaust.
I don't understand. How is this a source? You just listed 2 events and a third series of events. That does not constitute a citation. My challenge remains.
Now that you mention the holocaust though, I was going to say that is an exception on multiple counts. 1. It is not so clear that that was carried out as a religious Christianity-motivated campaign like other things you mention, and
2. It's an exception because of the sheer numbers, and happened over a very short time period. It also reflected a unique period of political and technological power amassed into the European hands, that I'm sure if the muslims ever had, would have become just as drunk with power and bloodthirsty as the Europeans did in that era. But let's compare as a whole the time living with Christians and the time living with Muslims, this occurred over hundreds of years, and you will see that there were expulsions, pogroms, murders and forced conversions from all sides, in different periods all targeting Jews. I really don't see how you can say one was "better" to the Jews than the other ,when both exhibited this behavior off and on in many periods and many places.
And like Ron said, telling me that Muslims murdered 1000 but Christians murdered 1500 does not exonerate Muslims.
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Mizrahi4Life, I'm still waiting for an answer.
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Mizrahi4Life, I'm still waiting for an answer.
sice the death of jc, christains have made a war againist the Jewish people, since the Holocaust that hatred has decreased but it doesnt mean that the majority of christians are not anti-Semetic. in which 1 event did you have muslims killing thousands even millions of Jews. hitler, stalin, khmelnytsky (Yamech Shemo to all) killed thousands, millions all three man were of the christian faith.
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http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Jews.Islam
One reason Islam is evil because it is more anti-Semitic than Nazism/Mein Kampf.
This is about 1/3 of what Islam has to say about Jews; I would post the whole page but it exceeds the capacity of what a post on this forum can handle.
Qur'an 2:61 "Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah's wrath."
Qur'an 4:44 "Have you not considered those to whom a portion of the Book has been given? They traffic in error and desire that you should go astray. But Allah has full knowledge of your enemies. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, saying, 'We hear and we disobey' with a twist of their tongues they slander Faith.... Allah has cursed them for disbelief."
Qur'an 4:47 "O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed."
Qur'an 4:160 "For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah's Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men's wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom."
Qur'an 5:59 "Say: 'People of the Book! Do you disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that has come to us and that which came before?' Say: 'Shall I point out to you something much worse than this by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine."
Qur'an 2:64 "But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you."
Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."
Qur'an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."
Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."
Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."
Ishaq:254
Qur'an 2:96 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them."
Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"
Qur'an 88:1 "Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring."
Tabari VIII:116 "After his return from Hudaybiyah, Allah's Messenger marched against Khaybar. He halted with his army in a valley between the people of Khaybar and the Ghatafan tribe to prevent the latter from assisting the Jews."
Ishaq:264 "A notable Jew spoke to the Apostle, twisting his tongue. He attacked Islam and reviled it, so Allah sent down, 'Allah knows best about your enemies. Some of the Jews change words from their contexts and say: "We hear and disobey," twisting their tongues and attacking the religion so Allah cursed them.'"
Tabari VIII:121 "Ali struck the Jew with a swift blow that split his helmet, neck protector, and head, landing in his rear teeth. And the Muslims entered the city. Muhammad conquered the [Jewish] neighborhood. Safiyah was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal led them past some of the Jews we had slain including the woman's dead husband. When she saw them, the woman with Safiyah cried out, slapped her face, and poured dust on her head. When Allah's Prophet saw her, he said, 'Take this she-devil away from me!'"
Bukhari:V4B53N380 "Umar expelled all the Jews and Christians from Arabia. Allah's Apostle after conquering Khaybar thought of expelling the Jews from the land which, after he conquered it, belonged to Allah, Allah's Apostle and the Muslims. But the Jews requested Allah's Apostle to leave them there on the condition that they would do the labor and get half of the fruits (the land would yield). Allah's Apostle said, 'We shall keep you on these terms as long as we wish.' Thus they stayed till the time of Umar's Caliphate when he expelled them."
Tabari VIII:130 "The Messenger said during his final illness, 'Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.' Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: 'Allah has given permission for you to be expelled; for I have received word that the Prophet said that two religions cannot coexist in Arabia."
Ishaq:517 "Khaybar was stormed by the Apostle's squadron, fully armed, powerful, and strong. It brought certain humiliation with Muslim men in its midst. We attacked and they met their doom. Muhammad conquered the Jews in fighting that day as they opened their eyes to our dust."
Ishaq:524 "We cannot accept the oaths of Jews. Their infidelity is so great they swear falsely."
Qur'an 59:14 "They [Jews] will not fight against you save in fortified townships. Their hostility and hatred amongst themselves is strong: you would think they were united, but their hearts they are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense."
Ishaq:245 "Do you love Jews and their religion, you liver-hearted ass, and not Muhammad? Their religion will never march with ours.... Jews make false professions about Islam. So Allah sent down: 'Satan wishes to lead them astray."
