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Title: US Secretly Backed Plans for Revolt in Egypt! (For 3 years)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 30, 2011, 10:18:18 AM
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142023

WikiLeaks: US Secretly Backed Plans for Rebellion in Egypt
 
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

The United States in the past last three years supported ‘democracy activists” who planned to overthrow the Mubarak regime, according to leaked cables quoted by the London Telegraph.

“[Unidentified activist] expressed satisfaction with the December 3-5 ‘Alliance of Youth Movements Summit’ in New York, noting that he was able to meet activists from other countries and outline his movement's goals for democratic change in Egypt,” stated one cable by U.S. Ambassador to Egypt Margaret Scobey. “He told us that the other activists at the summit were very supportive, and that some even offered to hold public demonstrations in support of Egyptian democracy in their countries.”

The embassy helped keep the identity of the dissident secret from Egyptian police, the Telegraph said, but he has been arrested in the recent demonstrations.

The leaked documents reveal that Scobey sent a cable to the Secretary of State two years ago, in which she wrote, “April 6 activist on his US visit and regime change in Egypt.” She added that embassy sources said the plan for “a transition to a parliamentary democracy [was] “so sensitive it cannot be written down.”

Scobey cautioned that she thought the plot was unrealistic, but contact was maintained with the activist, who was a principle source for information for Egyptian abuse of human rights.

Reporters have frequently questioned the State Department about American aid to Egypt in light of constant reports, including those by the American government, that the country routinely suppresses human rights and violates freedom of expression.

The leaked document, along with President Obama’s tepid criticism of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak Saturday night have set off more criticism of his foreign policies.

“The harsh reality of events in the Middle East have all decisively proven that the assumptions that underpinned President Obama's Middle East policy initiatives were wrong,” wrote Foreign Policy.com’s Peter Feaver Saturday.

“The foreign policy team seems to be quite uncertain how to proceed and with good reason: our ability to predict what will happen is probably even less than our ability to shape what will happen.”

(IsraelNationalNews.com)
Title: Re: US Secretly Backed Plans for Revolt in Egypt! (For 3 years)
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 30, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
On the one hand, US aid goes to the Egyptian army to become bloated.  On the other, if a new more hateful regime comes along, the US could be more reluctant to give any aid...

But then again, let them all kill each other...unfortunately, the Egyptian army is aiding the protesters.
Title: Re: US Secretly Backed Plans for Revolt in Egypt! (For 3 years)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 30, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
US aid will NOT stop.   They will rationalize the new regime, even if it's Islamist, as somehow being America's friend and in america's interest to support.   Even if that means conceptually "partitioning" the regime (as in Lebanon) into so-called factions whereby one faction is the western-friendly ally trying to put down the other faction - the Islamists - and therefore we need to Strengthen the regime or strengthen the "democratic" faction against the Hamas brotherhood faction with the military aid to keep moslem brother hood "out of power" even though in reality they are in power already.     

This is what happened with Hezbollah.   I think people have many illusions about what is going to happen here, but in the end, the ONLY way, is for Israel to act alone, against the will of the world, to defeat its enemies.   US will still support even an al qaeda regime in Egypt.