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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on January 22, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
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Just wanted to say one thing....regardless of which religion, denomination any of you who aren't Jewish, belong to, but support us and support Israel and support righteousness and support morality and moral lifestyles...I just wanted to tell you guys, in particular... I LOVE YOU. Your support and help is greatly appreciated. I love working with you and love fighting with you. May Gd bless all of you!!
And of course, I feel the same about my fellow Jewish brothers and sisters.
We are one big family and have each others' backs. And we should hopefully learn from one another and sometimes agree to disagree.
Clap if you agree with this: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Great post Dr. Dan! We care about you too and the other nice Jewish people. :clap:
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Thank you Dr. Dan! As Chaim says, you are the voice of wisdom and common sense! :clap: :clap:
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:clap: That was a very nice post. Thank You.
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Great post, Dr. Dan.
I'm grateful to all our members. You guys are the best!
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Shalom to all Good JTF members....
Of course we love you all... We obviously share more than we disagree on, and that is what makes this a great forum...
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Thank you, Dr. Dan.
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I love all of my Jewish and Gentile friends on this forum. ;)
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I do not agree with burying that thread however. Chaim is too 'touchy' when it comes to these things, which is not a good indication of leadership, in my opinion.
Even if he had merely locked the thread, although I disagree with that too, it would have been more optimal. Completely censoring a thread by making it inaccessible gives the impression that unpopular opinion needs to be suppressed. Chaim often speaks about being Prime Minister.... How will he behave then? Not in the same manner I hope. This borders on paranoia.
If JTF is afraid of offending monetary contributors, then be clear what you are all about: schnorrers. You can't be a popular idealistic movement and a charity at the same time. Pick one.
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I do not agree with burying that thread however. Chaim is too 'touchy' when it comes to these things, which is not a good indication of leadership, in my opinion.
Even if he had merely locked the thread, although I disagree with that too, it would have been more optimal. Completely censoring a thread and making it completely inaccessible gives the impression that unpopular opinion needs to be suppressed. Chaim often speaks about being Prime Minister.... How will he behave then? Not in the same manner I hope. This borders on paranoia.
Let us not concentrate on negativity. Sometimes a thread is so controversial it could linger for days, weeks, and even months with nothing but bad feelings. I don't mind that the thread was locked because at the point it was locked it had become an echo chamber of negativity.
I trust the moderators have the best intentions for the forum and I don't question their decisions.
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I do not agree with burying that thread however. Chaim is too 'touchy' when it comes to these things, which is not a good indication of leadership, in my opinion.
Even if he had merely locked the thread, although I disagree with that too, it would have been more optimal. Completely censoring a thread by making it inaccessible gives the impression that unpopular opinion needs to be suppressed. Chaim often speaks about being Prime Minister.... How will he behave then? Not in the same manner I hope. This borders on paranoia.
If JTF is afraid of offending monetary contributors, then be clear what you are all about: schnorrers. You can't be a popular idealistic movement and a charity at the same time. Pick one.
*cough*troll*cough*
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Let us not concentrate on negativity. Sometimes a thread is so controversial it could linger for days, weeks, and even months with nothing but bad feelings. I don't mind that the thread was locked because at the point it was locked it had become an echo chamber of negativity.
I trust the moderators have the best intentions for the forum and I don't question their decisions.
While I respect you, I must disagree with you.
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Are you mad that Stephanie dumped you, Ben?
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While I respect you, I must disagree with you.
Thank you, and I don't think that you are a troll.. But I would not be so disrespectful of the JTF leaders... They make difficult decisions trying to keep this board up for us and I personally appreciate their work..
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Bechamel, are you calling Chaim a schnorrer? That's Yiddish for moocher for our non-Jewish members.
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And the reason we move/bury threads is that we don't want prospective new members to see people bickering here. The forum should be a nice, inviting place for like minded people.
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Which thread are you guys talking about?
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Which thread are you guys talking about?
Oh nothing...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,66751.0.html
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Oh nothing...
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I posted about Jewish converts and it turned into a big brawl... It was best to close the thread... Move along, nothing to see here...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,66751.0.html
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Bechamel, are you calling Chaim a schnorrer? That's Yiddish for moocher for our non-Jewish members.
What's the Yiddish word for spinster daughter?
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Are you mad that Stephanie dumped you, Ben?
Are there two trolls here or one? I'm guessing the individual criticizing Chaim in the way they are is a troll.
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Are you mad that Stephanie dumped you, Ben?
My exact thought, notice how he used the word paranoid.
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L'Chaim :dance:
I raise a glass of good Bourbon to your post Dan!
