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Title: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 30, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
New polls show that US Latinos rank amongst the worst anti-Israel citizens in America. It also appears that Latinos are some of the worst anti-semites we have in America. At this time I think it would be a wise idea to ship all the illegal immigrants back to mexico where they belong. If they are going to increase antisemitism in these United States they are bringing calamity to this country.

Maybe these mexican creeps should worry about the gang warfare going on in their own backwater country before they point fingers at Israel. May Hashem rain down punishment on the wicked latinos...



http://www.jewishjournal.com/community/article/poll_latinos_believe_us_too_supportive_of_israel_20110330/
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A new poll by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding (FFEU) finds that nearly half of U.S. Latinos feel that their country is too supportive of Israel. The findings also suggest high levels of anti-Semitism exist in the U.S. Latino community.

Of the 740 people from across the country contacted by phone in early March, half were Latino and half were Jewish. All were asked the same questions.

Forty-six percent of Latino respondents (and 58 percent of Jewish ones) agreed that “anti-Semitism exists in the Latino community.” Smaller numbers of Latinos and Jews (32 and 30 percent, respectively) said “anti-Latino sentiment exists in the Jewish community.”

“We’ve not done our jobs in terms of fostering the alliance between Jews and Latinos,” said Rabbi Marc Schneier, president of FFEU, a New York-based nonprofit. Schneier said the study also showed a failure of American Jews to convey to Latinos the centrality of Israel for Jews and its importance for American foreign policy.
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http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/03/30/3086626/disparities-between-jews-latinos-on-israel

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Many Latinos see U.S. bias toward Israel, poll shows

March 30, 2011

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Nearly half of Latinos believe that the United States is "too supportive" of Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, a new poll shows.

That was among the findings of a poll released this week by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding showing broad disparities between the American Jewish and Latino communities when it comes to U.S. involvement in the peace process.

The poll shows that 48.1 percent of Latinos believe the United States is "too supportive" of Israel, while only 14.8 percent of Jewish respondents believed that to be true.

Among Latinos, 18.6 percent described the United States as "not supportive enough" and 55.6 percent of Jews adopted that position. Those who answered the "right level" were 21.7 percent among Latinos and 26.5 percent among Jews.

Asked with which side they sympathized more, 34 percent of Latinos said Israel, as opposed to 77 percent of Jews, and 21.3 of Latinos said the Palestinians, as opposed to 10.9 percent of Jews.

Small percentages in both populations said "neither" or "both," and 28.2 percent of Latinos did not know or would not respond, as opposed to 3.3 percent of Jews.

Other questions on Jewish-Latino relations drew narrower gaps: 46.3 percent of Latinos believed there was anti-Semitism in the Latino community, as did 58.3 percent of Jews.

When the question was flipped, Latinos and Jews were virtually tied -- 31.9 percent and 30 percent, respectively -- in believing there was anti-Latino sentiment among Jews.
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Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: mord on March 30, 2011, 03:28:50 PM
Actually i saw that and found it strange many Latinos who are 3rd and 4th Generation i find friendly to Jews maybe it depends what country they come from
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: TheCoon on March 30, 2011, 04:35:45 PM
They come from far-left socialist countries and on top of that you mix in the old-world Catholic attitudes. They're also uneducated morons for the most part like most third-worlders that come to America.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 30, 2011, 05:46:38 PM
And American Jews do everything to help them and protect them. 
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on March 30, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
I'm surprised.  I've met quite a few hardcore Latino Israel supporters.  Those on the academic Left, yes, I can believe it: totally
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 30, 2011, 08:59:53 PM
But no blacks, who you boast about giving money to and urge all Jews to support, are anti-Semitic. Yeah.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Meerkat on March 30, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
i remember seeing a survey

i was done by the ADL so a potentially high degree of skepticism is needed

it said 20% of whites are jew-haters
30-35% of blacks
40% of foreign born latinos
20% of US-born latinos.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 30, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
i remember seeing a survey

i was done by the ADL so a potentially high degree of skepticism is needed

it said 20% of whites are jew-haters
30-35% of blacks
40% of foreign born latinos
20% of US-born latinos.
All of those are gross underestimates but the worst underestimate is the one for blacks. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing the GayDL (or Arab Defense League) says.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Meerkat on March 30, 2011, 09:21:50 PM
All of those are gross underestimates but the worst underestimate is the one for blacks. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing the GayDL (or Arab Defense League) says.

do you think they used a crappy methodology or just flat out fudged the data?
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 30, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
But no blacks, who you boast about giving money to and urge all Jews to support, are anti-Semitic. Yeah.

