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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: White Israelite on August 24, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
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And they lose their free benefits too lol
http://news.yahoo.com/second-largest-u-indian-tribe-expels-slave-descendants-011650136.html
OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - The nation's second-largest Indian tribe formally booted from membership thousands of descendants of black slaves who were brought to Oklahoma more than 170 years ago by Native American owners.
The Cherokee nation voted after the Civil War to admit the slave descendants to the tribe.
But on Monday, the Cherokee nation Supreme Court ruled that a 2007 tribal decision to kick the so-called "Freedmen" out of the tribe was proper.
The controversy stems from a footnote in the brutal history of U.S. treatment of Native Americans. When many Indians were forced to move to what later became Oklahoma from the eastern U.S. in 1838, some who had owned plantations in the South brought along their slaves.
Some 4,000 Indians died during the forced march, which became known as the "Trail of Tears."
"And our ancestors carried the baggage," said Marilyn Vann, the Freedman leader who is a plaintiff in the legal battle.
Officially, there are about 2,800 Freedmen, but another 3,500 have tribal membership applications pending, and there could be as many as 25,000 eligible to enter the tribe, according to Vann.
The tribal court decision was announced one day before absentee ballots were to be mailed in the election of the Cherokee Principal Chief.
"This is racism and apartheid in the 21st Century," said Vann, an engineer who lives in Oklahoma City.
Spokesmen for the tribe did not respond when asked to comment.
The move to exclude the Freedmen has rankled some African American members of Congress, which has jurisdiction over all Native American tribes in the country.
A lawsuit challenging the Freedman's removal from the tribe has been pending in federal court in Washington, for about six years.
As a sovereign nation, Cherokee Nation officials maintain that the tribe has the right to amend its constitutional membership requirements.
Removal from the membership rolls means the Freedmen will no longer be eligible for free health care and other benefits such as education concessions.
(Editing by Cynthia Johnston and Greg McCune)
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No more "gib muh dat!" :laugh:
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Oh man those black hebrew israelite native american pretendians are gonna be pissed.
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No more "gib muh dat!" :laugh:
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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Oh man those black hebrew israelite native american pretendians are gonna be pissed.
Sure are :::D
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WAIT!!!! How can they do this??? I thought the Blacks were the first to discover America???
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I guess the Cherokees got tired of "muh dik".
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Don't the Cherokee need some people to marry off any fat Cherokee women if there are any?
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Don't the Cherokee need some people to marry off any fat Cherokee women if there are any?
they rarely marry outsiders, the pure blooded ones anyways, most of the white people don't have any indian ancestry or small diluted amounts. They are known as pretendians because their grandmother spread a myth that their long lost ancestor was a Cherokee Indian yet don't show even the slightest Indian feature, even the diluted amounts will show something, it's like someone with a quarter black blood in them, you will definitely see something there in the features regardless of admixture. Kind of strange, in Latin America, people pretend to be Spaniards who are primarily Mestizo and White Europeans pretend to be Indians in America, somethings wrong with that picture.
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they rarely marry outsiders, the pure blooded ones anyways, most of the white people don't have any indian ancestry or small diluted amounts. They are known as pretendians because their grandmother spread a myth that their long lost ancestor was a Cherokee Indian yet don't show even the slightest Indian feature, even the diluted amounts will show something, it's like someone with a quarter black blood in them, you will definitely see something there in the features regardless of admixture. Kind of strange, in Latin America, people pretend to be Spaniards who are primarily Mestizo and White Europeans pretend to be Indians in America, somethings wrong with that picture.
I hope the Cherokee tribe cuts out all those pretender white people too. It's just something that people use to alleviate their white guilt though. It's like "If I can be just a little bit nonwhite, then I'm not going to feel as bad about being an evil white devil". So the (extremely common) myth is perpetuated. I don't think I've met very many white people who don't have some myth in their family that they're 1/32 or 1/64 Cherokee.
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I hope the Cherokee tribe cuts out all those pretender white people too. It's just something that people use to alleviate their white guilt though. It's like "If I can be just a little bit nonwhite, then I'm not going to feel as bad about being an evil white devil". So the (extremely common) myth is perpetuated. I don't think I've met very many white people who don't have some myth in their family that they're 1/32 or 1/64 Cherokee.
It's commonplace everywhere now Ruby, you can see what someone with even 1/4 blood looks like
Dan Henderson is Scottish, French, Welsh and Native but you can still see he has native blood
(http://www.whattheproswear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/dan-henderson1.jpg)
It's some sort of guilt or romantisizing of another people that whites feel guilty of what their background is.
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Yes you can see it in his features although at first glance I'd probably think he was white you can definitely see it. You make a good point there.
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in Latin America, people pretend to be Spaniards who are primarily Mestizo
Actually most Mestizos do consider themselves indigenous since for example Guatemalans will blend Mayan rituals with Catholic rituals during mass.
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In other news the average IQ of the Cherokee tribe went up 10 points.
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In other news the average IQ of the Cherokee tribe went up 10 points.
:laugh: :::D :laugh:
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In other news the average IQ of the Cherokee tribe went up 10 points.
I figured it might be more than that?
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In other news the average IQ of the Cherokee tribe went up 10 points.
Great post Coon! lol