Ishaq:248 "Allah increases their sickness. A tormented doom awaits the Jews. Allah said, 'They are mischief makers. They are fools. The Jews deny the truth and contradict what the Apostle has brought. I will mock them and let them continue to wander blindly.'"
Tabari VII:158 "The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir Jews for fifteen days. In the end they made peace with him on the condition that the Prophet would not shed their blood and that their property and possessions would be his."
Qur'an 5:13 "But because of their breach of their covenant We cursed the Jews, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places [the illiterate prophet pronounced] and forget and abandon a good part of the message that was sent them. Nor will you cease to find deceit in them. And because of their breaking their covenant We have cursed them. They altered words from their context and they neglected a portion of the message they were reminded of."
Qur'an 5:41 "Or it be among the Jews, men who will listen to any lie. They change the context of the words from their (right) times and places.... For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.""
Qur'an 5:42 "They are fond of listening to falsehood, of devouring anything forbidden; they are greedy for illicit gain!"
Qur'an 5:44 "It was We who revealed the Torah. By its standard the prophets judged the Jews, and the prophets bowed (in Islam) to Allah's will, surrendering. For the rabbis and priests: to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Scripture Book; they were witnesses of it. Therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My revelations for a miserable price."
Qur'an 5:64 "The Jews say: 'Allah's hands are fettered.' Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the blasphemy they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched, giving [Muslims Jewish booty] as He pleases. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Doom. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah does extinguish it. But they strive to do mischief on earth."
Qur'an 98:1 "Those among the People of the Book, who disbelieve and are idolaters, would never have been freed from their false religion if the Clear Proofs had not come to them. An Apostle of Allah came reading out of hallowed pages.... They were commanded to serve Allah exclusively, fulfilling their devotional obligations, and paying the zakat. Surely the unbelievers and idolaters from the People of the Book will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures."
Qur'an 5:78 "Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled."
Qur'an 5:80 "You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide."
Qur'an 5:81 "If only they had believed in Allah, in the Prophet, and in what had been revealed to him."
Qur'an 5:82 "You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims."
Ishaq:262 "Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse."
Qur'an 2:59 "We sent a plague upon the Jews from heaven, for their evil-doing."
Bukhari:V4B56N679 "Allah's Apostle said, 'Plague is a means of torture sent on the Israelis.'"
Bukhari:V2B23N457 "The Prophet went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice. He said, 'The Jews are being punished in their graves.'"
Qur'an 17:7 "We shall rouse Our (Muslim) slaves to shame and ravage you (Jews), disfiguring your faces. They will enter the Temple as before and destroy, laying to waste all that they conquer."
Bukhari:V1B4N147 "People say, 'Whenever you sit for answering the call of nature, you should not face the Qiblah of Jerusalem.' I told them. 'Once I went up the roof of our house and I saw Allah's Apostle answering the call of nature while sitting on two bricks facing Jerusalem."
Ishaq:239 "About this time Jewish rabbis showed hostility to the Apostle in envy, hatred, and malice, because Allah had chosen His Apostle from the Arabs. The Jews considered the Prophet a liar and strove against Islam."
Ishaq:239 "Jewish rabbis used to annoy the Apostle with questions, introducing confusion." "Qur'ans used to come down in reference to their questions."
Ishaq:240 "Labid bewitched Allah's Apostle so that he could not come at his wives. These Jewish rabbis opposed the apostle, they asked questions and stirred up trouble against Islam trying to extinguish it."
Ishaq:240 "I concealed the matter from the Jews and then went to the Apostle and said, 'The Jews are a nation of liars and I want you to give me a house and hide me from them. If they learn I've become a Muslim, they'll utter slanderous lies against me.' So the prophet gave me a house, and when the Jews came, I emerged and said, 'O Jews, fear Allah and accept what He has sent you. For you know that he is the Apostle of Allah. You will find him described in your Torah and even named.' They accused me of lying and reviled me. I told Muhammad, 'The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people.'"
Ishaq:241 "Mukhayriq was a learned rabbi owning much property in date palms. He recognized the Apostle by his description and felt a predilection for his religion. He violated the Sabbath to fight on behalf of Islam and was killed in battle. I am told the Prophet used to say, 'Mukhayriq is the best of the Jews [a dead one].' The Apostle took his property."
Ishaq:242 "Julas the Jew used to say, 'If Muhammad is right we are worse than donkeys.' Allah sent down concerning him: 'They swear that they did not say it, when they did say the words of unbelief.... Allah will afflict them with a painful punishment in this world and in the next.' [Qur'an 9:75] Ishaq:242 "The Apostle ordered Umar to kill him, but he escaped to Mecca."
Ishaq:246 "The surah of the Hypocrites came down because some men sent secret messages to the Nadir Jews when the Apostle besieged them.... Allah bears witness that they are liars. Like Satan when he says to men, "Disbelieve."' [59:11]
Qur'an 59:14 "They are a divided people devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so both of them will end up in Hell."
