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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 23, 2011, 06:36:37 AM
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I explained on this week's Ask JTF program why I think we should support Rick Perry. Please listen to that part of the program and then vote in this poll. The majority will decide.
Thanks!
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I would take a wait and see approach in my opinion. Support Bachmann and acknowledge that Perry is second best on an idealistic stance. If Bachmann loses Iowa, then we should jump on the Perry bandwagon immediately.
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Sure
I'll need to buy a pair of Rick Perry nose plugs thought.
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Reluctantly I say yes.
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I agree with Dr. dan! IF bachamn looses than we are gooing to support perry. Bachman in my opinion is more of a rightous gentile than perry. Also George wahabi bush appointed him as luetennet governor. I do not trust him because of that.
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I agree with Dr Dan.
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I don't know yet he has some questionable affiliations
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http://www.rosieontheright.com/blog/?p=668
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Agreed. If Bachmann doesn't win the nomination, we should support Perry.
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Perry is one of the few candidates that can go the entire distance and gain office... Bachmann might do well in a primary run but will get nowhere in the general elections... We need to look at this in a practical manor... We know the shvartza President will destroy America and Israel as we know them in his next term... If Perry can unseat him it's already half the battle... Even if Perry backslides on a third of what he promises we still would be ahead of the game... Bachmann, Romney and Pallen do not seem to have what it takes to lure in the crossover vote... Bachmann will do well in the party vote but will fizzle out in the general elections... Romney and Pallen have problems even with the party vote let alone crossover voters... Perry seems to be the one chance we can sent the shvartza President packing... I'm with Chaim on this... Perry should be the focus of our support. It's really a life and death situation... In many ways we just really need to take the most marketable candidate in the bunch to unseat our P.M.P and that as of now seems to be Perry.
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You Bachmann supporters still don't get it, she can not beat obama.
The wait and see attitude never works, you are going to wait and then support Perry after Bachmann drops out of the race which will only a few months before the general election, what's the point of that.
Do you people realize how important this election is?, If obama gets in again Israel is a parking lot for the mussies and the supreme court will be all liberal.
I'm not saying Perry is the best candidate but it's either him or Romney, hold your noses and vote for one of them.
Please cut the dreaming and come back to reality.
Thank you.
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You Bachmann supporters still don't get it, she can not beat obama.
The wait and see attitude never works, you are going to wait and then support Perry after Bachmann drops out of the race which will only a few months before the general election, what's the point of that.
Do you people realize how important this election is?, If obama gets in again Israel is a parking lot for the mussies and the supreme court will be all liberal.
I'm not saying Perry is the best candidate but it's either him or Romney, hold your noses and vote for one of them.
Please cut the dreaming and come back to reality.
Thank you.
You were ahead of the curve with Perry... I myself was focusing on a Romney / ? ticket however polls show Romney is even in worse shape with the party vote then Bachmann is... Where would a Bachmann or Romney ticket leave us in the general elections...Honestly as we sit now Perry is the only hope of unseating the so called sitting president.
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If Bachmann can't then Perry Must!
We can not afford to have this current filth still in the WH come Nov 2012, Bachmann or Perry if fine with me!
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I"m going to predict that Bachmann or Perry will win Iowa and Romney in New Hampshire. South Carolina will be Perry and then it will be up to Florida which will be between Romney or Perry.
Anyway, whatever JTF decides, I'll be fine with it and I understand the practicality of supporting Perry even though he is maybe worse than Bachmann.
If JTF chooses Perry, I'll secretly hope that Bachmann still wins...but the reality is anybody but Obama.
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I haven't yet listened to the program. Personally I support Bachmann. If she loses or drops out, then maybe perry. We must defeat hussein.
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Perry tops new Gallup poll by 12 points
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/08/perry-tops-new-gallup-poll-by-12-points/1?loc=interstitialskip
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I need to know more first. His comment about evolution was problematic for many reasons, especially given the role he will have as the leader of the free world
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I'm very concerned about Rick Perry's ties to the Muslim world:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2011/0815/Can-Rick-Perry-maintain-his-good-ties-with-Muslims-as-a-GOP-candidate
For this reason, I prefer to support Michele Bachmann until it becomes crystal clear that she can't win the Republican Nomination. If Bachmann falls out of contention, I'm not sure who I'm going to support. Unfortunately from my perspective, it looks like Rick Perry is drawing support from many people who would have supported Michele Bachmann if he didn't enter the race.
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Perry is being made out to look like another George W Bush and I don't know how hes going to shed that image.
Bachmann's good but it's important to beat Obama and I don't know if I want to GOP to take a risk on a female candidate. I am a female and I would love to see a female president but who knows what would happen if she were to win the primary and run.
Overall I am not too enthusiastic about any of the republican candidates but I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination. Thank goodness it's not McCain. Hope it's someone who actually has a chance this time!
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The republican establishment also said that Reagan cannot win an election because he's too conservative and a fringe candidate. Remember, Reagan also went up against a far left radical, named jimmy carter.
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Michele Bachmann is far more pretty than Rick Perry!!
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I voted yes. He's the best we've got right now even if he's kind of blah
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The republican establishment also said that Reagan cannot win an election because he's too conservative and a fringe candidate. Remember, Reagan also went up against a far left radical, named jimmy carter.
