I think this will open up a huge can of worms. Imagine this scenario:Worse still is the fact that normal people serving will be subjected to the unwanted advances... As much as I did not like Bill Clinton the " Don't ask" policy worked well under the circumstances... This new legislation will now embolden homosexuals to be more brazen in their advances... People now in the military who struggle with the question of homosexuality are now force to live in close quarters with people who wish to seduce them into an unwanted situation...More normal people will be forced into situations of hostility... Whatever the case this will be an unneeded distraction for our military personel.
A homo asks another soldier he finds attractive to have sex with him. That soldier is offended and beats the homo up. Then the regular straight soldier gets charged with a hate crime, and the homo maybe even gets to sue for injuries received, when he's the one who caused the whole thing in the first place.
The problem with Don't Ask Don't tell wasn't the policy itself. It actually makes sense. There's no reason besides possible HIV-contaminated blood that a relatively masculine homosexual couldn't be a good soldier, and that allowed them to serve, just not openly. The problem with DADT was that it was a huge slippery slope. Now that even that wasn't good enough for the gay agenda, so we're going to see scandal, crimes, and outrageous demands for new special treatment of gays in the future.I am sure there are many very qualified gay personnel in the military... As my favorite expression goes "What people do on their own time is their business" ... Well not really as far as the military goes but many gay people serving in the military want nothing more then to be left to do the job they enlisted to do... It's the activist that are the real problem... As far as the risk factor for disease goes I think the military keeps close tabs on the people serving... I am sure they do enough preventive checkups that in most cases people with illness like HIV would not be in combat situations.
I fully expect them to request at some point to be able to be allowed to cross dress while off duty.
I think this will open up a huge can of worms. Imagine this scenario:More likely the propositioned soldier is outranked by the homosexual soldier. How well will he be able to function after turning down his commander's sexual advances?
A homo asks another soldier he finds attractive to have sex with him. That soldier is offended and beats the homo up. Then the regular straight soldier gets charged with a hate crime, and the homo maybe even gets to sue for injuries received, when he's the one who caused the whole thing in the first place.
It's a fact of life, nations come and go and the Jews are the only ancient nation outside of East Asia to still exist.
It's a fact of life, nations come and go and the Jews are the only ancient nation outside of East Asia to still exist.
And for 3000 years the Jewish people {at least the religiously observant} have not accepted Homosexual behavior. We don't believe, like the secular do, that the Torah was for then and now times are different. We believe Torah is eternal, although times change, the basics remain the same. We still must observe Shabbat, Kashrut, and sexual purity...
I also don't really are if America does go down the drain at this point. When I spoke with my mother the other day I told her I don't think America will still be around 50 years from now.
Men and women are separated in the military because they are sexually attracted to each other. Having men who are attracted to men integrated is the opposite of the common sense approach to the separation of men and women in the military... no?
@KL, the "most soldiers" who are not bothered by this statistic quoted in the media stems from a survey of only 6% of our total troops.
I also don't really are if America does go down the drain at this point. When I spoke with my mother the other day I told her I don't think America will still be around 50 years from now.Surely you don't really mean that about the nation you and your family choose to live in, and surely you know that this is the exact same thing the WNs say about America.
I also don't really are if America does go down the drain at this point. When I spoke with my mother the other day I told her I don't think America will still be around 50 years from now.Surely you don't really mean that about the nation you and your family choose to live in, and surely you know that this is the exact same thing the WNs say about America.
Let's pretend that 98% of Americans are evil (which they might be). That remaining 2% translates into very large numbers of righteous Gentiles and decent Jews, in the millions. Do you really want them to perish?
When I read something like this the word leech pops up in my mind... I big fat leech that sucks the blood from its host and then drops off when its had it's fill...America is not a flop house for people on the move.... I can see Jews wanting to return to Israel however Jews being born and raised here in America should have a bit more respect for Americas well being.It's a fact of life, nations come and go and the Jews are the only ancient nation outside of East Asia to still exist.
And for 3000 years the Jewish people {at least the religiously observant} have not accepted Homosexual behavior. We don't believe, like the secular do, that the Torah was for then and now times are different. We believe Torah is eternal, although times change, the basics remain the same. We still must observe Shabbat, Kashrut, and sexual purity...
I also don't really are if America does go down the drain at this point. When I spoke with my mother the other day I told her I don't think America will still be around 50 years from now.
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I also don't really are if America does go down the drain at this point. When I spoke with my mother the other day I told her I don't think America will still be around 50 years from now.
Surely you don't really mean that about the nation you and your family choose to live in, and surely you know that this is the exact same thing the WNs say about America.
Let's pretend that 98% of Americans are evil (which they might be). That remaining 2% translates into very large numbers of righteous Gentiles and decent Jews, in the millions. Do you really want them to perish?
No, of course not... But Hashem wants the Jews to get back into Israel before the final days. I am sure you know the prophecies, and it is not very pleasant for the nations of the world.
Within 50 years I hope that all of my family has made it safely back to Israel.
Exactly Dr. Dan, gays could serve just fine, legally, under "don't ask/don't tell". What they want is to BRAG about being sodomites and be worshipped for it.
Ha,The backbone seems to be getting a bit of Osteoporosis in it... My family has been here in America for well over a hundred years and we are not giving up on her yet... America still surpasses every country in the world even in it's present condition.
I hope you are not calling me and my family leeches. My entire family has been contributing to the well being of America since we came here over 100 years ago. My father was a patriot who fought for America in the 60s-70s while in the Army. My mother continues to work till this day helping people who have been layed-off in order to re-train them with skills which are needed by todays companies. I have worked since I was 15 years old in the computer industry, specifically the last 20 years in the field of digital video and my work has contributed a lot to the development of DVD and blu-ray players.
My father was a right-winger his entire life. Before he died I saw a letter he received from President Bush praising my fathers dedication to the Republican party.
We are nothing close to leeches... We are the back-bone of America, the middle-class, and the righteous Americans.
The fact that I foresee a future which is blighted is not my fault. It is not my fault that the gay agenda has been adopted by the left. It is not my fault, nor anyone in my family, that Obama was elected.
I have been a patriotic American all my life. I am just so ashamed that this country has fallen so far so fast. Without a turnaround I do see America going the route of ancient Rome...
I wish only good for this country. Several times here at JTF I have praised America and it's treatment of my family {compared to the devestation which occurred in Poland and Ukraine in the 1900s}.... As a Jew, HaKaret HaTov {Recognizing the Good} is always important. Obviously I owe America a lot for providing my family a refuge during a stormy century...
HaKarat HaTov: http://www.machonmeir.net/english/torah-lessons-archive?id=5044&layout=default&view=media