Qur'an 59:2 "It was He [Allah] who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their [Medina] homes and into exile. They refused to believe. You did not think that they would go away. And they imagined that their settlement would protect them against Allah. But Allah's [actually Muhammad's] (torment) came at them from where they did not suspect and terrorized them. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson O men who have eyes. This is My warning. Had Allah not decreed the expulsion of the Jews, banishing them into the desert, He would certainly have punished them in this world, and in the next they shall taste the torment of Hell Fire."
Ishaq:251 "Moses commanded them to prostrate themselves and his Lord spoke to him and they heard His voice giving them commands and prohibitions so that they understood what they heard. But when Moses went back to the Jews a party of them changed the Commandments they had been given." [2:75]
Ishaq:252 "Have you no understanding? Why do you maintain that he is not a prophet since you know that Allah has made a Covenant with you that you should follow him? While he tells you that he is the prophet whom you are expecting, and that you will find him in Our book, you oppose him and do not recognize him. You reject his prophethood on mere opinion."
Ishaq:253 "Allah cursed them for their unbelief. When a scripture comes to them from Allah confirming what they already have, they deny it. Allah's curse is on them."
Ishaq:254 "In the pagan era the Jews were scripture folk and we were pagans. They used to say, 'Soon a prophet will be sent whom we shall follow.' When Allah sent his Apostle from the Quraysh and we followed him they denied him. Allah revealed, 'When there comes to him one they recognize, they deny him. They are wretched, so Allah cursed them, and He will give them a shameful punishment.' The double anger is His wrath because they have disregarded the Torah and anger because they disbelieved in this Prophet whom Allah has sent to them." [2:89]
Ishaq:254 "Long for death [Jews], if you are truthful. Pray that God will kill whichever one of us is the most false. The Jews refused the Prophet's dare." "Allah said to His Prophet, 'They will never accept your dare because of their past deeds. But they recognize you from the knowledge they have. Yet they deny. Had they accepted your dare, not a single Jew would have remained alive on the earth." [2:94]
Ishaq:254 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. The Jew knows the shameful thing that awaits him in the next life because he has wasted the knowledge he has." [2:96]
Ishaq:255 "Jewish rabbis came to the Apostle and asked him to answer four questions saying, 'If you do so we will follow you, testify to your truth, and believe in you.' They began, 'Why does a boy resemble his mother when the semen comes from the father?' Muhammad replied, 'Do you not know that a man's semen is white and thick and a woman's is yellow and thin? The likeness goes with that which comes to the top.' 'Agreed,' the rabbis proclaimed.... The rabbis said. 'But Muhammad, your spirit is an enemy to us, an angel who comes only with violence and the shedding of blood, and were it not for that we would follow you."
Ishaq:255 "So Allah sent down concerning them: 'When the Apostle comes to them from Allah confirming that which they have received in scripture, they put it behind their backs as if they did not know it. They follow that which Satan read concerning the kingdom of Solomon - sorcery.' One of the rabbis said, 'Don't you wonder at Muhammad? He alleges that Solomon was a prophet, and yet he was nothing but a sorcerer.' So Allah sent down, 'Solomon did not disbelieve but Satan did, practicing sorcery.'" [2:101]
Ishaq:256 "The Apostle wrote a letter to the Jews of Khaybar [before he annihilated them]. In the name of Allah, from Muhammad the Apostle of Allah, friend and brother of Moses who confirms what Moses brought [the Torah]. Allah says to you, 'O Scripture folk, and you will find it in your scripture "Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those with him are severe against the unbelievers. You see them bowing, falling prostrate, seeking bounty, and acceptance. The mark of their prostrations is on their foreheads." That is their likeness in the Torah and in the Gospels.'"
Ishaq:256 "The Jews used to ask Muhammad questions which annoyed and confused him." Ishaq:257 "Your situation seems obscure to us, Muhammad."
Ishaq:257 "'O Jews, fear Allah and submit, for you used to hope for the Messiah's help against the Arabs when we were pagans. You told us that he would be sent and then told us about him.' A Jew responded, 'Muhammad has not shown us anything we recognize as prophetic. He is not the one we spoke to you about.' So Allah revealed, 'We confirmed what they had, and We sent one they recognized, but they rejected him so We are cursing them.' The Jews replied, 'No Covenant was ever made with us about Muhammad.'" "'Muhammad, you have not brought anything we recognize. And God has not sent down any sign or miracle suggesting that we should believe you.' So Allah said, 'We have sent down to you plain signs and only evildoers disbelieve them.'"
Ishaq:257 "The Jews told Allah's Messenger, 'Bring us a book. Bring us something down from heaven that we might read it.'"
Ishaq:258 "The Jews used to turn men away from Islam. So Allah said, 'Many Scripture folk wish to make you unbelievers after you have believed. They are envious. Be indulgent until Allah gives you his orders [to rob them, rape them, sell them into slavery, and murder them.]"
