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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mord on August 20, 2010, 10:34:43 AM
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for going to Israel and supporting it
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-student-claims-shes-being-abused-for-supporting-Israel-100338349.html
(http://a.imageshack.us/img834/8862/clionacampbell.jpg)
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She's a beautiful person in many ways. :)
Truly a shining example for righteous gentiles.
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She's a beautiful person in many ways. :)
Truly a shining example for righteous gentiles.
true
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Damn she's fine!
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She's on my friendslist now.
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http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/clionac
Here is her FB. I have befriended her as well. :)
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I wonder what faith she is. I might want to start something here! ;-)
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Anyone:
What does this mean:
פשששששש מי יתן וירבו חיילות כמוך בצה"ל מחמד ליבי !
I posted a link to hayamin.org and I think this guy is trying to insult me, but the translater doesn't work that properly.
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Done and I left a hard core message of support for that young lady as well
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good thought mord
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Anyone:
What does this mean:
פשששששש מי יתן וירבו חיילות כמוך בצה"ל מחמד ליבי !
I posted a link to hayamin.org and I think this guy is trying to insult me, but the translater doesn't work that properly.
may the pretty girl soldiers like you multiply in zahal
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I wonder what faith she is. I might want to start something here! ;-)
She's Irish not Jewish i don't know if she's Catholic or Protestant she wasn't in the Army she was Sar El you spend 4 weeks helping around the base ram Emanuel did that i think he washed trucks.You have to give her credit many leftist anti Israel people in Ireland
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Anyone:
What does this mean:
פשששששש מי יתן וירבו חיילות כמוך בצה"ל מחמד ליבי !
I posted a link to hayamin.org and I think this guy is trying to insult me, but the translater doesn't work that properly.
I don't know to whom this refers but here' the translation:
wow ! let there be many female soldiers like you in the IDF, my cherished one.
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Mord, I was trying to say that if her spiritual background is at all similar to mine, I wouldn't be averse to startin' something overseas. ;D
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Mord, I was trying to say that if her spiritual background is at all similar to mine, I wouldn't be averse to startin' something overseas. ;D
Really, I heard she loves Eminem
:::D :::D :::D
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Damn she's fine!
You definitely could do worse.
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Anyone:
What does this mean:
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I posted a link to hayamin.org and I think this guy is trying to insult me, but the translater doesn't work that properly.
may the pretty girl soldiers like you multiply in zahal
Hmmm, the Dutch translation came up with 'Libby' and 'dog'. I thought he was trying to insult Kahanes wife, but maybe the name of the girls facebook page is Libby.
Thanks.
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I sent her a request. Maybe one day she'll join JTF.
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Anyone:
What does this mean:
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I posted a link to hayamin.org and I think this guy is trying to insult me, but the translater doesn't work that properly.
may the pretty girl soldiers like you multiply in zahal
Hmmm, the Dutch translation came up with 'Libby' and 'dog'. I thought he was trying to insult Kahanes wife, but maybe the name of the girls facebook page is Libby.
Thanks.
i think they meant leebe my heart
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well we got some thing from her side:
Many thanks guys, I really appreciate the support! But as I mentioned on facebook previously, I’m not ‘anti-Muslim’, I’m anti-extremism and that includes ‘extreme zionists’ such as Kahanists. While I don’t agree with many Islamic beliefs, I have respect for Muslims as a people, of which the majority don’t pose any threat whatsoever.
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well we got some thing from her side:
Many thanks guys, I really appreciate the support! But as I mentioned on facebook previously, I’m not ‘anti-Muslim’, I’m anti-extremism and that includes ‘extreme zionists’ such as Kahanists. While I don’t agree with many Islamic beliefs, I have respect for Muslims as a people, of which the majority don’t pose any threat whatsoever.
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I befriended her on Facebook and saw the same thing. So much for her as a JTFer. Baltimore also shared some things with me regarding Daniel Pereg although it was not Daniel himself who was quoted but one of his friends or supporters. Perhaps JTF is destined to be an outler group without mass support. Kahane in the JDL heyday never really had massive support but got a great deal done with the limited support he had. I think for Cliona to say outright she is against Kahanists is disappointing. The fellow Baltimore quoted was more of a person who if we were more thoughtful in things we said could be one of us.
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I put in another comment.
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Many of us had to hit a certain point before we came to JTF. Throughout my 20s when I saw Chaim on Manhattan Cable Network, I was totally and completely aghast at the things he would say, it was so contrary to my entire socialization as a self-hating Jew. For myself, I had to experience 'enough' anti-semitism and realize that no matter how much of a bending over backwards self-hating Jew, I might be, they still hated Jews at their core. When I came to this understanding on my own, I was that much more receptive to some of the core principles of JTF. The things that Chaim said about being a self-hating Jew, I already knew from the personal experience of trying to please people who hated Jews and would never be convinced no matter how much a bending over backwards ignorant self-hating Jew I became.
Furthermore, our media with it's relentless pursuit of bigoted double standards encourages us to say that religions that kill people epitomize peace, lest we be called a racist. She is very young. In time, if things go the way they are going, she, too, will come to a different realization of the world
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Done! What a great woman, may she have a life full of mazal!!!! :)
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why did Irish Zionist remove his post? he was right. She is weird islamic apologist. She has horrible views on Kahanism.
