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Title: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 30, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
Buchanan Writes Pro-Sarah-Palin Column

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/08/pat-buchanan-newt-gingrich-is-political.html

And hmmm, what do we have here.

Here is my current working theory on the Palin/Buchanan relationship. So, Sarah and Todd were fundraisers for Buchanan in 1996, and were at a minimum very friendly towards Pat in 1999. Maybe she really did support Steve Forbes in 2000 and maybe she didn't, but I am really starting to doubt that she had nothing to do with that Nazi prior to. In any event, when Sarah disavowed all ties to Buchanan in 2008 and pretended to be all pro-Jewish, it really angered Buchanan. He felt backstabbed. So, he went on the attack and started slamming her as a "neocon". Well--flash forward two years, and Palin has shown that most, if not all, of her pro-Israel posturing in 2008 was phony. Buchanan is reassured by his former ally and is now hoping to use her to his advantage in '12. So, he's starting to support her now, two years ahead of time.

(Oh, and Fag also defended the Ground Zero mosque in the process.)

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated. In particular, I would like to see your take on this, Chaim.

Dr. Brennan Fan.

Quote from: Conservatives4Palin.com
Pat Buchanan: Newt Gingrich is 'a Political Opportunist' Trying to Position Himself to the Right of Sarah Palin

By Hal

Via Politics Daily:

Fresh off his vacation, MSNBC's Pat Buchanan came out swinging Tuesday on "Morning Joe," calling former House Speaker Newt Gingrich a "political opportunist" for his comments about the proposed mosque in New York City.

On Monday, Gingrich compared the building of a proposed mosque near Ground Zero to Nazis putting up "a sign next to the Holocaust Museum" or "the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor."

Buchanan argued that Gingrich's controversial comments were meant to position him to the right of his potential GOP primary opponent, Sarah Palin, on the issue.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lisa on August 30, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
Typical paleo-Nazi scum. 

However, I noticed that he did not criticize Sarah Palin for her stance on the Ground Zero mosque, only Gingrich. 
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 30, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
Well, he is obviously supporting Palin.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on August 31, 2010, 01:18:25 AM
Who cares Nazi always support the GOP. Not like this is something we should take into account when we cast a vote for Palin.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 31, 2010, 02:35:13 AM
Who cares Nazi always support the GOP. Not like this is something we should take into account when we cast a vote for Palin.
huh?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 31, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Oh come on guys... more of you have to have an opinion on this development.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on August 31, 2010, 10:22:58 AM
No comment.     :laugh:
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: eb22 on August 31, 2010, 11:43:54 AM
Dr. Brennan Fan,     my guess is that Pat Buchanan has animosity towards Newt  Gingrich dating back to when Buchanan ran for President in 1996.    Check out the comments on April 8,  1997,   by Terry Jeffrey ,    Buchanan's campaign manager in 1996.       Getting revenge at Gingrich could very well be a part of Pat Buchanan's strategy,   which I'm sure has an evil end game:


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/april97/gingrich_4-8.html
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 31, 2010, 11:45:46 AM
Yes but he tried to get revenge on Sarah Palin in 2008, when she disavowed him and claimed to be pro-Israel. He has been supporting her for the past few months at least--why?

Like I have said before I am more and more doubting that she had nothing to do with him in 1996. If she did she should have just admitted it. I think that all of us on the right were too quick to believe her denial.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: eb22 on August 31, 2010, 11:57:23 AM
Pat Buchanan showed his true colors when he aided Barack Hussein Obama in 2008.       If Buchanan was truly doing what was best for the United States and even the Republican Party,   he would gone out 100 % in favor of the McCain/  Palin ticket and not compliment Hussein Obama.

This leads me to believe that Pat Buchanan's end game for 2012 isn't against Hussein Obama.    In Buchanan's evil mind,   he could be thinking that he can get revenge against Gingrich AND  damage Sarah Palin  (  because if he outwardly supports her,   that could hurt Sarah Palin in the mind of many voters and donors ).    Another related possibility that could tie to the rest of this or be a separate motivation,    is Buchanan is of the opinion that Sarah Palin would be a highly flawed candidate.    By supporting her,    Buchanan knowingly would help Hussein Obama.       But only a select few   ( JTF members would be a significant % of the select few )  would realize this.    In essence,  Buchanan wouldn't damage his so called reputation.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: AsheDina on August 31, 2010, 03:54:24 PM
Palin is for a TWO STATE in Israel.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on August 31, 2010, 04:19:01 PM
Palin is for a TWO STATE in Israel.

