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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: Slobodan on June 16, 2012, 05:10:49 PM
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Looks like practically nobody reads the "Save America" subforum (at least not the intelligent ones), so I will also post this thread here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wOZLZRocDKs
The truth will set you free.
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Great video.
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Tell that to the pathetic brainwashed American slaves. They wont even watch the video but they will quickly respond with retarded comments like "conspiracy theory", "tin foil hat theory", "bulshit" and ther favorite and the most retarded comment off them all "lol". And I am not talking just about this forum.
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Sta si ocekivao odusevljenje!?
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Мислио сам да ће их истина занимати, кад оно...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,62118.msg548689.html#msg548689
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/911-nuclear-demolition-of-the-wtc/
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Oh well, I guess Russian experts are just stupid and everything connected with that country is pure evil.
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Мислио сам да ће их истина занимати, кад оно...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,62118.msg548689.html#msg548689
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/911-nuclear-demolition-of-the-wtc/
Could you repeat that in English? Nobody speaks Russian on this forum.
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He said he thought that people in this forum will be interested in truth.
In my opionion at least look at the evidence presented and then make judgments.
It is not Russian language but Serbian.
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Are you guys serious? So we killed our own, just to start war? Have you not learned already from the commies? Really? How will the commies treat you Serbs in the end?
Oh well, I guess Russian experts are just stupid and everything connected with that country is pure evil.
Yes, that is true!!
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Are you guys serious? So we killed our own, just to start war?
That is not what it's claimed in the video at all, on the contrary...
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Па погледај интервју, све је лепо објашњено. Били су убеђени да се у зградама налазе нуклеарне бомбе, јер је 20-ак нуклеарних ракета (снаге 500КТ)украдено од Руса из подморнице. Једна од њиј је погодила Пентагон (нуклеарна бојева глава није детонирана и њу су американци нашли). Да би избегли атмосферску нуклеарну експлозију која би побила милионе људи, морали су хитно да сруше те зграде. Подземна нуклеарна експлозија је претворила зграду и све у њој у прах. Он чак ни не тврди да је то био "inside job", већ да су то једноставно морали да ураде како би спречили катастрофу. Тврди и да једино нуклеарна експлозија може да зграду направљену од челичне конструкције (која не може да се сруши класичном методом контролисаног рушења) претвори у прах.
А ове цитате не знам где си нашао, али бре како може керозин који гори на 850 степени да истопи челик коме је тачка топљења 1800 степени а да би се ослабио потребно је бар 1000 степени. Како може алумијинумски авион који се креће подзвучном брзином да пробије 8 пута по 3 инча челика и да неоштећен нос авиона изађе са друге стране зграде? итд, итд...
Погледај видео, све је објашњено.
Погледај бар прва два сата или бар од првог до другог сата емисије. Ту је објашњено како су срушене зграде.
Watch at least first two hours, or at least from the first to the second hour of the video. That is when it is explained how the buildings were demolished.
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Thing is that nobody watched this video and so lets accuse Slobodan to be conspiracy theorist.
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Yes, that is true!!
So I guess you have seen the video?
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Looks like practically nobody reads the "Save America" subforum (at least not the intelligent ones), so I will also post this thread here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wOZLZRocDKs
The truth will set you free.
Are you saying that certain members on this forum are dumb?
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Better 'dumb' than crazy!
Let's keep wasting time with crazy conspiracy theories.
It is just what our enemies would like us to do.
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This is the type of crap, that you would see on Alex Jones nazi website, Infowhores.com >:(
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Sadly I can quote you the majority of the different conspiracy theories from the majority of the anti-American and anti-Semetic turds in the world.
The reason why they released the offical story is obvious to me, if you take a wild guess who Bush's best buddies are, but reality is rather simple, it happened the same as the first time.
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Slobodan wrote in Serbian, so I will use google translate:
Then see the interview, all explained nicely. They were convinced that the buildings are nuclear bombs, because the 20-odd nuclear missiles (power 500KT) stolen from the Russian submarine. One hit the Pentagon is not feature (nuclear warhead is detonated and the Americans found it). To avoid atmospheric nuclear explosion, which killed millions of people would, they had to immediately demolish the building. An underground nuclear explosion transformed a building and everything in it into a powder. He does not even claim that it was "inside job", but that it simply had to do to prevent disaster. He claims that only a nuclear explosion can be made of steel building construction (which can not topple the classical method of controlled demolition) into powder.
And these quotes do not know where you're found, but how can bre kerosene burning at 850 degrees to melt steel which is the melting point 1800 degrees and that would be weakened, at least 1,000 degrees. How can plane alumijinumski moving subsonic speed to break 8 times at 3-inch steel and undamaged aircraft nose out the other side of the building? etc., etc. ...
