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Title: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: The One and Only Mo on August 17, 2012, 06:17:36 AM
http://kdvr.com/2012/08/14/study-egg-yolks-almost-as-dangerous-as-smoking-cigarettes/

Whether they’re fried, over-easy or scrambled—eggs are a favorite at The Egg & I, and at home.

“In the morning, a soft-boiled egg is really easy to prepare and I don’t have to wash any dishes,” chuckles restaurant customer Jo Ann Hudson.

“I like the flavor,” says another customer, Siv Feierabend.

They’re full of healthy protein, vitamins and fatty acids.

But a new study says the cholesterol in egg yolks is almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes—two-thirds as bad.

“I definitely think it can be confusing,” says registered dietician Jessica Crandall with Denver Wellness and Nutrition in Englewood.

Crandall says the study is one of many to deal with egg yolks that offer contradictory conclusions.

This one found both smoking and regularly eating egg yolks accelerates plaque buildup in arteries that can lead to heart attacks and stroke.

Data from 1,262 people in London show those eating three or more yolks a week had significantly more plaque than those who ate two or fewer yolks a week.

“One large egg has 100 calories, 230 milligrams of cholesterol in the yolk,” says Crandall.

She says we should have no more than 300 milligrams of cholesterol a day.

She recommends eating no more than three egg yolks a week.

“I’m not concerned about it,” says Feierabend.

But egg eaters crack up at the study’s concept.

“I never heard anyone get second-hand cholesterol from eating eggs either. You have the second-hand smoke,” says customer Raymon Allen.

“What’s good for you today is bad for you tomorrow. There’s so much research and studies, you have to be really able to decipher and read between the lines. I’m not going to panic about eggs,” says customer Kathryn Bannister

Crandall says there’s conflicting research on whether eggs affect people’s cholesterol levels.

Some studies say they do, some say they don’t.

Also, this study did not take into account factors such as exercise, waist size and genetics.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on August 17, 2012, 06:38:08 AM
I know. I'm a half dozen eater for 20 years. I've got to quit eggs.
I remember when I was a boy. My mom said: here son try some eggs mwaaarrraawwwaaa!!
And I was hooked. I now have artery cancer and black heart.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: cjd on August 17, 2012, 07:02:06 AM
Eat up time is short... Soon the food police will have everyone out picking field greens (dandelions) at the side of the road for dinner... A few eggs a week is not going to kill anyone with a normal system.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: cjd on August 17, 2012, 07:10:14 AM
I know. I'm a half dozen eater for 20 years. I've got to quit eggs.
I remember when I was a boy. My mom said: here son try some eggs mwaaarrraawwwaaa!!
And I was hooked. I now have artery cancer and black heart.
Have mercy.... A black heart.... I thought you only got that from eating "chitlins" and hog jaws fricassee  :::D
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 17, 2012, 07:46:06 AM
Well egg white is good for you.  One option is to boil eggs, throw the yolk away with the shell, and eat the white part.

And when you throw away the yolk you pretty much throw away almost all the nutrients in the egg. I'm certainly not a proponent of eating three eggs a day every day. I will usually have eggs on the weekend, which amounts to about 4 eggs a week, and I never throw out the yolks.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Rubystars on August 17, 2012, 07:54:57 AM
Eggs are a whole, natural food that's been eaten for all of human history. Anything eaten to excess can be bad for you but eating eggs is a good way to get a lot of nutrition and protein.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: cjd on August 17, 2012, 07:56:27 AM
And when you throw away the yolk you pretty much throw away almost all the nutrients in the egg. I'm certainly not a proponent of eating three eggs a day every day. I will usually have eggs on the weekend, which amounts to about 4 eggs a week, and I never throw out the yolks.
I agree... Besides it seems to me that the whites of the egg are the hardest part of the mess to clean away after the meal... If 4 eggs a week is  going to do a person in they are on their way to problems no matter what they eat.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 17, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
And when you throw away the yolk you pretty much throw away almost all the nutrients in the egg. I'm certainly not a proponent of eating three eggs a day every day. I will usually have eggs on the weekend, which amounts to about 4 eggs a week, and I never throw out the yolks.