Ishaq:262 "Some Muslims remained friends with Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse." "You believe in their Book [though you don't have a clue what it says] while they deny your book, so you have more right to hate them than they have to hate you."
Ishaq:263 "Abu Bakr went into a Jewish school [there is no mention of him ever going into a Muslim school] and found many pupils gathered around Finhas, a learned rabbi. Bakr told the Jews to fear Allah and submit. He told them that they would find that Muhammad was an Apostle written in the Torah and Gospels. Finhas replied, 'Why does your god ask us to lend him money as your master pretends.' Abu was enraged and hit Finhas hard in the face [for telling the truth]. Were it not for the treaty between us I would cut off your head, you enemy of Allah. So Allah said, 'They will taste Our punishment of burning.'"
Ishaq:264 "Allah revealed concerning Finhas and the other rabbis: 'Allah issued orders to those who had received the Book: 'You are to make it clear to men and not conceal it, yet they cast the Torah behind their backs and sold it for a small price. Wretched was their exchange. They will therefore receive a painful punishment.'"
Ishaq:264 "The Torah confirms what Muhammad brought. Rifa'a, a notable Jew, spoke to the Apostle, twisting his tongue: 'Give us your attention, Muhammad, so that we can make you understand.' Then he attacked Islam and reviled it. So Allah sent down, 'Allah knows about your enemies. Some Jews change words from their contexts and say: "We hear and disobey," twisting their tongues and attacking the religion. But Allah cursed them.'" [2:59 & 4:47]
Ishaq:264 "The Jewish rabbis knew that Muhammad had brought them the truth, but they denied that they knew it. They were obstinate. So Allah revealed, 'People of the Book, believe in what we have sent down in confirmation of what you had been given before or We will efface your features and turn your face into your ass, cursing you.'"
Ishaq:269 "'Tell us when the Day of Doom will be, Muhammad, if you are a prophet as you say.' So Allah sent down, 'They will ask you about the hour when it will come to pass. Say, only my Lord knows of it. None but He will reveal it at its proper time. Say, 'Only Allah knows about it but most men do not know.' How can we follow you, Muhammad, when you have abandoned our Qiblah? And you do not allege that Uzayr [who knows?] is the son of God.' So Allah revealed, 'The Jews say that Uzayr is the son of God [no they don't] and the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. That is what they say with their mouths, copying the speech of those who disbelieved in the earlier times. Allah fight them! How perverse are they?'"
Ishaq:269 "'For our part we don't see how your Qur'an recitals are arranged anything like our Torah is.' [So Muhammad who couldn't read said,] 'You know quite well that the Qur'an is from Allah. You will find it written in the Torah which you have.'"
Ishaq:269 "'If men and jinn [demons] came together to produce its like they could not.' Finhas said, 'Did men or jinn tell you this, Muhammad?' 'You know full well that the Qur'an is from Allah and that I am the Apostle of Allah. You will find it written in the Torah you have.' The rabbi replied, 'When God sends a prophet, He provides for him, so bring us a book that is divinely inspired that we may read it and determine if you are telling the truth. We can produce our Book.' So Allah revealed, concerning their words, 'Though men and jinn should meet to produce this Qur'an, they would not produce its like, even working together.'"
Qur'an 2:40 "O Children of Israel, remember the favors I bestowed on you. So keep My Covenant so that I fulfil your covenant. Fear Me. And believe in what I sent down, confirming and verifying the Scripture which you possess already."
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This thread is from Ralph, from his opening intro the pathetic loser says, "My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims, there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there."
Who are you to say there are plenty of evil Jews, and plenty of good Muslims.
Ralph- go guzzle gasoline, do the world a favor. Too bad your mother didn't terminate her rat at birth.
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The Jewish virtual library quotes Princeton Historian Bernard Lewis as having written, "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."
They also write:
"When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power."
And:
"Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#c
I have cited some sources. What have you cited except wishful thinking?
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Something isn't quite right with this guy
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there are plenty of good Muslims out there just like how their plenty of evil Jews out there. There are plenty of good blacks out there.
:::D :laugh:
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Thanks Rubystars, I see you caught that, too! :laugh:
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WHY cant people just JOIN and thats it? Why cant you just join, Mizrahi and thats it?
WHY do these people do this?
They have NO heart.
All we go through here and online is non-stop 24/7 Jew hatred.
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WHY cant people just JOIN and thats it? Why cant you just join, Mizrahi and thats it?
WHY do these people do this?
They have NO heart.
All we go through here and online is non-stop 24/7 Jew hatred.
Ashe Dina-- Mostly, the whole world hates the Jews, even in computer land. That's the truth.
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WHY cant people just JOIN and thats it? Why cant you just join, Mizrahi and thats it?
WHY do these people do this?
They have NO heart.
All we go through here and online is non-stop 24/7 Jew hatred.
