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Title: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Shlomo on July 27, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
Google Chrome browser is spyware that reports every URL you type, every search, and every download you do to Google. By using Google Chrome, all of your privacy is being handed to Google marketing - every web address and search you type - even if you never hit enter. Chrome sends every download - the URL and IP of the host and other meta data such as the file’s hash and binary size - to Google.

More information can be found here:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

I recommend you do not use the Chrome browser. Use Firefox or Internet Explorer.

SRWare Iron is a good browser based off the Chrome source code.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security
Google Chrome gets criticism from data protection specialists. The browser is based on the Chromium-source and offers the same features as Chrome - but without the critical points that have privacy concerns. What does Iron makes different? Read here (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php).
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: muman613 on July 27, 2012, 03:41:20 PM
Google Chrome browser is spyware that reports every URL you type, every search, and every download you do to Google. By using Google Chrome, all of your privacy is being handed to Google marketing - every web address and search you type - even if you never hit enter. Chrome sends every download - the URL and IP of the host and other meta data such as the file’s hash and binary size - to Google.

More information can be found here:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

I recommend you do not use the Chrome browser. Use Firefox or Internet Explorer.

SRWare Iron is a good browser based off the Chrome source code.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security
Google Chrome gets criticism from data protection specialists. The browser is based on the Chromium-source and offers the same features as Chrome - but without the critical points that have privacy concerns. What does Iron makes different? Read here (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php).

Chrome does have a "Incognito" feature which purports that it doesn't send all this information to google. I have not verified if this is the case {by doing 'packet sniffing' one can determine exactly what it being sent back to google}. I do like Chrome because I keep my bookmarks and history on google and can access it on any machine I have given my credentials on.... I use about six machines every day {not including virtual machines} and it is convenient to have my history and bookmarks synchronized.

When doing sensitive browsing I do switch to incognito mode... We should make sure it is really as secure as they claim it to be...
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 27, 2012, 03:47:23 PM
Google Chrome browser is spyware that reports every URL you type, every search, and every download you do to Google. By using Google Chrome, all of your privacy is being handed to Google marketing - every web address and search you type - even if you never hit enter. Chrome sends every download - the URL and IP of the host and other meta data such as the file’s hash and binary size - to Google.

More information can be found here:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

I recommend you do not use the Chrome browser. Use Firefox or Internet Explorer.

SRWare Iron is a good browser based off the Chrome source code.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security
Google Chrome gets criticism from data protection specialists. The browser is based on the Chromium-source and offers the same features as Chrome - but without the critical points that have privacy concerns. What does Iron makes different? Read here (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php).

What's wrong with Google knowing that? Aren't we all being monitored/traced anyways? My friend told me if somebody so much as tries to search  the words "child porn", the feds will be at your door withing a matter of minutes.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Shlomo on July 27, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
Muman: No one is going to switch their browser into privacy "Incognito" mode every time they launch it. That is an invalid argument. Most people here don't even know what you are talking about, and you sound like you are trying to completely negate the danger. If you use Chrome like any normal user, your information is sent to Google, period. Why defend Google? You want to help and defend Google that's owned by 2 self-hating Jews that donate to every cause we stand against including the destruction of Israel? They give millions of dollars to obama. They give millions of dollars to gay marriage. Why would we help Google? And so, muman, would you prefer to have every person have all their browsing privacy trampled on and sold to advertisers because you like bookmark syncing? Why are you trying to sell people on Chrome now and make it look attractive? Would you let all your family's information be sold?

Mo: "Aren't we all being monitored/traced anyways?" is a dangerous thing to say. While I understand, there are places where you are tracked, and places you are not - and it takes work to fight. And where we are tracked, why make it worse? We are obligated to fight evil.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: LoneRanger on July 27, 2012, 04:50:35 PM
I'll bet that this is the same for Internet Explorer.  You have to use a browser.  And the price of it being "free" is that they get to tap your browsing history and send it to advertisers.  If there is a "pay" browser that doesn't do this, let me know.  It is the same thing for search engines and for media players.
Nothing on the internet is really for free.  If you can delete your shopping cookies every 30 seconds off your computer, you might block some sites from accessing them but that is not really accessing the web.  So that is the price you pay.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 27, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
Muman: No one is going to switch their browser into privacy "Incognito" mode every time they launch it. That is an invalid argument. Most people here don't even know what you are talking about, and you sound like you are trying to completely negate the danger. If you use Chrome like any normal user, your information is sent to Google, period. Why defend Google? You want to help and defend Google that's owned by 2 self-hating Jews that donate to every cause we stand against including the destruction of Israel? They give millions of dollars to obama. They give millions of dollars to gay marriage. Why would we help Google? And so, muman, would you prefer to have every person have all their browsing privacy trampled on and sold to advertisers because you like bookmark syncing? Why are you trying to sell people on Chrome now and make it look attractive? Would you let all your family's information be sold?