Yup.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on August 31, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
There's no way Buchanan would be supporting Palin if he really wanted her to be President.

He's way too devious a man.

He must be doing it as a slap in the face to the Republicans because he knows that his name association will be fodder for the Left to destroy Palin's chances.

The more I see and hear of Palin, the more I think of her as "trailer trash" and the product of bad breeding.

She'd be for a Six-State Solution tomorrow if she thought it would keep her in power.

*no offense meant to all the good folks residing in trailers
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 31, 2010, 10:41:04 PM
Just curious, why do you call him fag buchanus, this Jew hating, holocaust denying d**khead, is very antigay. 
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on August 31, 2010, 11:19:52 PM
Oh come on guys... more of you have to have an opinion on this development.
I am not sure it is much of a development.  While Buchanan is scum and pals around with Nazi Jew haters that does not mean it is his main or only issue.  He was a big supporter of Reagan who was certainly considered pro Jewish and pro Israel.  He was even somewhat pro Israel during the cold war.  My point is that if he is supporting Palin it does not make her a Jew hater.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on August 31, 2010, 11:22:25 PM
Palin is for a TWO STATE in Israel.

So is every Israeli Prime Minister since Rabin (even if he lyingly denied it).  It is not reasonable to expect her to be more pro Israseli than the Israelis.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 01, 2010, 01:24:57 AM
It is not reasonable to expect her to be more pro Israseli than the Israelis.
I defended her in the past when she said she supports two-states. To a limited degree, I even will now. I don't think she supports it out of anti-Semitism, but because she is a braindead ditz who will just say whatever she thinks she is supposed to say in order to be popular.

What is reasonable to expect of her however is for her to be honest about her past political affiliations.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 01, 2010, 01:27:21 AM
Just curious, why do you call him fag buchanus, this Jew hating, holocaust denying d**khead, is very antigay. 
Oh please... why did he say that homosexuals were welcome in his 2000 Reform Party campaign? And why is he such very good friends with the faggot Nazi Justin Raimondo (yimach schmo)?

For that matter... why does Buchanus have no children with his wife despite 50 years of marriage (hmmm, does the word "sham" come to mind?), and why was he rejected from the draft as a teenager for having Reiter's Syndrome, a joint disease caused by chlamydia, which disproportionately affected MSMs at the time?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on September 01, 2010, 04:05:17 PM

Oh please... why did he say that homosexuals were welcome in his 2000 Reform Party campaign? And why is he such very good friends with the faggot Nazi Justin Raimondo (yimach schmo)?
For that matter... why does Buchanus have no children with his wife despite 50 years of marriage (hmmm, does the word "sham" come to mind?), and why was he rejected from the draft as a teenager for having Reiter's Syndrome, a joint disease caused by chlamydia, which disproportionately affected MSMs at the time?
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Reiter's syndrome is not caused by Chylamydia, though it can have some of the same clinical features when left untreated  People with Reiter's syndrome are usually positive for the HLA-B27 haplotype which is a gene phenomenon, not a sexuallly transmitted disease phenomenon.  I don't know this Raimondo character and I actually thought he was unmarried which is why I guessed you were calling him a faggot.  Buchanan is hated by gays and has supported every piece of anti-gay leglisation that has ever been placed before Congress or more recently state leglislatures.  He could be another Roy Cohn, who knows
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 01, 2010, 05:07:23 PM
Justin Raimondo: http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/7138/A_Gay_Man_Decries_Gay_Rights.html

Who is Roy Cohn?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on September 01, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
Hmm, that article is no longer available for viewing.  If you say he is a nazi, I believe you.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 01, 2010, 05:31:33 PM
I meant to show you that he is gay, not that he is a Nazi (which he is). That he is a Nazi is obvious--just google his name and Israel.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: briann on September 01, 2010, 07:16:22 PM
I cant wait till Patty Buchanan dies.

I think there is something else here at work.  Patty tried desparately to get a Paleo-Con movement going with his pathetic independant party... and it got him nowhere.  Then he decided to root for Obama, and that got him nowhere.

So now, he wants to infiltrate the GOP again, so he can split it up, and tear it down.