Jewish and Gentile Kahanists or any others who believe in Truth, Liberty and Righteousness must come together to work for the cause of the greater good. I don't believe we can do it alone, so we need the help of each other to overcome the dire threats we face from Islamo and Communist Fascists who want to destroy our cultures, religion and freedom!
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My exact thought, notice how he used the word paranoid.
You're both nuts. Everyone on this forum who doesn't obey the status quo is either Marbus, Ralph, Ben or Stephanie. What a joke.
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You're both nuts. Everyone on this forum who doesn't obey the status quo is either Marbus, Ralph, Ben or Stephanie. What a joke.
you forgot a couple, why do you hate us?
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I don't. I like you. Lisa OTOH....
By the way Ephraim, I didn't participate on the off-topic discussion in that thread... My posts there were about invalid conversions which are an insult to true converts who have to go through a lot to become Jewish.
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I don't. I like you. Lisa OTOH....
By the way Ephraim, I didn't participate on the off-topic discussion in that thread... My posts there were about invalid conversions which are an insult to true converts who have to go through a lot to become Jewish.
That was very disrespectful what you said to her, please have some honor and respect. Has she done anything to you, since you have been back on the forum?
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We Jews love to argue .. I think it is one of our favorite pastimes. ::)
Efraim and Bachamal .. I am giving you both a big hug.. Cmon , let's bury that hatchet and move on from here.. We are facing too many greater threats to cause all these divisions within ourselves.. Both of you come and join me for a shot of Bourbon or Vodka and let's just be friends.
Kol Tuv
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Yes, I agree. Thank you EveryJew44.
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What's the Yiddish word for spinster daughter?
So you're going to insult Lisa now instead of answering her question? Don't be a child because children get banned.
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If this chazir isn't Ben Mizrachi, which he probably is, he is either Chakma or Adam613.
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If this chazir isn't Ben Mizrachi, which he probably is, he is either Chakma or Adam613.
Nope. Not Chakma and not Adam613.
So you're going to insult Lisa now instead of answering her question? Don't be a child because children get banned.
Shut your mouth, kalb ibn kalb.
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OK fine, you're another alias of Ralph's as well.
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For hecks sake.... Can't we let this go? I don't think Bechamal is a troll. This thread was meant to be a thread of consolation and instead it has become another thread of denigration.
True, we have problems with trolls, but not everyone who says things which are foreign to JTF's ideas is a troll. I thought we encouraged people to say what they think so that they could be debated.
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OK fine, you're another alias of Ralph's as well.
מספיק - enough. I am not Ralph, or marbus, or anyone else you can think of.
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If this chazir isn't Ben Mizrachi, which he probably is, he is either Chakma or Adam613.
I don't believe he's any of the usual suspects, I think he's a child all his own.
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For hecks sake.... Can't we let this go? I don't think Bechamal is a troll. This thread was meant to be a thread of consolation and instead it has become another thread of denigration.
True, we have problems with trolls, but not everyone who says things which are foreign to JTF's ideas is a troll. I thought we encouraged people to say what they think so that they could be debated.
So you didn't read what he wrote?
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So you didn't read what he wrote?
Bechamel made a comment where he suggested that Chaim is a begger... I saw that. I commented that it is not a good thing to do to insult the Leader of JTF or it's admins...He also took a swipe at Lisa which, if he is to be taken seriously, he should ask to be forgiven. I think it was in poor judgment...
But I am not sure what his other 'transgressions' are...
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For hecks sake.... Can't we let this go? I don't think Bechamal is a troll. This thread was meant to be a thread of consolation and instead it has become another thread of denigration.
True, we have problems with trolls, but not everyone who says things which are foreign to JTF's ideas is a troll. I thought we encouraged people to say what they think so that they could be debated.
Muman, I implore you to reserve judgment until you have considered the material being referenced. You either weren't paying attention, or are obfuscating.
Case in point:
If JTF is afraid of offending monetary contributors, then be clear what you are all about: schnorrers.
Untrue accusation attacking the forum. Though not quite troll like. The rest is clear.
What's the Yiddish word for spinster daughter?
Personal attack against Lisa when all she did was ask him to clarify something he said.
I don't. I like you. Lisa OTOH....
Shut your mouth, kalb ibn kalb.
For warning him not to insult Lisa and behave like a child here, I am called a dog.
It doesn't matter what this person is or is not. Whether they came here with good intentions or bad intentions. Whether they are a great Jew or a lousy excuse openly flaunting halacha. The fact is that his behavior is not acceptable here. Starting an insult war with someone who challenges an opinion (or warns you against personal attacks) is childish and belongs on a splinter forum.
