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Title: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: ItalianZionist on November 14, 2010, 07:59:09 PM
I received the results of my genetic test from Genetree (which appears to be a legitimate lab company. It appeared on 60 minutes and 20/20).

My mother's mtDNA haplogroup is H (the subgroup I don't know). My father's is Subgroup: R1b1b2*-M269. I'm Italian on both sides. 

Does anyone know to what nationality/location these haplogroups correspond?
thnx

Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: TheViper on November 14, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)
This might help?
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: White Israelite on November 14, 2010, 10:35:34 PM
R1b is the most common gene found in western europe, H originates from southwest asia/middle east
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(mtDNA)

common in Europe.
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 15, 2010, 09:51:22 AM
You are part Jew!!!!!!!!

 :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 15, 2010, 09:52:21 AM
You are part Jew!!!!!!!!

 :dance: :dance:


No just kidding..i have no clue what that info all means.
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: syyuge on November 15, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
http://www.kknfa.org/haplogroups.htm

H  = 'Y-Adam' > M168 > M89 > M69

Ancestors of Haplogroup H migrated along the Eurasian Steppe 'highway' from the Middle East around 45,000 years ago continuing toward India.  During this journey over hundreds of generations, a man was born approximately 30,000 years ago with the M69 marker, which now defines the H lineage.  Today this lineage is nearly completely restricted to the regions of preset day India, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan.

Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: White Israelite on November 15, 2010, 03:39:36 PM
Who did you use to do your DNA test? I am using 23andme
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: Lisa on November 15, 2010, 04:03:02 PM
Just out of curiosity IZ, why did you get this test done? 
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: ItalianZionist on November 15, 2010, 07:27:45 PM
Who did you use to do your DNA test? I am using 23andme

Hi W.I.
      I used genetree.  They were featured on 20/20 and 60 minutes. I would assume they are legitamate. The test is free if you have grandparent, parents, etc, who are from eastern Europe.  Other  labs are very expensive.
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: ItalianZionist on November 15, 2010, 07:35:29 PM
Just out of curiosity IZ, why did you get this test done? 

Hi Lisa,
  To tell you the truth, I had the test done because all my life I have been mistaken for other nationalities...Sephardic, ashkenazi, turkish, even Arab.  People never say I look Italian.

I thought I was going to result in a either ashkanazi  or Sephardic ( Haplo J). I'm kind of disappointed. I've been told all my life that I look "Jewish".
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on November 15, 2010, 07:39:15 PM
Can I ask: how much did the test cost?  Thanks
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: ItalianZionist on November 15, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
genetree.com

If your family comes from eastern europe it costs only $49 .
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: Rubystars on November 15, 2010, 07:52:02 PM
I'm surprised they don't send an explanation of the haplogroups along with the information they send you
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: ItalianZionist on November 15, 2010, 07:58:46 PM
Actually they did. I  just wanted to know if it was accurate.  The only thing they say is that  "haplo  h" is the most common in Europe.
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: White Israelite on November 15, 2010, 10:14:41 PM
Just out of curiosity IZ, why did you get this test done? 

Hi Lisa,
  To tell you the truth, I had the test done because all my life I have been mistaken for other nationalities...Sephardic, ashkenazi, turkish, even Arab.  People never say I look Italian.

I thought I was going to result in a either ashkanazi  or Sephardic ( Haplo J). I'm kind of disappointed. I've been told all my life that I look "Jewish".

H is still common in the middle east as well, middle easterners are Caucasian like Europeans and Levantines share more in common with Eastern Mediterranean than they do with other Arab populations.

DNA isn't the only way to class what you are, if your into anthropology, you can identify someone based on appearance and phenotypes as well.
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: muman613 on November 15, 2010, 10:57:59 PM
One thing to keep in mind is this... There is physical DNA and there is spiritual DNA. I have heard some Rabbis speak of the Jewish spiritual DNA, which sometimes occur in people who are not born into a Jewish family. Spiritual DNA is one explanation why some special people want to do a full Orthodox conversion in order to join (or re-join) the Jewish people. There is no test in this world to verify whether you have a Jewish soul. The only way to know if you have a Jewish Neshama is if you feel a desire to do the commandments of the Torah, and to serve Hashem with all your hearts and all your soul.

http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/750522/Rabbi_Dovid_Gottlieb/Vayeira:_Spiritual_DNA
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: TheViper on November 16, 2010, 10:58:52 AM
Is there not one where they take like a swab of saliva from your mouth and do a dna family report like that?
Title: Re: Does anyone on the forum know something about Haplogroups?
Post by: White Israelite on November 16, 2010, 01:21:20 PM
I've done both quantum blood testing and mouth swab.