TBF, your exaggerations are never-ending. I never said that anyone should support blacks or latinos. If I remember the original discussion it was concerning whether one should give charity to people who are begging. I said that we should give charity to those in need unless they are our enemy.

Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 30, 2011, 09:48:21 PM
TBF, your exaggerations are never-ending. I never said that anyone should support blacks or latinos. If I remember the original discussion it was concerning whether one should give charity to people who are begging. I said that we should give charity to those in need unless they are our enemy.
If by "exaggerating" you mean "reciting exactly what you have written", then I've exaggerated indeed. I know you don't give a damn about anything JTF stands for, but most of us do.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 30, 2011, 10:11:01 PM
If by "exaggerating" you mean "reciting exactly what you have written", then I've exaggerated indeed. I know you don't give a damn about anything JTF stands for, but most of us do.

You know nothing but bad-mouthing Jews... That you are very good at...

Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 30, 2011, 10:13:35 PM
And American Jews do everything to help them and protect them.  

 :::D

Well played.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 30, 2011, 10:18:49 PM
I do whatever I can to get rid of the illegal mexicans in my state. I'm pretty sick from living like im in little Tijuana...
 

Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: briann on March 30, 2011, 11:50:40 PM
Mexicans are the second most Anti-Jew group (behind blacks of course)

I dont remember the exact numbers, it was a poll from a few years back, but I think around 20% of Mexican Americans have negative attitudes towards Jews (Closer to 30% for Blacks)  and whites are at 8%.

Its unfortunate, the darker the skin, the more likley the group hates Jews.  Of course there are many exceptions.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 31, 2011, 12:37:22 AM
Mexicans are the second most Anti-Jew group (behind blacks of course)

I dont remember the exact numbers, it was a poll from a few years back, but I think around 20% of Mexican Americans have negative attitudes towards Jews (Closer to 30% for Blacks)  and whites are at 8%.

Its unfortunate, the darker the skin, the more likley the group hates Jews.  Of course there are many exceptions.


Oh I think those percentage numbers are higher than that.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: briann on March 31, 2011, 01:48:55 AM
Oh I think those percentage numbers are higher than that.

Well, this poll was to find out if they were openly hatefully of Jews.... and its probably underestimated.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 31, 2011, 02:06:47 PM
Mexicans are the second most Anti-Jew group (behind blacks of course)

I dont remember the exact numbers, it was a poll from a few years back, but I think around 20% of Mexican Americans have negative attitudes towards Jews (Closer to 30% for Blacks)  and whites are at 8%.

Its unfortunate, the darker the skin, the more likley the group hates Jews.  Of course there are many exceptions.


Yeah

I guess the Jews stole the southwest.

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: The proud Jew on March 31, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
This is strange, alot of mexican immiigrants I have met in this country were very nice to me and can see the  kipot on my head. they were nice to me, I always thought that they were pro israel.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Eden Ben Yitzchak on March 31, 2011, 05:39:39 PM
I think it's wrong to generalize, I have some friends from Brazil, Mexico and Venezuela who are not Jewish and they're strong supporters of Israel. I agree though, that the vast majority of these nations are anti-Israel and anti-America, but not all......
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: danny100 on March 31, 2011, 05:55:52 PM
In other words, according to the poll Muman provided, 40.5% of Latinos believe that America is either rightly supportive of Israel, or not Supportive enough.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 31, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
I do whatever I can to get rid of the illegal mexicans in my state. I'm pretty sick from living like im in little Tijuana...
You just want the United States and Israel to look like Little Lagos.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 31, 2011, 06:57:29 PM
Mexicans are the second most Anti-Jew group (behind blacks of course)

I dont remember the exact numbers, it was a poll from a few years back, but I think around 20% of Mexican Americans have negative attitudes towards Jews (Closer to 30% for Blacks)  and whites are at 8%.

Its unfortunate, the darker the skin, the more likley the group hates Jews.  Of course there are many exceptions.