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Slobodan wrote in Serbian, so I will use google translate:
Then see the interview, all explained nicely. They were convinced that the buildings are nuclear bombs, because the 20-odd nuclear missiles (power 500KT) stolen from the Russian submarine. One hit the Pentagon is not feature (nuclear warhead is detonated and the Americans found it). To avoid atmospheric nuclear explosion, which killed millions of people would, they had to immediately demolish the building. An underground nuclear explosion transformed a building and everything in it into a powder. He does not even claim that it was "inside job", but that it simply had to do to prevent disaster. He claims that only a nuclear explosion can be made of steel building construction (which can not topple the classical method of controlled demolition) into powder.
And these quotes do not know where you're found, but how can bre kerosene burning at 850 degrees to melt steel which is the melting point 1800 degrees and that would be weakened, at least 1,000 degrees. How can plane alumijinumski moving subsonic speed to break 8 times at 3-inch steel and undamaged aircraft nose out the other side of the building? etc., etc. ...
Yes... ect., ect,.. the crazy story is never ending... I guess one needs a Russian / Serbian mindset to feed into crazy theories about atomic detonations in lower Manhattan :::D
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Slobodan wrote in Serbian, so I will use google translate:
Then see the interview, all explained nicely. They were convinced that the buildings are nuclear bombs, because the 20-odd nuclear missiles (power 500KT) stolen from the Russian submarine. One hit the Pentagon is not feature (nuclear warhead is detonated and the Americans found it). To avoid atmospheric nuclear explosion, which killed millions of people would, they had to immediately demolish the building. An underground nuclear explosion transformed a building and everything in it into a powder. He does not even claim that it was "inside job", but that it simply had to do to prevent disaster. He claims that only a nuclear explosion can be made of steel building construction (which can not topple the classical method of controlled demolition) into powder.
And these quotes do not know where you're found, but how can bre kerosene burning at 850 degrees to melt steel which is the melting point 1800 degrees and that would be weakened, at least 1,000 degrees. How can plane alumijinumski moving subsonic speed to break 8 times at 3-inch steel and undamaged aircraft nose out the other side of the building? etc., etc. ...
Well, "google translate" did not translate it properly.
Then watch the interview, everything is explained nicely. They were convinced that there were nuclear bombs in the buildings, because the 20-odd nuclear missiles (500KT) were stolen from the Russian submarine. One of them hit the Pentagon (nuclear warhead did not detonate) and the Americans found it. To avoid atmospheric nuclear explosion, which would kille millions of people, they had to immediately demolish the buildings. An underground nuclear explosion transformed a building and everything in it into a dust. He does not even claim that it was "inside job", but that they simply had to do it in order to prevent disaster. He claims that only a nuclear explosion can made steel building construction (which can not be demolished using the classical method of controlled demolition) into a dust.
And these quotes, I do not know where you're found them, but how can kerosene, burning at 850 degrees, melt steel which has a melting point of 1800 degrees and in order to weaken the stell, it neads at least 1,000 degrees. How can aluminiume plane moving at subsonic speed penetrate 8 times the 3-inch steel and then undamaged aircraft nose go out the other side of the building?...
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Are you saying that certain members on this forum are dumb?
I have to say yes.
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This is the type of crap, that you would see on Alex Jones nazi website, Infowhores.com >:(
Actualy this topic (I wasnt the one who started it) was locked and the person who started the topic on Alex Jones forum was baned.
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Watch at least first two hours, or at least from the first to the second hour of the video. That is when it is explained how the buildings were demolished.
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Instead of watching this video for two hours to decide it was a nuclear attack, watch 1- 20 seconds of a nuclear bomb exploding video, and decide it was not.
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Instead of watching this video for two hours to decide it was a nuclear attack, watch 1- 20 seconds of a nuclear bomb exploding video, and decide it was not.
At least someone is making sense here, unlike the crazy Serbs on this forum. :clap: :clap: :clap:
No offense to Serbs in general! ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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Instead of watching this video for two hours to decide it was a nuclear attack, watch 1- 20 seconds of a nuclear bomb exploding video, and decide it was not.
There is a difference between an atmospheric and an underground nuclear explosion. Those videos that you seen are explosions much stronger than 150KT (kilo tons), and the bombs are placed much shallower than 77 meters in the ground.
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I dont now for nukes that is most likely nonsense but WTC is demolished in controlled explosions and every smart man can see that on video. I will ask you one question why plane which hits the WTC had no a windows?? And plane has no power to demolish that Big and massive building - physics my friends !!
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I dont now for nukes that is most likely nonsense but WTC is demolished in controlled explosions and every smart man can see that on video. I will ask you one question why plane which hits the WTC had no a windows?? And plane has no power to demolish that Big and massive building - physics my friends !!
I didn't watch the stupid video! Tell me this... why did we blow up our own buildings and kill our people?
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I would honestly bet on this, but your big fancy video certainly doesn't know what happened as well as I, and I've heard the underground bomb one too, which would have knocked a giant hole into the plumbing of the city downtown, so that's silly; muslim workers on each floor of the building strapped with bombs crashed into all four beams floor by floor in domino effect, and the building fell quicker that way. That is more likely than that or literally any one of the know-it-all conspiracy theories I've ever heard on the matter, and I could certainly make a longer movie with more charts and statistics about it.
