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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 02, 2010, 11:28:12 AM
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Police suspect arson because fire started from 3 separate points of origin simultaneously. Entire kibbutzim and villages had to be evacuated. After a prison was evacuated, a bus full of prison guards and cadets trying to escape from the fire was trapped in the flames and 40 people are estimated dead, 22 confirmed so far.
Beit Oren, in which several houses burned down and many damaged was described by the Firefighter's spokesman as "Former Kibbutz Beit Oren"
Fires Likely started by Arab terrorists
http://muqata.blogspot.com/2010/12/raging-fire-in-northern-israel-causes.html
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140968
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All who died were self-hating Jewish police officers, and Arab and Druze prison guards. Let them kill each other.
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Ron: I really don't think you can say that every single Jewish policeman is a Nazi.
KWRBT: Just watch, the Arabs who started this, when caught, will get six months in a country-club resort before being released to Abbas in a "confidence-building move". >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Ron, this fire is not limited to a single bus. It is huge.
Latest update from Jameel:
"Community of GivatWolfson, people are trapped in their homes.
Channel 2 News reports that high winds are fanning the flames which is burning out of control."
Greece is sending fire-fighting helicopters to help put out the fire.
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And why are Jewish prison guards self-hating? That was a warped comment. It looks like that bus did not contain any prisoners!
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If Jews were smart they would burn down Ramallah in return. And just to be humane give the savages there one day notice to get out.
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The fire in the Carmel Mountains may turn out to be the worst terror act in Israel's history, but major news outlets appear resolute in their will to ignore this fact and its implications.
According to an unconfirmed report on rotter.net, Radio Haifa reported that Arabs have been dancing in the streets of Furadis, just south of Haifa, in celebration of the deadly fire.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140974
[censored]..g Arab pigs
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yaakov: from that article, check his out -
"Deputy Minister Ayoub Kara (Likud), a resident of Usfiyeh, said on Channel 10 Thursday evening that he has received information that the fire is a terror act. He said that if the perpetrators are caught they should be executed "like [the Nazi criminal Adolf] Eichmann" who is the only person put to death by Israel to date."
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Liberate Gaza for starters.
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How about piping a couple tankers of petrol into the Gaza City Children's Ward and dropping some white phosphorus (like the Nazis are always claiming)?
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How about piping a couple tankers of petrol into the Gaza City Children's Ward and dropping some white phosphorus (like the Nazis are always claiming)?
I've seen a picture of a phosphorus attack. That's pretty scary.
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yaakov: from that article, check his out -
"Deputy Minister Ayoub Kara (Likud), a resident of Usfiyeh, said on Channel 10 Thursday evening that he has received information that the fire is a terror act. He said that if the perpetrators are caught they should be executed "like [the Nazi criminal Adolf] Eichmann" who is the only person put to death by Israel to date."
AYOUB KARA ALTHOUGH A DRUSE SHOULD BE PROMOTED TO HIGH POSITION IN ISRAEL'S GOVT.AS FAR AS THE ARAB PIG PEN OF Furadis ARE CONCERNED I WOULD LOCK THEM IN THEIR PENS AND SET FIRE TO WHOLE VILLAGE
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12,000 have been evacuated from homes! :o
Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria who have prepared for emergency war situations to take in refugees from 'israel proper' are taking in mass numbers of these evacuees to safety and shelter.
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Some updates from "Jameel at the muqata"
11:26 PM IDF sending combat cadets from the Paratrooper, Golani and Kvir Brigades to help with the evacuattion.
11:21 PM Updates: Over 12,000 people evacuated from their homes. Prison Services deny that 4 prisoners escaped. Foregin Minister Avigdor Leiberman announces that 12 countries are now sending firefighting planes and equipment...and that the Pentagon is checking if they have available equipment to send from the area.
11:18 PM MK Ayoub Kara (Likud) announces on Channel 10 TV that the fire was "an attack" and deliberately set. Developing story....
11:14 PM Channel 10 reports that four inmates escaped during the evacuation and are currently at large.
11:05 PM NASA Satellite photo from space.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gnm2C1B8vbI/TPgKRmjbMMI/AAAAAAAAFKo/XGkRLVkW3HM/s400/Israel_amo_2010336.jpg)
Massive fire in Israel can be seen from space - NASA satellite photo
Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 21:37
A massive forest fire broke out near Haifa in Israel today and NASA took a image of it with the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA's Agua satellite. The photo was taken at 12:10pm local time.
You can see a red line on the outside of the fire drawn by NASA. Strong winds fueled the fire.
40 People died thus far of the fire and the fire is now totally out of control (time of writing). The worst hit part is Carmel Mountain region, the IDF allocated all its resources to fight the fire.
The cause of the fire is still unknown.
NASA image courtesy the MODIS Rapid Response Team at NASA GSFC. Caption by Holli Riebeek.
10:55 PM JNF reports over 10,000 dunams of forest have been destroyed by the fire.
