What do people here think of him?If he didn't drink he would have got rid of communists in the movie industry as well as Govt
Joe McCarthy was right, Joe McCarthy was right.
Re: "Time will tell. "
I believe that time has already told all it's going to tell us.
Most people of historic importance are neither fully good nor fully bad.
It is a great mistake to try to view them and their importance in terms of "all good" vs "all bad".
We must always remember that even the greatest of idols still have feet made of clay.
Re: "Time will tell. "It's not so much a good vs bad thing when it comes to McCarthy its more of was he on the right track... I myself don't believe he was targeting people needlessly... 20 years ago I might have had a more negative view point on McCarthy but I have seen a few things about him in the past few years that said he may have been the right track... As we see today our government is overrun by leftist with an leftist agenda that has been installed there over the years... At some point there is always the ah...ha moment where the picture becomes clear... I don't think we have reach that point yet with McCarthy but we are getting very close to it.
I believe that time has already told all it's going to tell us.
Most people of historic importance are neither fully good nor fully bad.
It is a great mistake to try to view them and their importance in terms of "all good" vs "all bad".
We must always remember that even the greatest of idols still have feet made of clay.
Where in MassuhDeGoodName's post do you get the idea that he is idol worshiper. Sometimes I have to wonder about you. ::)Re: "Time will tell. "
I believe that time has already told all it's going to tell us.
Most people of historic importance are neither fully good nor fully bad.
It is a great mistake to try to view them and their importance in terms of "all good" vs "all bad".
We must always remember that even the greatest of idols still have feet made of clay.
It is not the Jewish viewpoint. Hashem is ALL GOOD... All he does is for the best...
And even every person who is "all evil" is only allowed to be "all evil" by Hashem, thus the evil has a good purpose but we cannot understand what it good about it at the time...
Why do you talk about idols? I hope you are not worshiping any... Sometimes I wonder about you..
It is true that most people are neither all good nor all evil... These people are weighed on the balance and depending on whether they have more good deeds or more evil deeds they are judged.
Where in MassuhDeGoodName's post do you get the idea that he is idol worshiper. Sometimes I have to wonder about you. ::)Re: "Time will tell. "
I believe that time has already told all it's going to tell us.
Most people of historic importance are neither fully good nor fully bad.
It is a great mistake to try to view them and their importance in terms of "all good" vs "all bad".
We must always remember that even the greatest of idols still have feet made of clay.
It is not the Jewish viewpoint. Hashem is ALL GOOD... All he does is for the best...
And even every person who is "all evil" is only allowed to be "all evil" by Hashem, thus the evil has a good purpose but we cannot understand what it good about it at the time...
Why do you talk about idols? I hope you are not worshiping any... Sometimes I wonder about you..
It is true that most people are neither all good nor all evil... These people are weighed on the balance and depending on whether they have more good deeds or more evil deeds they are judged.
Some of our modern day idols have 'feet of plastique' anyway. :::D
The only impression which remained with me after watching the 2 hr. long documentary of the trials at which McCarthy and his two young protege attorneys cross examined the witnesses, was that I was watching one old besotted closet queen fag and his two undeniably fag sissy boys who were all 'doing each other' behind the scenes when not acting like super patriots in public.
AND HE DIED OF AIDS IN HIS UPSCALE MANHATTAN PENTHOUSE.
The "accepted thinking" about the late Senator Joseph McCarthy which I was taught in school all the way up through college, was that he was a vicious "Red-baiting" right-wing monster who betrayed the Constitution by abusing the civil rights of innocent people, and destroyed their lives and livelihoods in order to selfishly promote his own political career.
There were also rumors and intimations about his supposed morphine addiction and alcoholism.
I never really knew much of him, nor did I care.
So one day about fifteen years ago I rented a video documentary from a video store to watch filmed minutes of the trials at which he presided, calling up as witnesses a wide range of Hollywood executives as well as top actors and actresses.
The only impression which remained with me after watching the 2 hr. long documentary of the trials at which McCarthy and his two young protege attorneys cross examined the witnesses, was that I was watching one old besotted closet queen fag and his two undeniably fag sissy boys who were all 'doing each other' behind the scenes when not acting like super patriots in public.
Now...before anyone here jumps in my shi_t to proclaim me some kind of commie for those comments, let me continue.
I remember remarking to myself upon watching the effeminate mannerisms, hair style, and persona of the one young Jewish attorney seated at McCarthy's table "Jeez!"..."I can't believe that these guys here are the ones who are so famous for going after communist infiltrators way back in the 1950s!"..."They are undoubtedly all as queer as a three dollar bill!" "I don't know how all of the GOP stalwarts there even allowed these guys to do anything in public, let alone be filmed and put on television!"
I don't even recall the name and face of one of the two young attorneys. But the one seated closest to the Senator was named Roy Cohn. He had a very long and lucrative career as a New York City attorney, was a friend of President Richard M. Nixon, and made a lot of money during his lifetime.
AND HE DIED OF AIDS IN HIS UPSCALE MANHATTAN PENTHOUSE.
Some of our modern day idols have 'feet of plastique' anyway. :::D
Joe McCarthy was a fascist. He ruined careers and lives (of many Jews, too!) for no reason -- other than the fact that people chose to join the communist party, which, of course, was their right. It's my right to belong to jtf.org regardless of what any liberal thinks. Sure, they were misguided people! But McCarthy trashed the Constitution every single day.
Re: "So if they were gay and doing each other, does that mean Mccarthy was wrong about the communists? "
Not at all.
But in the 1950's in the U.S.A. there was no such thing as a "gay".
There were simply HOMOSEXUALS.
And Homosexuals in the 1950's were considered by all Americans to be as equally as evil as any Communist Party card-carrying Stalin-loving commie pinko rat out to sabotage America and G-d.
Different times .... very much different times than those today.
A homosexual back then, if revealed and exposed, was FIRED immediately from any position of employment, forbidden to teach, barred from all public service as well as barred from military service. And the AMA official handbook of Psychiatric Disorders and Diseases ranked Homosexuality a most serious mental illness which called for hospitalization, brain surgery, or other radical treatments. Any decent family would disown and disavow a family member with such tendencies. The shame and disgrace they would face just having anyone learn of such a terrible thing would have been more than they could possibly bear.
That is why my being struck with McCarthy and his cronies being all closet queens didn't register with you - because the mentality today of most people is far more knowledgeable and tolerant of people who only sixty years ago were quite literally arrested, jailed, and put on trial for the serious heinous act of being a homosexual.
Keep in mind also, that comedians who used "off color humor", made fun of authority figures or religious figures, were routinely arrested on stage by uniformed policemen, beaten severely, arrested, and tried on obscenity charges.
Musicians like the great Gene Krupa who was caught in Kansas City buying a nickel matchbox of marijuana was arrested, beaten, tried, and sentenced to prison for "narcotics addiction", which meant that his "Cabaret Card" was revoked, which meant that he was also forbidden to work when he got out of prison for quite some time. Same story is true with hundreds of other great music stars from that era.
Very different times than those today, and not necessarily always better ones.
I just thought of a funny name for a band:
Vladimir Lenin & Joseph McCarthy
What do you think?
PS: Ok I realize most readers are too young to get it... But what the heck...
Joe McCarthy was a fascist. He ruined careers and lives (of many Jews, too!) for no reason -- other than the fact that people chose to join the communist party, which, of course, was their right. It's my right to belong to jtf.org regardless of what any liberal thinks. Sure, they were misguided people! But McCarthy trashed the Constitution every single day.
However, if those whom McCarthy accused could see the U.S.A. today, they would think that the Commies won the Cold War!