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I don't think we know the truth. All I know is that official version is little fishy.
This Russian officer claims that all nuclear intelligence community knew about demolition plans for those two well built towers. He claims that there is no other way to bring those buildings down and provides detailed description on how well building were built.
He also says that all buildings in New York must have demolition plans and names crazy company that was involved in all of this.
Whatever might be the truth I feel sorry for loss of lives.
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I didn't watch the stupid video! Tell me this... why did we blow up our own buildings and kill our people?
It is simply! To create the motive for attacking Afghanistan. Do you know how it started the First World War? In terms of the constant fear of terrorism, which would bring the government more power and even the violation of citizens' privacy! Everything is about money and power! If you think that your government loves you, you have a big problem!
That is not stupid video this is a video that was shot during the attack and was broadcast numerous times on television. So conclusion is that you still watched the "stupid videos"!
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It is simply! To create the motive for attacking Afghanistan. Do you know how it started the First World War? In terms of the constant fear of terrorism, which would bring the government more power and even the violation of citizens' privacy! Everything is about money and power! If you think that your government loves you, you have a big problem!
That is not stupid video this is a video that was shot during the attack and was broadcast numerous times on television. So conclusion is that you still watched the "stupid videos"!
Thats funny, i though the first world war was started by the Black Hand. You Serbs wouldn't know anything about that, would you? :read: :read: :read:
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It is simply! To create the motive for attacking Afghanistan. Do you know how it started the First World War? In terms of the constant fear of terrorism, which would bring the government more power and even the violation of citizens' privacy! Everything is about money and power! If you think that your government loves you, you have a big problem!
That is not stupid video this is a video that was shot during the attack and was broadcast numerous times on television. So conclusion is that you still watched the "stupid videos"!
"If you think that your government loves you, you have a big problem!" *readying palm "That is not stupid video this is a video that was... broadcast numerous times on television" *palm -> face
Good thing the government doesn't have anything to do with what's on T.V. or the multimillion dollar worldwide 9/11 conspiracy theory industry. While I honestly do get the feeling they tried what Russia and Europe did, and think they can play with Islam, the attack itself is consistent with traditional islamic jihad. All these security measures would have improved the country, if only they had directed them at Muslims and not the people that need to be defended from them. Oh and terrorism is very real, and probably the majority of countries around the world do live in fear of it.
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Thats funny, i though the first world war was started by the Black Hand. You Serbs wouldn't know anything about that, would you? :read: :read: :read:
You are ustasha so why would we explain our history to you? :o
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I would honestly bet on this, but your big fancy video certainly doesn't know what happened as well as I, and I've heard the underground bomb one too, which would have knocked a giant hole into the plumbing of the city downtown, so that's silly; muslim workers on each floor of the building strapped with bombs crashed into all four beams floor by floor in domino effect, and the building fell quicker that way. That is more likely than that or literally any one of the know-it-all conspiracy theories I've ever heard on the matter, and I could certainly make a longer movie with more charts and statistics about it.
Check out his explanation at beginning of second hour. I believe it is very informative.
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Check out his explanation at beginning of second hour. I believe it is very informative.
I would so love for you to tell me what he says rather than make me look. So now if I understand his accent correctly, America demolished the twin towers because there was a nuke under them, and demolishing the WTC saved New York from nuclear disaster.
Problem is that I know fission better than he. At 1 km under the ground, that's all you need to split the world in two pieces with a 150 mt payload and destroy all life. Probably what Iran is planning. Deep down (before that point), the earth will sustain the bomb, but dropping a big pile of rubble on it will change nothing. This seems absurd. If you watched it, tell me what it says so I can analyze it, because I've wasted enough years watching these types of things, to no productive benefit.
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I would so love for you to tell me what he says rather than make me look. So now if I understand his accent correctly, America demolished the twin towers because there was a nuke under them, and demolishing the WTC saved New York from nuclear disaster.
Problem is that I know fission better than he. At 1 km under the ground, that's all you need to split the world in two pieces with a 150 mt payload and destroy all life. Probably what Iran is planning. Deep down (before that point), the earth will sustain the bomb, but dropping a big pile of rubble on it will change nothing. This seems absurd. If you watched it, tell me what it says so I can analyze it, because I've wasted enough years watching these types of things, to no productive benefit.
He says in case of World Trade Center nuclear device was placed 50m bellow last floor 27 meters underground. For 150mt it is needed 100m of rock to absorb it. Then he talks about cavity, crashed zone, and damage zone. Pressure would go where is least resistance towards surface. Tower at bottom is half empty compared go granite surrounding the device.
