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Title: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: BritishSword on August 11, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
Inspired by Neptuns somewhat contradictory post I figured I'd take a soundbite.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Rubystars on August 11, 2011, 04:31:49 PM
I didn't choose any of the options because I think people's first priority is to take care of themselves and their own family, but I do think that it's important to be concerned about anti-Semitism and to oppose it.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: BritishSword on August 11, 2011, 04:38:20 PM
I didn't choose any of the options because I think people's first priority is to take care of themselves and their own family, but I do think that it's important to be concerned about anti-Semitism and to oppose it.

I do agree with that absolutely. I chose the third option.

Of course I oppose jew hatred very vigourously on sites like youtube, but CBP has made it very clear in my point of view that Israel and jews can take excellent care of their own protection if people would just leave them to it.
I.E Even the wimps in Likud would have bombed Iran were it not for Obamas pressure.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Zelhar on August 11, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
We have to get by ourselves, or we would be destroyed.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Meerkat on August 11, 2011, 05:18:38 PM
this is a nation that shall dwell alone and shall not be reckoned among the nations

option 2, jews need to be totally independent, external help is unreliable.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: muman613 on August 11, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
I only rely on Hashem for everything, personal and national salvation will come to those who trust only in his/her Father in heaven...

Of course if Hashem wishes the nations to help us then I am willing to accept any help which Hashem sends our way...

Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 11, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
Only God can truly protect the Jews.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 11, 2011, 06:21:21 PM
I chose the first option.

First off jews should only rely in Gd for help and nobody else.

As far as gentiles: those who bless thee will be blessed and those who curse thee will be cursed.

So if a gentile wants to help the jews, he/she will be blessed.  Don't gentiles want to have Gd on their side by blessing the jews and helping them? With enough faith in Gd, it's a freebee to have a blessed life. 
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 11, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
Of course we should help Jews but first and foremost, Jews have to decide that sticking up for themselves is worth it. Until that happens all the Gentile concern in the world will not be of purpose.
Title: Re: NonJews protecting Jews.
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 12, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Of course we should help Jews but first and foremost, Jews have to decide that sticking up for themselves is worth it. Until that happens all the Gentile concern in the world will not be of purpose.

Righto...it might even work counter productively if Gentiles try to protect Jews when Jews refuse to protect themselves..I think the safest thing at that point is to pray to Gd to be merciful to the Jewish people.