Mo: "Aren't we all being monitored/traced anyways?" is a dangerous thing to say. While I understand, there are places where you are tracked, and places you are not - and it takes work to fight. And where we are tracked, why make it worse? We are obligated to fight evil.
But I'm asking what's so bad as long as non-evil people are tracking you for non-evil reasons? Like I could care less since I don't do anything illegal.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 27, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
I don't use chrome though. I'm just really ignorant on the subject (as I am on most things), and I am here to learn.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Shlomo on July 27, 2012, 05:12:59 PM
That is making the assumption that anything you want to keep private by default must be illegal, which of course is a broad incorrect assumption.

Within the last century, the nazis tried to exterminate the Jewish people using information from IBM to identify Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Each day that goes by, we are losing freedom of speech and first amendment rights.

Internet explorer does not spy on your browsing information unless you have certain toolbars installed (like the Google toolbar). Most toolbars are trackers.

Your safest bet is to use Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/) with the Ghostery addon (http://www.ghostery.com/).
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 27, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
That is making the assumption that anything you want to keep private by default must be illegal, which of course is a broad incorrect assumption.

Within the last century, the nazis tried to exterminate the Jewish people using information from IBM to identify Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Each day that goes by, we are losing freedom of speech and first amendment rights.

Internet explorer does not spy on your browsing information unless you have certain toolbars installed (like the Google toolbar). Most toolbars are trackers.

Your safest bet is to use Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/) with the Ghostery addon (http://www.ghostery.com/).

How do u use ghostery?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: muman613 on July 27, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
Muman: No one is going to switch their browser into privacy "Incognito" mode every time they launch it. That is an invalid argument. Most people here don't even know what you are talking about, and you sound like you are trying to completely negate the danger. If you use Chrome like any normal user, your information is sent to Google, period. Why defend Google? You want to help and defend Google that's owned by 2 self-hating Jews that donate to every cause we stand against including the destruction of Israel? They give millions of dollars to obama. They give millions of dollars to gay marriage. Why would we help Google? And so, muman, would you prefer to have every person have all their browsing privacy trampled on and sold to advertisers because you like bookmark syncing? Why are you trying to sell people on Chrome now and make it look attractive? Would you let all your family's information be sold?

Mo: "Aren't we all being monitored/traced anyways?" is a dangerous thing to say. While I understand, there are places where you are tracked, and places you are not - and it takes work to fight. And where we are tracked, why make it worse? We are obligated to fight evil.

I am not defending google, I am stating that the product works well for me... I use android OS so google already knows everything about me...

I am concerned about loss of privacy... And this is why I mention the Incognito mode. Firefox has a similar feature...
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Israel Chai on July 28, 2012, 12:05:44 AM
I bet they sell the information to screw over businesses. What could be a bigger security threat than a company that makes money from your information? Not necessarily from the company either, considering anyone could exploit this system that literally the whole world has access to. If I chose when and where I deem it appropriate to share private or sensitive information that's fine, but I can't believe one person said well taking everyone's information will stop child porn. Google could just block that content anyways which it does, and do you in you're right minds think that they would do this whole expensive tirade of controlling the internet that dictatorships all around the world do for such a knightly pursuit, if they couldn't earn money or power? If that crap shows up on google, that person is going to jail, because the whole world with internet knows, and cops and easily arrest them. Obviously if people search for a giant text that they just wrote about how they're gonna kill people, and searches like that and child/rape/... porn and like hundreds of scenes of people being killed, or people killing like household pets come up, google should turn the ip over to the police. There's a record of just that anyways which is hunky dory, but not my website visits. Google usually does the first site before and after with its cookies, which sucks, but you don't want everything, people could also basically figure out which days you're home more, and there's a million reasons why releasing private information is bad.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: briann on July 28, 2012, 01:03:27 AM
I actually use incognito all the time.  I just press shft cntrl n whenever I want a clean slate.

Chrome is just so much faster for what I do; much cleaner... and there are plenty of extensions out there for those who are worried about cookie tracking.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: LoneRanger on July 28, 2012, 07:54:57 AM
Internet Explorer is incompatible with Windows 7 so you are left with only Google Chrome. 
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 28, 2012, 08:38:56 AM
Internet Explorer is incompatible with Windows 7 so you are left with only Google Chrome.

nice joke.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: serbian army on July 28, 2012, 09:41:03 AM
Thanks Shlomo. I just installed Firefox and must say that it is faster than Chrome. Other day I was very concerned about surfing on internet with Chrome. If I visit page to look for something the advertisement shows on totally unrelated pages where you would never expect. This is my last posting here with Chrome. Google had cost me nice amount of money this year. They support gay marriage? Wow, thanks for the warning. 
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 28, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
That is making the assumption that anything you want to keep private by default must be illegal, which of course is a broad incorrect assumption.