At any rate, Patricia is an irrelovant old fossil and is probably showing early symptoms of dementia (My apologies for those truly suffering from dementia)

By the way, Even Michael Savage decided to distance himself from Patty, after he heard him using Nazi terminology to describe Israeli's defensive tactics.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: briann on September 01, 2010, 07:39:50 PM
It is not reasonable to expect her to be more pro Israseli than the Israelis.
I defended her in the past when she said she supports two-states. To a limited degree, I even will now. I don't think she supports it out of anti-Semitism, but because she is a braindead ditz who will just say whatever she thinks she is supposed to say in order to be popular.

What is reasonable to expect of her however is for her to be honest about her past political affiliations.

I think she is a bit of a ditz; which is why I dont support her either.  HOWEVER, she is far more pro-Israel than 90% of the candidates.  Its just sad that she is clueless about how destructive a 2 state solution is.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: cjd on September 01, 2010, 07:41:48 PM
I cant wait till Patty Buchanan dies.

I think there is something else here at work.  Patty tried desparately to get a Paleo-Con movement going with his pathetic independant party... and it got him nowhere.  Then he decided to root for Obama, and that got him nowhere.

So now, he wants to infiltrate the GOP again, so he can split it up, and tear it down.

At any rate, Patricia is an irrelovant old fossil and is probably showing early symptoms of dementia (My apologies for those truly suffering from dementia)

By the way, Even Michael Savage decided to distance himself from Patty, after he heard him using Nazi terminology to describe Israeli's defensive tactics.
Over the years Buchanan's views and opinions have been all over the charts to say the least.... He has now got to a point where he is like an old dog who barks away but has no real teeth to do much more... The evil  press will give him some face time because they feel he has the ability to damage the conservative movement with some of the stuff he comes up with and the things he does... He still may have some pull in select circles however not many folks in general pay attention to him and what he has to say.... His day is just about done.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 01, 2010, 11:41:03 PM
Over the years Buchanan's views and opinions have been all over the charts to say the least.... He has now got to a point where he is like an old dog who barks away but has no real teeth to do much more... The evil  press will give him some face time because they feel he has the ability to damage the conservative movement with some of the stuff he comes up with and the things he does... He still may have some pull in select circles however not many folks in general pay attention to him and what he has to say.... His day is just about done.

Not so unfortunately. Fag's sick ideas are alive and well in the wildly popular Paul family.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Xoce on September 02, 2010, 02:50:29 AM
I want to know why newt and puke-anan are still relevant at all.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on September 02, 2010, 04:37:27 PM
Everyone is for a 2 state soultion
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: cjd on September 02, 2010, 06:26:46 PM
Over the years Buchanan's views and opinions have been all over the charts to say the least.... He has now got to a point where he is like an old dog who barks away but has no real teeth to do much more... The evil  press will give him some face time because they feel he has the ability to damage the conservative movement with some of the stuff he comes up with and the things he does... He still may have some pull in select circles however not many folks in general pay attention to him and what he has to say.... His day is just about done.

Not so unfortunately. Fag's sick ideas are alive and well in the wildly popular Paul family.
Are Ron Paul and his son really that popular?? I know they have a following but is it enough to amount to anything? People like Buchanan and Ron Paul are a distraction nothing more... In my opinion anyway...
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 02, 2010, 07:26:33 PM
I will state the following about Buchanan (actually it is a repeated statement as I wrote the same long ago):

Patrick J. Buchanan is extraordinarily brilliant, and one of the finest living writers today.

As a historian, his research is impeccable, and his books as well as his articles are always so well written and readable as to serve as a model for any aspiring writer.

His "America Firster" perspective is for the most part in line with those views of our Founding Fathers; leaning towards a Libertarian/Constitutionalist point of view.

Unfortunately, his greatest weakness is his deep seated hate for the Jewish People, which tends to emerge frequently in his writings and which tends to discredit Buchanan as someone lacking true objectivity in his work.

However, as Rabbi Kahane so aptly pointed out, American history is replete with noted and prominent anti-Semites, and the vast majority of them are still accorded great respect and admiration in the Halls of Academe.

I read every thing Buchanan writes, and intend to always do so, as there is much of value regarding American and world history to be learned from the man, and even when I strongly disagree with his viewpoints on certain matters I find his thinking to be challenging.

What a pity that JTF hasn't within its ranks a writer/historian of Buchanan's stature capable of mass appeal and national syndication.



Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Historical Truth on September 02, 2010, 07:41:02 PM
I will state the following about Buchanan (actually it is a repeated statement as I wrote the same long ago):

Patrick J. Buchanan is extraordinarily brilliant, and one of the finest living writers today.

As a historian, his research is impeccable, and his books as well as his articles are always so well written and readable as to serve as a model for any aspiring writer.

His "America Firster" perspective is for the most part in line with those views of our Founding Fathers; leaning towards a Libertarian/Constitutionalist point of view.

Unfortunately, his greatest weakness is his deep seated hate for the Jewish People, which tends to emerge frequently in his writings and which tends to discredit Buchanan as someone lacking true objectivity in his work.

However, as Rabbi Kahane so aptly pointed out, American history is replete with noted and prominent anti-Semites, and the vast majority of them are still accorded great respect and admiration in the Halls of Academe.

I read every thing Buchanan writes, and intend to always do so, as there is much of value regarding American and world history to be learned from the man, and even when I strongly disagree with his viewpoints on certain matters I find his thinking to be challenging.

What a pity that JTF hasn't within its ranks a writer/historian of Buchanan's stature capable of mass appeal and national syndication.






He's pro-Hitler.

That right there nullifies any accomplishment he might have.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Historical Truth on September 02, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
He's like the rest of the Paleo-cons.


Make a ton of noise and offer no solutions beyond "Run Away".

He's garbage.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: The One and Only Mo on September 02, 2010, 07:48:01 PM
puke-anus is more like it.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 02, 2010, 08:57:50 PM
Justin Raimondo: http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/7138/A_Gay_Man_Decries_Gay_Rights.html

Who is Roy Cohn?
Roy Cohn was an aide to Senator Joseph McCarthy and took part in accusing people of being Communists in the 1950s.  Cohn was a petty crook who was always being indicted but never convicted.  He was a closet homosexual who died from AIDS.  I remember him being interviewed shortly before his death looking like an idiot denying that he was gay or had AIDS.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 02, 2010, 09:00:36 PM
Re:  "He's pro-Hitler. That right there nullifies any accomplishment he might have. "

Well then, blow a kiss goodbye to your Volkswagens and Superhighways, Ford, BMW & Mercedes and Porsche cars, Sonor drums, jet propulsion, missile & aerospace technology, neoprene, acrylics, the world standard textbook on human anatomy studied by surgeons, and even the world's first nation-wide anti-smoking campaign.

Ever see 2001 A Space Odyssey or enjoy the Winter Olympics theme music?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Historical Truth on September 02, 2010, 09:28:01 PM
Okay.
Re:  "He's pro-Hitler. That right there nullifies any accomplishment he might have. "

Well then, blow a kiss goodbye to your Volkswagens and Superhighways, Ford, BMW & Mercedes and Porsche cars, Sonor drums, jet propulsion, missile & aerospace technology, neoprene, acrylics, the world standard textbook on human anatomy studied by surgeons, and even the world's first nation-wide anti-smoking campaign.

Ever see 2001 A Space Odyssey or enjoy the Winter Olympics theme music?

Okay.

You wanna fawn over him?

Knock yourself out.

But DO NOT TRY TO CONVINCE ME THAT HE"S A GOOD MAN.
 :nono: :nono: :nono:
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 02, 2010, 09:32:40 PM
Re:  "He's pro-Hitler. That right there nullifies any accomplishment he might have. "

Well then, blow a kiss goodbye to your Volkswagens and Superhighways, Ford, BMW & Mercedes and Porsche cars, Sonor drums, jet propulsion, missile & aerospace technology, neoprene, acrylics, the world standard textbook on human anatomy studied by surgeons, and even the world's first nation-wide anti-smoking campaign.

Ever see 2001 A Space Odyssey or enjoy the Winter Olympics theme music?

So you're saying you actually read his book which he wrote specifically to whitewash Hitler?   That is one of his writings isn't it?   Or would you say your comment referred to his writings excepting the hogwash he writes about World War 2?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 02, 2010, 10:18:53 PM
Yeah.  That's right.

I said what I said.

