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Title: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: muman613 on February 15, 2012, 04:49:55 PM
Many people have bought into the fallacy that the world is warming as a result of human activity. This belief has led to political and social changes including the establishment of new government bureaucracies and courses taught in the school system propagating the idea that humans, unless we change our habits, are going to make this planet inhospitable to life within the next 100 years. Many media outlets have spread fear and misinformation including the History Channel and their doomsday weather programs.

Despite Al Gores belief that by repeating this lie over and over more and more people will jump on the bandwagon there exist a number of scientists who have more pure motivations who are not influenced by the media and the 'Green Lobby' ... Many of these scientists have shown the weaknesses of the Global Warming theories {which have since been renamed Global Weather Change}.

Here is a story which shows that the Snow Pack in the sierras is not receding as some of the Climate Change scientists have suggested.


Study: Sierra snowfall consistent over 130 years

Peter Fimrite

Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Snowfall in the Sierra Nevada has remained consistent for 130 years, with no evidence that anything has changed as a result of climate change, according to a study released Tuesday.

The analysis of snowfall data in the Sierra going back to 1878 found no more or less snow overall - a result that, on the surface, appears to contradict aspects of recent climate change models.

John Christy, the Alabama state climatologist who authored the study, said the amount of snow in the mountains has not decreased in the past 50 years, a period when greenhouse gases were supposed to have increased the effects of global warming.

The heaping piles of snow that fell in the Sierra last winter and the paltry amounts this year fall within the realm of normal weather variability, he concluded.

"The dramatic claims about snow disappearing in the Sierra just are not verified," said Christy, a climate change skeptic and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. "It looks like you're going to have snow for the foreseeable future."

Climate experts and water resources officials were immediately skeptical of the report, pointing out that it doesn't come to a meaningful conclusion and uses data from a ragtag collection of people, many of them amateurs.

Christy's study used snow measurements from railroad officials, loggers, mining companies, hydroelectric utilities, water districts and government organizations going back to 1878. That's when railroad workers began measuring the snowpack's depth near the tracks at Echo Summit using a device similar to a yardstick.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/15/BA8N1N7HNQ.DTL
Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: muman613 on February 15, 2012, 04:54:43 PM


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/02/us-climate-weather-idUSTRE81120K20120202

Storm over climate change among weather forecasters

(Reuters) - You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

But weather forecasters, many of whom see climate change as a natural, cyclical phenomenon, are split over whether they have a responsibility to educate their viewers on the link between human activity and the change in the Earth's climates.

Only 19 percent of U.S. meteorologists saw human influences as the sole driver of climate change in a 2011 survey. And some, like the Weather Channel's founder John Coleman are vocal in their opposition.

"It is the greatest scam in history," wrote Coleman, one of the first meteorologists to publicly express doubts about climate change, on his blog in 2007. "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; it is a SCAM."

The climate change controversy has split the American Meteorological Society, whose members are Americans' prime source of news about weather and climate
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Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: briann on February 15, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
Muman, the reason why global warming has stopped is because of man-made global cooling has countered it.
Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on February 15, 2012, 08:22:42 PM
 Muman this is bogus! If it wasn't for the EPA, Polar bears would be dead and Seals would rule the north pole!
Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: Rubystars on February 15, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
I think there has been some warming as there have been various animals found in places they normally wouldn't be, and some glaciers have receded. However I don't think it's as serious as it's made it out to be plus I don't think human activity is as responsible as some say it is.
Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: briann on February 15, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
Muman this is bogus! If it wasn't for the EPA, Polar bears would be dead and Seals would rule the north pole!

I thought Al Gore was keeping the Seals from being our overlords.
Title: Re: The 'Science' of Climate Change
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on February 15, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
I thought Al Gore was keeping the Seals from being our overlords.
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