Ashe Dina-- Mostly, the whole world hates the Jews, even in computer land. That's the truth.
yeah, I know, so why put us through more misery coming to OUR HOUSE just to make us feel like drek
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WHY cant people just JOIN and thats it? Why cant you just join, Mizrahi and thats it?
WHY do these people do this?
They have NO heart.
All we go through here and online is non-stop 24/7 Jew hatred.
Ashe Dina-- Mostly, the whole world hates the Jews, even in computer land. That's the truth.
They're bitter people, they don't like their life, so they take out their hostility on the Jewish people. But whatever, I don't care about them or their reasons. They can drop dead.
yeah, I know, so why put us through more misery coming to OUR HOUSE just to make us feel like drek
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We are anti-evil, and whoever is evil, we are against. Regardless of which Muslim does or doesn't want to kill Jews, it's IMPOSSIBLE to know, and one must do whatever is necessary to protect his fellow Jew. If I have a button to press and I know that it'll end terrorism for good because it'll kill the "good" and evil Muslims, I won't hesitate for one second, because this is war, and in war you do NOT sacrifice yourself, your friends, your family, your land, or your people to save the enemy, even if there's a doubt about their true intentions. If you want to wipe out your entire family and everyone you love to save a bunch of Arabs in Gaza and Ramallah etc. based on the idea that most of them are good even though a few of them are bad, then go ahead, but I value the Torah too much to let them hide behind their "innocent civilian" citizens.
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Right now, all over the world, there's mayhem, bombings, beheadings, stonings, evil intentions towards Israel and Israeli's, blood libels, murders, etc. etc. Who is causing all of this and what religion provokes them to do it?
So now I'm told that the majority of Muslims are peaceful. That, to me, is totally irrelevant. I hate mosquitos. But the majority of mosquitos don't bite me. So because the majority of mosquitos don't bite me, I'm supposed to say that all mosquitos are, therefore, good? The majority doesn't bite me because they can't bite me. But mosquitos are detrimental to me just the same.
Throughout history, Jews have learned that Muslims are their enemy. And it never mattered what percentage of Muslims were "good".
Did it matter how many Germans were "good" Germans?
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whats up with some of you, saying stuff that my mother should have exterminated me? if you check my i.p address it doesnt match that of "ralph", i'm a Sephardic/Mizrahi orthodox Jew, i just had some questions for you guys. you dont have to go so extreme on me.
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I say that he should be given the benefit of the doubt... Sure it is radical to posit that Islam is peaceful on JTF... Maybe the poster doesn't really know how evil Islam is. We should not assume that he is a troll just because his name happens to contain 'Mizrahi' as that is the Jewish term for a Jew from 'the east'.
Let us explain to him the reason we feel so much anger at Islam. My beef with Islam is that I am a victim of 9/11 because my brother was killed in the World Trade Center on that day. After that event I became a Baal-Teshuva and now I have sworn Islam is my enemy and I will do anything I can to stop Islam, the building of the Mosque at Ground Zero, and anything I can do against Islam on the internet...
I will not sleep securely until Islam is nullified...
Mizrahi Jews or Mizrahim, (Hebrew: מזרחים, Modern Mizraḥim Tiberian Mizrāḥîm ; "Easterners"), also referred to as Edot HaMizrach (Communities of the East) are Jews descended from the Jewish communities of the Middle East, North Africa and the Caucasus. The term Mizrahi is used in Israel in the language of politics, media and some social scientists for Jews from the Arab world and adjacent, primarily Muslim-majority countries. This includes Iraqi Jews, Syrian Jews, Lebanese Jews, Yemenite Jews, Persian Jews, Afghan Jews, Bukharian Jews, Maghrebim Jews, Moroccan Jews, Tunisian Jews , Algerian Jews , Kurdish Jews, Mountain Jews, Georgian Jews and Ethiopian Jews. It would also include the Jews of India, Jews of Pakistan, and Baghdadi Jews who settled in the last few centuries (in contrast to Jewish communities of the Indian subcontinent established millennia earlier).
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My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims?
You ask the question above.... and then state the following:
Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world.
With this statement, as far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person would say that you answered your own question. No?
Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
Who wants to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth TODAY?.... Christians or Muslims?
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, it was atheists who killed more Jews than anyone. So should I therefore love Muslims because they're killing Jews at a lower rate?
I mean, this is ridiculous.
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I say that he should be given the benefit of the doubt... Sure it is radical to posit that Islam is peaceful on JTF... Maybe the poster doesn't really know how evil Islam is. We should not assume that he is a troll just because his name happens to contain 'Mizrahi' as that is the Jewish term for a Jew from 'the east'.
Let us explain to him the reason we feel so much anger at Islam. My beef with Islam is that I am a victim of 9/11 because my brother was killed in the World Trade Center on that day. After that event I became a Baal-Teshuva and now I have sworn Islam is my enemy and I will do anything I can to stop Islam, the building of the Mosque at Ground Zero, and anything I can do against Islam on the internet...
