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Title: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: Aces High on September 12, 2011, 11:23:28 PM
Pretty interesting comment, someone wrote:

No Turkey's 300 or so F-16 and F-4's are not going to defeat the IAF and their 400 or so F-15 and F-16's.  The IAF is better trained, led, and equipped.
 
Frankly both sides would be challenged "defeating" the other.  The closest Turkish air base to Israel is Incirlik with around 5,000 US military so Israel can't exactly start rolling back the Turkish Air Force.
 
While both sides can conduct strikes against the other neither would be able to project significant ground forces into the other and thus neither can truly defeat the other.  Both sides would also be challenged operating naval forces near the others shores given both nations air forces and significant naval patrol capacity, of course around half of Turkey's unmanned systems are Israeli.
 
Frankly Turkey can posture all it wants but it's not realistic for them to start a military conflict.  Even if they send warships to escort some convoy to Gaza exactly how do they respond to Israeli forces attempting to stop that convoy?  What do they do if their ships are struck or sunk?  Air cover near Israel is a losing proposition in the face of the IAF operating near their own bases.  Attempting strikes against Israel itself will cost the Turkish Air Force heavily for little gain.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: Meerkat on September 12, 2011, 11:27:14 PM
Israel would win but it would have a very tough war.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: maelgwyn on September 13, 2011, 12:11:12 AM
If the 5,000 US personel are at Turkish airbase thats their hard luck if it came to a war! >:(
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: Manch on September 13, 2011, 12:29:58 AM
Pretty interesting comment, someone wrote:
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This is very good analysis. However, under the current erev rav, I doubt that Israel is capable of projecting itself forcefully against Turkish convoys. 
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 13, 2011, 12:45:20 PM
Chaim said in his answer to Muman's question that Israel would be in a lot of trouble if it got into it with Turkey, because she has gone soft and no longer has the will to win. "This is not the same Israel of the 1967 Six Day War" was his exact quote.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: serbian army on September 13, 2011, 04:41:09 PM
We can see how in Turkey Wahhabi movement is stronger and stronger. Overnight they want war with Israel. 
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: The proud Jew on September 13, 2011, 04:43:44 PM
Oh well we can have the kurdish resistance groups attack turkey along with  armenia. The turks commited to many tragedys that many countries will have the courage to fight back if they knew israel was fighting them and supporting there groups.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: serbian army on September 13, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
Very true. I am convinced that Vatican has part in this. In fact they gave them territory and control over Jerusalem in the past.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: syyuge on September 13, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
Turkey is the north power, so it is destined to be defeated completely.
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: maelgwyn on September 13, 2011, 11:36:32 PM
Cromwell once said that the Roman Catholic Church is more than a religion its a political force! >:(
Title: Re: Can Turkey defeat Israel in a war?
Post by: Secularbeliever on September 14, 2011, 12:11:06 AM
Turkey is not going to war with Israel.  They are too far apart geographically.