Please watch, not sure how to explain as I said. I am not trained in that field (happy to send you PM if you want to know what I do)
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He says in case of World Trade Center nuclear device was placed 50m bellow last floor 27 meters underground. For 150mt it is needed 100m of rock to absorb it. Then he talks about cavity, crashed zone, and damage zone. Pressure would go where is least resistance towards surface. Tower at bottom is half empty compared go granite surrounding the device.
Please watch, not sure how to explain as I said. I am not trained in that field (happy to send you PM if you want to know what I do)
Luckily, I am related to people who are. The nuclear theory did hold for a while, and people started believing it, until we get to the plumbing and this russian just goes back to being a guy that hates America. Nukes don't blow up in just one direction, and by any logic those rocks would be dust, but enough rocks and it'll be feasible up, but unless you add 100m of rocks between the towers and the city plumbing, half of Manhattan would have been cut off from plumbing, and there would be millions of damage to the system, which there was not.
As stands, there seems to have been some planning that prepared the building before-hand, but a nuclear attack is basically absurdity. Find me a non-Russian nuclear physicist that will support that theory.
In Indonesia, the government killed everyone (non-muzzball) under the guise of being a communist. They said this was done because people will believe a big lie more than a small one. They give you so much information, [for free!], they change beliefs that you know also stupid people hold, they make you feel superior to the ignorant folk while also guilty you're not doing anything and invigorate you to bring others "up to your level" so they don't have to be what you now consider "asleep", or a plethora of other words. How could they be doing something bad, when they've clearly given you so much, and even infused new meaning into your life?
A small lie is not quite motivating enough for you to attach strings to yourself, present them to the liar and return religiously to vigorously suckle at the tit of power you think you have discovered from the liar's mouth. A big lie is, due to emotional triggers and false pride in a sense of intellectual superiority you believe to now have as an advantage over others. The less you have to be proud about, the more of this false pride you have though, which is one of the great weaknesses of Arabs.
However, they are also professionals at exploiting that weakness, and I've seen this method innumerable times in these conspiracies. What other opportunity have you had to discuss nuclear physics, or physics in general? Then we see, and it was said here and is certainly not the first time I've seen it from the conspiracy bunch "don't you know physics?".
Daniel Greefield: "It is a sign of how conspiracy theories can warp the mind that such accusations are even made but then when one lives in a universe in which everyone hides a hidden agenda and every seemingly meaningless act conceals a greater purpose, such modes of thinking become inevitable.
The conspiracy theorist like the religious believer assumes that nothing happens by accident but where the religious believer sees that as G-d's hand in the world, the conspiracy theory is gnostic believing that everything happens for a reason...because evil forces are manipulating the world.
Hard core believers in conspiracy theories create a gnostic world, one in which good contends with a nearly omnipotent evil conspiracy that turns the entire world into a web of lies and deceit and whose followers and leaders are capable of making the most convoluted plots succeed and directing the everyday life of the world without anyone but them knowing it. The 'secret knowledge' of the conspiracy theorist is his gnosis enabling him to find the truth in a world ruled by lies.
That very belief though ensures that such a person achieves nothing useful as they labor over what isn't instead of dealing with what is. The world is not run by great conspiracies. A handful of men don't sit in a secret room deciding the fate of the world. The truth is much worse than that. The state of the world is our fault. There are evil men but their efforts would come to nothing if we would stand up to them. Their plans tend to be laughable and pathetic. They succeed because good people do nothing. This blog is an attempt to do something."
Maybe we find out it was a nuke. What the f*** is that going to help you do, or change? Learn about what you can do now, because the NYC isn't having a visible radioactivity sickness problem, and Muslims will continue to blow things up, and will only become "prouder" if they learn there was more destruction, and G-d forbid desensitized to the horrors of a nuclear strike. The liberals responded as they do to any war, and America could have invaded any Muslim country it wished regardless of 9/11, and would have recieved the same criticism and resistance it did. This is a ploy to support the "illegal war" slander from the Muslims, and the "Jews did 9/11" conspiracy.
This film is very convincing though not quite as professional as some of the others I've seen (giving it a real "underground" feel) but does not stand to reality (it is essentially much harder to believe than the "official" narrative) and it is for the purpose of attacking good countries to the benefit of bad ones.
Can we please drop the silly conspiracies? I do this every day with people from my college (the alien ones are the most entertaining) and while I appreciate and thank you for the practice, these shenanigans masquerading as "whistle-blower news" will leave you with nothing real, other than a vicious headache. Don't waste yourself with this garbage, it isn't underground or enlightened, it's a multimillion dollar industry and an anti-American pro-Arab and Russian PR ploy.
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You are ustasha so why would we explain our history to you? :o
hahaha, The Soviet Nazi and Gadaffi worshipping, Serbian Army, Still behaving like a child, by throwing childish insults like a little school boy.
Is that the best you got, Serbian Child?
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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Slobodan, what the hell is your purpose here? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. I'm not so sure you support Israel at all, do you?
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Luckily, I am related to people who are...