I will not sleep securely until Islam is nullified...
Mizrahi Jews or Mizrahim, (Hebrew: מזרחים, Modern Mizraḥim Tiberian Mizrāḥîm ; "Easterners"), also referred to as Edot HaMizrach (Communities of the East) are Jews descended from the Jewish communities of the Middle East, North Africa and the Caucasus. The term Mizrahi is used in Israel in the language of politics, media and some social scientists for Jews from the Arab world and adjacent, primarily Muslim-majority countries. This includes Iraqi Jews, Syrian Jews, Lebanese Jews, Yemenite Jews, Persian Jews, Afghan Jews, Bukharian Jews, Maghrebim Jews, Moroccan Jews, Tunisian Jews , Algerian Jews , Kurdish Jews, Mountain Jews, Georgian Jews and Ethiopian Jews. It would also include the Jews of India, Jews of Pakistan, and Baghdadi Jews who settled in the last few centuries (in contrast to Jewish communities of the Indian subcontinent established millennia earlier).
Mizrahi is my background, its liek someone who is of Ashkenazi or Sephardic background. i hate the radical muslims who are waging wars and killing our innocent brothers and sisters. but i do believe that there are "some" muslims who are peaceful
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My question is why is this site so anti-Muslims?
You ask the question above.... and then state the following:
Islam is responsible for most of the terrorist problems in the world.
With this statement, as far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person would say that you answered your own question. No?
Throughout history Muslims have been killing Jews but not as much as the Christians been killing Jews.
Who wants to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth TODAY?.... Christians or Muslims?
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, it was atheists who killed more Jews than anyone. So should I therefore love Muslims because they're killing Jews at a lower rate?
I mean, this is ridiculous.
your right that arabs/iranians want Israel wiped of the earth, but all i'm saying that there are muslims who support Israel. for the past 2,000 years have we (Jewish people) seen horrors from the christians?
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So you're just going to ignore my post and ignore historical facts you don't like?
Time for you to debate the issue or drop it. If you are really sincere, you'll be open to the facts and not hide from the discussion, cherrypick tangent issues with certain people while ignoring comments of substance from others as you push some agenda. If you're just here to stir up trouble, you ought to just come out with your slurs now and get it over with already and stop wasting our time. We've had many trolls like you. (may have even been you). Now read:
The Jewish virtual library quotes Princeton Historian Bernard Lewis as having written, "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."
They also write:
"When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power."
And:
"Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#c
I have cited some sources. What have you cited except wishful thinking?
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Ralph is boring
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...for the past 2,000 years have we (Jewish people) seen horrors from the christians?
Yes, we have.
And, yes, not every single Muslim is evil; however, their religion is totally antithetical to Jews. And, now, at this time in history, millions upon millions upon millions of them are a threat to Jews, to Israel and to our way of life in general. And I haven't even mentioned the brainwashing of their children against Jews and against Israel.
Why are you carrying this brief for Muslims? I would imagine that, like me, it makes all of us here very suspicious of you.
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So you're just going to ignore my post and ignore historical facts you don't like?
Time for you to debate the issue or drop it. If you are really sincere, you'll be open to the facts and not hide from the discussion, cherrypick tangent issues with certain people while ignoring comments of substance from others as you push some agenda. If you're just here to stir up trouble, you ought to just come out with your slurs now and get it over with already and stop wasting our time. We've had many trolls like you. (may have even been you). Now read:
The Jewish virtual library quotes Princeton Historian Bernard Lewis as having written, "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."
They also write:
"When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power."
And:
"Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#c
I have cited some sources. What have you cited except wishful thinking?
i know that Jews have suffered under the muslims, my family suffereed from the muslims, just as how Jews suffered under the christians, all i say is that there are good muslims and good christians, even if the majority of them are againist Jews and israel
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...for the past 2,000 years have we (Jewish people) seen horrors from the christians?
Yes, we have.
And, yes, not every single Muslim is evil; however, their religion is totally antithetical to Jews. And, now, at this time in history, millions upon millions upon millions of them are a threat to Jews, to Israel and to our way of life in general. And I haven't even mentioned the brainwashing of their children against Jews and against Israel.
Why are you carrying this brief for Muslims? I would imagine that, like me, it makes all of us here very suspicious of you.
thank G-d i'm not a muslim, i think islam is a man-made religion just as any other religion except Judaism, and yes islam is a death-cult. i never said pro islam or pro-muslim statements on this forum. all i said that there are good muslims
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
where are your sources that 99% of muslims are anti-Israel? i will agree with you that any religious muslim who is anti-Israel is a hipocret because the quran says "Israel belongs to the Jewish people", but those who are not religious. my mothers sideare Turkish-Jews, many of the Turks (muslims) are pro-Israel even though their president is anti
I think you have no idea about todays Turkey. On which planet do you live?