I know you have suffered from the Muslims, but that doesn’t mean that Muslims are ‘evil’ people- just as the Irish have suffered from the British, yet this doesn’t mean that all British people are now evil. Hate will only cause more hate, and if you’re don’t try to open up to people then you’ll never stop the vicious cycle. Hate the beliefs that made them into the people that they are, and hate the ideology behind their screwed up way of thinking, but don’t hate them. Had you been born into a Muslim family, you would think no differently- if anything, they are merely victims of a way of thinking which is both harmful to others and themselves. Pity them, as they are doomed to live a life of ignorance, but don’t hate them.
And I hate Kahanism, because it is bringing an ideology to the extreme, and extremism means acting without thinking rationally, therefore there is no difference between a Kahanist and an ‘Islamist’- they both are as dangerous as eachother because they are illogical and not open to new ways of thinking. Kahanists believe that Arabs are below them- a race of people who are simply barbaric, yet to view a whole race of people in this way is extremely naive and they are underestimating a LOT of intellectuals along with the bad.
Hope you'll think about what I said, and good luck
its best to defriend such idiots, than wasting time to convince them.
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I have taken her on politely and she stopped to calling my thinking lazy. I stuck with it and got some support.
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I have taken her on politely and she stopped to calling my thinking lazy. I stuck with it and got some support.
Good for a young person like her to stand up for Israel, in Ireland it's very hard. Ireland has many pro Palestinian leftists she's a good person
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why did Irish Zionist remove his post? he was right. She is weird islamic apologist. She has horrible views on Kahanism.
You know what, I don't even know why I did myself. I'll add her as a friend and see what she is like but i'm not getting my hopes up.
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I don't think she is a bad person. She has gotten the same brainwashing as all Israelis have and is no worse than they are, and in fact is probably still an improvement over most.
What can I say, most people just aren't ready to hear the truth. Rather than attacking her we should be grateful that she isn't an anti-Semite.
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why did Irish Zionist remove his post? he was right. She is weird islamic apologist. She has horrible views on Kahanism.
You know what, I don't even know why I did myself. I'll add her as a friend and see what she is like but i'm not getting my hopes up.
I send her a pm to tell her that if she get's physically harassed, you will come and protect her.
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Mord, I was trying to say that if her spiritual background is at all similar to mine, I wouldn't be averse to startin' something overseas. ;D
Really, I heard she loves Eminem
:::D :::D :::D
And what is wrong with that? Eminem don`t go to the street and shout "Kill all whites and they babys".
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Well she defriended me. I guess I challenged her too many times. I never said anything negative or insulting, just kept demonstrating that Islamic societies are dangerous at the current time. In her final comment to me she said that I want to act like the terrorists for the purpose of revenge. I asked her where I had said that, and I guess that was the final straw. With all the polite disagreements I have with Chaim (and they are probably more substantive than the ones I had with Cliona) I have never been banned here or threatened with banishment. I guess Liberals are not all that tolerant. Oh well. I guess it is still good that she volunteered with the IDF.
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"I'm sorry, but anyone who, in his right mind, follows a PEDOPHILE, RAPIST MASSMURDERER is simply evil. And don't give me this 'but pedophilia was normal at that time' apologetics. Jesus didn't do it either; he was a pacifist. And yes, that is islam in it's traditional form. Mohammed instructed his followers to kill and convert people.
They don't care about: the environment, the birds and the bees, drilling all over the place for oil, animal rights. They teach their own children to blow themselves up.
With their birthrate, mindset and social stealth-jihad taqqiya, islam is a threat to all existence. You have no choice but to oppose islam."
This moderate message made her defriend me after 5 minutes of posting it.
Skrew that whoring [censored].
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just hope she doesnt espionage as a part of IDF.
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I think it is a little disappointing that this girl don't comprehend to true nature of the situation but I can't say I am really disappointed. I don't expect every Irish man to be as righteous as our "Irish Zionist", and if the vast majority of the gentiles were more like this girl I still think it would be a huge improvement to what we have now.
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maybe she has muzzie friends like these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMpXmpGpEF0 :::D
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maybe she has muzzie friends like these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMpXmpGpEF0 :::D
She is in love with these muzzies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETIA1fSMVSE
;D ;D ;D ;D
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well we got some thing from her side:
Many thanks guys, I really appreciate the support! But as I mentioned on facebook previously, I’m not ‘anti-Muslim’, I’m anti-extremism and that includes ‘extreme zionists’ such as Kahanists. While I don’t agree with many Islamic beliefs, I have respect for Muslims as a people, of which the majority don’t pose any threat whatsoever.
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Kahanism, because it is bringing an ideology to the extreme, and extremism means acting without thinking rationally, therefore there is no difference between a Kahanist and an ‘Islamist’-
Every act that "Kahanism" encourages, it does so based on rational thinking and logic. She quite clearly has no idea what Kahanism actually is. She's made a boogeyman out of it because the media said it's bad and is "against peace." Did Rabbi Kahane ever advocate actions not rooted in a clear practical thought process?
"A Jewish fist with a Jewish head."
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Re: 'this girl from Eire
Just because you see website page in cyberspace with a photograph, name, and profile on it, does not necessarily mean that the person actually exists!
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Re: 'this girl from Eire
Just because you see website page in cyberspace with a photograph, name, and profile on it, does not necessarily mean that the person actually exists!
it's not only facebook it was on jpost as well as many Irish newspapers
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-student-claims-shes-being-abused-for-supporting-Israel-100338349.html
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Well, she blocked me too. I didn't even argue with her at all.
Oh well. Let's be thankful that she exists. She is a vast improvement over the majority of both Israelis and Irish.
What can I say? She is the way all young people of this generation are--including the religious.