Don't you read?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 02, 2010, 10:20:35 PM

Re:  "Okay.  You wanna fawn over him?  Knock yourself out.  But DO NOT TRY TO CONVINCE ME THAT HE"S A GOOD MAN. "

Got a problem with reading comprehension?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 02, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
Well then, blow a kiss goodbye to your Volkswagens and Superhighways, Ford, BMW & Mercedes and Porsche cars, Sonor drums, jet propulsion, missile & aerospace technology, neoprene, acrylics, the world standard textbook on human anatomy studied by surgeons, and even the world's first nation-wide anti-smoking campaign.
A lot of German technology came out of German Jews.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 02, 2010, 11:57:47 PM
Yeah.  That's right.

I said what I said.

Don't you read?

Actually, I presented an either/or, so responding "yeah" does not clarify which option you are confirming.   I was merely trying to clarify my understanding of what you said.   Nothing more.

The question, "don't you read?" reflects quite a bit of hostility, yet it's precisely that I did read that led to my question to make sure I understood your comment correctly.   See, because I DON'T want to fly off the handle like you feel some people do in reaction to your comments, and I DO want to make sure that I am not unfairly misinterpreting what you say, unlike how other posters sometimes treat you, that is why I asked a question.   

Perhaps you are perceiving a simple question as an attack where there was none?  Is there a reason to be in a defensive posture and to expect that what you wrote will naturally be attacked?  (This is rhetorical, and you don't have to answer).   Maybe you already subconsciously think so because what you wrote was provocative... or maybe not. 

Now care to reply without the snarls?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 03, 2010, 01:40:19 AM
Do you guys really need to fight? *sigh*

Can't we just focus on the topic at hand--which is that Sarah Palin is being supported by an open Nazi?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
"The question, "don't you read?" reflects quite a bit of hostility, yet it's precisely that I did read that led to my question to make sure I understood your comment correctly.   See, because I DON'T want to fly off the handle like you feel some people do in reaction to your comments, and I DO want to make sure that I ..."

I wrote that I read all of Buchanan's works and intend to continue reading them.

I also in the past have read each and every one of the speeches of Adolph Hitler, as well as Mein Kampf (both sections).

I also have studied in great depth historically documented histories and biographies of the people and events leading up to, and continuing up until the cessation of, The Third Reich -- including the writings of Goebbels, Goering, and Commanders of Panzer Divisions which invaded Russia.

I have also read Torah and the Jewish Scriptures which follow it, the autobiographies of Moshe Dayan, Menachem Begin, Ben-Gurion, Hindu Vedas, The Book of Mormon, Buddhist Scriptures, Sikh Scriptures, Ancient and Modern Japanese Literature, Jefferson, Marx, Lenin, and many other literary works.

Otherwise how is one to understand things in depth?

How else is one to know whether or not you're being fed a bunch of propaganda hogwash by the likes of an Ehud Barak?

Is a Jew simply a skinny "Woody Allen" type who needs no education, needng only to hear Abe Foxman call someone "an anti-Semite" to know all there is to know about how the world works?

Is a Jew someone who votes Democrat, knows without question that Rabbi Kahane and JTF are "nazis" because the latest edition of the Southern Poverty Law Center Journal says so, and fights "anti-Semitism" by writing a check to the Holocaust Memorial Fund?

Was Hitler nothing more than a maniacial cowardly psychotic, someone appearing 'out of the clear blue' in a total historic vacuum, devoid of previous events and circumstances, who one day, for no reason whatsoever, simply jumped up on a soapbox screaming "Kill the Jews!"?

Were the German people biologically "anti-Semitic", and so backwards and stupid, that they therefore needed only for some little runt with a funny moustache to scream "KILL ALL THE JEWS!" in order for them to commit a Holocaust throughout the entire world?

Are all non-Jews throughout the globe expected to be fanatically devoted to the cause of Jews and Israel, just because YOU think they should be that way?

And if they are all not in accord with YOUR thinking, does that mean that there is nothing to be learned from knowing their history and culture?

If an author holds a personal viewpoint unfavorable to Jews, does that therefore mean that there is absolutely nothing in the way of facts or truths which you could learn from them by reading their works?

Do you truly believe that Ha'Shem is in charge of everything that happens and that Judaism considers our G-d to be the G-d of History?

Are there those on this forum who have anything to say other than writing ad infinitum a Jewish curse they once heard Chaim say? ... or simply to write denunciations of all things and people who disagree with you?

Rabbi Kahane taught that the Holocaust was Ha'Shem's PUNISHMENT to the Jews, and he taught that if we did not LEARN from our own history another would soon appear; this time in America.

Rabbi Kahane also taught that Jews must completely disavow both Democrats and Republicans, siding instead with the common, working class Christian people whom all too many Jews consider "beneath them".

He said that even if they had no liking for Jews, their sense of American decency and their love of freedom would cause them to lend support to Jews simply on the basis of their commitment to our Constitutional Right to worship G-d as we saw fit.

Rabbi Kahane accepted Patrick Buchanan's invitation to appear live on Buchanan's nationally syndicated television show "Firing Line" to defend his views.

Apparently there are those here who will now call our Rabbi a nazi-lover and curse his name for appearing on Buchanan's syndicated television show.

Rabbi Kahane also said that we must side with the less fortunate Jewish refugees who fled to Israel to escape Arab and Muslim oppression, those whom the Israeli elite consider 'the unwashed and uncultured", those Jews who didn't need a college professor to understand the fact that Muslims and Arabs mean genocide and terror.

It saddens me to see on this forum so much denunciation and rejection of all Rabbi Kahane stood for, all in the name of "Kahanism".

Hypocrisy of the greatest magnitude.

You don't need any brains and you don't need any smarts if all you are about is hating "Liberals", supporting Republicans, and wanting to kill all Muslims.

Nor do you need any brains or smarts to refuse to read anything not taught at Yeshiva.

You can't answer lies and canards about Judaism, Jewish history, or Torah/Talmud written and spoken by the Nazis and Jew-haters, if you don't know what it is they write and speak.

This forum now more resembles a 6th grade "slam-book" passed around a classroom than it does anything which could ever make a difference in promoting the life work of Rabbi Kahane.

Perhaps it is no mystery why Jews living in Israel and America appear so easily manipulated and duped into promoting their own destruction.



 


Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: AsheDina on September 03, 2010, 10:21:02 AM
@Massuh:
Rabbi Kahane taught that the Holocaust was Ha'Shem's PUNISHMENT to the Jews, and he taught that if we did not LEARN from our own history another would soon appear; this time in America.
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You know, I read that. And the way these left wing Jewish MORONS act, they are digging our grave. The ONLY blessing right now, is that we have an internet.

Before it was those  "Zionists", now it is left wing Jews. These terrible, left wing political Jews, should, imo, be voted OUT like Chaim suggests.
(Same as blacks and minorities.) I mean here in USA. 

The thing is that people look at the Jews and expect them to be righteous, and everytime one of these left wing MORONIC Jews opens their mouth, it is just another assault on right wing-right minded Jews and Orthodox, religious Jews.

Sorry, left wing Jews, need to either; #1. Go back to the synagogue and Torah, or #2. Be right wing patriotic.
I mean that for America AND Israel.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: AsheDina on September 03, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
BTW: Flying off the handle, debating and fighting is a GOOD thing.

My opinion... makes for fun, stats go up, causes us to THINK.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2010, 10:45:40 AM
Re:  BTW: Flying off the handle, debating and fighting is a GOOD thing.

There's no business like SHOW BUSINESS!     :P     :o     >:(     :'(     8)     :laugh:   :laugh:   ;D  ;D  :::D
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: AsheDina on September 03, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
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Massuh:
I like the debate and argument, its fun!
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
"The question, "don't you read?" reflects quite a bit of hostility, yet it's precisely that I did read that led to my question to make sure I understood your comment correctly.   See, because I DON'T want to fly off the handle like you feel some people do in reaction to your comments, and I DO want to make sure that I ..."

I wrote that I read all of Buchanan's works and intend to continue reading them. 


Now that that's cleared up, I would say that personally, (regarding buchanan's ww2 thesis in which he tries to defend Hitler), when someone skillfully presents creative writing even though the genre they are claiming to represent with it is history, I don't consider that "brilliance" but rather folly and deception.   Good judgment is an element of brilliance, and nazis or Jew-haters of course do not exhibit good judgment, so I would never consider them wise, even if they are skilled at presenting deception, but that's my opinion of course.  I personally would not heap praise on someone (ie pat buchanan) who tries to whitewash Hitler or promote a nazi agenda, no matter how "clever" he is at promoting such evil things.  But again, that's just me.   That's just my opinion.  Maybe others here disagree.   
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Historical Truth on September 03, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
"The question, "don't you read?" reflects quite a bit of hostility, yet it's precisely that I did read that led to my question to make sure I understood your comment correctly.   See, because I DON'T want to fly off the handle like you feel some people do in reaction to your comments, and I DO want to make sure that I ..."

