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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on October 08, 2010, 12:51:40 PM
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With all the talk of "rising numbers" Muslims keep highlighting, there are some facts which should put a Muslim to shame, with 1.57 billions Islamic population, Mecca attracts about 15 million muslims per year.
Every year, millions of Muslims perform the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca walking seven times around the Kaaba and more than 13 million people visit Mecca annually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca
While in India,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirumala_Venkateswara_Temple
The temple is reportedly the richest and the most visited place of worship in the world.[1] The temple is visited by about 100,000 to 200,000 pilgrims daily, while on special occasions and festivals, like the annual Brahmotsavam, the number of pilgrims shoots up to 500,000, making it the most visited holy place in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabarimala
Sabarimala is the largest annual pilgrimage in the world with an estimated 45–50 million devotees coming every year.
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I was told that the Saudi government collects money from these Mecca pilgrims and passes the money straight to terrorist affiliated outfits.
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Hindu Zionist, I can't remember where or when but I think I heard somewhere that the Muslims actually took Mecca from the Hindus, that the kaaba and the black stone was originally a Hindu monument. Is this true?
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Last Maha Kumbh Mela, held in 2001, was attended by around 60 million people, making it the largest gathering anywhere in the world in recorded history.
Also pl see:
http://www.gonomad.com/features/1008/sadhus-at-khumb-mela.html
Muslamics think that they are the kings of the earth, but they are the fools of the earth.
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Kaaba a Hindu Temple?
http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm
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Hindu Zionist, I can't remember where or when but I think I heard somewhere that the Muslims actually took Mecca from the Hindus, that the kaaba and the black stone was originally a Hindu monument. Is this true?
traditionally Hindus accept that Akhanda Bharat/Greater India extended from Eastern Iran to Indonesia, But certain Ancient Hindu Kings were able to rule extended areas, and some ancient stone inscriptions have been found denoting this, like from the link syyuge posted.
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Haram Al Haram Kaaba-Hindu Shiva Temple Garbhagriha Black Stone Shivalinga More similarities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRx3Fe3wzyY
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I see it more as a conspiracy theory that kabaa was a hindu temple. But i have seen it makes Muslims very uncomfortable, so i wud like to support it lol
But it is largely accepted by Hindus, that Arab desert lands were mostly ruled by Mleccha's, The term is very similar sounding to "Molech", Mleccha is spelt as Malecha. Describing barbarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
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I see it more as a conspiracy theory that kabaa was a hindu temple. But i have seen it makes Muslims very uncomfortable, so i wud like to support it lol
But it is largely accepted by Hindus, that Arab desert lands were mostly ruled by Mleccha's, The term is very similar sounding to "Molech", Mleccha is spelt as Malecha. Describing barbarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
Molech is something a Jew should stay away from. Hashem expressly commanded us to not worship Molech, who was worshipped by passing children through fire.
Here is some info on it: http://www.ou.org/torah/ti/5763/kedoshim63.htm
And Hashem spoke to Moshe, saying: “And to the Children of Israel you shall say: Any one from the Children of Israel and from the stranger who lives in Israel, who shall give of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And, as for Me, I will set My face against that man, and I will cut him off from the midst of his people, because he has given of his offspring to Molech, to defile My Mikdash and to profane My Holy Name (Vayikra 20:1-3).
The abominable practice of passing one’s offspring through a fire for the idol called Molech is certainly reprehensible. But, why does it say that it defiles the Sanctuary? It is not performed in the Temple!
Therefore, Rashi offers an unconventional translation:
To defile my Mikdash – the congregation of Israel which is sanctified to Me, like the expression, “so that he will not profane My sanctified things (Mikdash)” (Vayikra 21:23).
Rashi’s point seems to be that Mikdash does not always refer to the Sanctuary, a place of holiness; it can also mean a sanctified thing, such as the sacrifices (as in 21:23), or the people of Israel (as in our verse, 20:3).
Rashi is saying that the idolatrous worship of Molech by an individual in the midst of the people of Israel is a defilement of the entire community. A similar idea is found in Sforno, who adds that, because the individual has banished the Divine Presence from the midst of the people, it is only fitting that “the people of the land shall stone him with stones”, because they are all harmed by his deeds.
http://www.torah.org/learning/ravfrand/5762/achareimos.html
The Desecration of Molech: We Will Be Held Accountable For Our Priorities
The end of Acharei Mos contains the prohibition of giving one's children over to the pagan worship of Molech. This tragic form of Avodah Zarah (idolatry) involved transferring one's child to the priest of Molech, who would then pass the child through fire as an act of worship to the pagan god. In some forms of this worship the child would in fact be burnt to death. The Torah verse that prohibits this act says. "...that you will not thereby profane the Name of your G-d, I am HaShem." [Vayikra 18:21]. In other words, beyond the intrinsic prohibition of the idolatry involved, there is another prohibition, that of Desecrating the Name of G-d (Chillul HaShem).
The Ramba"n elaborates on the unique desecration of G-d's name that accompanies worship of Molech. The Ramba"n explains that it will be a Chillul HaShem when the nations will hear that Jews honor their G-d by offering animal sacrifices, but that they honor Molech by offering their children.
Rav Dovid Kviat (in his Sefer Succas Dovid) observes that this concept -- that a person can cause a Chillul HaShem by showing greater homage and honor to some other area in life than to the Master of the World, is a phenomenon which is far less foreign to us than the cult of Molech.
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India and Israel destined for true friendship:
http://www.hinduism.co.za/islam.htm#India and Israel destined for true friendship
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Thanks syyuge and HZ.