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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on October 20, 2011, 04:54:57 PM
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Please explain your vote
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Intelligence, because who wants stupid kids or to live with a dumb-butt for 50+ years?
Kindness, because nobody wants to live with a jerk for 50+ years
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Intelligence, because who wants stupid kids or to live with a dumb-butt for 50+ years?
Kindness, because nobody wants to live with a jerk for 50+ years
Yea right
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What is this fourth philosophy guy's deal?
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Socio-economical status.
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99% would have voted it for Money.
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I have no idea, Im not a woman.... But the women I have been with have been interested in my humor, my intellect, and my good looks... There is one other aspect which women are concerned with and it would not be modest to discuss it..
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My collection of pristine star wars action figures.
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Intelligence, because who wants stupid kids or to live with a dumb-butt for 50+ years?
Kindness, because nobody wants to live with a jerk for 50+ years
you read my mind all the way down in Texas.
those were the two things I had in mind -- that were lacking in the original list.
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you read my mind all the way down in Texas.
those were the two things I had in mind -- that were lacking in the original list.
Thanks. I think they make sense. Think of the opposite alternative, an idiot abusive jerk. ;D Not the most appealing.
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A great father and a great sensitive husband. If she doesn't realize this, then she's no good.
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It depends on women
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Just be yourself. If she likes you then that's good. If you act like something you act like something you are not, and likes you for what you aren't, then when she find out what you actually are, there could be problems
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A great father and a great sensitive husband. If she doesn't realize this, then she's no good.
Yes and protective
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Women marry the rich and comfortable but fall in love with dangerous, charismatic, cynical and challenging men
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Women marry the rich and comfortable but fall in love with dangerous, charismatic, cynical and challenging men
Are those women happy if they go with one of those 'dangerous' men though? They'll pay for it one way or another and will end up miserable.
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Women marry the rich and comfortable but fall in love with dangerous, charismatic, cynical and challenging men
Nearest to the reality. Perhaps this may mean that first marriage with dangerous man, second marriage with charismatic man, third marriage with cynical man, fourth marriage with challenging men and fifth marriage with rich and comfortable man.
However for over mature women the above cycle may be reversed.
(BTW this is a joke.) ;D
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Are those women happy if they go with one of those 'dangerous' men though? They'll pay for it one way or another and will end up miserable.
Many times they just don't care about happiness. They're addicted.
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Are those women happy if they go with one of those 'dangerous' men though? They'll pay for it one way or another and will end up miserable.
They marry the "provider" and fornicate with the pool boy, carrying his bastard children.
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They marry the "provider" and fornicate with the pool boy, carrying his bastard children.
Not all women though. Adultery isn't something everyone is interested in.
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Confidence, success, eye color, physical similarities. Just from what I've observed.
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Wow! I want to marry alllll of you!
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Wow! I want to marry alllll of you!
That's only possible in small towns in Utah. :::D
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Women marry the rich and comfortable but fall in love with dangerous, charismatic, cynical and challenging men
Depends on the woman and maturity level. Some women want continuity in life and someone that can provide a good life for her and her children. Is that wrong? If a woman just marries a man just because he has money but doesn't love him, then she is doomed will always be unhappy. I think most normal women would like to be comfortable and fall in love with an honest, hard working, loving husband and father.
I know that my wife married me for the right reasons. She could have married a dangerous charismatic challenging billionaire, but chose a Kahanist dentist who is loving, educated, and devoted husband and father to be.
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I have no idea, Im not a woman.... But the women I have been with have been interested in my humor, my intellect, and my good looks... There is one other aspect which women are concerned with and it would not be modest to discuss it..
Thanks for the funniest post here in a year! :laugh: :::D :laugh: :::D :laugh: :::D
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Women marry the rich and comfortable but fall in love with dangerous, charismatic, cynical and challenging men
All women want an alpha male, a "bad boy", a guy with attitude who knows how to handle himself. Trashy women go with crude, "macho" men who often turn out to be alcoholic, abusive trailer trash or street criminals. Women with class go with responsible, solid men who still have confidence, strength, and an edge.
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All women want an alpha male, a "bad boy", a guy with attitude who knows how to handle himself. Trashy women go with crude, "macho" men who often turn out to be alcoholic, abusive trailer trash or street criminals. Women with class go with responsible, solid men who still have confidence, strength, and an edge.
Many younger women in the mid to early 20's will initially go for men who act like this. But in general, confidence and strength is important. Nobody likes a whiney cry baby momma's boy.
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Not all women though. Adultery isn't something everyone is interested in.
No of course not. What I wrote was like an archetype to a certain class of marriages. I think there is a problem that in the world of literature and movies, dysfunctional family is the norm. And it projects heavily into real life.
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I have no idea, Im not a woman.... But the women I have been with have been interested in my humor, my intellect, and my good looks... There is one other aspect which women are concerned with and it would not be modest to discuss it..
