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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: Daniel on June 03, 2007, 07:56:36 PM
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Scriabin, I was a little taken aback when I saw your question on this week's Ask JTF forum about your desire to execute pornographers? Why do you wish to execute them? Why not just ignore them?
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Yeah I would rather execute Muslims. The other guys don't kill anyone.
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While Pornography and pornographers are evil people, their averot do not merit the death penalty. Without question what they do is forbidden and will have to be banned once we come to power, but we dont kill people for it.
With the obvious exception of child pornographers, they should be killed.
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While Pornography and pornographers are evil people, their averot do not merit the death penalty. Without question what they do is forbidden and will have to be banned once we come to power, but we dont kill people for it.
With the obvious exception of child pornographers, they should be killed.
Chaim answered this question!
Listen to HIM!!!
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I think that Chaim is wrong for supporting execution of pornographers.
A simple whipping of 40 lashes would be a sufficient deterrent.
The Baba Sali's Beth Deen in Morrocco would whip people for lewd behavior, which is quite harsh.
No need to put them to death.
Just one Jew's opinion.
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I think that Chaim is wrong for supporting execution of pornographers.
As I said in the other thread on this subject, if everybody whom Chaim and Scriabin want executed were executed, this world would be a very uncrowded place.
Pornographers should go back into the closet with homosexuals and every other degenerate, where they should all be forced to listen to the music of Scriabin. ;D
And what's with this affection for Scriabin? (The composer, I mean, not the poster.) His music sucks!
He's worse than Bruckner, which is saying something. At least Bruckner composed one good piece, the famous scherzo of his 4th Symphony.
Nobody knows a single piece of Scriabin's crap - except Scriabin. ;D
And, Scriabin, shouldn't men who leave their faithful wives and their numerous children, to run off with younger women, also be flayed alive?
Scriabin married a pianist, Vera Ivanova Isakovich, after graduation and had several children, but he eventually left his wife and teaching position for a young pupil, Tatiana Fyodorovna Schloezer.... As an elderly man, [Vladimir] Horowitz remarked that Scriabin was obviously crazy, because he had tics and couldn't sit still.
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Touche...you obviously did your research on Wikipedia.
Yes, Scriabin was a sinner, but no pornographer. He contributed something GREAT to the world.
Yes, he was immoral and imperfect...what does this have to do with pornographers being executed?
By the way...thanks for comparing me with Chaim, this was a great compliment to me.
Your unlearned opinion of Scriabin's music makes no difference. Furthermore, your love of Bruckner proves your lack of taste.
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Personally, I think they (porn lords) defintely do deserve death. There is no doubt about it. What they do is NOT victimless. They take advantage of and destroy helpless young women with no skills in today's "market" (thanks to wonderful outsourcing, wetback labor, and affirmative action!) and live on human blood. I wouldn't mind shooting some pornographers myself if it were legal.
I don't think homosexuals should be put to death though, at least if they have not taken advantage of children/teens. They should be locked up in insane asylums until/unless they demonstrate a desire to recover.
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And, Scriabin, shouldn't men who leave their faithful wives and their numerous children, to run off with younger women, also be flayed alive?
I am not Scriabin, but isn't the answer obvious?
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I do think though that so-called mentally ill murderers still do need to die. We must uphold innocent human life at all costs, and most murderers try to play the insanity card in order to get off, after all.
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Porn as disgusting as it is, All you can do is ban it when a Kahanist government takes over. Child pornograhers, death. Imidiately
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People like Al Goldstein and Larry Flynt who peddle pornography to millions, and who destroy and corrupt the souls of millions, are monsters who deserve to be executed.
The porno industry is controlled by the same organized crime elements who are involved in illegal narcotics, gambling, prostitution and "protection" rackets.
They are involved in massive statutory rape because they frequently use underage girls and boys for their hideous films and magazines. And they often persuade these underage girls and boys to "experiment" with narcotics because they know that drug addicts will perform any sexual act for a "fix". Many of the "actors" in the porno industry are drug addicts and prostitutes.
Porno kingpins, like drug kingpins, who cause destruction on such a massive scale are more than worthy of the ultimate punishment.
What are the moral standards of these porno peddlers?
"I would deal with Hitler as long as the check cleared", is the infamous quote of Al Goldstein.
The anti-Semitic cartoons and pictures in Larry Flynt's publications are no different from the cartoons of Nazi Germany during the holocaust. The same is true for Goldstein and other pornographers.
The porno industry also produces a lot of sadomasochistic material in which the sadists wear Nazi uniforms and swastikas.
I think killing these beasts is too nice, but then again, I'm a moderate, so I'll settle for just killing them.
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People like Al Goldstein and Larry Flynt who peddle pornography to millions, and who destroy and corrupt the souls of millions, are monsters who deserve to be executed.
The porno industry is controlled by the same organized crime elements who are involved in illegal narcotics, gambling, prostitution and "protection" rackets.
They are involved in massive statutory rape because they frequently use underage girls and boys for their hideous films and magazines. And they often persuade these underage girls and boys to "experiment" with narcotics because they know that drug addicts will perform any sexual act for a "fix". Many of the "actors" in the porno industry are drug addicts and prostitutes.