Within the last century, the nazis tried to exterminate the Jewish people using information from IBM to identify Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Each day that goes by, we are losing freedom of speech and first amendment rights.

Internet explorer does not spy on your browsing information unless you have certain toolbars installed (like the Google toolbar). Most toolbars are trackers.

Your safest bet is to use Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/) with the Ghostery addon (http://www.ghostery.com/).
I appreciate the warning and I'm sure you're right but for the time being, I don't think law-abiding citizens have anything to fear. At least I don't.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 29, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
What's wrong with Google knowing that? Aren't we all being monitored/traced anyways? My friend told me if somebody so much as tries to search  the words "child porn", the feds will be at your door withing a matter of minutes.

yea right.  If that was the case a lot more pedofiles would be in jail right now .  If only they would be so strict on pedophiles!  Google spies on you to make money off you.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: serbian army on July 29, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
I have some problems with Firefox plugins so I must use Chrome.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 29, 2012, 04:52:32 PM
I have some problems with Firefox plugins so I must use Chrome.
Did you try downloading the plug in and manually?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: serbian army on July 29, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
Yes, but with no success.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 29, 2012, 04:56:24 PM
Yes, but with no success.
did it act like it was downloading and then disappear?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: serbian army on July 29, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Its like I can download it but when I open regular internet pages  it gives me some errors which are hard to get rid off.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 29, 2012, 05:20:47 PM
Its like I can download it but when I open regular internet pages  it gives me some errors which are hard to get rid off.
was it adobe 11 plug in?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: serbian army on July 29, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
yes
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 29, 2012, 07:30:44 PM
yes
Did it go through the whole process? I had to go into my downloads and run it
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 30, 2012, 07:19:25 AM
what about:
Opera for PC
Opera for phone
Dolphin for phones and devices
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on July 31, 2012, 11:02:51 AM
I recently got GoogleCrome to download video's and MP3. Now they blocked the downloading of MP3 files. Anyone know of any other way to download free mp3 (music) ?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 31, 2012, 01:45:06 PM
I recently got GoogleCrome to download video's and MP3. Now they blocked the downloading of MP3 files. Anyone know of any other way to download free mp3 (music) ?

That's terrible! The nerve of them!
Well, you've come to the right place for help!
muman can help you in this area.
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: muman613 on July 31, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
I recently got GoogleCrome to download video's and MP3. Now they blocked the downloading of MP3 files. Anyone know of any other way to download free mp3 (music) ?

Well there are ways.... If you can download the video stream you can split the audio stream using a variety of tools {depending on which Operating System you are using}. Linux has a bunch of handy tools {ffmpeg,mplayer, etc.} which can be used to encode an mp3 stream extracted from a transport video stream. Some of these tools are available for Windows also. Several commercial {for pay} utilities are available to do this also.

If you want to be able to record from internet radio there is a way using mplayer...

Contact me via PM if you want more specific info...
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 31, 2012, 03:44:18 PM
Well there are ways.... If you can download the video stream you can split the audio stream using a variety of tools {depending on which Operating System you are using}. Linux has a bunch of handy tools {ffmpeg,mplayer, etc.} which can be used to encode an mp3 stream extracted from a transport video stream. Some of these tools are available for Windows also. Several commercial {for pay} utilities are available to do this also.

If you want to be able to record from internet radio there is a way using mplayer...

Contact me via PM if you want more specific info...

WHAT!!?
Aren't you mr anti-piracy?
What happened?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 31, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
WHAT!!?
Aren't you mr anti-piracy?
What happened?
I knew that was coming!
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on July 31, 2012, 03:48:13 PM
Well what if you want to download Chaim's video's but in MP3 format to listen to later on ipod?
Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: muman613 on July 31, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
WHAT!!?
Aren't you mr anti-piracy?
What happened?

I am anti piracy.... I believe the technology to extract audio and video streams is not illegal. What is illegal is to copy something and attempt to make money from it. I do believe that for personal use we should be able to extract audio from a video stream. Of course with this knowledge comes the ability to break the law... But just as owning a gun should not be illegal, shooting someone who didn't deserve to be shot with it should be illegal.

Title: Re: Do NOT use Google Chrome - Security Warning
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 31, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
yea right.  If that was the case a lot more pedofiles would be in jail right now .  If only they would be so strict on pedophiles!  Google spies on you to make money off you.
Since I'm broke anyway, I have a very "meh" attitude about that. Is it right? No, but I can't muster up that much outrage.