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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3977144,00.html
Chicago rabbi says Yemen bombs targeted gay synagogue
US security official tells Jewish leader one of explosive-laden packages from Yemen targeted gay and lesbian congregation Or Chadash. 'We held Kabbalat Shabbat as usual, but with added vigilance,' worshipper says. Suspect's attorney: I fear she has been unwittingly used by others
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 10.31.10, 09:26 / Israel News
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The explosive-laden packages sent from Yemen targeted a gay and lesbian synagogue in Chicago, a local rabbi said.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Rabbi Michael R. Zedek from Chicago's lakeside Emanuel Congregation said a security official informed him that Congregation Or Chadash, a sister synagogue housed within Emanuel was thought to be a target.
Or Chadash is a gay-and-lesbian synagogue that shares space with Emanuel Congregation and the Chicago Jewish Day School for children.
Lili Kornbloom, who regularly prays at Or Chadash, told Ynet the congregation's members held a Kabbalat Shabbat as usual despite reports that they were apparently the target of an international terrorist plot.
"The only difference was that security was tighter than ever. We are continuing as usual but with added vigilance," she said.
"We were chosen as the target because we are a Jewish organization from Chicago," Kornbloom added.
Michael C. Kotzin, the executive vice president of the
Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago, said prayer services at the local synagogues were conducted as usual.
Yemeni security forces on Saturday arrested a woman believed to be involved in sending explosive packages that were bound for the United States.
The arrest was the first in the case, which has triggered an international security alert.
The Yemeni suspect's lawyer, Abdel Rahman Burman, said he feared she had been unwittingly used by others.
Shabbat service at Chicago synagogue (Photo: AP)
"Her acquaintances tell me that she is a quiet student and there was no knowledge of her having involvement in any religious or political groups," he told Reuters.
"I'm concerned the girl is a victim, because it doesn't make sense that the person who would do this kind of operation would leave a picture of their ID and their phone number."
One of the packages was found on a United Parcel Service cargo plane at East Midlands Airport, north of London. The other bomb was discovered hidden in a computer printer cartridge in a parcel at a FedEx Corp facility in Dubai.
That package was brought in on a Qatar Airways plane that stopped over in the Qatari capital Doha, the airline confirmed.
UPS and FedEx, the world's largest cargo airline, halted shipments from Yemen. On Saturday, Yemen shut down both companies' operations there, citing security concerns.
Britain halted all air freight from Yemen.
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The head gay of this Gay Temple is a supporter of Jstreet
http://calneocon.typepad.com/blog/2010/10/rabbis-for-j-street-continue-to-hide-their-role-in-legitimizing-their-support-for-anti-israel-j-stre.html
'Rabbi' Laurence Edwards ;D
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every jew is precious to hashem. All the self hating jews are just misguided.
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omg
I don't believe the bullcrap the media is promoting. A "gay and lesbian shul?" The story has become distorted beyond recognition!
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Mord, you are parroting the gay agenda. It's a synagogue with a policy of openness to gay people. That does not make it a "gay synagogue!" Ynet once again prove themselves a bunch of morons.
Not only that but they share the space with 2 other Jewish groups, so was the day school targeted for being children, and the islamists are children-haters? Give this BS a rest.
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Mord, you are parroting the gay agenda. It's a synagogue with a policy of openness to gay people. That does not make it a "gay synagogue!" Ynet once again prove themselves a bunch of morons.
Not only that but they share the space with 2 other Jewish groups, so was the day school targeted for being children, and the islamists are children-haters? Give this BS a rest.
Tbthe temple's is worse, parroting the 'good side' of Fred Phelps, YSV.
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Muslamics in general and their terrorists in particular can never be justified.
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I thought the head of this sin'agogue was a woman. At least that's what CNN reported. My cousin's bar mitzvah was at a reform temple with a female "rabbi". It was really embarassing.
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Mord, you are parroting the gay agenda. It's a synagogue with a policy of openness to gay people. That does not make it a "gay synagogue!" Ynet once again prove themselves a bunch of morons.
Not only that but they share the space with 2 other Jewish groups, so was the day school targeted for being children, and the islamists are children-haters? Give this BS a rest.
Tbthe temple's is worse, parroting the 'good side' of Fred Phelps, YSV.
Who's fred phelps?