10:51 PM 36 of the victims' bodies have so far been positively identified.
10:50 PM Teacher-Soldiers drafted to aid in evacuations.
10:46 PM Fire-fighting aid from Foreign counties:
5 firefighting planes from Greece
2 firefighting planes from Azerbaijan
1 firefighting helicopter from Cyprus
4 firefighting planes and necessary fire-retardant chemicals from France
2 firefighting planes and 3 firefighting helicopter from Croatia
2 firefighting helicopters from Turkey
(Channel 2 News)
10:42 PM Emergency Phone Numbers:
Rambam Hospital: 12-55-144
Carmel Hospital: 12-55-142
Bnei Zion Hospita: 12-55-145
Social-Security Welfare 24 hotline: 118
Emergency Hotline for Families of Prison Services Workers: 08-977-5701
Shomron Regional Council Emergency Volunteer Hotline
to provide housing assistance for displaced families: 1-700-700-106
10:40 PM Italy not able to send fire-fighting planes due to stormy weather.
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TELL TURKEY TO TAKE THEIR PLANES BACK
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TELL TURKEY TO TAKE THEIR PLANES BACK
If Israel knew what was good for her she'd break out the SAMs.
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If Jews were smart they would burn down Ramallah in return. And just to be humane give the savages there one day notice to get out.
I agree. Burn Ramallah before it's too late.
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How many more disasters before Israel gets a leader who will get the Arabs out one way or another?
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This from Judeo-American pundit Steven Plaut in Haifa:
You all are hearing about the big fire near Haifa. I am in the city,
and probably do not have much better information than you all have.
But a few fast comments. A lot is still not known about the fire and
the related events. It now looks like it started in an illegal
garbage site near the Druse village of Issawiya on Mt Carmel. It
spread east and the ex-kibbutz of Beit Oren was badly damaged. The
worst part of the tragedy is the death of about 40 prison service
cadets on a bus caught in the firestorm. As fate would have it, most
of those cadets are apparently Druse themselves, and had been in a
training course to serve as prison wardens and workers.
Fire started during first day of Hannuka, and is raging now as Jews
light the second candle. It has not yet rained this year and the
country is parched. Ideal for forest fires.
There are reports of incompetence on Israel’s government’s part in
having failed to plan properly for such an event and for having failed
to procure firefighting planes and equipment. We will know more later
if these charges are fair.
The air in Haifa is filled with smoke. The flames are not far from
the University of Haifa, so if the winds change I could end up getting
a long vacation. University was evacuated today at 2 PM. The fires
are clearly visible from the Haifa-Tel Aviv highway. From a distance
the smoke looks like an erupting volcano.
Tira, the next town south of Haifa is being partially evacuated, and
plans are afoot to evacuate the southernmost neighborhood in Haifa,
Denya, where the rich and yuppies live in between forest fires. (It
has seen damage in the past from other fires.)
Most forest fires in Israel are acts of ecological terror set by Arab
arsonists. When this fire broke out, there were news reports here
that it was arson, although now the media are claiming (politically
correctly?) that it was accidental and spread from a Druse garbage
lot.
The chief of Haifa police was injured in the fire. As it turns out,
the chief is a woman (I confess, I did not even know that). Yes, a
woman. But that will no doubt be overlooked by the radical feminizts
sucking up to the Hamas and boycotting Israel. See
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3993445,00.html
Israel asked for firefighting aid from Turkey. I personally would
have limited the requests for aid to civilized countries.
More:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3993203,00.html
Firefighters recommend evacuation of Haifa University
Haifa firefighters recommended that Haifa University students be
evacuated from campus on Thursday, due to a fire raging on the Carmel.
In their recommendation they stated that there was no fear of the fire
spreading in the university's direction and that the evacuation was
merely a precautionary measure.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/haifa-mayor-says-flames-spread-on-a-scale-we-ve-never-seen-1.328425
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Let me guess, good Jews are about to get arrested for calling a spade a spade, i.e. that Koranimals set this fire.
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I read rumors that there is evidence that the fire was started at three points, making it obviously an arson...
I just read reports that arabs are celebrating the fire... This would be indicative of their support for arson..
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Nuke Ramallah!
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Wind blown fires like that are very bad... California has had a number of bad ones in the past few years...Here on Long Island some years back we had a few bad ones in the pine barons that someone was deliberately setting and causing a great deal of damage... G-d willing they will soon get the one in Israel under control before anyone else is hurt or killed.
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I read rumors that there is evidence that the fire was started at three points, making it obviously an arson...
I wrote that in the first post in this thread.
I just read reports that arabs are celebrating the fire... This would be indicative of their support for arson..
Yes the media is keeping this hidden.
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I read rumors that there is evidence that the fire was started at three points, making it obviously an arson...
I wrote that in the first post in this thread.
I just read reports that arabs are celebrating the fire... This would be indicative of their support for arson..