Porno kingpins, like drug kingpins, who cause destruction on such a massive scale are more than worthy of the ultimate punishment.
What are the moral standards of these porno peddlers?
"I would deal with Hitler as long as the check cleared", is the infamous quote of Al Goldstein.
The anti-Semitic cartoons and pictures in Larry Flynt's publications are no different from the cartoons of Nazi Germany during the holocaust. The same is true for Goldstein and other pornographers.
The porno industry also produces a lot of sadomasochistic material in which the sadists wear Nazi uniforms and swastikas.
I think killing these beasts is too nice, but then again, I'm a moderate, so I'll settle for just killing them.
Good point Jimmy.
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Personally, I think they (porn lords) defintely do deserve death. There is no doubt about it. What they do is NOT victimless. They take advantage of and destroy helpless young women...
The biggest victims of porn are children. Can we even imagine what happens to a ten-year-old's mind when she, or especially he is subjected to this kind of evil? I can tell you, such children are NEVER the same again.
This is the destruction of innocence, and we cannot even begin to fathom the destructive effects of Pornography on children.
In my opinion, the porn stars are no different from the peddlers themselves...they are not victims. The children are the victims.
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I became hooked on porno at a young age. One time, I must have been about, oh 10 maybe, I found a mountain of porno books behind a trash bin near my apartment. I carefully smuggled them one at a time into my bedroom, I thought I struck gold. I believe that I became so inflamed by this stuff that along with the fact that no one ever told me about birds,bees,right or wrong, it was directly related to my having a wild sex affair with a 14 year old girl when I was 15, which resulted in a murdered fetus. So for all the murdered fetuses, kill the pornographers. Also, has anyone noticed people watching porno in public on these Sony PSPs? Several miggers at my job have porn-ready handhelds. This is going to cause an increase in sex crimes, I think. >:(
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If I were in government, I wouldn't have pornographers executed, as it hasn't been illegal yet, you can't execute people for doing something that hasn't yet been illegal, but I would bring in a ban on pornography, and set a certain time limit in which it must all destroyed, after that time limit, producing or distributing pornography would carry a hefty prison sentence.
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If I were in government, I wouldn't have pornographers executed, as it hasn't been illegal yet, you can't execute people for doing something that hasn't yet been illegal, but I would bring in a ban on pornography, and set a certain time limit in which it must all destroyed, after that time limit, producing or distributing pornography would carry a hefty prison sentence.
That's a good plan, except the end part should be death instead of prison.
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If I were in government, I wouldn't have pornographers executed, as it hasn't been illegal yet, you can't execute people for doing something that hasn't yet been illegal, but I would bring in a ban on pornography, and set a certain time limit in which it must all destroyed, after that time limit, producing or distributing pornography would carry a hefty prison sentence.
That's a good plan, except the end part should be death instead of prison.
I live in the UK, where we have banned the death penalty. We've also banned the use of the law against treason though so... (Yes the police are no longer allowed to charge someone with treason in the UK)
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If I were in government, I wouldn't have pornographers executed, as it hasn't been illegal yet, you can't execute people for doing something that hasn't yet been illegal, but I would bring in a ban on pornography, and set a certain time limit in which it must all destroyed, after that time limit, producing or distributing pornography would carry a hefty prison sentence.
That's a good plan, except the end part should be death instead of prison.
Right-on Allen!
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So just out of curiosity, Scriabin, are you in favor of executing the "actors" in the porn films as well, if they are not underage?
Some would say these people were forced into it, but I don't think that's always the case.
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So just out of curiosity, Scriabin, are you in favor of executing the "actors" in the porn films as well, if they are not underage?
Some would say these people were forced into it, but I don't think that's always the case.
Yes, of course. They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...
Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!
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If I were in government, I wouldn't have pornographers executed, as it hasn't been illegal yet, you can't execute people for doing something that hasn't yet been illegal
That isn't a really good rule of thumb. In Nazi Germany, it wasn't illegal to murder Jews. In present-day Israel, it practically isn't illegal for Arabs to murder Jews either.
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Yes, of course. They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...
Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!
Scriabin, I agree completely with the idea of executing pornographers, as well as a good number of the porno stars, but I don't think very many girls grow up wanting to be X-rated actresses. A few are degenerate from the get-go, but others spend their life's savings trying to get to Hollywood to get their big break, and when they find nothing and have no other "skills", it's basically either do this, or become a prostitute, or be homeless.
That is why I think women are the biggest victims of pornography of all--even more than children, even more than the families of porn-addicted husbands.
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Yes, of course. They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...
Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!
That is why I think women are the biggest victims of pornography of all--even more than children, even more than the families of porn-addicted husbands.
Porn is an offshoot, a side-effect of Women's Lib. The Feminists didn't necessarily plan it that way, but that's what happened.
I disagree. The psychological damage done to children that VIEW (I'm not talking about child porn) this stuff is immeasurable. We've only begun to see the fallout from this.