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So you're just going to ignore my post and ignore historical facts you don't like?
Time for you to debate the issue or drop it. If you are really sincere, you'll be open to the facts and not hide from the discussion, cherrypick tangent issues with certain people while ignoring comments of substance from others as you push some agenda. If you're just here to stir up trouble, you ought to just come out with your slurs now and get it over with already and stop wasting our time. We've had many trolls like you. (may have even been you). Now read:
The Jewish virtual library quotes Princeton Historian Bernard Lewis as having written, "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."
They also write:
"When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power."
And:
"Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#c
I have cited some sources. What have you cited except wishful thinking?
i know that Jews have suffered under the muslims, my family suffereed from the muslims, just as how Jews suffered under the christians, all i say is that there are good muslims and good christians, even if the majority of them are againist Jews and israel
Your statement is illogical. If the majority are against Jews and Israel then the majority are evil. Period. No matter what so-called religion or what so-called race/culture such people adhere to.
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
where are your sources that 99% of muslims are anti-Israel? i will agree with you that any religious muslim who is anti-Israel is a hipocret because the quran says "Israel belongs to the Jewish people", but those who are not religious. my mothers sideare Turkish-Jews, many of the Turks (muslims) are pro-Israel even though their president is anti
I think you have no idea about todays Turkey. On which planet do you live?
have you been to Turkey? do you know of any Turkish people?
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I think you have no idea about todays Turkey. On which planet do you live?
From The Institute for Jewish Global Affairs:
http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=3048&TTL=Present-Day_Anti-Semitism_in_Turkey
•Turkish intellectuals have always taken a pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli stance. Islamists associate the "Palestine question" with alleged Jewish involvement in the rise of Turkish secularism. Leftists see Israel as an imperialist state and an extension of American hegemony in the Middle East. Comparable themes are found among nationalist intellectuals.
•Turkish reactions to Israel's 2006 war in Lebanon and 2009 war in Gaza often spilled over into anti-Semitism. Newspaper columnists, some of them academics, belonging to the various ideological streams helped fan popular sentiment against Israel and Jews. Israel was said to be exploiting Holocaust guilt and the services of the "American Jewish lobby" to further its own nefarious aims.
•Turkish approaches to the "Palestine question" rarely venture outside the clichés of Turkish popular culture. Turkish publishing houses providing translated works on the issue are careful not to run afoul of popular sentiment. The net result is that both Turkish columnists and their readers utilize only limited sources on the conflict that are preponderantly anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic.
•Any attempt by the Turkish Jewish leadership to confront Turkish society on combating anti-Semitism is likely to backfire and even further exacerbate the problem. Given the reality, the only options left for Turkey's Jewish community are to either continue living in Turkey amid widespread anti-Semitism or to emigrate.
Turkey is hardly the place for a Jew to live in safety -- either physically or mentally.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
Yes. And he probably was taught to love everyone, even people who would wipe you off the face of the earth. He's also very, very, VERY naive.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
whats wrong with you? i'm a self hating Jew? I'm a Mizrahi Jew and proud of it. why should i be jealous? i sat in prison for beating up arabs and anti-semites
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I say that he should be given the benefit of the doubt... Sure it is radical to posit that Islam is peaceful on JTF... Maybe the poster doesn't really know how evil Islam is. We should not assume that he is a troll just because his name happens to contain 'Mizrahi' as that is the Jewish term for a Jew from 'the east'.
Let us explain to him the reason we feel so much anger at Islam. My beef with Islam is that I am a victim of 9/11 because my brother was killed in the World Trade Center on that day. After that event I became a Baal-Teshuva and now I have sworn Islam is my enemy and I will do anything I can to stop Islam, the building of the Mosque at Ground Zero, and anything I can do against Islam on the internet...
I will not sleep securely until Islam is nullified...
Mizrahi Jews or Mizrahim, (Hebrew: מזרחים, Modern Mizraḥim Tiberian Mizrāḥîm ; "Easterners"), also referred to as Edot HaMizrach (Communities of the East) are Jews descended from the Jewish communities of the Middle East, North Africa and the Caucasus. The term Mizrahi is used in Israel in the language of politics, media and some social scientists for Jews from the Arab world and adjacent, primarily Muslim-majority countries. This includes Iraqi Jews, Syrian Jews, Lebanese Jews, Yemenite Jews, Persian Jews, Afghan Jews, Bukharian Jews, Maghrebim Jews, Moroccan Jews, Tunisian Jews , Algerian Jews , Kurdish Jews, Mountain Jews, Georgian Jews and Ethiopian Jews. It would also include the Jews of India, Jews of Pakistan, and Baghdadi Jews who settled in the last few centuries (in contrast to Jewish communities of the Indian subcontinent established millennia earlier).