Thanks for the funniest post here in a year! :laugh: :::D :laugh: :::D :laugh: :::D
You mean the Nobel Prize for the best post of the year.
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No of course not. What I wrote was like an archetype to a certain class of marriages. I think there is a problem that in the world of literature and movies, dysfunctional family is the norm. And it projects heavily into real life.
You could be right about that, but then all human beings are flawed to begin with.
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In my years of experience, I believe women want a 6' 4" Russian with wavy hair who drives a Honda Accord. ;D
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Well I don't care what women want anymore. I already gots what I need.
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No of course not. What I wrote was like an archetype to a certain class of marriages. I think there is a problem that in the world of literature and movies, dysfunctional family is the norm. And it projects heavily into real life.
Of cause this is true. The only normal TV series I know is "Little House on the Prairie". The best is not to watch TV.
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Of cause this is true. The only normal TV series I know is "Little House on the Prairie". The best is not to watch TV.
I used to watch that when I was a kid. It does have some good episodes :)
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Women worship money.
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Women worship money.
I was wondering why you didn't have that as a choice.
Only the wrong women worship money.
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I was wondering why you didn't have that as a choice.
Only the wrong women worship money.
I agree with you. Money is nice for security purposes and it does tend to cut down on the tension level but I don't think it's important for itself. I think that the quality of the person is a lot more important than how big their paycheck is.
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Women worship money.
Not all women, Ron.
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Lets be honest, Looks are the first thing we notice about someone, it is not by any means the total factor in why we are attracted or love someone. If the partner has charisma, courage, and honesty in his values, he is a definite keeper! Attraction to someone's looks is only the beginning as appreciation for whats Inside comes to Light!
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I chose "other"
I'm no expert but from what I've seen women are "into" some kind of overall appeal, I guess you could call it "sex appeal" but this appeal embodies some of the characteristics you mention as major factors - confidence, courage, a streak of rebelliousness. Humor and looks also factor in but probably less important than the others. The main appeal is through boldness, displaying that you do not "need" her attention (any even slight hint of desperation will do you in), and also being able to keep her interest not boring her with lame stuff like saying her eyes are pretty.
I also think that what attracts women is usually far different from what they claim they are into, but this might be a difference due to short term attraction vs. Long term planning for a mate. When women think rationally what longterm characteristics do they want in a husband, they will probably list things that play zero role in whether a guy can spark an initial interest that will lead to something longterm.
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All women want an alpha male, a "bad boy", a guy with attitude who knows how to handle himself. Trashy women go with crude, "macho" men who often turn out to be alcoholic, abusive trailer trash or street criminals. Women with class go with responsible, solid men who still have confidence, strength, and an edge.
Sounds about right.
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In my years of experience, I believe women want a 6' 4" Russian with wavy hair who drives a Honda Accord. ;D
Nobody likes Russians.
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I know someone who is ultra liberal. I disagree with her all the time, but she is marrying one of my good friends so I hear from her all the time. She recently went on a Bing of bragging about the beauty of being overweight. I got into an argument with her stating that we should not judge people who are overweight and should not discriminate against them either, but we should not encourage unhealthy lifestyles either. Her case was that big women were beautiful(based on appearance alone) and that people should be able to look in the mirror and like what they see. My counter was that if someone looks in the mirror and their appearance is not worth liking, that it should drive them to improve what they see. Just wondering who agrees with me here and who disagrees with me.
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Nobody likes Russians.
Not in my experience.
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I know someone who is ultra liberal. I disagree with her all the time, but she is marrying one of my good friends so I hear from her all the time. She recently went on a Bing of bragging about the beauty of being overweight. I got into an argument with her stating that we should not judge people who are overweight and should not discriminate against them either, but we should not encourage unhealthy lifestyles either. Her case was that big women were beautiful(based on appearance alone) and that people should be able to look in the mirror and like what they see. My counter was that if someone looks in the mirror and their appearance is not worth liking, that it should drive them to improve what they see. Just wondering who agrees with me here and who disagrees with me.
I think it depends on the person whether they look good or not at a larger size. However there has to be some common sense in that fatter women should generally cover more than other women in order to look good and need to more carefully choose clothing to complement them. Very obese people never look that good (like the 400+ lb range) because people are too distracted by the fat to see their other features such as their eye color or hair color, etc. and it can mask the shape of their face which might otherwise be attractive.
Even very beautiful, fit and trim and young women will look in the mirror and will see mostly their flaws. Most women don't like what they see in the mirror. With that in mind a certain level of self-acceptance is necessary and a good thing. I think at any size and any state of beauty women should accept themselves however this doesn't mean they should accept being unhealthy or should stop striving to improve.
I think everyone both men and women should do what they can to be in the healthy weight range. You can't do everything possible to make this a better world if you're not in the best shape you can be.