No, you don't throw away all the nutrients, in fact.   You get a few less grams of protein by eating the whites only, but it's still quite nutritious and still a great source of protein even from the whites.   I usually eat both the white and the yolk since I only rarely have eggs.   Back when I ate eggs more often I would occassionally have only egg whites.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 17, 2012, 08:40:46 AM
No, you don't throw away all the nutrients, in fact.   You get a few less grams of protein by eating the whites only, but it's still quite nutritious and still a great source of protein even from the whites.   I usually eat both the white and the yolk since I only rarely have eggs.   Back when I ate eggs more often I would occassionally have only egg whites.

Umm, yeah, you do.

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html (http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html)

Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Zelhar on August 17, 2012, 08:59:35 AM
I think regular egg eaters should consider eating only the egg white. It's not like you need the extra calories and cholesterol from the egg yolk. I haven't eaten an egg for over 11 years but I can recall that the yolk in a boiled egg isn't the tasty part anyway.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 17, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
This is probly gonna sound rediculous, but I use to drink four raw eggs daily, and I do not have any problems with cholesterol.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 17, 2012, 09:17:11 AM
Baloney, and I don't even like eggs.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on August 17, 2012, 09:31:25 AM
Baloney, and I don't even like eggs.

I eat baloney and eggs.

If you don't have a medical problem, just eat.
The reason why they keep coming up with these death foods is: control.
Not a joke. These filthy communist/socialist/fascists scum want to control every aspect of your life. And how better to do so than with the disguise called: care.
They pretend that its for your own good.
These masochists want control.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on August 17, 2012, 09:36:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDtgnQ0fy4
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on August 17, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
i love eggs, but hate the yolk part. So it wudnt matter to me anyways.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Zelhar on August 17, 2012, 11:51:52 AM
I can't rule out that some researches are garbage,  and it's true that imbecilic food advocates like Múchelle are indeed seeking control. However allot of the research is legitimate and with good intentions. We all want to find out how to increase our chances of enjoying good health. It is not a political question.

If PETA tells you that eating flesh is bad for your health they have agenda and you would be fools to just believe them, but if a series researcher who is honestly trying to find out what's more and what's less healthy to eat tells you and provide you with legit data, well you can ignore him but don't just dismiss that by saying it's a leftist with an agenda.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: syyuge on August 17, 2012, 02:28:50 PM
I was eating eggs from the age of sixteen to thirty six years @ 2 to 6 eggs per day and at least two of them being raw. Thenafter I felt like developing some mild allergy from them and left eating the eggs. Now I understand that all those egg suppliers were almost invariably muslamics. Lol...

Eggs feel like highly energetic and nutrient. Anyhow, regarding such researches I can not understand that how the fat/cholesterol present in the eggs can travel and deposit directly in to the arteries without getting chemically converted and digested by the stomach and the liver. Lack of enough physical activity may be the worst reason for such problems.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: IsraelForever on August 17, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
First I read that smoking was bad.  Then I read that coffee was bad.  Now I'm reading that eggs can kill you.  I just made up mind.... I'm giving up reading!
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: muman613 on August 17, 2012, 08:05:08 PM
I love beating eggs...
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Rubystars on August 17, 2012, 08:28:26 PM
I think regular egg eaters should consider eating only the egg white. It's not like you need the extra calories and cholesterol from the egg yolk. I haven't eaten an egg for over 11 years but I can recall that the yolk in a boiled egg isn't the tasty part anyway.

The yolk has a lot more flavor than the bland white part.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 18, 2012, 04:41:18 AM
Egg yolks are very healthy but in moderation
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Israel Chai on August 18, 2012, 05:25:16 AM
Egg yolks are very healthy but in moderation

An overdose of anything is poison. However, you can eat a dozen eggs a week, and I can attest that nothing will happen, except faster muscle growth, and other lovely things.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 19, 2012, 04:23:48 AM
And moderation of egg yolks have health benefits in a healthy individual. Cigarettes have only deleterious effects even in moderation.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2012, 07:57:43 AM
Umm, yeah, you do.

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html (http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html)

If eggs are your only source of vitamins you already have a dietary problem to begin with.
That chart shows there are plenty of nutrients in egg whites.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Israel Chai on August 19, 2012, 11:25:20 AM
If eggs are your only source of vitamins you already have a dietary problem to begin with.
That chart shows there are plenty of nutrients in egg whites.

