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Title: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: christian_love on June 29, 2007, 05:18:58 PM
I know you lot want this to die down, as do i, i have calmed down now. I thought very highly of allen t, very highly of him, and i think hes been treated very harshly,but....

I apologise for my comments, i love chaim to bits, i love the jews to bits, they are great people. I hope that you all forgive me for my earlier actions, as i dont want chaim to think i am evil, as i am not.

So i apologise, and i hope you will all forgive me and we can continue ending islam, because we are winning, this battle...

thanks...
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 29, 2007, 06:14:02 PM
I really don't get all this business and i'm not sure i really want to but sure I FORGIVE YOU. ;D

Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: christian_love on June 29, 2007, 06:18:47 PM
I really don't get all this business and i'm not sure i really want to but sure I FORGIVE YOU. ;D



aw your sweet sarah you dont even know what you are forgiving me for   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: newman on June 29, 2007, 06:23:27 PM
Sarah,

Christian love is right. you're too sweet.You cannot come from an Islamic background....no no no no no.  You must really be a jewish girl.lol :-*
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 29, 2007, 06:47:34 PM
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aw your sweet sarah you dont even know what you are forgiving me for
For Nothing. I don't think you have done anything wrong, expressing any view or action doesn't have to be wrong, its whatever you believe it goes against that lets you assume so. Plus you love Chaim and so do i and that certainly levels out everything.

Sarah,

Christian love is right. you're too sweet.You cannot come from an Islamic background....no no no no no.  You must really be a jewish girl.lol :-*

Hey, newman, stop trying to ruin my bad kick-ass reputation!
Anyways i have to disappoint you there, i'm not jewish............neither am i a girl :laugh: No I'm joking.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: christian_love on June 29, 2007, 06:48:58 PM
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aw your sweet sarah you dont even know what you are forgiving me for
For Nothing. I don't think you have done anything wrong, expressing any view or action doesn't have to be wrong, its whatever you believe it goes against that lets you assume so. Plus you love Chaim and so do i and that certainly levels out everything.

Sarah,

Christian love is right. you're too sweet.You cannot come from an Islamic background....no no no no no.  You must really be a jewish girl.lol :-*

Hey, newman, stop trying to ruin my bad kick-ass reputation!
Anyways i have to disappoint you there, i'm not jewish............neither am i a girl :laugh: No I'm joking.

may i ask what faith you are saarah.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: MasterWolf1 on June 29, 2007, 06:52:14 PM
Christian_love, I am a very proud devoted Catholic, I grew up from parents who also were very devoted, I went 12 years in Catholic school so I take my faith seriously. But thats for my belief, I wouldn't want someone force their belief down my throat and my belief down their throat.  If we all start doing this we will be acting the same way the Islamics do.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 29, 2007, 06:54:08 PM
I was born a muslim, lived as one for 14 years and recently have become a Noahide, though am fairly involved in Islamic things during my day which isn't my choice. I'm thinking things through before i make a definite choice.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: christian_love on June 29, 2007, 06:59:05 PM
Christian_love, I am a very proud devoted Catholic, I grew up from parents who also were very devoted, I went 12 years in Catholic school so I take my faith seriously. But thats for my belief, I wouldn't want someone force their belief down my throat and my belief down their throat.  If we all start doing this we will be acting the same way the Islamics do.

i have never forced my faith down anyones throat on this forum....
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: newman on June 29, 2007, 06:59:48 PM
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aw your sweet sarah you dont even know what you are forgiving me for
For Nothing. I don't think you have done anything wrong, expressing any view or action doesn't have to be wrong, its whatever you believe it goes against that lets you assume so. Plus you love Chaim and so do i and that certainly levels out everything.

Sarah,

Christian love is right. you're too sweet.You cannot come from an Islamic background....no no no no no.  You must really be a jewish girl.lol :-*

Hey, newman, stop trying to ruin my bad kick-ass reputation!
Anyways i have to disappoint you there, i'm not jewish............neither am i a girl :laugh: No I'm joking.

You just gave me a fright! I got horrible mental picture like something out of that "crying game" movie. :o
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Lisa on June 29, 2007, 09:06:33 PM
Hi there Christian_Love.

I'm glad you want to stay.  You're a good poster.  Like I told Nic Brookes, if ever something is bothering you on the forum, don't hesitate to PM either me, Jeffguy, Christopher or the other mods/admins, along with posting your questions to Chaim.  We'll do our try and make things better. 
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: mord on June 29, 2007, 09:55:38 PM
Well i did'nt notice the comments either :laugh:
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: mord on June 29, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
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neither am i a girl  No I'm joking.
Your a man named Sarah :o :laugh:
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 30, 2007, 04:51:07 PM
Norman everyday i am convinced by JTF but then go to school the next day and  my firm beliefs are outnumbered or eliminated by arguements defending Islam. I don't know. Despite everything i am a very slow person, it takes me a couple of hours to do a 15mins homework.

My Mums parents converted to Islam when they were in their final years then my mother met my father who is Moroccan, and reverted to Islam like my grandparents.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 30, 2007, 04:54:09 PM
Sarah, how is this any different from the constant messages in public schools that gay sex is normal and healthy or that evolution is a fact?

No matter where you go, you will be bombarded with worldly and perverse teachings. If you really question the truth about Islam, just ask yourself one simple question: would you have comfort walking down the street in a Muslim neighborhood of England (let alone an Islamic country) announcing that you have decided to convert to Buddhism (let alone Christianity or Judaism)?
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 30, 2007, 05:04:17 PM
It is extremely different. Religion is somewhat different to nauseating scientific lies. Its the feeling, Chaimfan you see these things as a fact, clear evidence, i see it as the same bias that Islam may also give at times. A lot of sense can be distinguished from both.

If i did that down a muslim street, in an ISLAMIC COUNTRY, most of the people would laugh, others would think i was mentally disturbed and the rest wouldn't care less.

Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: newman on June 30, 2007, 05:08:46 PM
It is extremely different. Religion is somewhat different to nauseating scientific lies. Its the feeling, Chaimfan you see these things as a fact, clear evidence, i see it as the same bias that Islam may also give at times. A lot of sense can be distinguished from both.

If i did that down a muslim street, in an ISLAMIC COUNTRY, most of the people would laugh, others would think i was mentally disturbed and the rest wouldn't care less.



Do that in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran , Sarah and you would be torn limb from limb or stoned to death.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Dr. Dan on June 30, 2007, 05:57:23 PM
Sarah, take your time figuring out what works for you. I think in the end, you'll make the right choice.
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 30, 2007, 06:18:37 PM
Well you tell me they are brainwashing me and they'll tell me that they aren't and you are.

Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 30, 2007, 06:28:45 PM
The muslims. A punishment for leaving Islam is to be killed but there is a verse in the Quran saying, "There is no compulsion in religion."
Title: Re: can i apologise for my earlier comments
Post by: Sarah on June 30, 2007, 06:50:11 PM
Sarah, do the Muslims tell you that Muhammad didn't have sex with 9 year old Aisha?

Yes i was told that she was promised to him at that age and he took care of her, teaching and preparing her in keeping secure the knowledge of the hadiths that were to come. I was also told that Muhammed knew that one day Aisha will be the key contributor to sustaining the prophets hadith and sunnah and therefore, engaged at such a young age so that she would be kept safe from harms way and start her duty. Also, that he only started to have sexual relations with her when she was around 17 to early twenties.
Again i was told, the Quran makes reference to Aisha's age ,  who as the wife of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) has been referred to in the Quran as bikh, this word bikr means "Virgin" and is not age-specific....

This is what i was told.