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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aces High on July 29, 2010, 11:37:37 PM
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I guess better late than never.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/138847
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This will never happen, but can this sewer rat be killed with a massive insecticide fogging like the 430,000 Jews that he murdered?
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Too bad a Jew didn't put this devil underground, 60 years ago.
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This will never happen, but can this sewer rat be killed with a massive insecticide fogging like the 430,000 Jews that he murdered?
I would love to see that! In person!
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Justice is due...
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Too bad a Jew didn't put this devil underground, 60 years ago.
This will no doubt rub some the wrong way but Jews today need to face it--the Holocaust happened in very large part because Jews were way too nice and pacifistic--they refused to fight back. No European Jews listened to Ze'ev Jabotinsky's call to arms and we see what happened. We know what happened when Jews finally did fight back in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. If they had prepared to fight, no army in the world would have been able to match these disciplined, talented people one on one. If ragtag gangs of two-bit commie partisans in the Russian woods seriously hampered the Nazi war effort, imagine what a two- or three million strong guerrilla army of G-d's chosen could have pulled off.
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Too bad a Jew didn't put this devil underground, 60 years ago.
This will no doubt rub some the wrong way but Jews today need to face it--the Holocaust happened in very large part because Jews were way too nice and pacifistic--they refused to fight back. No European Jews listened to Ze'ev Jabotinsky's call to arms and we see what happened. We know what happened when Jews finally did fight back in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. If they had prepared to fight, no army in the world would have been able to match these disciplined, talented people one on one. If ragtag gangs of two-bit commie partisans in the Russian woods seriously hampered the Nazi war effort, imagine what a two- or three million strong guerrilla army of G-d's chosen could have pulled off.
If the Jews prepared for it, they could perhaps done some damage to the Nazis. It's hard to fight a military machine when you're a small minority inside a murderous Germany. But the thing was they refused to identify a situation that was getting worse by the second. And then it became too late, to do much about it. In a nutshell, like you said, they ignored Zeev Jabotinsky's call to arms, and to leave Germany.
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You got that right! And Menachem Begin, a follower of Jabotinsky, didn't screw around when Iraq (with the aid of France), in 1981, built a nuclear plant near Iraq. Begin knew what needed to be done. The Israeli's bombed the nuclear plant saying that they believed it was designed to make nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. (Does this ring a bell here??)
The Israeli Government explained its reasons for the attack in a statement saying: "The atomic bombs which that reactor was capable of producing whether from enriched uranium or from plutonium, would be of the Hiroshima size. Thus a mortal danger to the people of Israel progressively arose."
I know some of you won't forgive Begin for the Sinai; but, nevertheless, he knew what do in 1981 vis-a-vis Iraq's nuclear threat, as any true follower of Jabotinsky would know.
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In a nutshell, like you said, they ignored Zeev Jabotinsky's call to arms, and to leave Germany.
Of course, many Jews saw the writing on the wall and did manage to get out. But, of course, the numbers were so small in comparison to those who stayed. But hindsight is 20-20. And we must remember (Jabotinksy's warnings notwithstanding), there was no way, even after Kristallnacht, that the Jews in Germany could have imagined what was to come.
But we know. And we should never forget! And we should use this knowledge as a lesson to us to teach us, as Jews, what the possibilities are, and what the consequences of inaction and passivity can, G-d forbid, bring us.
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You are right, I am not a fan of Begin's, but he was still vastly better than that worm Lewinsky.
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I partially agree with Dr. Brennan Fan - those who did stay after all should have been armed, trained and get ready for war, if not, then try to run to Israel. But the Jews should have moved to Israel (until 1940 when the Nazi British forbade enterance to Israel, and even after that, because they had nothing to lose, the British and the Germans treated the Jews the same way) and not depend on miracles.
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I hope they can execute him before he dies of old age.