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I used to watch that when I was a kid. It does have some good episodes :)
It is still on TV.
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It is still on TV.
They should bring it back, reboot it.... since they are doing that with everything else.
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Women worship money.
I disagree.
Between a stinking rich guy who lacks confidence and is a "whiny mama's boy" (as Dr. Dan put it) and a broke bum who is cocky and presents an aura of toughness, she will pick the latter every single time.
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I know someone who is ultra liberal. I disagree with her all the time, but she is marrying one of my good friends so I hear from her all the time. She recently went on a Bing of bragging about the beauty of being overweight. I got into an argument with her stating that we should not judge people who are overweight and should not discriminate against them either, but we should not encourage unhealthy lifestyles either. Her case was that big women were beautiful(based on appearance alone) and that people should be able to look in the mirror and like what they see. My counter was that if someone looks in the mirror and their appearance is not worth liking, that it should drive them to improve what they see. Just wondering who agrees with me here and who disagrees with me.
My two cents:
I do think there is a gender dichotomy here even if it is contrary to what society says. Overweight men are always gross-looking and usually unhealthy, whereas a woman can be technically overweight or even obese and still remain both extremely attractive and healthy, depending on how her weight is distributed. I am sure most guys agree with this even if they would never admit it in front of their buddies. I think we have all seen women who are 50 or 75 pounds or more (depending on height) overweight (by establishment standards) who have all of that "excess" weight on their hips/buttocks and breasts. The result here is an extremely fetching woman. On the other hand a woman who is just 15 pounds overweight but has all of that on her abdomen or waist is not only unattractive, but very likely unhealthy as well.
As politically incorrect as it is to admit it, women were designed for childbearing and nursing and that is where copious amounts of body fat in the hips, behind, and breasts comes in for biological purposes. They are more fertile and healthy than starving stick women. The women that we would call fat or "Reubenesque" today have been the ideal figure for almost all human history and continue to be in many non-Western cultures.
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My two cents:
I do think there is a gender dichotomy here even if it is contrary to what society says. Overweight men are always gross-looking and usually unhealthy, whereas a woman can be technically overweight or even obese and still remain both extremely attractive and healthy, depending on how her weight is distributed. I am sure most guys agree with this even if they would never admit it in front of their buddies. I think we have all seen women who are 50 or 75 pounds or more (depending on height) overweight (by establishment standards) who have all of that "excess" weight on their hips/buttocks and breasts. The result here is an extremely fetching woman. On the other hand a woman who is just 15 pounds overweight but has all of that on her abdomen or waist is not only unattractive, but very likely unhealthy as well.
As politically incorrect as it is to admit it, women were designed for childbearing and nursing and that is where copious amounts of body fat in the hips, behind, and breasts comes in for biological purposes. They are more fertile and healthy than starving stick women. The women that we would call fat or "Reubenesque" today have been the ideal figure for almost all human history and continue to be in many non-Western cultures.
To each their own. Some men like voluptuous, some like obese, and some like really skinny, and some like muscular. But it's not what is on the outside; it's also the inside that matters. Everyone ages, every gets frailer, and more wrinkly and more bald and fatter if already fat and droopier. When you see your spouse everyday and grow with him/her you essentially become one soul...beauty will always be there as long as the soul and devotion never changes. That's all I can say after close to 3 years of marriage.
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I think we have all seen women who are 50 or 75 pounds or more (depending on height) overweight (by establishment standards) who have all of that "excess" weight on their hips/buttocks and breasts. The result here is an extremely fetching woman.
There are a FEW women who can pull off being overweight, but its VERY rare.... and when these women reach middle ages, the fat looks worse and worse. However... women who are too skinny, tend to look gaunt and even older when they hit this age.
Being a healthy weight looks best... not too skinny, not too fat.... just right.
For men, I havent the foggiest, but most older women tell me they do NOT like men when they get TOO skinny. They start to look petite, and unmanly. (Thats what they say, not me) I have even seen polls that show older women prefer a man with a round belly over a six-pack. This is probably not the case for youner women, but older woman dont like 'cut' men the way people think they do.
But the opposite is awful too.... and of course... the health consequences are pretty severe.
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To each their own. Some men like voluptuous, some like obese, and some like really skinny, and some like muscular. But it's not what is on the outside; it's also the inside that matters. Everyone ages, every gets frailer, and more wrinkly and more bald and fatter if already fat and droopier. When you see your spouse everyday and grow with him/her you essentially become one soul...beauty will always be there as long as the soul and devotion never changes. That's all I can say after close to 3 years of marriage.
That is a very touching post Dr. Dan.
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That is a very touching post Dr. Dan.
Thank you. To me as long add the other isn't a, mental case, nobody is perfect and splitting up is hardly ever an alternative.