Yes. I think that your estimations are correct. But the figures for every race are severely low. Mexicans are the most left-wing and evil of all Hispanics, but blacks still have them beat.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 31, 2011, 07:11:44 PM
Yes. I think that your estimations are correct. But the figures for every race are severely low. Mexicans are the most left-wing and evil of all Hispanics, but blacks still have them beat.
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Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 31, 2011, 07:19:35 PM
nah, I hate Puerto Ricans more (except for the ones in the MLB). They are too loud and always playing Puerto Rican (c)rap. Mexicans, at least, have contributed tacos, those large, funny hats, and a lot drugs :laugh:.  But seriously, if not for Hispanics, who would mop the U.S. floors, clean the toilets, and work in kitchens? At least they aren't like the Arabs in Israel who do all that work for Jews AND kill them.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: nessuno on March 31, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
I do whatever I can to get rid of the illegal mexicans in my state. I'm pretty sick from living like im in little Tijuana...
 


What exactly do you do?
Spray them with RAID.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: cjd on March 31, 2011, 07:31:15 PM
You just want the United States and Israel to look like Little Lagos.
Little Lagos actually looks good from a distance  :::D
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46187000/jpg/_46187943_mead_226.jpg)
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: cjd on March 31, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
nah, I hate Puerto Ricans more (except for the ones in the MLB). They are too loud and always playing Puerto Rican (c)rap. Mexicans, at least, have contributed tacos, those large, funny hats, and a lot drugs :laugh:.  But seriously, if not for Hispanics, who would mop the U.S. floors, clean the toilets, and work in kitchens? At least they aren't like the Arabs in Israel who do all that work for Jews AND kill them.
The crime statistics on Mexicans here in America for the most part prove they are more trouble then they are worth... Besides soon a lot of American people will be more then happy to get one of them toilet or kitchen jobs... How long can the government keep giving out endless unemployment benefits.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 31, 2011, 07:56:06 PM
What exactly do you do?
Spray them with RAID.

No, I hope it doesnt come to that. I try to support anti-Illegal immigrant politicians {though there are not many in CA}... I am hoping that the initiatives of AZ come to CA in order to get rid of the illegal labor markets.

Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: cjd on March 31, 2011, 08:01:07 PM
What exactly do you do?
Spray them with RAID.
No we need to be politically correct here there is a better way to restore the neighborhood... Someone told me about a grandfather who got sick and tired of the illegals taking over the school yard soccer field each weekend and messing up the place that belonged to school kids...  He had an ICE (immigration and Customs Enforcement) shirt made up and would go up and stand by the school yard fence with a camera... This worked so well at getting rid of the illegals that the guy was tempted to visit some of the other schools in the neighborhood to clear them out also.  :::D
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: White Israelite on March 31, 2011, 09:46:22 PM
I know Latinos that are pro Israel. One of my best friends is of Mexican descent and he loves Israel, his family does too. I also know people from Colombia who are pro Israel and Colombia gets a lot of weapons from Israel. Panama still refuses to recognize Palestine but yet recognizes Israel. I know many people here in my area who are military who are hispanic from Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico and Central America who support Israel.

I went to Mexico a month ago and didn't have any problems, I still think illegal immigration is an issue though.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on March 31, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
I know Latinos that are pro Israel. One of my best friends is of Mexican descent and he loves Israel, his family does too. I also know people from Colombia who are pro Israel and Colombia gets a lot of weapons from Israel. Panama still refuses to recognize Palestine but yet recognizes Israel. I know many people here in my area who are military who are hispanic from Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico and Central America who support Israel.

I went to Mexico a month ago and didn't have any problems, I still think illegal immigration is an issue though.

So you are saying that the poll which I posted is wrong? I don't know...
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: The proud Jew on March 31, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
Most hispanics i met are also are very pro israel. But the drug cartels have a partnership with hizbullah so those hispanics are vile criminal thugs.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3910808,00.html
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 31, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
So you are saying that the poll which I posted is wrong? I don't know...
Show me where in the world he said that. But any "poll" done by your hero Ibrahim Foxman is a lie.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 31, 2011, 11:44:27 PM
No we need to be politically correct here there is a better way to restore the neighborhood... Someone told me about a grandfather who got sick and tired of the illegals taking over the school yard soccer field each weekend and messing up the place that belonged to school kids...  He had an ICE (immigration and Customs Enforcement) shirt made up and would go up and stand by the school yard fence with a camera... This worked so well at getting rid of the illegals that the guy was tempted to visit some of the other schools in the neighborhood to clear them out also.  :::D

 :::D
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: muman613 on April 01, 2011, 01:36:18 AM
Show me where in the world he said that. But any "poll" done by your hero Ibrahim Foxman is a lie.