If all you ever eat is eggs, you will die of numerous deficiencies. Anyone will trade an egg for an apple and a bit of rice, so you'll survive. Is that a straw man attack?
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on August 19, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
http://blogs.menshealth.com/bellyoff-nutritionist/egg-yolks-more-dangerous-than-smoking/2012/08/15/
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 19, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
If eggs are your only source of vitamins you already have a dietary problem to begin with.
That chart shows there are plenty of nutrients in egg whites.

I don't quite understand your argument. Who ever said anything about only eating eggs? I simply said that by throwing away the yolk you throw away most of the nutrients, not all, since egg whites contain some, most. That charts confirms my point.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Rubystars on August 19, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
The yolk contains most of the nutrition in the egg, and most of the flavor. I don't think there's enough evidence to show that eating cholesterol raises serum cholesterol.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 22, 2012, 07:02:36 AM
I just got some info on the "study" referred to in this thread. Apparently it wasn't so much a study as it was a survey based on peoples' self reported eating habits. It seems like there was no control over isolating variables. So basically someone was asked how many egg yolks they ate but was not asked whether they smoked, ate excessive amounts of sugar, ate high levels of trans fats, drank excessively, etc. Sounds like a bit of a flawed study to me.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: syyuge on August 22, 2012, 09:13:53 AM
Any such egg eating and artery scale deposition studies shall be done only on the persons who have cholesterol levels less than 200 mg/dL Units (Max limit 240 mg/dL Units). Only then the justification of such studies can be established.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 22, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
If all you ever eat is eggs, you will die of numerous deficiencies. Anyone will trade an egg for an apple and a bit of rice, so you'll survive. Is that a straw man attack?

I have no idea what you just said or how it relates to what I wrote.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 22, 2012, 04:03:16 PM
I don't quite understand your argument. Who ever said anything about only eating eggs? I simply said that by throwing away the yolk you throw away most of the nutrients, not all, since egg whites contain some, most. That charts confirms my point.

I said what I said because you are implying that the yolk contains most or all of the NUTRIENTS.    But looking at the chart you provided, that is clearly not the case.   The yolk contains many vitamins and some minerals, but these are usually acquired from other sources of food anyway, in plenty of abundance.  The chart you provided shows that there are still plenty of nutrients in the egg white.    It is a good source of protein, for instance (even though less grams than are in a yolk - that still doesn't make it lack protein!  An egg white still has more high quality protein packed into it than most other foods).
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 23, 2012, 06:58:48 AM
I said what I said because you are implying that the yolk contains most or all of the NUTRIENTS.    But looking at the chart you provided, that is clearly not the case.   The yolk contains many vitamins and some minerals, but these are usually acquired from other sources of food anyway, in plenty of abundance.  The chart you provided shows that there are still plenty of nutrients in the egg white.    It is a good source of protein, for instance (even though less grams than are in a yolk - that still doesn't make it lack protein!  An egg white still has more high quality protein packed into it than most other foods).

Yeah, no argument there from me. I was not implying that the yolks are everything and the whites are nothing. I basically agree with Rubystars comment regarding  lack of evidence showing that eating cholesterol raises serum cholesterol. As such I just think that throwing away half an egg is a waste of nutrition and money.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Rubystars on August 23, 2012, 07:06:24 AM
I just ate two boiled eggs this morning! *watches the clock* I'm still here!!! Yay!  8)
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: HiWarp on August 23, 2012, 11:37:15 AM
I just ate two boiled eggs this morning! *watches the clock* I'm still here!!! Yay!  8)

Oh, oh, better schedule a couple of hours of cardio this afternoon. :o
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Rubystars on August 23, 2012, 11:45:51 AM
Oh, oh, better schedule a couple of hours of cardio this afternoon. :o

Well considering I'm going to be going to work tonight, I'll probably be asleep this afternoon!
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: The One and Only Mo on August 23, 2012, 11:47:29 AM
Let's pour money into raising an egg farm and a tobacco farm to nurture the poor, hungry "Palestinians". We will feed them as many cigarettes to smoke and eggs to eat as possible. Whatever happens, happens.
Title: Re: Study: Egg yolks almost as dangerous as smoking cigarettes
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 23, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Yeah, no argument there from me. I was not implying that the yolks are everything and the whites are nothing. I basically agree with Rubystars comment regarding  lack of evidence showing that eating cholesterol raises serum cholesterol. As such I just think that throwing away half an egg is a waste of nutrition and money.

Perhaps.  I'm also not convinced yet on this subject but plan to look into it further at some point.