Yes the media is keeping this hidden.
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OOps, I did not read the article you posted, sorry... But I read the report from INN this morning.
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Nuke Ramallah!
to close to Jerusalem,
a conventional firebombing would do the trick
also, why ramallah? go for umm al fahm
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More updates from jameel (muqata.blogspot.com), earliest on bottom
See here for many pictures: http://muqata.blogspot.com/
Another photo of the fire -- taken from Yitzhar, over 100 km away from the fire. source: http://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/18656.shtml
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gnm2C1B8vbI/TPgqMRNUhOI/AAAAAAAAFK4/siBtj1P3nzk/s400/view_from_yitzhar.jpg)
1:09 AM Sorry for the delay; had a MDA first response call to a car accident on the road.
Israel Radio reports that the Denya neighborhood of Haifa is now being evacuated.
12:07 AM Do you live in Israel and want to help? National Hotline to help families displaced by the fire: 02-652-2222
12:03 AM Egypt offers firefighting support. 200 IDF HomeFront command reserve firefighters drafted under emergency draft rule 8. Haifa Police Chief Ahuva Tomer in critical condition -- hurt during the fire earlier today.
11:45 PM Channel 2 reports that the fire simultaneously started this morning in 3 separate locations.
Strong winds are now driving the fire in the direction of Haifa.
Gilboa Region community of "Ein Harod" setting up tent city to house some of the families evacuated by the fire.
If you live in the Shomron area, you can volunteer to host families by calling the
Shomron Regional Council Emergency Volunteer Hotline
to provide housing assistance for displaced families: 1-700-700-106
11:32 PM MK Ayoub Kara demands the death penalty for the terrorist-arsonists who started the fire.
11:31 PM Emergency Prayer and Tehillim services at the Kotel now, lead by Israeli Chief Rabbis and Rav Ovadya Yosef.
11:29 PM Israel Chemical Company announces it will offer 100% of its fire-fighting chemical stock located in Israel and France to help fight the fire, at no cost.
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100,000 Arabs need to be killed in retaliation for this.
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Druze from the village of Usafiye near Haifa did that too.
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Ron: I really don't think you can say that every single Jewish policeman is a Nazi.
The policemen in Israel are generally self-hating Jew-beating stormtroopers who defend Arabs and arrest Jews. Same situation in Haifa.
Even in cases not involving Arabs, the policemen in Israel know how to deal with the Jooooooz.
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More updates, 2 arabs (or druze, i forget) caught trying to set more fires, other fires have started today in kiryat bialik and other places!
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Fires were today all over Israel
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Is there anywhere to donate to help during this disaster? Just got my paycheck today.
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This from Steven Plaut of Haifa University:
Whatever the causes of the large Carmel Forest fire near Haifa, it
is now clear that all of the numerous secondary fires in other
locations near Haifa that were set today are Arab terrorist attacks
and were deliberately set.
There were multiple fires set in the industrial zone near Kiryat
Bialik, north of Haifa today, not far from Acre. There were also
fires deliberately set near Tiv’on, Nesher and in other places. This
is a full-fledged ecological terrorist assault against Israeli Jews
being conducted by Israeli Arab terrorists. The leftist media
repeat without question the lies about Jewish “settlers” supposedly
setting fires to Arab orchards in the West Bank, even after Arabs
themselves and leftists have been photographed in the act of setting
those fires as provocations to blame “settlers.” These are the same
media playing coy about the causes of all these smaller secondary
fires around Haifa today.
The woman chief of police in Haifa was so badly burned in the fight
against the fire that she is being described as mortally hurt.
If you are watching the newsreels, you saw an hour or two ago Bibi
Netanyahu, together with much of the Israeli cabinet including the
Minister of the Interior and the Minister of Police, giving a press
conference from the campus of the University of Haifa, with the smoke
and flames off in the background. If you look closely at those
newsreels, you will see the building right behind Bibi, and a window
in that building just over Bibi’s head, as he speaks. That window is
my office.
So as you can imagine, my big dilemma over the past few hours has
been whether or not to hang a large “Yesha is Here” banner out of my
office building. I also considered shouting out the window down to
Bibi, “But do you have any Grey Poupon?”
The University of Haifa was shut down on Thursday at mid-day. You
realize what this means? It means that on Thursday, because of the
fire, hundreds of University of Haifa students were denied the chance
to listen to anti-Israel leftist indoctrination lectures by their
post-Zionist anti-Israel leftist faculty members!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101204/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_fire
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So why then did Israel's channel 2 report that the original fire had 3 simultaneous points of origin? That doesn't happen from a bonfire gone awry!
They are trying to cover it up.
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So why then did Israel's channel 2 report that the original fire had 3 simultaneous points of origin? That doesn't happen from a bonfire gone awry!
They are trying to cover it up.
That's "democracy" in Israel for you, Arabs are allowed to deny the Shoah and call for another one, while Jews aren't even allowed to talk about current events.