Mizrahi is my background, its liek someone who is of Ashkenazi or Sephardic background. i hate the radical muslims who are waging wars and killing our innocent brothers and sisters. but i do believe that there are "some" muslims who are peaceful
Ralph, who are these "peaceful" Muslims you speak of?
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
Yes. And he probably was taught to love everyone, even people who would wipe you off the face of the earth. He's also very, very, VERY naive.
the Torah says to love all. i dont love the terrorists/gays/athesists?liberal Jews
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the Torah says to love all.
No it doesn't.
Can you provide us the quote? LOL.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
Yes. And he probably was taught to love everyone, even people who would wipe you off the face of the earth. He's also very, very, VERY naive.
I remember this guy. His name was Ben M. He used to defend the Nazis. He defends the Nazis because they murdered the light skinned Jews. The light skinned Jews are the object of his hatred and jealosy.
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Well for one thing, 99% of Muslims are anti-Israel. They appear to view acts of terror against Israeli Jews as a "legitimate response to occupation." In fact there was one Muslim man from Pakistan who expressed pro-Israel sentiments, who got thrown in jail.
As for black people, there are indeed some righteous people among them, such as Pastor Manning, with whom Chaim is working. But our objection is to the dominant black culture which consists of devaluing education, massive illegitimacy, promiscuity, men abandoning their wives and children, crime, rap, and affirmative action.
where are your sources that 99% of muslims are anti-Israel? i will agree with you that any religious muslim who is anti-Israel is a hipocret because the quran says "Israel belongs to the Jewish people", but those who are not religious. my mothers sideare Turkish-Jews, many of the Turks (muslims) are pro-Israel even though their president is anti
I think you have no idea about todays Turkey. On which planet do you live?
have you been to Turkey? do you know of any Turkish people?
I knew lots of Turks personally. In fact in my high school were dozens. In business I meet Turks.
No I have never been to Turkey and I will never.
Under the secular authority of Atatürk and his followers there existed a decent Turkish culture, but the times have changed till the people of Turkey turned back to Islam.
The AKP has today the absulte majority of seats in the Turkish parliament. From it's ranks are coming the President and the prime ministre.
The "valley of the wolves" is mainstream tv there. Honestly I have nothing against Turks in general, but Muslim Turks are a danger like all other Muslims.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
Yes. And he probably was taught to love everyone, even people who would wipe you off the face of the earth. He's also very, very, VERY naive.
I remember this guy. His name was Ben M. He used to defend the Nazis. He defends the Nazis because they murdered the light skinned Jews. The light skinned Jews are the object of his hatred and jealosy.
Mizrahi Forever is Ben M. He actually hates being Mizrahi Forever, he wants to be Ashkenazi Forever (the light skinned Jew) . He's a fool.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
Yes. And he probably was taught to love everyone, even people who would wipe you off the face of the earth. He's also very, very, VERY naive.
I remember this guy. His name was Ben M. He used to defend the Nazis. He defends the Nazis because they murdered the light skinned Jews. The light skinned Jews are the object of his hatred and jealosy.
Mizrahi Forever is Ben M. He actually hates being Mizrahi Forever, he wants to be Ashkenazi Forever (the light skinned Jew) . He's a fool.
The name "Mizrahi Forever" is deception, he is not proud of his Mizrahi background, he despises it.
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This guy is a self hating Jew. He is probably dark skinned as he is Mizrahi. He despises being dark skinned, and has a huge inferirority complex. He hates himself, and also despises and is jealous of light skinned or pale Jews. He is a confused, angry and bitter boy. It's a shame.
whats wrong with you? i'm a self hating Jew? I'm a Mizrahi Jew and proud of it. why should i be jealous? i sat in prison for beating up arabs and anti-semites
I don't believe you for a second. I don't think anyone here does. That's why you were banned as Ben M
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You defend the Nazis as Ben M, before you were banned! Sick Pup
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You guys, Mizrahi is not Ben M. I also don't believe he's a troll. So can we please give him the benefit of the doubt for now?
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all i say is that there are good muslims and good christians, even if the majority of them are againist Jews and israel
There are a few, not many, decent people who call themselves "Muslims" but actually they are not true Muslims, because they do not do what Islam commands them to do.
Islam is evil, ditto. There is no question that the Kuran and the Haddiths are filled with hate, intolerance, perversity, and incitement to murder. You will convince no-one on this forum if you have any respect for that evil cult which is called Islam.
Besides, if the "good" Muslims you are talking about were really decent people, they would not be "against Jews and Israel" : can't you see the blatant contradiction between being a decent person and being anti-semitic ?
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In summation, he would sacrifice his life and the lives of his family and friends to ensure the lives of Arabs continue. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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I never assumed he was ben, nor do I think that's likely or plausible, however given the gutter scum that has shown up to the forum lately and the clear pattern in which they post before going on nazi-rants here, Mizrahi did not start off on the right foot by beginning with his pro-muslim complaint. That said, it's no reason to run away from the forum. If he's not a troll let him prove it.