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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ScotcH on June 26, 2007, 08:04:02 AM
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This may effect Giuliani's rather Swift start to his '08 BID !!
http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2007/120307Giuliani_onion.htm (http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2007/120307Giuliani_onion.htm)
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I agree. He is a scumbag who used this abominable atrocity to further his career. He did NOTHING for the firefighters and cleaning crews who are now dying of lung cancer because his cheap-arsed contracting did not want to pay for masks for them.
Every word Chaim says about him is right.
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Yeah, I always thought he was a fraud/phony. Remember before 911, he was about to leave office in a disgrace, then all of a sudden he becomes some big hero.
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These accusations are incredibly damning if they are actually true. Hauling off debris peppered with human remains to a human garbage dump is appalling. Who knows if there are any other factors to take into consideration though, who knows that it was completely under Giuliani's control to begin with. There are just too many possible factors to take into account and this Jeff Zack guy seems biased. I wouldn't come to any conclusions until I could hear Giuliani's side of the story, and proof of what this guy is saying. He seems like a conspiracy nut-case because he thinks that Giuliani was warned that the south tower was going to go down and that he was in on some pre-arranged plan to take down the World Trade Center. Sorry, I'm not buying that. Where's the proof that he was warned that the tower was going to come down? If he was told that the tower was going to come down, why does that automatically make him part of a conspiracy? Couldn't it be possible that an expert on the building could have predicted that the tower might fall due to the impact of the plane and the explosion it caused? This guy seems like he definitely has an axe to grind and this could just be politically motivated. I would be willing to bet that this guy is a card-toting democrat who wants to ruin a Republican's chance at the white house. I would not be willing to believe anything this guy says until I hear the same thing from multiple people, and until Giuliani has a chance to respond. Even if all of this turns out to be true, I would still vote for Giuliani ahead of Hillary or Obama.
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YOu know what, I dont' care what anyone says..Guiliani cleaned up David Dinkins terrible mess. I can say that he at least did that..
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YOu know what, I dont' care what anyone says..Guiliani cleaned up David Dinkins terrible mess. I can say that he at least did that..
A good administrator. Not bad when it comes to crime however he is almost as Liberal as the Democrats. Even worse is his position on the immigration problem. He is the lesser of evils thats about it!
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YOu know what, I dont' care what anyone says..Guiliani cleaned up David Dinkins terrible mess. I can say that he at least did that..
A good administrator. Not bad when it comes to crime however he is almost as Liberal as the Democrats. Even worse is his position on the immigration problem. He is the lesser of evils thats about it!
I agree that his liberalism is not a good thing.. Reublicans today are more left of Demoncrats of the 60's...and the Demoncrats of today are practically socialist/communists/sodomites
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We are all in an uphill battle you add Doomberg in this, the idiotic "Independent" voters may end up God forbid gift wrapping the elections for Hillary.
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We are all in an uphill battle you add Doomberg in this, the idiotic "Independent" voters may end up G-d forbid gift wrapping the elections for Hillary.
I don't see why we should be spreading information about Giuliani that could damage his career. The people who support the firefighters labor union and the unionists themselves are all democrats. This is part of a campaign to make sure Hellary or Obama becomes President, why would you want to be part of that and encourage that? There are some things that are honestly more important than what allegedly happened to dead bodies on 9/11 as horrible as that is. The future of the United States is much more important to me than what happened to some dead bodies in the 9/11 rubble who nobody knew were definitely there to begin with. By spreading this kind of stuff on the internet you're playing right into the democrats' hands.
Keep in mind that although these men are indeed heroic, they are hardcore democrats too. They overwhelmingly support socialism, welfare, illegal immigration, affirmative action, and they see people like Giuliani as the enemy rather than Islam.
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Z, I fully agree and it is a union they will never support a Rep candidate no matter who it is, I am not the biggest udy fan. However, no matter how we skice it Hitlery or Obama is worst. You all heard the Demorats there stance on Iran as well pressure on Israel.
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Gulliani is a sick self hating Italian woth no regard to the people that toiled day and night to get reamains so their loved ones could be laid to rest. Rudy is an animal. He did clean up NYC but there has to be a limit.
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I agree that his liberalism is not a good thing.. Reublicans today are more left of Demoncrats of the 60's...and the Demoncrats of today are practically socialist/communists/sodomites
How True ! Many forget that at one time the Dems were Free Trade Parasites that were allowing this country to be taken over by the 3rd WORLD !
Today the Republicans PROUDLY claim full responsibility for the Free-Traitor Policy that are Bankrupting American-owned Businesses and moreover the Economy with record deficits !!!
When the Dems actually started becoming LAZY and more concerned with BABOONS and Welfair...MMM HMMM 8)
That's when the GOP replaced the Dems as the party Screwing Up our economy !!
Remember, this country's most productive times where when we had Protectionist Trade Policies toward Foreign Lands. We dominated World Markets and more importantly the our OWN !!
The ultimate mission of Energy Independence is to start us back on the path of self-sufficiency !!
Giuliani however is just another ANARCHIST New Brand Republican who will ride this economy into the ground, which also will effect our ability to wage War on our MUSLIM NAZI Enemies who are getting rich off our Dollar !!
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FREDERICK Thompson will Certainly trample the 9/11 profiteer once he enters the race... As if he's not Already !!
Drill ANWR and just Maybe Global Warning will EXTERMINATE Aids in AFRICA !! ;D ;D ??? :o
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Scotch,
Why do you like Fred Thompson any better than Rudy? Just like some other conservatives, you're always trying to praise Fred and slam Rudy.
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These accusations are incredibly damning if they are actually true. Hauling off debris peppered with human remains to a human garbage dump is appalling. Who knows if there are any other factors to take into consideration though, who knows that it was completely under Giuliani's control to begin with. There are just too many possible factors to take into account and this Jeff Zack guy seems biased. I wouldn't come to any conclusions until I could hear Giuliani's side of the story, and proof of what this guy is saying. He seems like a conspiracy nut-case because he thinks that Giuliani was warned that the south tower was going to go down and that he was in on some pre-arranged plan to take down the World Trade Center. Sorry, I'm not buying that. Where's the proof that he was warned that the tower was going to come down? If he was told that the tower was going to come down, why does that automatically make him part of a conspiracy? Couldn't it be possible that an expert on the building could have predicted that the tower might fall due to the impact of the plane and the explosion it caused? This guy seems like he definitely has an axe to grind and this could just be politically motivated. I would be willing to bet that this guy is a card-toting democrat who wants to ruin a Republican's chance at the white house. I would not be willing to believe anything this guy says until I hear the same thing from multiple people, and until Giuliani has a chance to respond. Even if all of this turns out to be true, I would still vote for Giuliani ahead of Hillary or Obama.
The Democrats most fear Giuliani in a general election. So it wouldn't be surprising if they were trying to make up lies to smear him.
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We are all in an uphill battle you add Doomberg in this, the idiotic "Independent" voters may end up G-d forbid gift wrapping the elections for Hillary.
I don't see why we should be spreading information about Giuliani that could damage his career. The people who support the firefighters labor union and the unionists themselves are all democrats. This is part of a campaign to make sure Hellary or Obama becomes President, why would you want to be part of that and encourage that? There are some things that are honestly more important than what allegedly happened to dead bodies on 9/11 as horrible as that is. The future of the United States is much more important to me than what happened to some dead bodies in the 9/11 rubble who nobody knew were definitely there to begin with. By spreading this kind of stuff on the internet you're playing right into the democrats' hands.
Keep in mind that although these men are indeed heroic, they are hardcore democrats too. They overwhelmingly support socialism, welfare, illegal immigration, affirmative action, and they see people like Giuliani as the enemy rather than Islam.
I agree. That's why it annoys me that the conservative "Free Republic" forum is always trying to smear Rudy. Barack Osama was the one who attacked the so-called "Freepers" by referring to conservative Christians as enemies.
They may disagree with Rudy over abortion but I don't think he's ever attacked them like that.
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Scotch,
Why do you like Fred Thompson any better than Rudy? Just like some other conservatives, you're always trying to praise Fred and slam Rudy.
Rudy was the top choice for the GOP as of late because of his great story as "the nation's mayor" during 9/11. However, if that story could be discredited as a complete dramatization of the actual events of that unforgettable time, imagine where that would leave him.
He'd be exposed for the true LIBERAL trash he is !
Freddy Thompson is a good ol' fashioned Conservative REDNECK from Tennessee. The man favors drilling in Alaska to get the nation on its way to energy independence, and doesn't believe in the atheist, Existential HUMAN Global Warming Scam that is holding us back from doing just that !
Yes, Thompson is vulnerable on Immigration Policy being in with the Open Borders crowd of racially unconscious Republicans, however like Bush and his MECKIE-Loving Ways he will be handily defeated if he ever attempted to push such a Self-hating Immigration bill through Congress.
FREDERICK is also of course an acclaimed Television Actor and like Reagan, no LIBERAL Putz is going to be able to out role-play a man who knows what it's already like to be in the Spotlight !
The Conservative GOP must live and through a good man's leadership of Law&Order we will strive on and finish off our INSANE Islamic Foe !