Reagan lost two presidential primaries in 1968 and 1976 and please do not compare the space cadet Bachmann to Reagan.
All Bachmann has to say is "CHANGE" "CHANGE" and she's a white female obama.
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This is the best America has......?
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0&feature=feedu)
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The republican establishment also said that Reagan cannot win an election because he's too conservative and a fringe candidate. Remember, Reagan also went up against a far left radical, named jimmy carter.
The nation was substantially farther to the right in 1980 than it is at present. When 50% of all Americans support fag "marriage" and 75% of young adults, even many of the "religious" ones included, do, there's only so far any "conservative" can get.
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I guess. At this point, I just want someone who has the best chances against Hussein. I think getting a true conservative is just not in the cards at this time.
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This is the best America has......?
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0&feature=feedu)
Well we can't dig Barry Morris Goldwater up and have him run for president... It did not work back in 1964 and it sure as hell won't work in 2012... The majority of the American people as we speak are looking for a candidate who is slightly right of center... Too far to the right and you will be stuck with 4 more years of the shvartza Administration... As a young kid I helped my father staple up campaign posters and hand out hand bills for Goldwater... Goldwater's policies were just too much even for people back in 1964... After he lost the election to LBJ I remember lining the bottom of the bird cage with Goldwater hand bills for some time after... In short half a loaf is better then none at all ultra conservatives are just not going to gain office in a presidential race... As much as I would want to see it they will never deport the vast majority of illegals now here in America... Perry might have be pandering to the Hispanic vote with that kind of talk for his local elections because of Texases voting demographics... I am sure he is singing a different tune now that he is running for nationwide office.
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Reagan lost two presidential primaries in 1968 and 1976 and please do not compare the space cadet Bachmann to Reagan.
All Bachmann has to say is "CHANGE" "CHANGE" and she's a white female obama.
That has not been her campaign strategy at all. Do you ever even bother to listen to her speak?
You are just egesting in your pants over the possibility that you will hear all the insults and venom of the left and the way they attack the rightwing. But I have news for you: perry will be portrayed just the same and no matter how "centrist" you think your candidate is, the left is going to tar and feather him/her in the worst possible way. They and the media are going to ridicule any republican candidate and his/her voters no matter what no matter how moderate you think they are.
Let me get this straight, you are saying the since reagan lost a few primaries before becoming president therefore we should never try electing a consrervative again? Omg the same illogic that claimed Jews don't own the Holy land even thouugh God said they do. Wow what a perspective that is!
I just can't wwait until whatever candidate is nominated and when its a "centrist" liike you are begging for, the media will start calling him and portraying him as a space cadet, what will you say then, we picked the wrong guy? Lol
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The nation was substantially farther to the right in 1980 than it is at present. When 50% of all Americans support fag "marriage" and 75% of young adults, even many of the "religious" ones included, do, there's only so far any "conservative" can get.
That's a ghetto mentality. Ghetto mentality will surely get obama elected.
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I just think that because we are an uncompromising idealistic movement we shouldn't settle for second best when the best is still available. I'm a little surprised by fine jtfers responses of settling for a lesser candidate
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What happens if the rumors are true that he had sexual relationships with 2 of his male chefs.Can you imagine what the Leftists would say
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=95720#ixzz1VT7uclRt
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I'm very concerned about Rick Perry's ties to the Muslim world:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2011/0815/Can-Rick-Perry-maintain-his-good-ties-with-Muslims-as-a-GOP-candidate
For this reason, I prefer to support Michele Bachmann until it becomes crystal clear that she can't win the Republican Nomination. If Bachmann falls out of contention, I'm not sure who I'm going to support. Unfortunately from my perspective, it looks like Rick Perry is drawing support from many people who would have supported Michele Bachmann if he didn't enter the race.
Eb,
I may be wrong but most Muslims dont even consider the Ismailis to be Muslims because Ismailis tend to be very peaceful, not political. They reject Islam as a political system and I dont believe they follow all of the Quran. I have known a few Ismailis who stood up for me against other Muslims from the Middle East who were determined to make the life of any people that didn't kow-tow to their politics. I believe they are disliked because they have no interest in the barbarism that say so many Arab Muslims seem to revel in. I myself am going to do more research on the Ismailis. I actually did several years ago, but have forgotten some of the details
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Perry seems like an Islamist enabler if not closet qurananimal
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
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That's a ghetto mentality. Ghetto mentality will surely get obama elected.
How is that a ghetto mentality? Look where most Americans stand. Look at where most younger Americans stand in particular. Do you really think that the majority of under-30 Americans would vote for someone similar to Ronald Reagan today like they did in 1980? RR would have a hard time winning over the baby-boomer set today.
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I just think that because we are an uncompromising idealistic movement we shouldn't settle for second best when the best is still available. I'm a little surprised by fine jtfers responses of settling for a lesser candidate
I am going by an analysis of the facts and Chaim's advice on the situation. Bachmann has lost a lot of steam in the last two weeks. Romney is worse than Perry. The only other "Republican" candidate that might be able to get a lot of steam, Ron Nazi Paul, is unthinkable.
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This time the Republican wins automatically hands down. It is better that he/she is somewhat righteous. So leading righteous republican shall be supported.