It would be good to have them watch the video and then tell us their opinion.
Slobodan, what the hell is your purpose here? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. I'm not so sure you support Israel at all, do you?
The purpose is the truth, for those who are interested in it. And I don't know what Israel has to do with this.
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^^They have seen many and disproved them with the aforementionned facts. I respond to you, even watched a bit of your wacky Russian scientist on his [censored] camera, and you refuse to refute my claim that there would have been catastrophic damage to the plumbing system because you really don't know physics, except as was relayed to you by Russian retards that refute every word Americans say, because they hate America. And Israel.
Oh and that's what this forum's for, silly. Helping the United States of America and Israel, with I guess Europe and India too. What you help is for people to hate their country, and say "see, they lied about terrorists who also literally stab babies in their cribs in Israel, because they're nice guys."
I've seen these commie+muzzie propaganda films water down their message far beyond this to complete obscurity, so that they can just get one beleif in, one foot in the door, and then next one you see you recognize it, and they can slip through and allu ackbar all the common sense you have left.
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I don't understand you, if something like 9/11 happened in Serbia, I would wanted to know the real truth...
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I don't understand you, if something like 9/11 happened in Serbia, I would wanted to know the real truth...
We have been told the real truth already... We do not need some old Russian giving us cold war story twisting opinions of what actually happened... I guess in Serbia and Russia all this digging under the rug is a way of life.
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Well, as I said before, Americans will believe anything as long as it is not the truth...
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Well, as I said before, Americans will believe anything as long as it is not the truth...
Fine... You go on believing that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazdG3-ZETM
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150kt Nukes Demolished Wtc ? - debunking of Dimitri Khalezov's ridiculous claims
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2011-01-16/150kt-nukes-demolished-wtc-debunking-dimitri-khalezovs-ridiculous-claims
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Serbian army, see this. Debunking the debunkers:
www.911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_debunkers-_famous_physicist_Jan_Zeman_vs_infamous_impostor_Dimitri_Khalezov.pdf (This one is the direct answer to the claims above)
and
www.911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_debunkers_addressing_questions_after_10_Feb_2011_Kevin_Barrett%27s_interview.pdf
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Serbian army, see this. Debunking the debunkers:
www.911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_debunkers-_famous_physicist_Jan_Zeman_vs_infamous_impostor_Dimitri_Khalezov.pdf
and
www.911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_debunkers_addressing_questions_after_10_Feb_2011_Kevin_Barrett%27s_interview.pdf
Now I have to debunk the bunk that "truthers" used to debunk the debunking of their initial bunk? Can this thread just go away??? You know how long these theories have been circulating for? For f***'s sake I'm not making a retarded career out of disproving gullible fruits who swallow propaganda from people that dream of their demise. Go away with this shiite s***.
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As I said before, if you are not interested in this then I recomend that you find another topic, like "What kind of pudding Lady Gaga likes" or similar topics of your interest...
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As I said before, if you are not interested in this then I recomend that you find another topic, like "What kind of pudding Lady Gaga likes" or similar topics of your interest...
There is no need for insulting people here, and especially someone like LKZ who is a scientist. Even if all evidence that you provided is correct there is still misunderstanding on your part about 9-11 tragedy. Two of our members here lost close relatives in twin towers. 9-11 is by far greatest tragedy that many living American experienced and you must be careful as people are very emotional about it.
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That was not my intention. In this topic we are not discussing why the buildings were demolished but how they were demolished. And as I said before, if this happened in Serbia I would wanted to know the real truth, especially is someone close to me died in that tragedy.
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That was not my intention. In this topic we are not discussing why the buildings were demolished but how they were demolished. And as I said before, if this happened in Serbia I would wanted to know the real truth, especially is someone close to me died in that tragedy.
Again you want to be stubborn. Lets say you lost a brother in bombing of Serbia and for the next 10 years there are posts on internet trying to uncover which pilot exactly murdered your brother. For some time you read it was man named John from Tennessee. Now some time after that some else comes with another evidence that murdered of you brother is man from Turkey named Abbaz. And then 6 months after that "new evidence" in uncovered that real murderer of you brother is man from Spain who flew that night over area you family lived in. And that evidence is overturn.
Would you have energy to continue search for pilot who murdered your brother or you would feel stress about all those theories?
I am not sure how else to explain to you? Americans are people living in different culture with their habits. Now you can push your way of thinking and they will listen for some time but you cant expect them to be you even if you believe you are 100% correct.
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The purpose is the truth, for those who are interested in it. And I don't know what Israel has to do with this.
It has everything to do; whther you support Israel. Many truthers are pro-Arab. This forum is pro-Israel. I'm new but still I know that because it's pretty obvious. I just joined today and seen so many posts by you and no ones of them showed support for Israel who are brothers of Serbs & Bulgarians and is more important here than arguing over what caused the 9.11 tragedy. I think the user you respond to was asking good question that's relevant everywhere in this forum & why don't you jus tell us?