I wrote that I read all of Buchanan's works and intend to continue reading them. 


Now that that's cleared up, I would say that personally, (regarding buchanan's ww2 thesis in which he tries to defend Hitler), when someone skillfully presents creative writing even though the genre they are claiming to represent with it is history, I don't consider that "brilliance" but rather folly and deception.   Good judgment is an element of brilliance, and nazis or Jew-haters of course do not exhibit good judgment, so I would never consider them wise, even if they are skilled at presenting deception, but that's my opinion of course.  I personally would not heap praise on someone (ie pat buchanan) who tries to whitewash Hitler or promote a nazi agenda, no matter how "clever" he is at promoting such evil things.  But again, that's just me.   That's just my opinion.  Maybe others here disagree.   

I share Brennan's opinion.

Sorry for blowing up earlier.

I had a great Aunt who was sent to a concentration camp for refusing to work in a factory for the monsters of the Third Reich.

So I have very strong feelings about the Nazi's.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Re:  "So I have very strong feelings about the Nazi's."

No more so than do I.

However, it is not enough simply to hate Nazis and their followers.

There are many lessons to be learned from the historic events leading up to Hitler's assuming the German Chancellorship, and without understanding these events history will repeat itself and we will not even see it coming.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: muman613 on September 03, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
Re:  "So I have very strong feelings about the Nazi's."

No more so than do I.

However, it is not enough simply to hate Nazis and their followers.

There are many lessons to be learned from the historic events leading up to Hitler's assuming the German Chancellorship, and without understanding these events history will repeat itself and we will not even see it coming.

It was wrong for Hitler to assume, he made an Ay Es Es out of himself and the german people.

Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: cjd on September 03, 2010, 04:38:20 PM
Re:  "So I have very strong feelings about the Nazi's."

No more so than do I.

However, it is not enough simply to hate Nazis and their followers.

There are many lessons to be learned from the historic events leading up to Hitler's assuming the German Chancellorship, and without understanding these events history will repeat itself and we will not even see it coming.
Very true... We seem to be in some stage of that situation right now with what we have in Washington...
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on September 04, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
@Massuh:
Rabbi Kahane taught that the Holocaust was Ha'Shem's PUNISHMENT to the Jews, and he taught that if we did not LEARN from our own history another would soon appear; this time in America.
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You know, I read that. And the way these left wing Jewish MORONS act, they are digging our grave. The ONLY blessing right now, is that we have an internet.

Before it was those  "Zionists", now it is left wing Jews. These terrible, left wing political Jews, should, imo, be voted OUT like Chaim suggests.
(Same as blacks and minorities.) I mean here in USA. 

The thing is that people look at the Jews and expect them to be righteous, and everytime one of these left wing MORONIC Jews opens their mouth, it is just another assault on right wing-right minded Jews and Orthodox, religious Jews.

Sorry, left wing Jews, need to either; #1. Go back to the synagogue and Torah, or #2. Be right wing patriotic.
I mean that for America AND Israel.

The more that I begin telling my old friends the more conservative I have begun, the more I hear stories that are negative for one thing or another about Jews.  I had one such experience today with a friend I have known for over 8 years.  I was surprised at the level of vitriol she directed towards Jews and others.  She worked in a place with a boss she didn't like.  That's one, lets say really bad Jew, and now we are all painted with the same brush in a moment of anger.  I do not want to move to Israel, but maybe I will have no choice if this is the way America goes
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 04, 2010, 07:53:22 PM
Stop fighting.

Can't we all just agree Buchanan is evil?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 06, 2010, 11:26:47 AM
Just curious, why do you call him fag buchanus, this Jew hating, holocaust denying d**khead, is very antigay. 
Oh please... why did he say that homosexuals were welcome in his 2000 Reform Party campaign? And why is he such very good friends with the faggot Nazi Justin Raimondo (yimach schmo)?

For that matter... why does Buchanus have no children with his wife despite 50 years of marriage (hmmm, does the word "sham" come to mind?), and why was he rejected from the draft as a teenager for having Reiter's Syndrome, a joint disease caused by chlamydia, which disproportionately affected MSMs at the time?

