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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on September 30, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
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I don't know the context of his comments but this is very upsetting...
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/cindy_adams/no_more_israel_h4kjPIab5EtBjAxsWoFYoO
Henry KISSINGER. Former secretary of state. Current savant of the state of the world. Do not argue with Mr. Kissinger’s know-how. He already knows how.
Middle East horror. Democratic party dissing Jerusalem. DC’s anti-Israel mentality. Obama, busy raising re-election funds, no time for beleaguered Netanyahu. The Oval Office attitude versus the Red Line. Iran’s oath to destroy our only friend in that part of the world.
Reported to me, Henry Kissinger has stated — and I quote the statement word for word: “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”
I repeat: “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”
I originally heard of this through Newsmax, and there is supposedly a story on Jerusalem Post where Kissingers staffers deny he ever made such a comment...
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I don't know what to believe, the liberal media may have just made it up?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/kissinger-staffer-ex-secretary-of-state-didnt-make-no-israel-quote/
WASHINGTON (JTA) — A staffer for Henry Kissinger denied that the former US secretary of state said that Israel will not be in existence in 10 years.
“It’s not a misquote,” Tara Butzbaugh, who works in Kissinger’s New York office, said Monday, referring to an item in Cindy Adams’ New York Post gossip column. “He didn’t say it.”
Adams in her column posted Sept. 17 wrote that “Reported to me, Henry Kissinger has stated — and I quote the statement word for word: ‘In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.’ “
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Not sure how reliable a source Cindy Adams is, but Kissinger is a repulsive human being. He basically bought into the idea that Communism was going to overtake the west and the best Democratic nations could hope for is to negotiate a more favorable decline. He is a defeatist who makes himself rich and powerful promoting his garbage.
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too bad he wasn't gone ten years ago.
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Kissinger was a hard guy to figure out: He did a reasonable job for Nixon, negotiating America out of the Vietnam war, using the classic good cop (Kissinger) vs bad cop (Nixon) method. That's the plus side. The downside was that everybody realized that South Vietnam was doomed to fall regardless of that so-called Paris peace treaty, because the North Vietnamese would just start attacking again after U.S. troops left. And so it went.
Reagan absolutely loathed Kissinger. When Reagan ran against Ford for the 1976 Republican party nomination, Reagan described Kissinger as having 'an almost hypnotic control' over Ford, and that wasn't a compliment.
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Henry Kissinger is almost 90 years old. The fact that is still alive is a disgrace. Hopefully he will die before Israel does.
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(http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.308099.1292113907!/image/2120689769.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/2120689769.jpg)
Kissinger was excommunicated (put in to cherem) by a Beth Din already in 1976!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/59259474/The-Excommunication-of-Henry-a-Kissinger (http://www.scribd.com/doc/59259474/The-Excommunication-of-Henry-a-Kissinger)
(http://imgv2-2.scribdassets.com/img/word_document/59259474/255x300/5288418137/1341951152)
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It doesn't matter if Kissinger said it or not. His opinion is irrelevant because Hashem puts the fate of Israel on the hands of His Jewish nation. Overall, all 13-14million Jews.
Kissinger is one rasha so it doesn't matter.
I recall that the entire world thought it was the permanent end for Israel in 1967 but Israel won in 6 days. Henry Kissinger's opinions are invalid and worthless. Words from a G-dless rasha who would make such arrogant claims. Only Hashem decided what will happen in the world, not Henry Kissinger.
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too bad he wasn't gone ten years ago.
Well put.
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Never forget that Israel would have lost the 1973 Yom Kippur War had Nixon not overidden the evil Court Jew Kissinger's orders to the US Army not to resupply the beleaguered IDF.
(http://www.thejc.com/files/imagecache/body_portrait/Henry-Kissinger_0.jpg)
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I'v read over the years it was Alexander Haig who told Nixon to help Israel in the 73 war.
Remember all the European countries didn't want to help Israel in the 73 war.
Haig is the real hero.
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Then THE WORLD will not exist ! Behold a Pale Horseman ! >:(
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I don't know if Kissenger has it in him to reverse all the terrible things he did. What is so shocking is that among many Jews he is considered a hero... When we look at what he actually did we find that he was a very wicked villain.