This poll was not done by Abe Foxman... Sometimes it helps if you spend the time and read the original posting. It was done by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding. Here is a link to their webpage and you can see who is behind the poll... https://www.ffeu.org/about_us.htm . This group appears to be progressive in pushing inter-faith programs {which I don't agree with}... But that would mean that they would want to make the relations better between groups.

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A new poll by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding (FFEU) finds that nearly half of U.S. Latinos feel that their country is too supportive of Israel. The findings also suggest high levels of anti-Semitism exist in the U.S. Latino community.

I came across this story via google news and it seems that it has been published in several papers and on several websites.

I really don't know why you bring up Abe Foxman regarding this story.

Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: IsraelForever on April 01, 2011, 02:52:53 AM
I'll bet plenty of anti-Semites, when answering a poll, don't give away their true negative feelings about Jews. 
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Rubystars on April 01, 2011, 07:12:46 AM
I do whatever I can to get rid of the illegal mexicans in my state. I'm pretty sick from living like im in little Tijuana...

That won't end just by getting rid of 'illegal' ones. It only takes two illegals to have a giant family there all speaking Spanish and identifying with Mexican, not American culture. And you know what? All those little kids are "American citizens" with voting rights and the ability to advocate for their real home country.

The solution the politicians offer is to make all the illegals legal. The problem there is of course, that they still all stay here! Without massive streamlined deportations, the situation will not change for the better no matter what at this point. Also there needs to be a way to stop those anchor babies from gaining citizenship.

I think at least one parent should have to be an American citizen for a child to have citizenship here.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: mord on April 01, 2011, 08:16:48 AM
This poll was not done by Abe Foxman... Sometimes it helps if you spend the time and read the original posting. It was done by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding. Here is a link to their webpage and you can see who is behind the poll... https://www.ffeu.org/about_us.htm . This group appears to be progressive in pushing inter-faith programs {which I don't agree with}... But that would mean that they would want to make the relations better between groups.

I came across this story via google news and it seems that it has been published in several papers and on several websites.

I really don't know why you bring up Abe Foxman regarding this story.


O.K. the foundation's head is  Marc Schneier i don't want to say Lashon hara here but look the fraud up in wikipedia
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Rubystars on April 01, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
No we need to be politically correct here there is a better way to restore the neighborhood... Someone told me about a grandfather who got sick and tired of the illegals taking over the school yard soccer field each weekend and messing up the place that belonged to school kids...  He had an ICE (immigration and Customs Enforcement) shirt made up and would go up and stand by the school yard fence with a camera... This worked so well at getting rid of the illegals that the guy was tempted to visit some of the other schools in the neighborhood to clear them out also.  :::D

We need more people like him out there. I just hope he doesn't get shot.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Rubystars on April 01, 2011, 08:57:04 AM
You know what's really screwed up about this? The politicians see an "American citizen" anchor baby as having exactly the same worth as an actual American. To them, you're both constituents of equal value that they have to please and answer to, even if one is completely loyal to a foreign power.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Mishmaat on April 01, 2011, 01:50:28 PM
What exactly do you do?
Spray them with RAID.

 :::D

La cucaracha, la cucaracha, ya no puede caminar...
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Mishmaat on April 01, 2011, 02:16:52 PM
But seriously, if not for Hispanics, who would mop the U.S. floors, clean the toilets, and work in kitchens? At least they aren't like the Arabs in Israel who do all that work for Jews AND kill them.

Poverty stricken whites and poverty stricken U.S. citizens in general who are willing to work. It would relieve the burden of paying for a large number of social programs. Also, young teenagers who are legal citizens and who can secure a work permit. Let them do those jobs. I don't want to provide an economic cushion for people who are here illegally.
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on April 01, 2011, 03:29:32 PM
Poverty stricken whites and poverty stricken U.S. citizens in general who are willing to work. It would relieve the burden of paying for a large number of social programs. Also, young teenagers who are legal citizens and who can secure a work permit. Let them do those jobs. I don't want to provide an economic cushion for people who are here illegally.

A men to that!!!
Title: Re: What is wrong with Latinos? Overwhelmingly Anti-Israel
Post by: eb22 on April 03, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
Here's one Latino who certainly is an outright Anti-Semite.    He doesn't even attempt to separate Jews from Zionists:

http://www.youtube.com/user/thegreatfearblog#p/f