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Again you want to be stubborn. Lets say you lost a brother in bombing of Serbia and for the next 10 years there are posts on internet trying to uncover which pilot exactly murdered your brother. For some time you read it was man named John from Tennessee. Now some time after that some else comes with another evidence that murdered of you brother is man from Turkey named Abbaz. And then 6 months after that "new evidence" in uncovered that real murderer of you brother is man from Spain who flew that night over area you family lived in. And that evidence is overturn.
Would you have energy to continue search for pilot who murdered your brother or you would feel stress about all those theories?
I am not sure how else to explain to you? Americans are people living in different culture with their habits. Now you can push your way of thinking and they will listen for some time but you cant expect them to be you even if you believe you are 100% correct.
Well, I am stubborn. It is not important who pulled the trigger it is important who ordered it. And again, we are not discussing who or why but how.
It has everything to do; whther you support Israel. Many truthers are pro-Arab. This forum is pro-Israel. I'm new but still I know that because it's pretty obvious. I just joined today and seen so many posts by you and no ones of them showed support for Israel who are brothers of Serbs & Bulgarians and is more important here than arguing over what caused the 9.11 tragedy. I think the user you respond to was asking good question that's relevant everywhere in this forum & why don't you jus tell us?
Do I support Israel? In what way? If you have asked me do I support Serbia, I would have to ask you, in what way. Do I support Serbian government? Of course not. Do I support Israel government? Of course not. Do I support Serbian people and Jewish people? Of Course I do. Would I support Israel if it was attacked by Iran? Ofcourse I would. Would I support Israel if it would attack Iran? Ofcourse not. I will always support the one who is been attacked.
And, again, this topic has nothing to do with Israel.
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Well, I am stubborn. It is not important who pulled the trigger it is important who ordered it. And again, we are not discussing who or why but how.
Do I support Israel? In what way? If you have asked me do I support Serbia, I would have to ask you, in what way. Do I support Serbian government? Of course not. Do I support Israel government? Of course not. Do I support Serbian people and Jewish people? Of Course I do. Would I support Israel if it was attacked by Iran? Ofcourse I would. Would I support Israel if it would attack Iran? Ofcourse not. I will always support the one who is been attacked.
And, again, this topic has nothing to do with Israel.
Also this topic has nothing to do with Serbia so cut the crap and let it be! Idemo dalje batali se corva posla!
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Do I support Israel? In what way? If you have asked me do I support Serbia, I would have to ask you, in what way. Do I support Serbian government? Of course not. Do I support Israel government? Of course not. Do I support Serbian people and Jewish people? Of Course I do. Would I support Israel if it was attacked by Iran? Ofcourse I would. Would I support Israel if it would attack Iran? Ofcourse not. I will always support the one who is been attacked.
And, again, this topic has nothing to do with Israel.
Sometimes the people who are attacked need to be attacked :::D You should always look at the situation... You will never be satisfied until you get a few members here to agree with you that it was the evil United States Government that killed it's own people... America's government has a lot of problems however what your selling is just not possible... This sort of garbage can happen in Russia and in Serbia but even there something of that magnitude would really be pushing the limits of what the population will absorb from their leadership... As I said you can believe what you like it makes little difference to people here in the United States that saw with their own eyes what actually happened.
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Also this topic has nothing to do with Serbia so cut the crap and let it be! Idemo dalje batali se corva posla!
Па, прво сам је поставио у америчкој секцији форума, али тамо су све сами идиоти...
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Па, прво сам је поставио у америчкој секцији форума, али тамо су све сами идиоти...
Sto ti brines brigu tudju o ovakvim stvarima mozes da pricas samo sa ljudima koji imaju taj nivo svesti! Zaro ti kazem mani se corva posla!
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Sometimes the people who are attacked need to be attacked :::D You should always look at the situation... You will never be satisfied until you get a few members here to agree with you that it was the evil United States Government that killed it's own people... America's government has a lot of problems however what your selling is just not possible... This sort of garbage can happen in Russia and in Serbia but even there something of that magnitude would really be pushing the limits of what the population will absorb from their leadership... As I said you can believe what you like it makes little difference to people here in the United States that saw with their own eyes what actually happened.
So USA are better than rest of world only stupid and dirty Slavs can do something like that, is that you trying to say!?
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The first country in the world to publicly and openly supported the creation of Israel was Serbia (Balfour Declaration). The only country in the world in which all nations and religions, especially Jews, have all their civil rights as well as its majority population is Serbia. Jews in Serbia called themselves Serbs of Moses called faith! So do not you talk to me about democracy and human rights and humanity and courage, you who at that time persecuted Native Americans - Indians and kept dark-skinned people from Africa as slaves! You did not even exist when we are defending the Jews. Every sane and honorable Serb knows that Jews are brothers, the same is with true and honest Jews - Serbs are great friends! You who have had a quarantine for Jews, want us to hold the lecture! Please do not talk about something you have no idea!
