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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Every Jew AK47 on January 15, 2013, 05:00:20 AM
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Why on Earth on a Jewish Kahanist forum do you make such an important topic not accessible to a Jewish Kahanist like myself??? I am not an Honorable Wing Member, so I can no longer view the very thread I started, "Our Worst Nightmare Is Starting To Happen In New York.. Magazine Seizure! Guns Next!". This is a thread about the rights of New Yorkers being infringed and a call to action and you censor the article so that only moderators or "wing members" can view it?
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It's back up now. I had to remove and edit the posts in it because it could cause us legal problems.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Btw LKZ has been banned.
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Ok, Thanks Irish Zionist. I apologize for the confusion. When I saw it said "Moved to Honorable Wing Members Forum" I had no clue what was going on. I fully respect you removing his comments as they were certainly a liability.
It is an important topic, so I am glad you were able to remove the irrational responses that are bound to happen on a public forum.
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Irish Zionist is cool!
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May i ask why lkz was banned?
He seems to me to have good intentions but sometimes says things in a hard to comprehend way.
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May i ask why lkz was banned?
He seems to me to have good intentions but sometimes says things in a hard to comprehend way.
He'll probably be back under another name anyway like most of our trolls.
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May i ask why lkz was banned?
He seems to me to have good intentions but sometimes says things in a hard to comprehend way.
Muman, he was banned because he was mouthing off about shooting politicians.
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It's back up now. I had to remove and edit the posts in it because it could cause us legal problems.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Btw LKZ has been banned.
It's about freaking time.
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I just want to know what was so trollish about him?
Granted he said things in a way where most of the time you would ask yourself what you were reading.... But sometimes he made some interesting posts.
Sometimes others here say even more outrageous things and nobody says anything.
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I just want to know what was so trollish about him?
Granted he said things in a way where most of the time you would ask yourself what you were reading.... But sometimes he made some interesting posts.
Sometimes others here say even more outrageous things and nobody says anything.
He was warned numerous times about making threats to Government Officials and he kept doing so. It's not worth the risk and I stand by this ban.
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I just want to know what was so trollish about him?
Granted he said things in a way where most of the time you would ask yourself what you were reading.... But sometimes he made some interesting posts.
Sometimes others here say even more outrageous things and nobody says anything.
So you think it is okay for JTF to tolerate threats that will land us in trouble with the FBI and Secret Service? Do you want us to get shut down and hauled off?
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So you think it is okay for JTF to tolerate threats that will land us in trouble with the FBI and Secret Service? Do you want us to get shut down and hauled off?
Of course not. I am one of the ones most concerned with JTF being a legal organization. I did not see the message which he apparently posted. And I believe he was capable of making such outrageous statements. Some of the things he said were certainly pushing the limits of reason.
If he said such things he should have been dealt with. It is not in my hands to decide what to be done. I will give the benefit of the doubt to the moderators. But he always seemed to be reasonable if you pushed him in the right direction. I did not always believe everything he said, but eventually I started to think I understood him.
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Of course not. I am one of the ones most concerned with JTF being a legal organization. I did not see the message which he apparently posted. And I believe he was capable of making such outrageous statements. Some of the things he said were certainly pushing the limits of reason.
If he said such things he should have been dealt with. It is not in my hands to decide what to be done. I will give the benefit of the doubt to the moderators. But he always seemed to be reasonable if you pushed him in the right direction. I did not always believe everything he said, but eventually I started to think I understood him.
Irish Zionist answered your question. So drop it!!
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Irish Zionist answered your question. So drop it!!
Drop what? There is nothing wrong with asking questions and making observations? Is there?
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It's back up now. I had to remove and edit the posts in it because it could cause us legal problems.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Btw LKZ has been banned.
OH WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You banned LKZ......... well, I guess it was only a matter of time.
It was almost as if he was always testing the bounderies of this forum.... like he WANTED to be banned at times.... he even initially had that ''wolf in sheeps clothing avatar'. But oh well... he will be back... and in greater numbers.
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LKZ is probably a young kid. Rowdy.
He may not mean harm. Who knows.
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I just want to know what was so trollish about him?
Granted he said things in a way where most of the time you would ask yourself what you were reading.... But sometimes he made some interesting posts.
Sometimes others here say even more outrageous things and nobody says anything.
It's ok to say something outrageous here. It is not ok to say something illegal here. Big difference.
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It's ok to say something outrageous here. It is not ok to say something illegal here. Big difference.
I certainly understand. But remember I did not see what he wrote. I believe that he was capable of making those kinds of statements. I am not defending them.
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LKZ is probably a young kid. Rowdy.
He may not mean harm. Who knows.
I agree he was not malicious but he is welcome here only with a gentleman's agreement to abide by the rules of the law and the forum. He was unwilling to agree to that. His fault, not irish zionist's. But yes he is probably not malicious.
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I agree he was not malicious but he is welcome here only with a gentleman's agreement to abide by the rules of the law and the forum. He was unwilling to agree to that. His fault, not irish zionist's. But yes he is probably not malicious.
The hypersensitive government would only see a threat regardless of whether someone is serious or malicious. Some things must be kept to oneself. Government scrutiny is something this community does not need and anything gun related will be scrutinized. When our government considers people potential terrorists just for quoting the constitution, owning a gun, reading the Bible or Torah (but NOT the Qur'an), you must be very careful of what you say and do.
Edited to fix typo
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This isn't the first time he posted crazy stuff.
There was one post about the JTF meetings where he said he would want to go all out, rent a place, hire a speaker, and hopefully kill terrorists.
Then there was the other post he made about shooting up the Vatican. (Us Jews are no fans of the Roman Catholic Church, but still, we're a law abiding organization.)
So I'm with Irish Zionist on this one.
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I think what IZ did with banning LKZ was a good idea and I bet he didn't take banning him too lightly.
I think we should keep a watchful eye on members who either make posts that are violent or too racialist.
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I wonder if LKZ was a plant by one of the fake Kahanist parties.
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This isn't the first time he posted crazy stuff.
There was one post about the JTF meetings where he said he would want to go all out, rent a place, hire a speaker, and hopefully kill terrorists.
Then there was the other post he made about shooting up the Vatican. (Us Jews are no fans of the Roman Catholic Church, but still, we're a law abiding organization.)
So I'm with Irish Zionist on this one.
After a while it was hard to take any of that seriously.
I just hope he finds some help because he clearly needs some guidance.
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The main help he needs is getting off the drugs.
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He needs to be committed if you ask me.
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I personally think LKZ will be back.
HINT:
www.fakeip.org
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I wonder if LKZ was a plant by one of the fake Kahanist parties.
Or even StørmFrønt for that matter?
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Looks like a couple of you have been holding something in that you've wanted to say to me for a while. I don't actually care that I was banned, because it really works out perfectly for me considering my schedule thankfully just became much busier. Either way, I'm doing super Jewish stuff now, and I'm not even going to get into all the things I have to learn and do considering I wasn't raised Jewish but now I'm at that alone, as well as college so I'm like Abraham and the only Jew too extreme for the JJL, this makes me way cooler.
Anyways, the one thing I actually wanted to say, was you don't know me Rubystars. You would say something like that that about me, even though I've only ever used marijuana and even then I only might now spend $20 every several months. I have a job and I go to school and I work out all while trying to stay informed. Say that after some trumped up "charge", (for making a joke about what to do with with the other three bullets they wanted from the magazine, and obviously not naming any names, so you know maybe the entire politician workforce might get bodyguards now, so ban me, who cares?) and now it suddenly looks like people on this forum for months can be psychotic drug users that are running around trying to kill people. Now you look bad, and the threat is suddenly credible based on that solely, and obviously, anyone who reads that will have that in mind when they read any of what I wrote, sort of like writing under a picture.
As for IrishZionist, clearly I wasn't worth that much to this forum so whatever dude, I don't even really know you, have fun with your banning thing. All anyone had to do was tell me to go once (not including my very first post where obviously everyone was right to say I was wrong [but perhaps not mostly assume that I'm Dr. Evil]) and I would have. Why would I be somewhere I'm not useful?
For whatever your name is that always changes just say, I did what I thought was right after reading masada2000.org and finding out that you made it, and decided I would share what I know and learn stuff here, and I always find something most people haven't seen to do that. As for you saying I am a Nazi from StørmFrønt, which I guess you have their weird o thing on speed post or something for, first, this is the first and very last forum I will ever use. I don't think you're even worth responding in turn to, because valuable space is something I do not give to those who have none. I called you guys racists when I came here, but after really listening to rabbi Kahane, I learned to apply the concept of defamation is the last refuge of the non-thinker. You think I can bring people to this forum now? What do you think, I'm going to tell them to read that and distribute it to all their friends? I study psychology, if you controlled politics, it would be an even more terrible day for the world than it is now.
Chinese Kahanist: you're cool. I would do paintball on seadoos and cho ko nu crossbow moose hunting with you. Apparently, people like your jokes better than mine. Peace.
The only thing that actually hurt me was when Muman said that he could see me "making these types of statements" after what everyone said, even though I obviously hold no ill-will toward him. It shows everyone succeeded, everything about me is seen as worthless or a negative. I've been called enough things not to let squabble affect me, but the only person who really say that anything about me is worth anything (and Chinese Kahanist still technically call me a liar and some little kid who was a complete fraud making up a life, which is less bad than a fraud who is a Nazi, which being called has brought shame upon my grandparents and the memories of their families) still think I could be a nut even though he likes me. Obviously, I won't be coming back here because I'm not wanted even just to read what you say, because I found the best way to deal with bad memories is to leave them in the past. Send me something here [email protected], I had to make the email to make the account, and I'll check it for the next little bit, and maybe if I have questions about Judaism or something in the future you could help me out. I can get you good ways to make money too, as always.
As for the forum, I am still completely convinced that Chaim is capable of making a mass movement, but not on this forum. If the JDL was like that, everyone would have been caught and compromised and every plan would be foiled and nothing would work. It also attracts the kind of person willing to sit there and type stuff on a forum. I don't get caught up on details personally, and what some people were saying was good enough to see past that point, most won't, so there has to be a better way. Do what rabbi Kahane did. Surely one of the things here was worth standing up against in more than a speech on youtube.
So I'll never come back or tell anyone to come here, but I got pretty much everything politically, and though small talk on matters may sharpen it, I've got other things to study right now. I actually thought people liked that I was saying things, so next time you don't want someone on your forum, tell them you don't want them on the forum. Bye now.
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I would like to just say that my comment was made because I had not seen the message which was deemed offensive. I give the benefit of the doubt to the moderators who made the decision. But I do believe you did not have evil intentions.
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Jewishrebelx,
Chaim has forgiven you. In this weeks ask JTF he invites you to come back with the warning that some things cannot be said on the forum. I for one would appreciate if you give this forum another chance.
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Rubystars, fluttershy should just be glad Obama doesn't eat ponies! I was going to complain about the artistic style of that show, but then I looked up the one from 1992 and I was like holy s*** those things are scary
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A word of warning to everyone.. Avoid making any type of threat, whatsoever against a government official or even "the government". Seriously, everything you write here is recorded and considering the reputation the JDL and any JDL-like group has, you can bet feds skim over the pages and look for keywords, using specialized software, which can identify posts like these easily.