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Kahane,
I am o nmh iPhone, but if you google Fred phelps you will know immediately who that Jew hating swine is
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Mord, you are parroting the gay agenda. It's a synagogue with a policy of openness to gay people. That does not make it a "gay synagogue!" Ynet once again prove themselves a bunch of morons.
Not only that but they share the space with 2 other Jewish groups, so was the day school targeted for being children, and the islamists are children-haters? Give this BS a rest.
Tbthe temple's is worse, parroting the 'good side' of Fred Phelps, YSV.
Who's fred phelps?
He's a real charmer:
"God Hates Jews."
"You will be destroyed at the hand of Antichrist Obama, and you will eat your little cute, chubby, Kosher babies."
"Men, take the covering off your heads. While you are doing that, you need to repent of the FACT that you Killed Christ!"
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Being a 'religious' leader [some sort of Baptist], he has followers. This is an example of their usual appearance:
(http://www.aqurette.com/journal/assets_c/2009/06/hate_picketer-thumb-550x366-1161.jpg)
(http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/arpaio-visits-houston-and-the-bigots-at-westboro-baptist-church-have-a-new-target-jews.3858992.40.jpg)
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Is there any confirmation by more informed sources (i.e the pentagon) that this queer temple was indeed a target ?
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And this place would have something positive to say about him? I don't get it.
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KWBRT,
Anyone sane knows this man is the devil incarnate for the hell he has put the parents of dead gay men through, those of our brave American soldiers lost on the battlefield and now Jews who live near this piece of excrement. Thanks for your response KWBRT
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I never understood why they wanted to punish the PARENTS of gay people. It's not like it's their fault their child is gay.
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Being a 'religious' leader [some sort of Baptist], he has followers. This is an example of their usual appearance:
(http://www.aqurette.com/journal/assets_c/2009/06/hate_picketer-thumb-550x366-1161.jpg)
(http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/arpaio-visits-houston-and-the-bigots-at-westboro-baptist-church-have-a-new-target-jews.3858992.40.jpg)
Anyone is half-sane would say those signs are not true.
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Tbthe temple's is worse, parroting the 'good side' of Fred Phelps, YSV.
Look, either you left the gay lifestyle or you didn't. This kneejerk defense of all things homosexual is getting tiresome.
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DBF,
Feel the need to pick a fight, do it with someone else. You do many things that are 'tiresome,' and I still stick up for your a@@. Direct your aggression elsewhere. Calling something a fag temple is an Abomination. Learn how to READ
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I didn't call it a "fag temple", but the only abomination here is homosexuality. Jews who claim to be leading a house of worship that excuses, defends, and supports sodomy are more evil than a thousand gay-bashers.
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DBF,
Call me a real Leftist because I don't believe that any person deserves to be blown up
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Being a 'religious' leader [some sort of Baptist], he has followers. This is an example of their usual appearance:
(http://www.aqurette.com/journal/assets_c/2009/06/hate_picketer-thumb-550x366-1161.jpg)
(http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/arpaio-visits-houston-and-the-bigots-at-westboro-baptist-church-have-a-new-target-jews.3858992.40.jpg)
Not that you think this, but just for the record, these freaks of nature (yimach schmam) do not speak for even a tiny handful of Christians. This is an insane, perverse, incest-practicing cult.
Now, what I really resent is when members say that anyone who opposes sodomy and sodomite "churches" or "shuls" is the same as Westboro Baptist.
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DBF,
Call me a real Leftist because I don't believe that any person deserves to be blown up
Who is talking about defending blowing people up? Nobody that I've seen is. You got angry because people called this monstrosity exactly what it is--a fag "sin-a-gogue". It certainly isn't a real synagogue. It's an abomination. It is just as evil as Fred Phelps' so-called "church".
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DBF,
Call me a real Leftist because I don't believe that any person deserves to be blown up
Who is talking about defending blowing people up? Nobody that I've seen is. You got angry because people called this monstrosity exactly what it is--a fag "sin-a-gogue". It certainly isn't a real synagogue. It's an abomination. It is just as evil as Fred Phelps' so-called "church".
You're not only being offensive to Jews, you're contradicting yourself. You say you didn't call this a fag temple, then you just did. I'm all out of charity DBF. Bully someone else
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Why doesn't this coon Obama (I was going to call him a chimp, but that would be an insult to chimps!) bomb the drek out of Yemen and any other filthy Arab terror state. We need a leader with something between his/her legs!!! >:( ABOVE ALL OBAMA: STOP BLAMING ISRAEL FOR YOUR STUPIDITY!!!!!!! >:(
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You're not only being offensive to Jews, you're contradicting yourself. You say you didn't call this a fag temple, then you just did. I'm all out of charity DBF. Bully someone else
One of these days you are going to have to decide what you are more loyal to, homosexuality or your new life and faith.