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So USA are better than rest of world only stupid and dirty Slavs can do something like that, is that you trying to say!?
I don't think you understand his post. Please use Google Translate in future.
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The first country in the world to publicly and openly supported the creation of Israel was Serbia (Balfour Declaration). The only country in the world in which all nations and religions, especially Jews, have all their civil rights as well as its majority population is Serbia. Jews in Serbia called themselves Serbs of Moses called faith! So do not you talk to me about democracy and human rights and humanity and courage, you who at that time persecuted Native Americans - Indians and kept dark-skinned people from Africa as slaves! You did not even exist when we are defending the Jews. Every sane and honorable Serb knows that Jews are brothers, the same is with true and honest Jews - Serbs are great friends! You who have had a quarantine for Jews, want us to hold the lecture! Please do not talk about something you have no idea!
Indians were murdered in numbers but I am sorry to tell that majority of slaves in those day were white folks from Ireland. White slaves outnumbered black slaves by wide margin.
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So USA are better than rest of world only stupid and dirty Slavs can do something like that, is that you trying to say!?
No if I was going to say it I would have... It seems like you have your own ideas on the issue :::D For the record the USA is better than the rest of the world... In just over 200 years its run circles around everyone else... It's just the way it is. :P
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The first country in the world to publicly and openly supported the creation of Israel was Serbia (Balfour Declaration). The only country in the world in which all nations and religions, especially Jews, have all their civil rights as well as its majority population is Serbia. Jews in Serbia called themselves Serbs of Moses called faith! So do not you talk to me about democracy and human rights and humanity and courage, you who at that time persecuted Native Americans - Indians and kept dark-skinned people from Africa as slaves! You did not even exist when we are defending the Jews. Every sane and honorable Serb knows that Jews are brothers, the same is with true and honest Jews - Serbs are great friends! You who have had a quarantine for Jews, want us to hold the lecture! Please do not talk about something you have no idea!
Please no more lectures :'( The other guy has been trying to brainwash us poor Americans for a week now with his 911 plots :'( Now you have us quarantining Jews... :o What next.
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Indians were murdered in numbers but I am sorry to tell that majority of slaves in those day were white folks from Ireland. White slaves outnumbered black slaves by wide margin.
Thank you, Serbian. It is true that slaves were not only black, and in the beginning it was more of a contract to work your way in to America. Also the muzzys had a big hand in African slaves.
There are a lot of variables with the Natives. They fought each other, they fought Whites, they teamed up with Whites to fight other Natives, they teamed up with other Natives to fight Whites! In the war of 1812 some Natives sided with the Brits, others with the American. It did get ugly after the demacrap Andrew Jackson and his manifest destiny!
I do not want to fight with you Serbs, we have a common interests! You love Israel, we love Israel! You do not attack us, and we will not attack you! Lets work together to save Israel!
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I do not want to fight with you Serbs, we have a common interests! You love Israel, we love Israel! You do not attack us, and we will not attack you! Lets work together to save Israel!
I agree and want to tell that my position allows me to understand both cultures.
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Thank you, Serbian. It is true that slaves were not only black, and in the beginning it was more of a contract to work your way in to America. Also the muzzys had a big hand in African slaves.
There are a lot of variables with the Natives. They fought each other, they fought Whites, they teamed up with Whites to fight other Natives, they teamed up with other Natives to fight Whites! In the war of 1812 some Natives sided with the Brits, others with the American. It did get ugly after the demacrap Andrew Jackson and his manifest destiny!
I do not want to fight with you Serbs, we have a common interests! You love Israel, we love Israel! You do not attack us, and we will not attack you! Lets work together to save Israel!
Than don't talk nonsense ! I know cjd this is not first time for him to provoke Serbs!
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Please no more lectures :'( The other guy has been trying to brainwash us poor Americans for a week now with his 911 plots :'( Now you have us quarantining Jews... :o What next.
quarantining Jews - check it out. What was done with the Jew who had fled from Hitler? What was done with those who emigrated after WWII from Europe to America!
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Than don't talk nonsense ! I know cjd this is not first time for him to provoke Serbs!
I am glad I am remembered... No it's not the first time... I am not provoking you... I am only setting the record straight for you ;D For some reason any time I disagree with one or two of the Serb members they feel it a provocation :::D It's like the time one Serb told me America needed a "Nuck" :::D Now how was I going to respond politly to something like that... I always try to be as restrained in my responses as possible for the good of the forum... We have an expression here in "evil America" If you can't take it then don't dish it out :o You have a nice day or evening which ever applies best to you ;D
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quarantining Jews - check it out. What was done with the Jew who had fled from Hitler? What was done with those who emigrated after WWII from Europe to America!
What was done?
My father was barely 18 years old when he went to fight in World War II.
He helped defeat Hitler, along with many other EVIL Americans. A lot of evil Americans never came home to their families. So you can kiss my evil American (fill in the blank). And shove your crazy conspiracies and hatred of America where the sun doesn't shine.