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So in other words he came from Dyke Guzofsky's rat nest?
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Bechamel made a comment where he suggested that Chaim is a begger... I saw that. I commented that it is not a good thing to do to insult the Leader of JTF or it's admins...He also took a swipe at Lisa which, if he is to be taken seriously, he should ask to be forgiven. I think it was in poor judgment...
But I am not sure what his other 'transgressions' are...
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And that to you requires "other transgressions?" This forum is not a "slam book" for people to sit here insulting each other all day. Anyone who propagates garbage like that on the forum obviously doesn't belong here because their mind hasn't fully developed yet, and this forum is for intelligent people.
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KWRBT,
I fully agree that disrespect of JTF leaders and admins is a surefire way to get banned. And I support banning such disrespectful members. As I stood up against rothstein who disrespected you yesterday...
So yes, on the basis of being insulting and disrespectful of JTF leadership I concur that he should be considered for banning...
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So Bechamel, you wrote "Lisa OTOH."
What's that supposed to mean? If you think Chaim is a schnorrer with poor leadership skills, and I'm a spinster, then why are you here?
I also see that you called Kahane-Was-Right-BT, who never attacked you, or did anything bad to you, a son of a b--ch.
It looks like you've been exposed as nothing but a miserable human being, despite acting all religious.
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"Considered"? LOL
BTW, this individual (Bechamel as you call him because I cannot read Chevreet) has been weird from day one. He made several WN-ish posts, for instance.
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So Bechamel, you wrote "Lisa OTOH."
What's that supposed to mean? If you think Chaim is a schnorrer with poor leadership skills, and I'm a spinster, then why are you here?
I also see that you called Kahane-Was-Right-BT, who never attacked you, or did anything bad to you, a son of a b--ch.
It looks like you've been exposed as nothing but a miserable human being, despite acting all religious.
After a lot of going back and forth on this Lisa, I think Bechamel might actually be our old Pedo friend, Din Rodef or "Truth Typer".
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He made several WN-ish posts, for instance.
Where?
After a lot of going back and forth on this Lisa, I think Bechamel might actually be our old Pedo friend, Din Rodef or "Truth Typer".
You know very well that I am not Marbus, or Ralph, or any of these people.
Lisa, give him my current IP, and give him the IPs of all these said individuals, so we can put his chivalrous act to rest. I think you have a potential candidate for a husband here. Take advantage while your womb is still somewhat fertile.
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I think you should take that realistic vibrating d1ld0 that Don Black gave you out of your man-womb before you attempt to diss the admins any more, Din.
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Where?
You know very well that I am not Marbus, or Ralph, or any of these people.
Lisa, give him my current IP, and give him the IPs of all these said individuals, so we can put his chivalrous act to rest. I think you have a potential candidate for a husband here. Take advantage while your womb is still somewhat fertile.
I give up on you. Lisa is a great admin here. You have insulted all the greats here. I cannot defend you anymore... You should be banned...
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Until I am actually banned, "popular" opinion has no relevance. It's nice to know where you stand however.
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Where?
You know very well that I am not Marbus, or Ralph, or any of these people.
Lisa, give him my current IP, and give him the IPs of all these said individuals, so we can put his chivalrous act to rest. I think you have a potential candidate for a husband here. Take advantage while your womb is still somewhat fertile.
What makes you the expert on my womb, smartypants?
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It's biology.
As a man ages, his potential to gather resources increases -- thus his value increases.
As a woman ages, her fertility and looks decrease, thus her value decreases.
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What makes you the expert on my womb, smartypants?
Din Rodef was trying to expand his tuchis with a giant [censored] so that he could have his life partner Frank Weltner's baby. However, it got stuck and he had to go to the ER and get an emergency colostomy, so now he is "sterile". That's why he is so bitter and obsessed with "wombs", Lisa.
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I'm pretty sure it is 'bachamal' unless there are phonetic rules of hebrew of which I am unaware. All patachs, right?
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Yes, BaChaMal.
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It's biology.
As a man ages, his potential to gather resources increases -- thus his value increases.
As a woman ages, her fertility and looks decrease, thus her value decreases.
Translation: as the days and years go by, Din Rodef's retroviral load grows exponentially. Today he can't fight off the shingles. Tomorrow he won't be able to fight off a common cold. He already can barely defecate because his tuchis is filled with Kaposi's Sarcoma growths and warts which are closing it off, much to the consternation of his many partners.
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I agree whole-heartedly with Dr. Dan's first post. And I'll tell you this: I'll take a righteous, Israel-loving non-Jew over a self-hating, Israel-hating Jew any day of the week!