You know what the problem is with this line of reasoning?  When I was 29 years old, I was single, thin and had lived in San Francisco for 4 years.  If that was all you knew about me, you probably would have assumed I was gay given  your line of reasoning.  However, if you talked to any women I had been involved with you would have been set straight (no pun intended).   The point is to take half a story and twist it around to draw conclusions is very faulty reasoning.
Why do he and his wife have no children?  Perhaps she is infertile, perhaps he has a low sperm count.  There is also a vascular abnormality on the testicles (it is repairable) that can cause men to be unable to impregnate women.  She could have had an etopic pregnancy.  I had an Aunt who was married for 65 years who was unable to have children.  The only thing I will concede is that Buchanan for years was so ferociously anti-gay it makes you wonder if he protested too much.  Unfortuntely the same could be said of you.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: FreedomFighter08 on September 06, 2010, 12:11:43 PM
Palin is an idiot. Don't vote for Palin.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Historical Truth on September 06, 2010, 12:15:37 PM
This thread should be closed since were basically going in circles.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 06, 2010, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Secularbeliever
The only thing I will concede is that Buchanan for years was so ferociously anti-gay it makes you wonder if he protested too much.  Unfortuntely the same could be said of you.
Excuse me... are you trying to say I am a Nazi like Pat Buchanan--really???
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 06, 2010, 06:22:42 PM
Quote from: JTFEnthusiast2
The only thing I will concede is that Buchanan for years was so ferociously anti-gay it makes you wonder if he protested too much.  Unfortuntely the same could be said of you.
Excuse me... are you trying to say I am a Nazi like Pat Buchanan--really???
LOL no I was talking gay not Nazi.  I was just trying to show how easy it is to jump to conclusions,
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 06, 2010, 06:55:07 PM
LOL no I was talking gay not Nazi.  I was just trying to show how easy it is to jump to conclusions,
What has Buchanan done that is meaningfully anti-gay? He has given lipservice to abortion, homosexuality, gun rights, etc. but 99% of his efforts have been against the Jews.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 06, 2010, 07:28:38 PM
In the 1980s and 1990s Buchanan was railing against homosexuals constantly.  He did not turn anti Israel until about the time the Soviet Union fell apart.  His love affair with Nazi war criminals goes back further.  I despise Buchanan for his support of Nazis and his Pavlov like anti Israel dogma but I think it is inaccurate to say 99% of his efforts have been against Israel.  In the 1990s one of the Times previous owners (Rosenthal I believe) accused Buchanan of being anti Semitic.  It was discussed on one of the debate programs.  Fred Barnes stated " I don't think Pat is anti Semitic but I do have to wonder why of all problems in the world he concentrates on accused Nazi war criminals"  I thought that was a great line, not specifically accusing him but saying he is or we can easily see why he is accused of such.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 06, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
If you can find it, listen to his 1992 address to the Republican Party (which went over time and pushed Reagan back past prime time).  He refers to "political crossdressers" and other barbs at gays.
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on September 06, 2010, 07:42:03 PM
AS SB says, only in recent years has he turned to Jews.  I suspect that's because it is less PC to hate gays nowadays.  But he got a lot of mileage out of it when it was popular.  Besides some gays became raving lunatics after AIDS with their initial protests.  I remember when I was about 15, they closed down the Brooklyn Bridge!  If Jews behaved like that, perhaps he leave us alone as well
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 06, 2010, 08:25:14 PM
AS SB says, only in recent years has he turned to Jews.  I suspect that's because it is less PC to hate gays nowadays.  But he got a lot of mileage out of it when it was popular.  Besides some gays became raving lunatics after AIDS with their initial protests.  I remember when I was about 15, they closed down the Brooklyn Bridge!  If Jews behaved like that, perhaps he leave us alone as well
Not true. As early as the early/mid-80s he was railing against Jews at least within the Reagan Administration. He pressed his senile old boss to ferociously prosecute Jonathan Pollard and to honor the dead SS butchers at Bitburg, under the threat that all who opposed doing that were "succumbing to the pressures of the Jews". And we all know what his former boss, the Jew-hater Richard Nixon was like--do you really doubt that he didn't at all encourage those tendencies?
Title: Re: Fag Buchanus, yimach schmo, supporting Sarah Palin
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 06, 2010, 08:28:22 PM
I doubt if Buchanan was making or influencing decisions on Pollard.  That was the handiwork of Caspar Weinberger.