I'm just saying.
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I am glad I am remembered... No it's not the first time... I am not provoking you... I am only setting the record straight for you ;D For some reason any time I disagree with one or two of the Serb members they feel it a provocation :::D It's like the time one Serb told me America needed a "Nuck" :::D Now how was I going to respond politly to something like that... I always try to be as restrained in my responses as possible for the good of the forum... We have an expression here in "evil America" If you can't take it then don't dish it out :o You have a nice day or evening which ever applies best to you ;D
"This sort of garbage can happen in Russia and in Serbia but even there something of that magnitude would really be pushing the limits of what the population will absorb from their leadership..."
you are in right this is not provoke this is an insult!
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What was done?
My father was barely 18 years old when he went to fight in World War II.
He helped defeat Hitler, along with many other EVIL Americans. A lot of evil Americans never came home to their families. So you can kiss my evil American (fill in the blank). And shove your crazy conspiracies and hatred of America where the sun doesn't shine.
I'm just saying.
Ocekivao sam i tebe teleca macko ti i cjd ste ko stanio i olio, ko betmen i robin, boni i klajd....!
No one denies that! But Serbia lost about 2 000 000 people slightly less than half of the population!
about 1 000 000 in Jasenovac concentration camp!
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Ocekivao sam i tebe teleca macko ti i cjd ste ko stanio i olio, ko betmen i robin, boni i klajd....!
No one denies that!
That right there should not be allowed on the JTF forum. Post in English. That is cowardly.
You don't even know who your enemies are. By denying who really attacked the U.S. on 9/11, you are supporting the Muslim terrorist. That makes you one of them in my eyes.
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That right there should not be allowed on the JTF forum. Post in English. That is cowardly.
You don't even know who your enemies are. By denying who really attacked the U.S. on 9/11, you are supporting the Muslim terrorist. That makes you one of them in my eyes.
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That right there should not be allowed on the JTF forum. Post in English. That is cowardly.
You don't even know who your enemies are. By denying who really attacked the U.S. on 9/11, you are supporting the Muslim terrorist. That makes you one of them in my eyes.
I expected you cat cow, CJD and you're like Laurel and Hardy, like Batman and Robin, Bonnie and Clyde ....!
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I understood what you wrote! :::D I don't give a darn what you think about where, what or how I post.
Cat Cow. ;D That"s me! Does it make you feel better if we name call? I have one for you too.
I agree with Slobodan on the importance of knowing the truth but there's just no way terrorists could have snuck two nuclear bombs into the buildings without being spotted by security. That's what makes that whole theory absurd. After the 1993 WTC bombing, terrorists knew that the only way they could get anywhere near the WTC was by flying planes into them and that's what they did.
So what truth is he selling, Serbstvo?
That the American government is evil.
He is trying to justify his hatred of America.
At the same time he dishonors all the people who died on 9/11 and lets our enemies off the hook.
That is crazy nonsense we don't have time for at this critical juncture in history.
We must keep our eyes on November. We must keep our eyes on the goal of removing the enemy in the White House with the 2012 Presidential election.
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This sh*t getting so stupid. It was a tragedy, Bush was a horrible president who don't care about America, and the Arabs want America to be dependent on their oil which is why I think they may have did it to get America to invade the Mideast- that way the're more wars over oil and Americans more dependent so Arabs get more money. That's why I am against the war. Essentially I think 9.11 happened as bait for war over Americans fighting for wealthy Arab billionaires and losing so much soldiers, and 'Dubya' took the bait.
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Bush was responsible for the first WTC attack too, I suppose!
Plus, all the terrorist attacks on the U.S., that occurred on foreign soil, preceding 9/11. Those too!
Oh...now I see the light.
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I understood what you wrote! :::D I don't give a darn what you think about where, what or how I post.
Cat Cow. ;D That"s me! Does it make you feel better if we name call? I have one for you too.
So what truth is he selling, Serbstvo?
That the American government is evil.
He is trying to justify his hatred of America.
At the same time he dishonors all the people who died on 9/11 and lets our enemies off the hook.
That is crazy nonsense we don't have time for at this critical juncture in history.
We must keep our eyes on November. We must keep our eyes on the goal of removing the enemy in the White House with the 2012 Presidential election.
So you have enemy in the White House!? Good luck!
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I understood what you wrote! :::D I don't give a darn what you think about where, what or how I post.
Cat Cow. ;D That"s me! Does it make you feel better if we name call? I have one for you too.
Good for you!
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The neocons (Bushians), libs, and Arab leaders are all evil! The Arab people are all stupid sheep.
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Ok, look... no more of this conspiracy stuff. It's so insane. I know there are videos about it and all... claiming we did this to ourselves rather than putting the blame where it belongs, on the muslim nazi terrorists, really makes the forum look like a joke.
And personal insults are against the forum rules. I'm locking this thread.
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