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Mord, you are parroting the gay agenda. It's a synagogue with a policy of openness to gay people. That does not make it a "gay synagogue!" Ynet once again prove themselves a bunch of morons.
Not only that but they share the space with 2 other Jewish groups, so was the day school targeted for being children, and the islamists are children-haters? Give this BS a rest.
Tbthe temple's is worse, parroting the 'good side' of Fred Phelps, YSV.
Who's fred phelps?
Fred Phelps is the pastor of a church that believes opposes homosexuality, abortion and Islam. Unfortunately they are against Jews, Israel and the United States.
I am by no way condoning the Westboro Baptist Church for their hatred again us, but I am parroting the 'good side' of being pro-life, pro-marriage and pro-zionist.
This is about the issues and not the people representing them.
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You're not only being offensive to Jews, you're contradicting yourself. You say you didn't call this a fag temple, then you just did. I'm all out of charity DBF. Bully someone else
One of these days you are going to have to decide what you are more loyal to, homosexuality or your new life and faith.
Way to not answer a point. And you accuse others of not reading and being provocative? I will think twice before I stick my neck out for you DBF. Picking fights and being deliberately nasty, engaging in false ad hominem attacks is something for which you owe me an apology. If you are going to start making enemies with people who have taken up for you, I do not predict good things re: your relationships with others.
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Way to not answer a point. And you accuse others of not reading and being provocative? I will think twice before I stick my neck out for you DBF. Picking fights and being deliberately nasty, engaging in false ad hominem attacks is something for which you owe me an apology. If you are going to start making enemies with people who have taken up for you, I do not predict good things re: your relationships with others.
Interesting words from a member who chased one of the best JTFers off the forum and still doesn't see any need to apologize. Anyway, goodnight.
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TBOT,
We don't agree. I don't imagine that I can change your, or anyone's pov. Likewise, re: this issue, I am clear on what I think. Have a good night
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Fred Phelps is the pastor of a church that believes opposes homosexuality, abortion and Islam. Unfortunately they are against Jews, Israel and the United States.
I am by no way condoning the Westboro Baptist Church for their hatred again us, but I am parroting the 'good side' of being pro-life, pro-marriage and pro-zionist.
This is about the issues and not the people representing them.
Fine post.
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Way to not answer a point. And you accuse others of not reading and being provocative? I will think twice before I stick my neck out for you DBF. Picking fights and being deliberately nasty, engaging in false ad hominem attacks is something for which you owe me an apology. If you are going to start making enemies with people who have taken up for you, I do not predict good things re: your relationships with others.
Interesting words from a member who chased one of the best JTFers off the forum and still doesn't see any need to apologize. Anyway, goodnight.
More ad hominem....can't write a legitimate response, then resort to lying. The person here struggling with homosexuality seems to be you. Congrats, you've almost dragged me down to your level, Jew hater
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Thanks. DBF. I find it interesting that JTFenthusiast2 is accusing you of avoiding your points while clearly not answering mine and not making his case.
The one thing that is disturbing me is that this has progressed to personal hostility. JTFenthusiast2, I'm really hoping that this does not amount to a personal grudge, but I have to stand up for my values.
Since I cannot do it without a personal bias, I'm asking the other moderators to review this thread and determine if it should be locked for a few days so tensions can cool down.
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Why doesn't this coon Obama (I was going to call him a chimp, but that would be an insult to chimps!) bomb the drek out of Yemen and any other filthy Arab terror state. We need a leader with something between his/her legs!!! >:( ABOVE ALL OBAMA: STOP BLAMING ISRAEL FOR YOUR STUPIDITY!!!!!!! >:(
But unfortunately, he won't. I only wish we had a great leader leading this country against terrorism.
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Thanks. DBF. I find it interesting that JTFenthusiast2 is accusing you of avoiding your points while clearly not answering mine and not making his case.
The one thing that is disturbing me is that this has progressed to personal hostility. JTFenthusiast2, I'm really hoping that this does not amount to a personal grudge, but I have to stand up for my values.