Just wanted to say one thing....regardless of which religion, denomination any of you who aren't Jewish, belong to, but support us and support Israel and support righteousness and support morality and moral lifestyles...I just wanted to tell you guys, in particular... I LOVE YOU. Your support and help is greatly appreciated. I love working with you and love fighting with you. May Gd bless all of you!!
And of course, I feel the same about my fellow Jewish brothers and sisters.
We are one big family and have each others' backs. And we should hopefully learn from one another and sometimes agree to disagree.
Clap if you agree with this: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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It's biology.
As a man ages, his potential to gather resources increases -- thus his value increases.
As a woman ages, her fertility and looks decrease, thus her value decreases.
In your case, even age won't increase your value. You're still a worthless lump of protoplasm regardless of your biological age.
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Did you read my translation of what he said, Lisa?
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Did you read my translation of what he said, Lisa?
Ha ha, hilarious. Get a room.
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Where?
You know very well that I am not Marbus, or Ralph, or any of these people.
Lisa, give him my current IP, and give him the IPs of all these said individuals, so we can put his chivalrous act to rest. I think you have a potential candidate for a husband here. Take advantage while your womb is still somewhat fertile.
So now you encourage Jewish women to marry gentile men? Wow, you are seriously twisted.
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I just banned that miserable individual.
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Where?
You know very well that I am not Marbus, or Ralph, or any of these people.
Lisa, give him my current IP, and give him the IPs of all these said individuals, so we can put his chivalrous act to rest. I think you have a potential candidate for a husband here. Take advantage while your womb is still somewhat fertile.
That's the last straw. Out you go
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Good call, cf, on pointing out immediately this troll. This individual was a poor excuse of a Jew and was probably wonga or fruitofthyloins
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Good call, cf, on pointing out immediately this troll. This individual was a poor excuse of a Jew and was probably wonga or fruitofthyloins
Hi Dr. Dan.
I don't think he was Wonga, who is now back as Yerusha. Wonga was never mean, and neither was Fruit of Thy Loins. His IP showed he was posting from Canada. And he wrote about Canada in his first posts.
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Who do we know from Canada that used to come here and stir things up?
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Who do we know from Canada that used to come here and stir things up?
He could be a genuinely new person. If he would have behaved like an adult he could have stayed here. Why did he insist on behaving like a child and personally attacking people here? I do not know.
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So now you encourage Jewish women to marry gentile men? Wow, you are seriously twisted.
He probably meant that he wanted me to be his life-partner now that David Duke broke up with him.
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Who do we know from Canada that used to come here and stir things up?
Archie Wiseman. He is from Toronto I believe.
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LKZ was from Canada, and said the same disrespectful things towards women!
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Hi Dr. Dan.
I don't think he was Wonga, who is now back as Yerusha. Wonga was never mean, and neither was Fruit of Thy Loins. His IP showed he was posting from Canada. And he wrote about Canada in his first posts.
I do suspect that LKZ might be FOTL, though. Look at his JTF question about masturbation.
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He probably meant that he wanted me to be his life-partner now that David Duke broke up with him.
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LKZ was from Canada, and said the same disrespectful things towards women!
That's about as far as the similarities go between those two, though. They had diametrically opposing views on certain explosive topics.
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That's about as far as the similarities go between those two, though. They had diametrically opposing views on certain explosive topics.
Give me an example, please!
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Give me an example, please!
I'll PM you.
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LKZ was just crazy or high. He never made personal attacks on JTF members and never posted WN/paleocon nonsense.
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I'll PM you.
ok.
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Here are examples of some of Bechamel's WN postings:
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,66261.msg575490.html#msg575490
No, it is not based on personal belief, it is based on biology, anthropoogy, and observational and behavioral science.
a) The skulls of different races can be told apart
b) blacks may behave more intelligently than other blacks if placed around whites, but they are still below average
c) Whites have higher overall scores than Asians if Asian affirmative-action is eliminated as a factor
d) Jews are vastly disproportionate to their overall accomplishments (Not just in science per se)
You can choose to believe what you believe. Egalitarianism is a fable. Women and men don't either share the same level of intelligence - that means to say - only men posses a noteworth ability for abstract thought, and that is why 99.9% of inventions on this earth are male inventions. Yes, there are women who are scientists, but they would not be where they are without unfairly reaching their positions. It is no wonder that the role of Marie Curie's husband is completely downplayed in her discovery of radiation.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,66261.msg575475.html#msg575475
Just on the intro --
I know that Chaim's official position is that all people are genetically equal in terms of intelligence... This is an egalitarian view and it is also complete nonsense. There is indeed a difference in intelligence between the races...
If you look at Steven Farron's work however, it contradicts the initial statements of this news reporter that Rushton insists Asians are superior in intelligence capability to both whites and blacks. This is not true. Whites generally have higher IQs and perform better than Asians once you eliminate Asian affirmative-action (Yes, this exists as well) as a factor.
It is my personal belief that Jewish intelligence genetically is superior to all the races. I have been called a racist before for saying this, but if you examine anthropology in depth, you will reach the same conclusion.
This is why I believe him to be a Pedofronter.
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Oy vey.. Sorry you were attacked Lisa.. You seem like a wonderful person..
Bachamal seemed like a very intelligent and knowledgeable Jew.. Why did he have to have so much chutzpah to start fighting with others??
WHat is this world coming to?
Sadly, this thread took a very wrong turn.. :'(
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Oy vey.. Sorry you were attacked Lisa.. You seem like a wonderful person..
Bachamal seemed like a very intelligent and knowledgeable Jew.. Why did he have to have so much chutzpah to start fighting with others??
WHat is this world coming to?
Sadly, this thread took a very wrong turn.. :'(
Thank you, EveryJewA44.
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LKZ was from Canada, and said the same disrespectful things towards women!
Wow... you are good.... I had forgotten about LKZ
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Wow... you are good.... I had forgotten about LKZ
I doubt it is LKZ....
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I doubt it is LKZ....
I think you are right!
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Possibilities:
--Din Rodef
--Archie Wiseman
--Ben Mizrachi
--Chaim, Jr.
--Skkie
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It's biology.
As a man ages, his potential to gather resources increases -- thus his value increases.
As a woman ages, her fertility and looks decrease, thus her value decreases.
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Totally sounds like Marbus or his morbid friends.
Anyways, their anti jtf friend was beaten up severely and hospitalized a few days ago but they laugh about it and make jokes. Infamous and sick people.
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Are there two trolls here or one? I'm guessing the individual criticizing Chaim in the way they are is a troll.
Its the same guy and i wouldn't be suprised if it was one of those love birds
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I don't care who that person was. When a 'new member' makes a direct attack on another member unprovoked, they should not be engaged further, they should be banned. >:(
Lisa, to your credit you were extremely patient.
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I don't care who that person was. When a 'new member' makes a direct attack on another member unprovoked, they should not be engaged further, they should be banned. >:(
Lisa, to your credit you were extremely patient.
Thanks Bullcat. I have no idea who that person really was or how he knew anything about me.
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Thanks Bullcat. I have no idea who that person really was or how he knew anything about me.
look up his ips
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Thanks Bullcat. I have no idea who that person really was or how he knew anything about me.
I don't know how many of them there are, and I don't know how many different group there are. But what they do is, sign up, log in and stay on the forum and not say anything for a long time. Meanwhile looking over peoples profiles and gathering information. Than some of them will come on the scene and implode. If you notice someone hovering around the forum and not saying anything, or if they say things or keywords that relate to you or other members. Start looking at their profiles and see what they are viewing, or look through their statements and see if you can see a pattern from past members.
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Thanks Bullcat. I have no idea who that person really was or how he knew anything about me.
Because he is a troll that has been here before. I gave you five possibilities. I think it was a WN.
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Which one of the anti-JTFers was beaten up and hospitalized? Who beat them up?
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I am confused with the anti-JTF people. Who is Archie Wiseman?
And where is Marbus from? Does Marbus he use broken English or does he live in an English speaking country? Writing style can be a big clue. How many anti-JTFers mess up when typing in English?
I noticed the recent person who got banned Bachamel was well knowledgeable in Judaism and even took it to the extreme. He made some very negative statements about women in the USA, saying that western women are poisoned and he would never marry one of them. Stating that he would only marry a Mea Shearing girl who does not have her head filled wtih all the liberalism of the west...etc..
In one post, I disagreed with something relating to a Chassidic group and he accused me of being Litvish (which I am not). But how could any of the anti-JTF people be aware of the Chassidic vs Litvish. I would find it hard to believe that any of the anti-JTF fools take time to learn about the Vilna Gaon vs the Baal Shem Tov just so that they can sound legitimate if they make accounts here.
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I am confused with the anti-JTF people. Who is Archie Wiseman?
And where is Marbus from? Does Marbus he use broken English or does he live in an English speaking country? Writing style can be a big clue. How many anti-JTFers mess up when typing in English?
Marbus is 100% from Australia. He is a sick Croat from Australia but he speaks Croatian badly, almost nothing. What a miserable clown Marbus is.