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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mord on August 30, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
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http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com/2008/01/florida-italian-americans-jewish-roots.html
Anania, Garo, Ventura, Viterbo, Barone, Campagna, Costantino, Amato, Balsamo, Marino, Mazza, Romano, Staiti, Bonfiglio, Bruno, Brigandi, Bonanno, Capua, Carafa, Filomarino, Caracciolo, D'Aquino, Monforte, Mele, Gesualdo, Palermo, Milano, Napoli, Pistoia, Montalto, Amantea, Salerno, Speranza, Spagnolo, Cimino, Cristiano, Buono, Giardino, Perna, Licastro, Renda, De Rose, Pugliese, Siciliano, Jenco, Russo, De Masi, Romano, Brancato, Pane, Margiotta, Panaro, Pisciotta, Mozello, Rotoli, Catalano, De Pasquale, Mondella, Chiarelli, De Mayo, Ferraiolo, Foderaro, Orefice, Ferraro, Pignataro, Speziale, Tranquillo, Leone, Dattilo, Simone, Ricca, Stella, Fiore, Gentile, Gioia, Greco, Luzzatto, Del Vecchio, Del Giudice, De Sarro, Diamante, Vitale, Di Giacomo, Di Giovanni, Di Matteo, D’Alessandro, De Pascali, Di Nola, Di Napoli, Di Lentini, Di Rende. (Compiled by Professor Vincenzo Villella)
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I can really see a similarity in the physical appearance between Italians and the Ashkenazi Jews. There must have been a good bit of mixing between them throughout time. I once read a study that their genetic clustering is closest to the Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews may be a few shades lighter in skin tone than the Italians living in the center of Italy, but not enough to throw off the similarity. I'm a few shades lighter than my Italian friends, but lots of people think I'm Italian.
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I can really see a similarity in the physical appearance between Italians and the Ashkenazi Jews. There must have been a good bit of mixing between them throughout time. I once read a study that their genetic clustering is closest to the Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews may be a few shades lighter in skin tone than the Italians living in the center of Italy, but not enough to throw off the similarity. I'm a few shades lighter than my Italian friends, but lots of people think I'm Italian.
Actually Italian Jewry is not ashkenazi but considered on a class of its own. And as far as genetics, they are probably closer to Sefaradim because many Jews fled from Spain to Italy (including many whom converted by force).
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Thanx, I could not find the only surname that I was searching for. Now I do not have any fear of the Zionist Conspiracy.
;D
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Actually Italian Jewry is not ashkenazi but considered on a class of its own. And as far as genetics, they are probably closer to Sefaradim because many Jews fled from Spain to Italy (including many whom converted by force).
Sorry to pop your bubble, but Italian Jews can absolutely be Ashkenazi.
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So that's why Ray Romano has such a big nose. :laugh:
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So that's why Ray Romano has such a big nose. :laugh:
I think the Mediterranean air caused that problem. It smells so good, we developed large schnozolas to suck in more air. :laugh:
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Sorry to pop your bubble, but Italian Jews can absolutely be Ashkenazi.
They are their own "ada". They have their own type of sidur, and minhagim. So yes they can be ashkenazim if they are not originally Italian Jews or for some reason they choose to be ashkenazi.
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I can really see a similarity in the physical appearance between Italians and the Ashkenazi Jews. There must have been a good bit of mixing between them throughout time. I once read a study that their genetic clustering is closest to the Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews may be a few shades lighter in skin tone than the Italians living in the center of Italy, but not enough to throw off the similarity. I'm a few shades lighter than my Italian friends, but lots of people think I'm Italian.
I wouldn't say that there was mixing. I think they are both in the Meditaranean sub-race of White, which I and most Bulgars (partially) belong to as well. In addition Greeks, Berbers, most Arabic-speaking Christian Semites, Spanish, Portuguese, some Balkan Slavs, some Turks, some Romanians, some Slovenes, and some Ukrainians also belong to this sub-race, and most Maltese do partially.
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One friend (Italian) told another friend (Jewish) that she is a living copy of her sister.
I wonder, can some of these surnames be both Italian-Italian and Italian-of-Jewish-origin? I am asking because there are quite a few German last names that could be both German and Jewish. My name is one such. It could be both German and Jewish with an equal chance.