I don't want some person getting a site like JTF shut down, because somebody was upset and wrote the wrong thing. I am on several gun forums, which are all monitor by the feds and they are very fast to ban and remove posts from people who make threats of any kind, especially to governing bodies. Whether these threats be made in a joking manner or serious. Many times the government will simply tell domain providers to shut down the specific domain so it can no longer operate if they believe it works against their agenda or is threatening. This , itself, is probably against federal law, as the internet is supposedly global and not ruled by any governing body, nonetheless, that is how things work these days.
I am just giving this warning to Chaim and rest of people on JTF, because it doesn't take much with the tyrannical government we have to give them an excuse to make your life hell.
Remember, everything on the web is accessible to all and will never be deleted. ANd, yes, everything you write you will be accountable for and can be used against you.
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He was warned numerous times about making threats to Government Officials and he kept doing so. It's not worth the risk and I stand by this ban.
I agree with Muman and also with Irish Zionist. He did make some interesting points, but this other stuff which I guess was taken down before I saw it is a serious no no. He wouldn't have struck me as the type to say stupid things.
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Well he sounds very young and a bit hot headed. But I don't think he's dangerous at all.
But everyone should be careful about what they write here. Never threaten government officials. Never say you want to kill so and so, or that you want them dead. (Wishing cancer on someone is different, because cancer is not something you can catch from another person.) What you can say is that the public figure you dislike should be tried for treason, or should be impeached and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
If I come across anything about threatening public officials or wanting to do violence against them, I'll delete the posts.
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everything about me is seen as worthless or a negative.
Please understand that this is not true. I think you did contribute positively.
I also do not believe you were malicious, and you can hang out here as long as you stick to the few and very serious rules this forum has. Simple as that. Good luck with everything.
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Well he sounds very young and a bit hot headed. But I don't think he's dangerous at all.
But everyone should be careful about what they write here. Never threaten government officials. Never say you want to kill so and so, or that you want them dead. (Wishing cancer on someone is different, because cancer is not something you can catch from another person.) What you can say is that the public figure you dislike should be tried for treason, or should be impeached and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
If I come across anything about threatening public officials or wanting to do violence against them, I'll delete the posts.
He has been warned and admonished about making threats several times. We don't need this kind of a ticking bomb at our forum.
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He has been warned and admonished about making threats several times. We don't need this kind of a ticking bomb at our forum.
So 2 now then, both jokes. You're a greasy little [censored], you don't know me, and you sure as [censored] never will. You really aren't worth responding to, but ending things on a bad note helps them pass into obscurity easier for me. Good luck getting people off the forum, not that it would change the world either way. And admonished means warned. Little pretentious buffoon trying to suck up his chest so "they'll see how much they should value me". Is this partially your forum? Well, it's not mine then.
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So 2 now then, both jokes. You're a greasy little [censored], you don't know me, and you sure as [censored] never will. You really aren't worth responding to, but ending things on a bad note helps them pass into obscurity easier for me. Good luck getting people off the forum, not that it would change the world either way. And admonished means warned. Little pretentious buffoon trying to suck up his chest so "they'll see how much they should value me". Is this partially your forum? Well, it's not mine then.
You were actually invited to return as I seem to remember... If your ending on a bad note its because you want it that way... Something tells me however the parting of the ways will be a long time in the making :::D
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You were actually invited to return as I seem to remember... If your ending on a bad note its because you want it that way... Something tells me however the parting of the ways will be a long time in the making :::D
Where did you find that avatar?
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Where did you find that avatar?
Information like that is only given out on a need to know basis :)
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Please understand that this is not true. I think you did contribute positively.
I also do not believe you were malicious, and you can hang out here as long as you stick to the few and very serious rules this forum has. Simple as that. Good luck with everything.
Does the 'BT' stand for ba'al teshuvah? Does your name that you are a Jew who has repented and become observant thanks to Kahane?
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Information like that is only given out on a need to know basis :)
It reminds me of what you would get if you crossed a strawberry with Crash Bandicoot:
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It reminds me of what you would get if you crossed a strawberry with Crash Bandicoot:
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Yes, seems so... ;D