When Uday and Qusay Hussein were children, Saddam had them observe--up-close and personal--all manner of torture, murder, rape, execution...you name it. It must have 'worked', we know how they turned out.
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Yes, of course. They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...
Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!
Scriabin, I agree completely with the idea of executing pornographers, as well as a good number of the porno stars, but I don't think very many girls grow up wanting to be X-rated actresses. A few are degenerate from the get-go, but others spend their life's savings trying to get to Hollywood to get their big break, and when they find nothing and have no other "skills", it's basically either do this, or become a prostitute, or be homeless.
That is why I think women are the biggest victims of pornography of all--even more than children, even more than the families of porn-addicted husbands.
Victim-schmictim, men,women who go into porno are just greedy low-lifes. We are all victims. Boo-hoo.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.
From MSMBC, June 9, 2007:
"Sex offenders getting younger, more violent
Statistics show cases involving juveniles on the rise across United States"
Updated: 3:58 p.m. ET June 9, 2007
STOCKTON, Calif. - Courts have seen the number of sex offense cases involving juvenile offenders rise dramatically in recent years, an Associated Press review of national statistics found, and treatment professionals say the offenders are getting younger and the crimes more violent.
Some psychologists blame the increase in numbers — 40 percent over two decades — on a society saturated with sex and violence and the fact that many of the accused were themselves victims of adult sexual predators. Others say there aren’t more children committing such crimes, simply more awareness, better reporting and a general hysteria about sex offenders.
“I don’t think it’s appropriate to suggest we have whole schools full of sexual predators ... but we’re seeing more of it and more sexually aggressive acts,” said Scott Poland, past president of the National Association of School Psychologists. “How do these kids even know about this? It’s permeated throughout our society.”
Robert Prentky, a psychologist and nationally renowned expert on sex offenders in Bridgewater, Mass., thinks the statistics are misleading.
“There aren’t more kids, there are more laws,” he said. “We now have fairly draconian laws with very harsh sanctions that apply to juveniles.”
‘Adult offenders of tomorrow’
The number of children under 18 accused of forcible rape, violent and nonviolent sex offenses rose from 24,100 in 1985 to 33,800 in 2004, the AP’s analysis found. Violent offenses include attempted rape and sexual assault, while nonviolent offenses including fondling, statutory rape and prostitution.
By comparison, rape and sexual assaults by adults decreased more than 56 percent from 1993 to 2004. Comparable statistics were unavailable before 1993.
The AP analyzed state and federal crime statistics, as well as independent research on juvenile sex offenders. Sources included the U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics; the National Center for Juvenile Justice, a Pennsylvania-based nonprofit that specializes in statistical and policy research; and The Safer Society Foundation Inc., a Vermont nonprofit that works to prevent sexual abuse.
Sharon Araji, an Alaska psychologist who took one of the first broad looks at the problem in her book “Sexually Aggressive Children,” thinks the number of child-on-child sex crimes is actually even higher than the statistics indicate.
Only 28 percent of all violent sexual assaults are reported to police, according to a 1999 National Crime Victimization Survey. And cases of incest between siblings are widely thought to be underreported and may drive the numbers even higher, Araji says.
“The whole society is not yet up on this problem,” Araji said. “These kids, on the extreme end, if nothing is done to catch them, they’re going to become our adult offenders of tomorrow.”
Studies show that one in two sex offenders began their sexually abusive behavior as juveniles.
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The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
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The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
Yes, indeed.
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The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
You are exactly right!
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The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
Yes... like Victoria Secrets at the mall where every 3 year old kid can see nudity on their signs. That's seriously wrong. Or the billboards for strip clubs or porn shops off the highway. It's hard to believe we allow this.
I can't count how many time I saw YOUNG kids (5 or 6) watching nasty MTV rap videos and their parents not seeming to care or notice... I mean like in the middle of Target!
What's the difference between a corporate molester and a child molester? One takes no responsibility for their actions.
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So just out of curiosity, Scriabin, are you in favor of executing the "actors" in the porn films as well, if they are not underage?
Some would say these people were forced into it, but I don't think that's always the case.
Some want the attention and hope to become famous. If they're unable to get into a regular film, they see porn as a way of getting on screen and noticed. I think there have been some people who've gone from a role in a porn film to non-porn films.
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Yes, of course. They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...
Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!
That is why I think women are the biggest victims of pornography of all--even more than children, even more than the families of porn-addicted husbands.
Porn is an offshoot, a side-effect of Women's Lib. The Feminists didn't necessarily plan it that way, but that's what happened.
I disagree. The psychological damage done to children that VIEW (I'm not talking about child porn) this stuff is immeasurable. We've only begun to see the fallout from this.
When Uday and Qusay Hussein were children, Saddam had them observe--up-close and personal--all manner of torture, murder, rape, execution...you name it. It must have 'worked', we know how they turned out.
I don't think there's a consensus among feminists. Don't some argue that porn oppresses and objectifies women--causes men to view them as only sex objects-- while others argue that it liberates them?
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The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
There are always commercials about viagra.