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Title: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: jdl4ever on May 19, 2007, 11:32:23 PM
For the past 8 years I never ate any breakfast.  I just eat lunch and dinner and eat whatever I want, including hight carb and fatty foods.  I never gained any weight this way.  I think it's healthy to skip breakfast since I think it prevents diabetes and lets you eat whatever you want.  Who likes my idea? 
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Israel on May 20, 2007, 12:48:48 AM
I like it.

But it doesnt work for me.  ;)
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 20, 2007, 07:41:30 AM
Breakfast is scientifically proven to be the most important meal of the day.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on May 20, 2007, 09:43:40 AM
Breakfast is scientifically proven to be the most important meal of the day.

Nic is quite right, it gives you a boost to the day and eating in the morning doesn't keep on  the calories but eating at night does.

It also depends what you do everyday. At school, you'd concentrate more if you eat breakfast especially if you have fruit.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 20, 2007, 09:49:03 AM
Yes. I agree. Fruit is a fantastic and healthy breakfast.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: ftf on May 20, 2007, 10:15:04 AM
The perfect breakfast is a nice bowl of cereal.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 20, 2007, 10:17:33 AM
The perfect breakfast is a nice bowl of cereal.

It depends what type of cereal. If it is mass-produced chocolate flavour cereal, then it is very bad. Musli or cornflakes are very good though. In addition to a glass of fresh orange juice and a piece of fruit, there is no better breakfast.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on May 20, 2007, 10:24:52 AM
I never enjoy waking up when i know breakfast is going to be boring.  :)
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 20, 2007, 04:38:49 PM
I never enjoy waking up when i know breakfast is going to be boring.  :)


Sarah, are you going to make your point or are you just going to stab at what I said?
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: ftf on May 20, 2007, 05:08:41 PM
She's just saying that she likes to have an interesting breakfast.

My breakfast is never interesting, I've been eating exactly the same cereal for breakfast for the last couple of years every single day, with the same drink.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on May 21, 2007, 12:27:37 PM
I never enjoy waking up when i know breakfast is going to be boring.  :)


Sarah, are you going to make your point or are you just going to stab at what I said?

Oh i thought i was making a personal point. If i know theres nothing to eat in the house except stale bread and herbs then i don't bother waking up until the last minute.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: MasterWolf1 on May 21, 2007, 06:52:43 PM
The perfect breakfast that gives you enough energy till around 1 p.m. to start off your morning is the following.  Grained cereal such as Cheerios, with 2% milk and sliced banana or strawberries, egg whites only, and a glass of juice (orange, grapefruit or tomato).
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 21, 2007, 07:13:51 PM
The perfect breakfast that gives you enough energy till around 1 p.m. to start off your morning is the following.  Grained cereal such as Cheerios, with 2% milk and sliced banana or strawberries, egg whites only, and a glass of juice (orange, grapefruit or tomato).

Sounds excellent.

Yacov, not eating breakfast is very very unhealthy.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Bodhi on May 30, 2007, 05:01:07 PM
If you aren't hungry that's great...skipping one meal a day, any meal would probably be beneficial to almost everyone.......except Chaim......someone should make him a sandwich before a strong wind comes along ;D  I wish I had such problems.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on June 09, 2007, 02:53:36 PM
In the summer, eating deems too much effort.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: MasterWolf1 on June 09, 2007, 08:32:11 PM
The problem is especially in the States that they make the dinner meals the big meals.  I normally have my evening meal the smallest.  I eat 3 times a day and lunch being the big meal so you have a good amount of the day being active to burn it off. When people eat heavy meals at night they aren't as active as say mid day.  So it all goes to the thighs, belly and butt. 
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Allen-T on June 10, 2007, 07:44:09 AM
My favorite breakfast when I lived in Europe was one healthy scoop of Jitrnice[a oatmeal like stuff made from ground pork with garlic and seasoning], one scoop Jelitka[like Jitrnice but with different seasonings,barley and blood], some fresh dark rye bread, mustard,horseradish,pickles and 2 beers. Breakfast of champions!!! And all for about $2!!! Can't find it here,though.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: ftf on June 10, 2007, 08:20:11 AM
Sorry Allen-T, but that sounds utterly disgusting to me.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: cjd on June 10, 2007, 08:36:32 AM
My favorite breakfast when I lived in Europe was one healthy scoop of Jitrnice[a oatmeal like stuff made from ground pork with garlic and seasoning], one scoop Jelitka[like Jitrnice but with different seasonings,barley and blood], some fresh dark rye bread, mustard,horseradish,pickles and 2 beers. Breakfast of champions!!! And all for about $2!!! Can't find it here,though.

I can see why it comes with the 2 beers it sounds spicy!
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on June 10, 2007, 08:44:53 AM
Allen-t with blood!?

Masterwolf i've seen the portion sizes in America and they are nearly double that of here!
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: cjd on June 10, 2007, 09:00:19 AM
My favorite breakfast when I lived in Europe was one healthy scoop of Jitrnice[a oatmeal like stuff made from ground pork with garlic and seasoning], one scoop Jelitka[like Jitrnice but with different seasonings,barley and blood], some fresh dark rye bread, mustard,horseradish,pickles and 2 beers. Breakfast of champions!!! And all for about $2!!! Can't find it here,though.

I can see why it comes with the 2 beers it sounds spicy!
Allen-T, It seems like they make sausges out of that stuff. It made from the head of a pig.
http://www.recipe4all.com/recipe/Liver-Sausage-Jitrnice-Czech-5696/

http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=152124

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Liver%20sausage%20(jitrnice)--czech

The last one has a link to a place in Brooklyn that sells the sausage.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: MasterWolf1 on June 10, 2007, 10:10:35 PM
You should see people going to coffee shops what kind of a breakfast they get, all that food is enough food for a whole day in just one sitting.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on June 12, 2007, 01:28:59 PM
Thats vile.

Is there a starbucks on every street corner like there is here?
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
Isn't Starbuck's coffee the best ever?  :)
I don't really drink coffee but their iced Frappacino is great. I drink it once or twice a week, so is that OK? Instead of breakfast...
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: MasterWolf1 on June 12, 2007, 04:51:56 PM
Starbucks is way over priced.  I make coffee at home but if I am out most of the day working, then maybe I will stop at a Duncan Donuts.  Their iced coffee is very good.  Try it with lowfat milk and Splenda.  I like Splenda.  Stay away from Sweet N Low though.  The chemical Sweet N Low has is horrible.  And leaves a funky after taste plus has been shown it can lead to cancer.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on June 16, 2007, 05:56:31 PM
Isn't Starbuck's coffee the best ever?  :)
I don't really drink coffee but their iced Frappacino is great. I drink it once or twice a week, so is that OK? Instead of breakfast...

Frappachinos are extremely fattining but i love them too. I spend at least half an hour sprinkling all those flavourings on top and then letting it last for the entire day......drinking it in the morning kills your throat though.

I've started selling coffee and tea at my school for real cheap, i started making so much money and was told i had to donate it to the school.

Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: RationalThought110 on June 24, 2007, 10:55:58 AM
For the past 8 years I never ate any breakfast.  I just eat lunch and dinner and eat whatever I want, including hight carb and fatty foods.  I never gained any weight this way.  I think it's healthy to skip breakfast since I think it prevents diabetes and lets you eat whatever you want.  Who likes my idea? 

Why do you think it prevents diabetes?
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: jdl4ever on June 26, 2007, 09:25:25 AM
I think it does is since adult onset diabetes is caused by insulin insensitivity where the receptors for insulin get overstimulated so they stop responding and that causes the pancreas to secrete more insulin to get the same effect, and eventually the pancreas is unable to produce enough insulin so your blood sugar rises and continues to rise causing diabetes since insulin stimulates glucose to be taken into your cells.  It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Allen-T on June 26, 2007, 11:15:16 PM
My favorite breakfast when I lived in Europe was one healthy scoop of Jitrnice[a oatmeal like stuff made from ground pork with garlic and seasoning], one scoop Jelitka[like Jitrnice but with different seasonings,barley and blood], some fresh dark rye bread, mustard,horseradish,pickles and 2 beers. Breakfast of champions!!! And all for about $2!!! Can't find it here,though.

I can see why it comes with the 2 beers it sounds spicy!
Allen-T, It seems like they make sausges out of that stuff. It made from the head of a pig.
http://www.recipe4all.com/recipe/Liver-Sausage-Jitrnice-Czech-5696/

http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=152124

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Liver%20sausage%20(jitrnice)--czech

The last one has a link to a place in Brooklyn that sells the sausage.

Wow, thanks
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: RationalThought110 on June 28, 2007, 06:14:56 AM
I think it does is since adult onset diabetes is caused by insulin insensitivity where the receptors for insulin get overstimulated so they stop responding and that causes the pancreas to secrete more insulin to get the same effect, and eventually the pancreas is unable to produce enough insulin so your blood sugar rises and continues to rise causing diabetes since insulin stimulates glucose to be taken into your cells.  It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.


Interesting analysis.  I may not have absorbed all of this, but what causes the insuling receptors to get oversimulated?
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Shoshana on July 26, 2007, 10:18:28 PM
I never eat breakfast so you would think I would eat less calories however I eat big meals for my other two. :D
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: jdl4ever on August 01, 2007, 10:31:44 PM
I went off my no breakfast diet for a month since I woke up very early for work and was hungry and I gained some weight so I got to get back on my no breakfast diet to lose it. 
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Sarah on August 12, 2007, 12:27:08 PM
I just saw this on msn.com:

It is not. Breakfast is in fact the most important meal of the day. Numerous studies have shown that eating first thing in the morning stabilises your blood sugar levels, while missing out on breakfast can lead to fatigue and poor concentration. Skipping breakfast also slows down your metabolism and makes it more likely that you turn to snacking.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: jdl4ever on August 12, 2007, 02:41:15 PM
But if you actually get used to not eating breakfast you don't have fatigue or poor concentration and don't snack before lunch. 
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Jasmina on August 12, 2007, 07:47:26 PM
It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.

