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Title: It's official! I got engaged ...
Post by: Yaacov Ben Yehuda on January 12, 2011, 03:00:29 AM
To an amazing Sephardic Israeli Baal Tshuvah :)

Thank You Hashem! He answered my prayer!

Making Aliyah in the spring to live in the Judean Hills  ;D
Title: Re: It's official! I got engaged ...
Post by: briann on January 12, 2011, 03:12:31 AM
To an amazing Sephardic Israeli Baal Tshuvah :)

Thank You Hashem! He answered my prayer!

Making Aliyah in the spring to live in the Judean Hills  ;D

Congratulations!!!  :dance:
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Post by: Mishmaat on January 12, 2011, 03:14:27 AM
Mazal tov!  :dance:
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Post by: Yaacov Ben Yehuda on January 12, 2011, 03:19:38 AM
Thanks guys! toda raba  :dance: may all of you also find your zivoogim if you havent yet!
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Post by: muman613 on January 12, 2011, 03:25:44 AM
Mazel Tov!


It is interesting I was listening to a shuir where the Rabbi explained the concept:

Making Shidduchs was as difficult for Hashem as parting the Sea of Reeds...

This is related to the Torah portion read this week, Parasha Beshalach, where Hashem parts the Sea of Reeds...

http://mobile.chabad.org/m/article_cdo/aid/600736

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In context of Jacob leaving Beersheba in order to find a wife – the Midrash states: "A person's marriage partner originates from no one else but G‑d," and cites sources in all three section of Tanach. "Sometimes a man goes to his designated mate (as it was with Jacob); sometimes his designated mate comes to him (as it was with Isaac)."

The Midrash then continues:

   Rabbi Yehudah bar Simon opened "G‑d sets the solitary into a family."1

    A Roman matron asked Rabbi Yosei bar Chalafta: "In how many days did G‑d create His world?"

    "In six days," he replied.

    "And what has He been doing ever since?" she asked.

    "G‑d sits and matches couples," Rabbi Yosei told her.

    "Is this G‑d's occupation?" she asked derisively, "I could do that too! I possess a great number of men servants and maid servants and would be able to pair all of them off in one hour!"

   "You may think it is easy, but for G‑d, it is as difficult as parting the Red Sea," he said.

    After Rabbi Yosei left, the matron formed rows of her men servants and maid servants, a thousand in each row, and said to them, "This man shall marry this woman," pairing them off as she walked down the line for the night.

    But when they returned to work the next morning, one had an injured head, one was missing an eye and one had a broken foot.

    "What is going on here?" the matron asked.

    "I don't want this one," they all said. She saying, "I will not take him"; he saying, "I will not take her."

    She sent for Rabbi Yosei and told him, "There is no G‑d like your G‑d. When you explained to me that G‑d is busy making matches, you spoke wisely." 2


The Talmud echoes this belief by stating that before a person is born G‑d designates his and her mate: "A heavenly voice emerges and calls out 'this woman to this man.'"3

On the other hand, the Talmud states that "a man and woman are paired to each other based on their merits."

How do we reconcile these two positions: Is marriage designated by Divine decree or is it based on a person's deeds and merits? Two answers are offered: One particular Talmud explains that the "first pairing" is by divine decree while the "second pairing" is based on a person's merits.4 And this is why "their pairing is difficult like the parting of the sea," because a match based on merits requires special effort to unite two people who were initially not naturally compatible.5 Another Talmud suggests a different answer: Though a natural match is initially made in heaven, human intervention – prayer – can override and change the Divine decree (even regarding the "first pairing"). Thus, "It is permitted to betroth a woman on Chol Hamoed because perhaps someone else will take her before him" due to his prayer's overriding the divine decree.6
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http://www.aish.com/tp/i/m/48910052.html?utm_source=mimi_aish_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Advanced+Parsha+-+Beshalach&utm_campaign=Advanced+Parsha+-+Beshalach&utm_term=Read+Article (http://www.aish.com/tp/i/m/48910052.html?utm_source=mimi_aish_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Advanced+Parsha+-+Beshalach&utm_campaign=Advanced+Parsha+-+Beshalach&utm_term=Read+Article)

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Beshalach(Exodus 13:17-17:16)
Oh! Say Can You See

The opinion of our Sages appears to be that the splitting of the Red Sea described in this week's Torah portion was a difficult miracle for God to pull off. Why else would they declare that it is as difficult for God to match people in marriage and to provide them with their livelihoods as it was for Him to split the sea?

    Raba bar Chana said in the name of R' Yochonon: It is as difficult to match them [two people in marriage] as the splitting of the sea ... (Talmud, Sotah 2a)

    R' Shizvi said in the name of R' Elazar the son of Azariah: It is as difficult to provide people with the necessities of life as it was to split the sea; as it is written, (in Psalms 136): "He provides bread to all flesh..." And an adjacent verse reads: "He divides the sea into sections..." (Talmud, Pesachim 118a)

How can we relate to the idea of God finds anything difficult? What does the splitting of the sea have in common with matchmaking or providing people with a living?
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Post by: eb22 on January 12, 2011, 03:26:59 AM
Congratulations on your engagement and your plans to move to the Judean Hills!     Great news!
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Post by: Yaakov Mendel on January 12, 2011, 03:54:54 AM
I'm so glad for you. Two fantastic news that will have a tremendous impact on your life.
Kol Tuv !
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Post by: Ulli on January 12, 2011, 04:26:15 AM
Congratulations  :)
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Post by: cjd on January 12, 2011, 04:42:35 AM
That's great news.... Congratulations!!  :dance:
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Post by: nessuno on January 12, 2011, 05:44:35 AM
Congratulations!
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Post by: Dr. Dan on January 12, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
 :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
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Post by: Dan on January 12, 2011, 07:04:43 AM
Congratulations!
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Post by: Lisa on January 12, 2011, 08:01:02 AM
Mazal tov!
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Post by: Rubystars on January 12, 2011, 08:15:04 AM
congratulations to both of you
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Post by: nopeaceforland on January 12, 2011, 08:53:42 AM
Mazel Tov!  :)
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Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 12, 2011, 09:46:31 AM
Wow that sounds like a dream come true!

Mazel tov Yakov
 :dance: :dance: :dance: :)
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Post by: Yaacov Ben Yehuda on January 12, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
Thank you to all!  ;D
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Post by: Dr. Dan on January 12, 2011, 05:16:38 PM
Thank you to all!  ;D

Nu?  When do we get to meet her?  ...on the forum that is.
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Post by: IsraelForever on January 12, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
Mazel Tov!
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Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 12, 2011, 10:50:25 PM
Mazel Tov!  What a blessing!  :dance: :dance: :dance: