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Title: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:20:59 PM
I'm not a Christian or Jewish.

We are in the End of Times and the New World Order is the old "Satanic" bloodlines from Egypt, Babylon and Sumeria.

They have turned non Jews against the Jewish people, because they know, if the Jews are left alone from all the haters, they will turn this planet into a paradise and worldwide Shalom. The Jews are a very strong, spiritual and loving people, that know if we serve humanity, we create a paradise, instead of serving our ego what leads to hell.

The moment the Jews wake up to the New World Order and what they really are and not get detracted by the Jew haters and Hamas, they will stop the New World Order.

We non Jews have to protect the Jewish people and Israel, so they can do their thing!

We will not have any fear in the End of Times, when we know the truth and have G-d(true love) in our hearts.

More about Lucifers deception:
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,56624.0.html
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 08, 2011, 09:24:43 PM
Why does this not seem totally kosher?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:32:57 PM
I don't know? Why is it not kosher?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 08, 2011, 09:34:24 PM
Why does this not seem totally kosher?

I agree with the fight anti-Semitism part but this guy seems rather like this religion is worship of Jews rather than anything else which I find kind of bizarre. Plus there are people of all types involved in the NWO, it's not all a bunch of evil Sumerians. None of that post makes much sense.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 08, 2011, 09:39:20 PM
I don't know? Why is it not kosher?

Do you think someone like George Soros should be left alone to do his thing? I sure don't. That's not anti-Semitism that's just common sense to oppose someone like that.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 09:41:44 PM
If you are not Christian or Jewish where do you learn your 'end times' scenario from? It is an essential question to try to understand where you are coming from...

BTW The Jews have a different End of Days scenario than the Christians... We are not the same religion and have many theological differences.

Also another question is why you use the name of a Greco-Roman G-d?
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Neptune (Latin: Neptūnus) was the god of water and the sea[1] in Roman mythology and religion. He is analogous with, but not identical to, the Greek god Poseidon. In the Greek-influenced tradition, Neptune was the brother of Jupiter and Pluto, each of them presiding over one of the three realms of the universe, Heaven, Earth and the Netherworld. Depictions of Neptune in Roman mosaics, especially those of North Africa, are influenced by Hellenistic conventions.[2]
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
I do not worship Jews and I do not have a religion other than my own.

I'm a hardcore truth seeker. I even thought Israel was the aggressor, before I woke up to the Anti-Israeli conspiracy done by those from Gaza and the western Mainstream media.

I see the Jewish as a very strong and beautiful people that know about serving humanity leads to global Shalom.

Sure there are many different types in the New World Order. I have talked with several of them.
Most people do not know the entire agenda of the New World Order, so they go along with it, because they think it is a good thing.

New World Order is a reaction of humanity ignoring the truth and not serve humanity instead of their ego. We are allowing it to happen and if we do not stand up to it and not go along with it, it will be hell on earth with a 1 world government, 1 world central bank and digital currency where you can't buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

80-90% population reduction and total big brother.

WW3 created by the Muslim Brotherhood attacking Israel etc.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 09:49:27 PM
I do not worship Jews and I do not have a religion other than my own.

I'm a hardcore truth seeker. I even thought Israel was the aggressor, before I woke up to the Anti-Israeli conspiracy done by those from Gaza and the western Mainstream media.

I see the Jewish as a very strong and beautiful people that know about serving humanity leads to global Shalom.

Sure there are many different types in the New World Order. I have talked with several of them.
Most people do not know the entire agenda of the New World Order, so they go along with it, because they think it is a good thing.

New World Order is a reaction of humanity ignoring the truth and not serve humanity instead of their ego. We are allowing it to happen and if we do not stand up to it and not go along with it, it will be hell on earth with a 1 world government, 1 world central bank and digital currency where you can't buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

80-90% population reduction and total big brother.

WW3 created by the Muslim Brotherhood attacking Israel etc.


JTF in NO WAY supports this New World Order.... We seek to bring about the Redemption of the Jewish people according to the scriptures of the Prophets of the Children of Israel. Any other mission is secondary to this... We do not want a one world government other than the Kingdom of Hashem, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth...


PS: What is this 'mark of the beast' BS? That is obviously NOT a Jewish concept at all... The terms you are using indicate to me that you are a messianic christian.... We do not allow missionizing at JTF...

And excuse me for being rude but you only believe things that you make up yourself rather than learning? That is pretty idolatrous to me..

Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:53:13 PM

JTF in NO WAY supports this New World Order.... We seek to bring about the Redemption of the Jewish people according to the scriptures of the Prophets of the Children of Israel. Any other mission is secondary to this... We do not want a one world government other than the Kingdom of Hashem, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth...


PS: What is this 'mark of the beast' BS? That is obviously NOT a Jewish concept at all...



That is what I say. Jews are the total opposite of the Satanic New World Order. The moment Jews wake up to the New World Order and understand New World Order controls the western mainstream media and spread lies about Israel and are pro Gaza, then Jews will organize and say no to the New World Order.

Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:54:59 PM
Do you think someone like George Soros should be left alone to do his thing? I sure don't. That's not anti-Semitism that's just common sense to oppose someone like that.

I know about George Soros and what he has done. He worked with the Nazis and is also part of the New World Order.

He has fallen to the dark side!

I do not support him of course.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 09:55:03 PM
That is what I say. Jews are the total opposite of the Satanic New World Order. The moment Jews wake up to the New World Order and understand  they control the western mainstream media and spread lies about Israel and are pro Gaza, then Jews will organize and say no to the New World Order.



Religious Jews cannot have any allegiance to anything other than G-d, the master of Creation. JTF attempts to attract zionistic Jews, righteous zionistic Christians, and all those who want to assist the righteous Jews to repopulate the Holy Land.

What is your intention for joining JTF?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
My intention is to wake people up to the New World Order so we can say no to these Satanic types wanting to play everybody against each other. We are in the End of Times!
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:01:54 PM
My intention is to wake people up to the New World Order so we can say no to these Satanic types wanting to play everybody against each other. We are in the End of Times!

You did not answer my question about End of Times? What do you mean by this? If you are not a Jew then you are talking about the Christian end of times... It is not clear... Maybe you are sincere but at this time I cannot say I agree with you.

The NWO is no more dangerous than any other faction which rises against the Jewish people. According to Jewish belief any evil which rises against the Jewish people will be destroyed when Moshiach arrives.

Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
You did not answer my question about End of Times? What do you mean by this? If you are not a Jew then you are talking about the Christian end of times... It is not clear... Maybe you are sincere but at this time I cannot say I agree with you.

The NWO is no more dangerous than any other faction which rises against the Jewish people. According to Jewish belief any evil which rises against the Jewish people will be destroyed when Moshiach arrives.


I'm not Jewish or Christian as I wrote. I have my own belief system. I do believe in G-d(True love) and I have researched New World Order for over 10 years. I have also talked with several from the New World Order.

I know the Luciferian mindset and what they are up to. They are indeed creating the End of times. What do you think is going on with the economy at the moment or the Arab "revolutions"?

Official EU poster on the right.
(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/babylonEU4.jpg)

The Satanic New World Order agenda spelled out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo6V3gG0UZ4&feature=channel_video_title
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:21:58 PM
I'm not Jewish or Christian as I wrote. I have my own belief system. I do believe in G-d(True love) and I have researched New World Order for over 10 years. I have also talked with several from the New World Order.

I know the Luciferian mindset and what they are up to. They are indeed creating the End of times. What do you think is going on with the economy at the moment or the Arab "revolutions"?

Official EU poster.
(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/babylonEU4.jpg)


What in tarnations is a Luciferian mindset? We Jews have no such concept of a 'Lucifer' or a 'Devil' as you seem to understand... If you are talking about the Yetzer Hara {or the heavenly prosecutor called HaSatan} then you must understand that there is a difference...

Indeed it is wicked for the EU to attempt to rebuild the Tower of Babel.... Hashem smashed it because people were trying to garner more power than they thought Hashem had {But we all know that NO MAN is capable of even approaching Hashem who is INFINITE, OMNIPOTENT, and INDIVISIBLE}.

http://www.aish.com/tp/b/lp/48955856.html
http://www.darchenoam.org/articles/parsha/ar_noach_babel.htm
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 08, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
I say give this person a chance.  Let's just give it time and let's see where this goes.  I agree with everyone there are several potentially problematic belief systems at play here, but I dont see any necessarily overt trouble making behavior just yet
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:31:32 PM
What in tarnations is a Luciferian mindset? We Jews have no such concept of a 'Lucifer' or a 'Devil' as you seem to understand... If you are talking about the Yetzer Hara {or the heavenly prosecutor called HaSatan} then you must understand that there is a difference...



Lucifer/Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan).

He tests our soul and if we don't listen to G-d's silent voice in our heart, we will be tempted by ha-Satan on the wrong path where we will be lost in pain and worship our ego.

New World Order is testing humanity and no one is being forced to give up freedom for safety that will lead into a Fascistic 1 world government.

Who is forcing this family into the voting booth for fascism and allowing to be stripped of freedom by this social engeneering machine?
(http://www.anunews.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/aa-naked-body-scanners-line-leading-up-to-one.jpg)
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:31:41 PM
I say give this person a chance.  Let's just give it time and let's see where this goes.  I agree with everyone there are several potentially problematic belief systems at play here, but I dont see any necessarily overt trouble making behavior just yet

I say TROLL
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:32:58 PM
I say TROLL

I do not understand all this hostility??
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:33:45 PM
Lucifer/Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan).

He tests our soul and if we don't listen to G-d silent voice in our heart, we will be tempted by ha-Satan on the wrong path where we will be lost in pain and worship our ego.

New World Order is testing humanity and no one is being forced to give up freedom for safety that will lead into a Fascistic 1 world government.

Who is forcing this family into the voting booth for fascism and allowing to be stripped of freedom by this social engeneering machine?
(http://www.anunews.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/aa-naked-body-scanners-line-leading-up-to-one.jpg)

You must understand that we don't believe that there is any power outside of Hashem... There is no Devil, No Lucifer... The HaSatan is the prosecutor in the heavenly tribunal {after we die}... We also believe in a Yetzer Hara which is a component of HaSatan but it is an internal voice which tempts us to go against the command of Hashem...

There is NOTHING which is capable of defeating Hashem.... That is one big difference between other religions and Judaism...
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 08, 2011, 10:34:07 PM
I do not understand all this hostility??

Hello Ralph. It's been a while hasn't it???


Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
I do not understand all this hostility??

ALEX JONES IS A 9/11 TRUTHER BUDDY!

He believes it was carried out by Zionist Jews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52fm6zAHa-w

http://www.infowars.com/feds-attempting-to-entrap-truthers/
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 08, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
ALEX JONES IS A 9/11 TRUTHER BUDDY!

He believes it was carried out by Zionist Jews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52fm6zAHa-w

You're right. Alex Jones is a Nazi but Neptun refuses to admit it.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:38:53 PM
ALEX JONES IS A 9/11 TRUTHER BUDDY!

He believes it was carried out by Zionist Jews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52fm6zAHa-w

http://www.infowars.com/feds-attempting-to-entrap-truthers/
I do not believe it is a ZIONIST conspiracy at all. I believe it is a Satanic conspiracy and the Jews have been attacked by this old Satanic bloodline for a very long time.

Why is Alex Jones being attacked by the Anti-Semitics calling him a Zionist agent?
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 08, 2011, 10:42:48 PM
While looking for references I came across so much BS that it makes me angry....

I've had it with this thread.... Someone else can reply to this...

PS: Enemies of the Jews pre-date any NWO talk.... The traditional enemies are still the true enemies... This includes the Muslims and those who hate G-d. The NWO will not bring anything new to this battle.... I continue to view my enemy as Islam and Nazism.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 08, 2011, 10:44:14 PM
I do not believe it is a ZIONIST conspiracy at all. I believe it is a Satanic conspiracy and the Jews have been attacked by this old Satanic bloodline for a very long time.

Whatever you say, Ralph. However he is still an antisemitic piece of garbage who blamed the Jews for 9/11.


  
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:48:01 PM
Whatever you say, Ralph. However he is still an antisemitic piece of garbage who blamed the Jews for 9/11.


  

New World Order is not a Zionist, Jewish or Israeli conspiracy at all. If it was why would they create an Arab  "revolution" so the Muslim Brotherhood can get into power and join together and go after Israel?

Why would the Western mainstream media in Europe be pro Gaza?

Why would the New World Order puppet Obama push for the fake Gaza peace?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:50:37 PM
While looking for references I came across so much BS that it makes me angry....

I've had it with this thread.... Someone else can reply to this...

PS: Enemies of the Jews pre-date any NWO talk.... The traditional enemies are still the true enemies... This includes the Muslims and those who hate G-d. The NWO will not bring anything new to this battle.... I continue to view my enemy as Islam and Nazism.


New World Order is the main reason why Jews are being attacked by Hamas, Muslim brotherhood, Nazis etc.

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 08, 2011, 10:52:03 PM
New World Order is not a Zionist, Jewish or Israeli conspiracy at all. If it was why would they create an Arab  "revolution" so the Muslim Brotherhood can get into power and join together and go after Israel?

Why would the Western mainstream media in Europe be pro Gaza?

Why would the New World Order puppet Obama push for the fake Gaza peace?

 :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D

Where are you getting all this information from?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D

Where are you getting all this information from?

10 years of research.

Does this New World Order Laura - Gaza is a concentration camp - Booth Tony Blair's sister in law behaves like she has a Zionist agenda?
Laura Booth in Gaza:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U54NM9QE5VY/SfsEKDYXXVI/AAAAAAAAG7I/zYvREEOa6GQ/s400/Lauren+Booth+in+Gaza.jpg)

Why would New World Order MI5 support Mussolini if it was a Zionist conspiracy?
"Recruited by MI5: the name's Mussolini. Benito Mussolini

Documents reveal Italian dictator got start in politics in 1917 with help of £100 weekly wage from MI5"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 08, 2011, 10:58:33 PM
10 years of research.

Does this New World Order Laura - Gaza is a concentration camp - Booth Tony Blair's sister in law behaves like she has a Zionist agenda?
Laura Booth in Gaza:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U54NM9QE5VY/SfsEKDYXXVI/AAAAAAAAG7I/zYvREEOa6GQ/s400/Lauren+Booth+in+Gaza.jpg)

Why are you so obsessed with this New World Order crap? Let it go already. 
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 08, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
Why are you so obsessed with this New World Order crap? Let it go already.  

Because the Nazi regime was only a test drive. We are now in the end game. The Elite are already using Soft kills on humanity to wipe out 80-90%

They are going for WW3 and use GMO on us that mess up our health etc.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
(http://www.radioliberty.com/gg3.gif)

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

Ted Turner Wants Population Reduction Through China' s "One Child Policy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CP5jnXDUk
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 09, 2011, 06:44:47 AM
Oh come on. The only conspiracy here is that people think islam is a legitimate religion. Political correctness and shutting  off our eyes by the need media that all of today's problems are musliyour conspiracy is off. You have escaped from the loony bin.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 09, 2011, 06:55:54 AM
There is no new world order causing these problems. This life is not a tv conspiracy show.  The real problem is the white washing the dangers of islam.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 09, 2011, 07:47:51 AM

PS: What is this 'mark of the beast' BS? That is obviously NOT a Jewish concept at all... The terms you are using indicate to me that you are a messianic christian.... We do not allow missionizing at JTF...

This might be shorthand for the RFID microchip. When the Nazis were keeping track of a lot of people they used IBM technology. It's hypothesized that if a modern evil government took over the world that people would be required to wear some form of implant with their medical and criminal history, genetic information, name, job, etc. on it which is more efficient and informative to a dictatorship than tattooing numbers on people and keeping card files.

A lot of people from a Christian background think this might be the 'Mark of the Beast' if it were implemented, but even if it isn't, it's pretty scary stuff.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: mord on August 09, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Is this your Youtube page by any chance yes?          http://www.youtube.com/user/snestorm05
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 09, 2011, 09:10:11 AM
This might be shorthand for the RFID microchip. When the Nazis were keeping track of a lot of people they used IBM technology. It's hypothesized that if a modern evil government took over the world that people would be required to wear some form of implant with their medical and criminal history, genetic information, name, job, etc. on it which is more efficient and informative to a dictatorship than tattooing numbers on people and keeping card files.

A lot of people from a Christian background think this might be the 'Mark of the Beast' if it were implemented, but even if it isn't, it's pretty scary stuff.

The Mark of the beast is real. You will not be able to buy or sell without the microchip in the near future!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lxHkFGQPc90/S2Zimp-IKJI/AAAAAAAAAOk/MuVLoNAzxbA/s400/verichip.jpg)
(http://www.oohwee.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/verichip.jpg)

This is how they lure people to take it. They always use ORDO AB CHAO(Order out of chaos). First they create chaos. The public wants to be safe and the Elite will bring a solution no one will agree to without the chaos.

The naked body scanner is social engineering. Why is it some people accept being stripped naked and radiated by cancer X-rays? If the public accepts that. Then they will go along with more police state big brother tyranny.

Chaos: Economic collapse
People want a solution to keep them self.
Order: A 1 world central bank, with a 1 world currency(Digital), CO2 and financial tax paid directly to the one world government.

When the world has got a world central bank and a 1 world currency(digital) as a solution to the economic collapse They will roll out the chip. They have already worked on making it it cool and trendy being chipped and there are allot of good use for it. Soon you will not be able to buy or sell without the chip and you have all been trained to use credit cards and digital money, therefore you will not resist, when they slowly take paper money away.

The Nazis did not loose the war. The Elite that supported the Nazis are still active. The good news is, we are millions of people that are awake to their scheme and we will not put up with it.
Today we are all Jews in Nazi Germany. We have to unite Jews and non Jews against this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhDrFrs7as&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNhL39uD7I&playnext=1&list=PLF88F205617A6D5DC
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: mord on August 09, 2011, 09:10:45 AM
I do not believe it is a ZIONIST conspiracy at all. I believe it is a Satanic conspiracy and the Jews have been attacked by this old Satanic bloodline for a very long time.

Why is Alex Jones being attacked by the Anti-Semitics calling him a Zionist agent?
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387
realjewnews is a site by milton kempner also know as Brother Nathaniel he converted from being a Jew to the Orthodox religion and became a Jew Hater like phil weiss and [censored] Silverstein  the last 2 never converted        

he's also was found to have tickets to gay mens show             


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiBGqmNwOA
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 09, 2011, 09:11:28 AM
Is this your Youtube page by any chance yes?          http://www.youtube.com/user/snestorm05

no
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 09, 2011, 09:13:40 AM
realjewnews is a site by milton kempner also know as Brother Nathaniel he converted from being a Jew to the Orthodox religion and became a Jew Hater like phil weiss and [censored] Silverstein          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiBGqmNwOA
Mord,
If Nazi infiltrators pointed fingers at Hitler and warned about Nazism and said it was the Jews that are behind Hitler. Would everyone that warn about Hitler be a Nazi? Same thing. The New World Order agents or fools are hijacking the message and blame it on Jews, when Jews are the biggest victims of the New World Order!

New World Order is NOT a Zionist, Jewish or Israeli conspiracy. Does this look like Zionist controlled media to you?
BBC:
"Vatican deplores Gaza situation

The Pope's justice minister, Cardinal Renato Martino, has sharply criticised Israel's actions and likened the Gaza Strip to a "big concentration camp".

"A Palestinian cross rubble from buildings destoyed by Israel strikes
Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed in the past weeks"

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45355000/jpg/_45355337_006684577-1.jpg)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7817019.stm

You should ask yourself. Why is it the New World Order controlled BBC is spreading Anti-Israeli news and is Pro Gaza?
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqMxdsSDIqoNEeL-l0sVFt7oR2gq7Yy0r1TYrJhgsoSfWfMBTg)
Brother Nathaniel is a fool like the rest of the Jew haters. He probably wants to be loved by the non Jews and are willing to spread hate against Jews to get that. He is a coward and someone that would turn other Jews in, in Nazi Germany.

Jew haters have allot of hate, are losers and are looking for something to hate. They are often not very smart and only do superficial research. They love to use character assassinations, instead of debating facts.

You will not believe how many times I have been called a Jew or a Zionist agent. I don't care. I will go up against an entire forum of Jew haters alone, if I have to. I have taken allot of heat defending Jews and Israel, because I am very passionate about spreading the truth regarding the real Gaza and Israel. I have written to politicians, media, posted on forums etc.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 10, 2011, 06:19:16 PM
The only way I'd skip the checkout with an RFID would be if it were on an external device that you take with you shopping like an ID card. There's no way I'm letting someone inject me with one!
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: jbeige on August 10, 2011, 06:38:30 PM
Something is just not right here.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 10, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
The only way I'd skip the checkout with an RFID would be if it were on an external device that you take with you shopping like an ID card. There's no way I'm letting someone inject me with one!

Like using one of these?
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/K4S5o6F66cw/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 10, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
I don't believe that RFID will be injected into anybody. As a matter of fact as technology advances there will rise hackers who will be able to forge RFID codes and disable them... This topic is used to make people fearful... I do not fear it because I know what RFID is.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rfid#Exploitation
Shielding

A number of products are available on the market that will allow a concerned carrier of RFID-enabled cards or passports to shield their data. In fact the United States government requires their new employee ID cards to be delivered with an approved shielding sleeve or holder.[101] There are contradicting opinions as to whether aluminum can prevent reading of RFID chips. Some people claim that aluminum shielding, essentially creating a Faraday cage, does work.[102] Others claim that simply wrapping an RFID card in aluminum foil only makes transmission more difficult and is not completely effective at preventing it.[103]

Shielding is again a function of the frequency being used. Low-frequency LowFID tags, like those used in implantable devices for humans and pets, are relatively resistant to shielding,[citation needed] though thick metal foil will prevent most reads[citation needed]. High frequency HighFID tags (13.56 MHz—smart cards and access badges) are sensitive to shielding and are difficult to read when within a few centimetres of a metal surface.[citation needed] UHF Ultra-HighFID tags (pallets and cartons) are difficult to read when placed within a few millimetres of a metal surface,[citation needed] although their read range is actually increased when they are spaced 2–4 cm from a metal surface due to positive reinforcement of the reflected wave and the incident wave at the tag.[citation needed] UHFID tags can be successfully shielded from most reads by being placed within an anti-static plastic bag.[citation needed][dubious – discuss]

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_baPSplXYBpk/S_GfpFfJ7sI/AAAAAAAAA7M/mGoQeGtnv7U/s1600/tin-foil-hat.jpg)
Effective RFID Shielding

(http://www.gwally.com/news/photos/catintinfoilhat.jpg)
Example of efficient RFID shielding on Human and Feline
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 10, 2011, 09:30:42 PM
I suspect someone has been infected by Alex Jones syndrome here...

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/blog/tag/debunking/

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9.  “You don’t believe in conspiracy theories because you’ve been brainwashed by vaccines/fluoridated water/RFID chips.”

This is another form of Sheeple Argument, and if you hear it from someone, you can be sure that person is very deep in the clutches of almost pathological paranoia.  It’s almost futile to point out that there’s not a shred of evidence that fluoridated water causes “brainwashing,” or that RFID chips are being implanted into people without their knowledge.  If you ask a conspiracy theorist for “evidence” that these things are true, you’ll almost certainly get Alex Jones clips or articles, or other super-paranoid doom-and-gloom scenarios that often also involve wild claims about vaccinations, forced population reduction, etc., usually masterminded by imaginary organizations like “the NWO” or “the Illuminati.”

It is difficult to push back against these arguments because they’re so irrational.  Anyone who is so delusional as to believe that fluoridated water or RFID chips cause “brainwashing” is not likely to be persuaded by the total absence of evidence that either of these things are true.  For more than 50 years the effects of fluoride in water have been studied, and not once has any evidence surfaced to the effect that it “brainwashes” people.  I find it amusing that when this argument is made conspiracy theorists exempt themselves from the “brainwashing” effect, when they presumably drink the same water as the rest of us, but maybe the theta rays emanating from Alex Jones broadcasts and Jeff Rense’s website somehow counteract the effect of fluoridated water.  Nevertheless, all you can do is scoff at this argument.  You can’t do much more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_%28conspiracy_theory%29

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End Time

Since the 19th century, many apocalyptic millenarian Christian eschatologists, starting with John Nelson Darby, have feared a globalist conspiracy to impose a tyrannical New World Order as the fulfillment of prophecies about the "end time" in the Bible, specifically in the Book of Ezekiel, the Book of Daniel, the Olivet discourse found in the Synoptic Gospels, and the Book of Revelation.[24] They assert that people who have made a deal with the Devil to gain wealth and power have become pawns in a supernatural chess game to move humanity into accepting an utopian world government, which rests on the spiritual foundations of a syncretic-messianic world religion, that will later reveal itself to be a dystopian world empire, which imposes the imperial cult of an “Unholy Trinity” — Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet. In many contemporary Christian conspiracy theories, the False Prophet will either be the last pope of the Catholic Church (groomed and installed by an Alta Vendita or Jesuit conspiracy) or a guru from the New Age movement or even the leader of an elite fundamentalist Christian organization like the Fellowship, while the Antichrist will either be the president of the European Union or the secretary-general of the United Nations or even the pan-Islamist leader of a caliphate.[5][24]

Some of the most vocal critics of end-time conspiracy theories come from within Christianity.[12] In 1993, historian Bruce Barron wrote a stern rebuke of apocalyptic Christian conspiracism in the Christian Research Journal, when reviewing Robertson's 1991 book The New World Order.[25] Another critique can be found in historian Gregory S. Camp's 1997 book Selling Fear: Conspiracy Theories and End-Times Paranoia.[2] Religious studies scholar Richard T. Hughes argues that "New World Order" rhetoric libels the Christian faith since the "New World Order", as defined by Christian conspiracy theorists, has no basis in the Bible whatsoever and that, in fact, this idea is not only unbiblical; it is anti-biblical and fundamentally anti-Christian because, by misinterpreting key passages in the Book of Revelations, it turns a comforting message about the coming kingdom of God into one of fear, panic and despair in the face of an allegedly approaching one-world government.[24] Progressive Christians, such as preacher-theologian Peter J. Gomes, caution conservative Christians that a "spirit of fear" can distort scripture and history by dangerously combining biblical literalism, apocalyptic timetables, demonization, and oppressive prejudices;[26][27] while Camp warns of the "very real danger that Christians could pick up some extra spiritual baggage" by credulously embracing conspiracy theories.[2] They therefore call on Christians who indulge in conspiracism to repent.[28][29]
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 10, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
The major strain of NWO conspiracies is based on the patently false 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_%28conspiracy_theory%29#Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

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Protocols of the Elders of Zion

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is an antisemitic canard, originally published in Russian in 1903, alleging a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy to achieve world domination. The text purports to be the minutes of the secret meetings of a cabal of Jewish masterminds, which has coopted Freemasonry and is plotting to rule the world on behalf of all Jews because they believe themselves to be the chosen people of God.[39] The Protocols incorporate many of the core conspiracist themes outlined in the Robison and Barruel attacks on the Freemasons, and overlay them with antisemitic allegations about anti-Tsarist movements in Russia. The Protocols reflect themes similar to more general critiques of Enlightenment liberalism by conservative aristocrats who support monarchies and state religions. The interpretation intended by the publication of The Protocols is that if one peels away the layers of the Masonic conspiracy, past the Illuminati, one finds the rotten Jewish core.[12]

The Protocols has been proven by polemicists, such as Irish journalist Philip Graves in a 1921 The Times article, and British academic Norman Cohn in his 1967 book Warrant for Genocide, to be both a hoax and a clear case of plagiarism. There is general agreement that Russian-French writer and political activist Matvei Golovinski fabricated the text for Okhrana, the secret police of the Russian Empire, as a work of counter-revolutionary propaganda prior to the 1905 Russian Revolution, by plagiarizing it, almost word for word in some passages, from The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, a 19th century satire against Napoleon III of France written by French political satirist and Legitimist militant Maurice Joly.[40]

Responsible for feeding many antisemitic and anti-Masonic mass hysterias of the 20th century, The Protocols is widely considered to be influential in the development of conspiracy theories in general and New World Order conspiracism in particular, and reappears repeatedly in contemporary conspiracy literature.[5] For example, the authors of the 1982 controversial book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail concluded that The Protocols was the most persuasive piece of evidence for the existence and activities of the Priory of Sion. They speculated that this secret society was working behind the scenes to establish a theocratic "United States of Europe". Politically and religiously unified through the imperial cult of a Merovingian sacred king — supposedly descended from a Jesus bloodline — who occupies both the throne of Europe and the Holy See, this "Holy European Empire" would become the hyperpower of the 21st century.[41] Although the Priory of Sion, itself, has been exhaustively debunked by journalists and scholars as a hoax,[42] apocalyptic millenarian Christian eschatologists who believe The Protocols is authentic became convinced that the Priory of Sion was a fulfillment of prophecies found in the Book of Revelation and further proof of an anti-Christian conspiracy of epic proportions signaling the imminence of a New World Order.[43]

Skeptics argue that the current gambit of contemporary conspiracy theorists who use The Protocols is to claim that they "really" come from some group other than the Jews such as fallen angels or alien invaders. Although it is hard to determine whether the conspiracy-minded actually believe this or are simply trying to sanitize a discredited text, skeptics argue that it doesn't make much difference, since they leave the actual, antisemitic text unchanged. The result is to give The Protocols credibility and circulation when it deserves neither.[7]
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: BritishSword on August 11, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
I do not understand all this hostility??

Chill out mate. They're always like this with newbies. You need a thick skin and sharp tongue to survive on here.

Listen pal, I think you mean well but just give it a rest for a couple of days, ask some questions on askJTF. First show that you are committed to the state of Israel.
  Then you can look at exploring other ideas.

In other words you haven't earned your green beret.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 11, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
ALEX JONES IS A 9/11 TRUTHER BUDDY!

He believes it was carried out by Zionist Jews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52fm6zAHa-w

http://www.infowars.com/feds-attempting-to-entrap-truthers/
How did you find that so fast?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 11, 2011, 08:28:28 PM
How did you find that so fast?

Google...

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=alex+jones+9%2F11+conspiracy+jews&pbx=1&oq=alex+jones+9%2F11+conspiracy+jews&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=6711l7360l1l7454l5l3l0l0l0l0l120l196l1.1l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=af5f4f3fbb50940f&biw=1081&bih=815
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 11, 2011, 09:06:13 PM
Muman two of my cats are injected with them and I'm getting the other two done soon. I know what they are too. I think it's fine for animals but not people.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: muman613 on August 11, 2011, 09:17:52 PM
Muman two of my cats are injected with them and I'm getting the other two done soon. I know what they are too. I think it's fine for animals but not people.

Yes, there is an application for RFID. I work with some of those applications. RFID is also used in many of the keyless ignition and car door systems. RFID can be misused like any other technology... But for every technology there is a way to hack it and thus it is not the end of the world.

We already are tracked {at least I am} because I use the Android phone platform. The Android phone has a GPS built in and it can, via the 3G network, report on your location to various companies websites. I am sure google knows my daily schedule {which consists of going to work, and coming home}...

Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 12, 2011, 08:25:44 AM
Does this look like Nazi Germany to you or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEofy7fsIGk

This one was censored from TV the 2nd time it had to be re-aired and disappeared from peoples own DVRs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_657900&v=HtI72nZLw2s&feature=iv

"Bill Will Establish 'National Emergency Centers' On Military Installations --FEMA Camps Mandated in H.R. 645 22 Jan 2009 A Bill to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations. SECTION 1. This Act may be cited as the 'National Emergency Centers Establishment Act'. SECTION 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS. (a) In General - In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations... (b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers... (3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security. "

http://www.dailypaul.com/80924/fema-camp-bill-introduced
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 12, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
Yes, there is an application for RFID. I work with some of those applications. RFID is also used in many of the keyless ignition and car door systems. RFID can be misused like any other technology... But for every technology there is a way to hack it and thus it is not the end of the world.

We already are tracked {at least I am} because I use the Android phone platform. The Android phone has a GPS built in and it can, via the 3G network, report on your location to various companies websites. I am sure google knows my daily schedule {which consists of going to work, and coming home}...



That's one good reason to always stay on the legal side of things, there are so many ways that the government and/or private industries have of tracking you. I think there are a lot of really good and legitimate uses for RFID technology but implanting them into people is not one of them I would agree with at all. I don't even think criminals should have them implanted (it would be ok on an external device like some people have to wear when they're under house arrest for example, just not implanted).
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 12, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
That's one good reason to always stay on the legal side of things, there are so many ways that the government and/or private industries have of tracking you. I think there are a lot of really good and legitimate uses for RFID technology but implanting them into people is not one of them I would agree with at all. I don't even think criminals should have them implanted (it would be ok on an external device like some people have to wear when they're under house arrest for example, just not implanted).

What do you think about this?
"FDA approves computer chip for humans"
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2004/10/4305.ars

Tyranny is always rolled out with good intentions to lure the public to accept it.
Government: We are only surveilling you for your own safety.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty"
Benjamin Franklin

"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."

Martin Niemöller

"MEXICO CITY — Security has reached the subcutaneous level for Mexico's attorney general and at least 160 people in his office -- they have been implanted with microchips that get them access to secure areas of their headquarters. "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/microchips-implanted-mexican-officials/#.TkUhNmETaSo
(http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040714/040714_mexicoChip_hmed_3p.grid-6x2.jpg)
It is so cool to be micro-chipped. Be like James Bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj48dzFsb0c

"Would an implanted chip help to keep my child safe?"
"If your child could wear an implant – a microchip that could tell a computer where he or she was at any time to within a few metres – would you buy it? After the horrific snatch of three-year-old Madeleine McCann from her bed in Portugal, the answer from many parents seems to be “yes”. "
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article1788169.ece

Imagine if Hitler got this kind of power?

"Obama: Nationalized healthcare; so did Hitler.

Obama: Nationalized the banks, so did Hitler.

Obama: Nationalized the car cos, so did Hitler.

Obama: Seeking to ‘reform’ education, same as Hitler.  What more do you liberal Jews need?  For Obama to send you to the gas chambers here in America before you wake up?"
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/category/liberal-jews/
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on August 12, 2011, 09:50:18 AM
Gas Nazi trolls
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: serbian army on August 12, 2011, 10:27:25 PM
Jewish people first must have will to protect themselves. Some Rabbis sending letter to ban the Jewish people from their holiest place is totally insane. It seems to me that Jews inflict more pain upon other Jews than their enemies are.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Brett on August 13, 2011, 06:09:11 AM
Muman,
Here in Australia the Labour Party has allied itself with the the 'Jew hating' Greens party. For years many have seen the Greens as a fringe dwelling lunatic fringe but at the last election they got much power in our federal Government here.

The greens are responsible for pushing the BDS against Israel and backing the Islamic Nazis. The leader of the Greens Bob (Sodomite b*astard) Brown who is an ardent Communist has even given his backing for moving towards the NWO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MpLocFQus

These sick people are in positions of power now and our (Australian) Government are making the way possible. We live in dangerous times, Nazism/Communism are making a comeback.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 13, 2011, 10:09:51 AM
Neptun I don't agree with it being injected into a person. For one thing even if you don't think it's Big Brother or any of that other stuff nobody knows the long term health risks of them. It's one thing to inject it into an animal that may have a lifespan of 10-20 years but I don't think anybody really knows how safe these things are when in a person for decades during a typical human lifespan. There might be an increased risk of tumors around the chip site or other problems. That's another thing for people to consider.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: cjd on August 13, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
The push by General Electric for centralized medical records is the gateway for some sort of chip program... For the past year or so G.E has been running TV spots showing the great benefits of having a database on Americans so they would have all the information needed about them available at the press of a button... It sounds great from a medical treatment stand point however I am sure along with the medical info. financial and preexisting condition info will also show up... How long before employers and lenders start using this against people applying for jobs, loans or insurance.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 13, 2011, 12:57:10 PM
The push by General Electric for centralized medical records is the gateway for some sort of chip program... For the past year or so G.E has been running TV spots showing the great benefits of having a database on Americans so they would have all the information needed about them available at the press of a button... It sounds great from a medical treatment stand point however I am sure along with the medical info. financial and preexisting condition info will also show up... How long before employers and lenders start using this against people applying for jobs, loans or insurance.

There are so many different ways this can be abused. I can also see the IRS using it to track the movements of people who owe them money, etc.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: jbeige on August 13, 2011, 04:44:40 PM
The push by General Electric for centralized medical records is the gateway for some sort of chip program... For the past year or so G.E has been running TV spots showing the great benefits of having a database on Americans so they would have all the information needed about them available at the press of a button... It sounds great from a medical treatment stand point however I am sure along with the medical info. financial and preexisting condition info will also show up... How long before employers and lenders start using this against people applying for jobs, loans or insurance.
This is great news, where do I get my chip?
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: jbeige on August 13, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
There are so many different ways this can be abused. I can also see the IRS using it to track the movements of people who owe them money, etc.
Maybe they can use it to track down criminals, that would be good.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 13, 2011, 05:47:11 PM
Many of you may have some issues with this left-wing feministic Jewish woman. But I think it is a great speech she has given.

Naomi Wolf - The End of America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on August 13, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
With all due respectNeptun, Naomi Wolf was a bright attractive young woman and she threw it away for joy of being a self-hating traitor to her own people and a frank apologist for the misogynist norms of Islam.  She wrote in an article a few years ago about the hijab preserving a woman's sexuality for her husband and argued that this helped foster intimacy and privacy between a Muslim woman and her husband.  She is a despicable hypocrite off the lowest rung of the human ladder.  Had else written the same thing she did except  replaced the word "Muslim" with "Caucasian." they would have had their house firebombed by the Feminist Left.  can you imagine someone saying, "white women preserve their sexuality by completely covering their faces so they can't eat or breathe.  White women do this to preserve the closeness and intimacy of the marital bond." 

I mean, right, no one would say that and be seen as anything but a complete and utter piece of woman hating filth
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Rubystars on August 14, 2011, 02:34:33 AM
Maybe they can use it to track down criminals, that would be good.

No because they can declare anyone a 'criminal' if its convenient.
Title: Re: Why we non Jews have to protect the Jews
Post by: Neptun on August 14, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
With all due respectNeptun, Naomi Wolf was a bright attractive young woman and she threw it away for joy of being a self-hating traitor to her own people and a frank apologist for the misogynist norms of Islam.  She wrote in an article a few years ago about the hijab preserving a woman's sexuality for her husband and argued that this helped foster intimacy and privacy between a Muslim woman and her husband.  She is a despicable hypocrite off the lowest rung of the human ladder.  Had else written the same thing she did except  replaced the word "Muslim" with "Caucasian." they would have had their house firebombed by the Feminist Left.  can you imagine someone saying, "white women preserve their sexuality by completely covering their faces so they can't eat or breathe.  White women do this to preserve the closeness and intimacy of the marital bond."  

I mean, right, no one would say that and be seen as anything but a complete and utter piece of woman hating filth
I understand you have some issues with her. I don't like the left-wing feministic BS my self. If we only listen to those we agree with, then we limit ourselves. Her speech is spot on. You should see it!