  are you sure about that? I know in the hospital we give 5 small meals a day to diabetic patients...
  all people are born with predisposition for different diseases and Diabetes Mellitus is one of them...if you watch for your calories intake, labs: especially Triglicerides who are known that if are high you are automatically predisposed for Diabetes) and if you are doing some exercises, you probably are spared of this incredible bad disease...
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on August 12, 2007, 08:25:23 PM
I dont know about not eating breakfest, but on most days I drink Kifir or eat cottage cheese ( with this fruit gelly) in the mournings. When im in school I eat an apple or some other fruit for lunch, (but then eat some what more after a workout and at night- meat, bread etc.)
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: jdl4ever on August 12, 2007, 09:58:04 PM
It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.

  are you sure about that? I know in the hospital we give 5 small meals a day to diabetic patients...
  all people are born with predisposition for different diseases and Diabetes Mellitus is one of them...if you watch for your calories intake, labs: especially Triglicerides who are known that if are high you are automatically predisposed for Diabetes) and if you are doing some exercises, you probably are spared of this incredible bad disease...

It's true!  I heard a rumor that you were also a medical student. 
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Jasmina on August 12, 2007, 10:28:39 PM
It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.

  are you sure about that? I know in the hospital we give 5 small meals a day to diabetic patients...
  all people are born with predisposition for different diseases and Diabetes Mellitus is one of them...if you watch for your calories intake, labs: especially Triglicerides who are known that if are high you are automatically predisposed for Diabetes) and if you are doing some exercises, you probably are spared of this incredible bad disease...

It's true!  I heard a rumor that you were also a medical student. 
  no, I'm not a student anymore, I finished my medical school in Romania and I passed my Medical board exams (step 1 and step 2) for United States...hopefully I`ll get into Internal Medicine residency in 2008!
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2007, 10:39:09 PM
It's nice to see that JTF has a small medical community...
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 13, 2007, 04:45:20 AM
It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.

  are you sure about that? I know in the hospital we give 5 small meals a day to diabetic patients...
  all people are born with predisposition for different diseases and Diabetes Mellitus is one of them...if you watch for your calories intake, labs: especially Triglicerides who are known that if are high you are automatically predisposed for Diabetes) and if you are doing some exercises, you probably are spared of this incredible bad disease...



There's a relationship between calorie intake and diabetes?
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: newman on August 13, 2007, 04:54:37 AM
It is therefore logical to myself at least that if an individual consumes 2 large meals spaced far apart from each other instead of 3 meals spaced closely together, the insulin receptors will not get overstimulated since you are eating major meals less times a day, and less frequent.  So I think it prevents diabetes, but this is merely my own opinion and there is no evidence for or against my idea.

  are you sure about that? I know in the hospital we give 5 small meals a day to diabetic patients...
  all people are born with predisposition for different diseases and Diabetes Mellitus is one of them...if you watch for your calories intake, labs: especially Triglicerides who are known that if are high you are automatically predisposed for Diabetes) and if you are doing some exercises, you probably are spared of this incredible bad disease...

It's true!  I heard a rumor that you were also a medical student. 
  no, I'm not a student anymore, I finished my medical school in Romania and I passed my Medical board exams (step 1 and step 2) for United States...hopefully I`ll get into Internal Medicine residency in 2008!

Wishing you well, Yasmine. :)
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Jasmina on August 13, 2007, 01:39:13 PM
@RationalThought110: yes there is a direct relationship between calories intake and Diabetes Adult type, especially if you eat a lot of white food ( white bread, rise, pasta, potatoes etc) and of course if you are predisposed , you have a lot of chance to get the disease...obesity is direct proportional with incidence of Diabetes...whats the solution? do exercises regularly (3 time a week is enought), eat a lot of vegetables (green food) and meat without fat (not to much oil, better eat boiled meat), do not use too much salt..
  @Newman: Thank you, very nice of you!!!
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: newman on August 13, 2007, 02:23:07 PM
@RationalThought110: yes there is a direct relationship between calories intake and Diabetes Adult type, especially if you eat a lot of white food ( white bread, rise, pasta, potatoes etc) and of course if you are predisposed , you have a lot of chance to get the disease...obesity is direct proportional with incidence of Diabetes...whats the solution? do exercises regularly (3 time a week is enought), eat a lot of vegetables (green food) and meat without fat (not to much oil, better eat boiled meat), do not use too much salt..
  @Newman: Thank you, very nice of you!!!

You're most welcome, Yasmine. From what I hear about NYC's hospitals with third world staff they need all the 'human beings' they can get. :)
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 06, 2007, 11:11:08 PM
Not a good idea. If you're going to skip a meal, skip lunch. Breakfast is very important. It's the meal that helps our metabolism, making it easier for the body to burn calories throughout the day.
Title: Re: jdl4ever's diet: Don't eat breakfast
Post by: serbian army on October 07, 2007, 10:44:43 AM
For the past 8 years I never ate any breakfast.  I just eat lunch and dinner and eat whatever I want, including hight carb and fatty foods.  I never gained any weight this way.  I think it's healthy to skip breakfast since I think it prevents diabetes and lets you eat whatever you want.  Who likes my idea? 
Who ever wants to loose his/hers health this is good way to do it ::)