Since I cannot do it without a personal bias, I'm asking the other moderators to review this thread and determine if it should be locked for a few days so tensions can cool down.
I made my points super clear. If you read my posts, which you clearly did not, they were solely about referring to this place as a fag sinogogue. That's all I wrote.. When you refer to a Jewish place of worship as a fag synagogue, you sound like that Nazi Fred Phelps because that is indeed what he says. What is embarrassing is how incredibly poorly some people on this site read. I let DBF attack me a few times before I responded in kind. In your last post, you attempt to put words in my mouth. Sorry, but those are your words and not reflected in asinine thing I posted. As a Jew, you should be offended by placing the word fag next to synagogue, that you side with dbf's nazism is your problem, not mine. I started out respectful, but I'm not going to be slandered with complete BS and take it.
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I made my points super clear. If you read my posts, which you clearly did not, they were solely about referring to this place as a fag sinogogue. That's all I wrote.. When you refer to a Jewish place of worship as a fag synagogue, you sound like that Nazi Fred Phelps because that is indeed what he says. What is embarrassing is how incredibly poorly some people on this site read. I let DBF attack me a few times before I responded in kind. In your last post, you attempt to put words in my mouth. Sorry, but those are your words and not reflected in asinine thing I posted. As a Jew, you should be offended by placing the word fag next to synagogue, that you side with dbf's nazism is your problem, not mine. I started out respectful, but I'm not going to be slandered with complete BS and take it.
:laugh:
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The only point I made in any of these threads was that no Jew, or any person, deserves to meet their end through Arab terror. That you and DBF, in particular, perverted this sane message with your owntwistwdness speaks volumes about your characters. Not only are your accusations complete drek, you're arrogant enough to think you can change my words and get away with it, calling in a moderator, as if you're fantasy about what I wrote will be confirmed into reality. That's a Goebbel's move if ever there was one. And DBF has the gall to accuse me of driving away a forum
member when he attacks me in this thread for no reason and fights with everyone on this site in general.
Mods will have to check the original thread to see all of the original comments and the comments on this thread where DBF. Furthermore, TB you try to make it sound like I have a problem with you when I was respectfully disagreeing with you. Then you make a point to tell me I haven't answered your ???? That anyone on this forum would think that Arab terrorists blowing up Jews at a temple was 'ok' is beyond depraved
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every jew is precious to hashem. All the self hating jews are just misguided.
I agree for the most part. An attempt must be made to bring every Jew back to the torah. This is why Chabad is open to everybody who is Jewish and even people who want to convert. The Rebbe's outreach efforts will impact the Jewish nation forever. While we are on the topic of synagogues being open to sodomy. There is a difference between welcoming gay people in for worship and advocating the gay agenda. Even though the faggot is an abomination, when he comes in with the intention of worshiping Hashem, he still counts towards the minyan because he still has a Neshama.
On the flip side, treason cannot be accepted. This is why the 19th prayer was added to the Amida.
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I'm very confused here. The "temple" has a policy of openness to gays and at the same time promotes fred phelps? Something doesn't add up.
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People, let's stop this right now!
JTF opposes all Muslim terror against Synagogues. Now keep in mind that Chaim has stressed on past Ask JTF shows that we must stand united against this terror, even if it's directed at self-hating Jews. After all, those people are still Jews in the eyes of the terrorists, and the rest of the world. So letting them get hurt would be a chillul Hashem, and would ultimately make good Jews look weak. (I'm just paraphrasing what Chaim has said in past Ask JTF shows.)
Anyway, I don't see the point of comparing this reformed Synagogue to Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church. These misguided homosexuals don't go around protesting at military funerals, nor have they ever threatened to crash the funeral of those murdered Amish girls to call them whores. So I won't have any such comparisons here! For those of you who don't know who Fred Phelps is, here's the address is one of his websites:
http://www.godhatesfags.com
As for them being against Muslims, that's a load of bull excrement. They're all just obsessed with homosexuality and bad mouthing America. Any noises they might make against Muslims is just for publicity.
As for this deformed synagogue being a target, you guys need to get smart. Do you really think those Muslims had any idea what kind of place they were targeting? Furthermore, they're not against Jews for being (supposedly) pro-homosexual. They're against Jews because they believe we run the world, and that we "stole" fakestine from them. So I don't want to see any more posts about this so-called "fag synagogue" deserving to get bombed, or I'll delete them.
This thread is being locked now!