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This article gives a religious Jewish perspective on this:
http://www.torah.org/features/firstperson/Nixon-Kissinger.html
What the Newest Nixon-Kissinger Tape Reveals
by Jonathan Rosenblum
The tape of conversations between President Richard Nixon and his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger released this week contained some pretty ugly stuff, but no great surprises with respect to Nixon. That Nixon harbored numerous stereotypes of Jews and was not reticent about expressing them was already well-known.
Indeed Nixon's discussion of Jews' "insecurity" on the just released tape pales in comparison to what has already been published, much of which is highly toxic. In some of those earlier tapes, Nixon describes Jews as "born spies" and "disloyal," and suggests that his administration was "trying to run this town while avoiding Jews in government."
And yet, Nixon's White House was filled with Jews: his chief counsel, Leonard Garment; chief economic advisor, Herbert Stein; chief speechwriter, William Safire; campaign manager, Murray Chotiner; and, above all, his first national security advisor and later secretary of state, Henry Kissinger.
Israeli prime minister Golda Meir credited Nixon with having saved Israel in 1973 by ordering a massive airlift of arms to Israel, while war still raged. Nixon not only responded to Israel's pleas for new arms, at a time the Soviets were busy rearming Egypt and Syria, he did so over the foot-dragging of the Pentagon and State Department. He specifically ordered Kissinger and Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger to expedite the transfer of supplies to Israel. At one point, he asked for an assessment of Israel's military needs. When Schlesinger provided him with it, he told his shocked Secretary of Defense to double it.
In particular, Nixon overruled Kissinger on the airlift. The latter hoped that a more vulnerable Israel would be more compliant with his grand diplomatic designs to both bring peace to the Middle East and freeze the Soviets out of the action.
The contrast between Nixon's evident anti-Semitism and ongoing stream of ugly statements and his rescue of Israel and employment of many Jews has long puzzled commentators. But actually it is not nearly so big a paradox as they make out. There are many levels and types of anti-Semites. Genteel anti-Semites, for instance, try to avoid the company of Jews and generally harbor a number of negative stereotypes about them. At one time, genteel anti-Semitism excluded Jews from certain law firms, universities, country clubs, and from professions, like banking. On the plus side, it served as a barrier to intermarriage.
Nixon did not come from the genteel classes, and his anti-Semitism went beyond what was commonplace in those circles. Stereotypes about Jewish loyalty and propensity for spying were far from harmless stereotypes about personal habits and manners, and could have caused grave danger to the status of Jews in America.
But Nixon was not obsessed with Jews. He could control his anti-Semitic outbursts. They were confined to private conversations, never displayed in public. At least in part, they were likely synonymous with blowing off steam at liberals, which most Jews were and still are. Ugly, yes; but not so far gone that he could not think rationally when it came to Jews or the state of Israel. He did not see the world, as did Hitler, ym"sh, and other lethal anti-Semites, as a cosmic struggle between the forces of good on one side and the Jews on the other.
In 1970, three years before the massive airlift of armaments to Israel in the Yom Kippur War, Israel's then ambassador to Washington, Yitzchak Rabin told Rabbi Moshe Sherer, long-time president of Agudath Israel of America, that Nixon had done more for Israel than John F. Kennedy, even though he knew very well that only 8% of American Jews had voted for him. Rabin did not deny that Nixon was quite likely an anti-Semite, but told Rabbi Sherer, "Nixon really believes and understands Israel's cause." Rabin felt that much of the credit for that probably belonged to evangelist Billy Graham.
WHAT ULTIMATELY HORRIFIES in the just released tapes is not Nixon but Kissinger. The latter had barely escaped his native Furth with his family in 1938, and he had witnessed the Nazi brutality towards Jews first-hand. Nineteen close family members died in concentration camps. He knew all the arguments that had been used by the Roosevelt administration to avoid taking serious action to rescue Europe's Jews, on the grounds that the overriding American interest was in winning the war as soon as possible.
And yet in the tapes, we hear him telling the president, after a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, at which she pleaded for American pressure to secure the release of more American Jews: "The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern." That remark did not come in response to anything Nixon had said. It was Kissinger who initiated the conversation, and it was he who added the entirely gratuitous statement that even sending Jews to the gas chambers would not be an American concern. Nixon never came close to that.
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What are you so worried about? Kissinger has always been a self hating Israel-hating piece of human filth who grovels before the enemies of the Jewish people in order to be praised as a good loyal jewboy. True galuthi trash who desecrates the name of the Jewish people and the name of God. It wouldn't be a surprise at all if he said something like this.