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Title: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Mein Koran on April 28, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-stabs-people-church-albuquerque-19062040#.UX2K87WceWp

We dont know who it is yet, it was most likely a quranimal
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: TruthSpreader on April 28, 2013, 07:19:50 PM
Why won't they show his face? Are they afraid they might be called racists?

Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Rubystars on April 28, 2013, 08:41:10 PM
The cooking channel must be held accountable and we need to register all assault knives. Nobody is saying that the assault knives should be taken away, just to register them so they can be taken away later. /sarcasm
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on April 29, 2013, 01:47:33 AM
hard to tell what the reason was.
if it was a quranimal it would have been a bomb.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Ulli on April 29, 2013, 02:17:25 AM
hard to tell what the reason was.
if it was a quranimal it would have been a bomb.
not necessary. the attack with a knife is common among Muslims. the bomb is the exception.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on April 29, 2013, 02:45:20 AM
not necessary. the attack with a knife is common among Muslims. the bomb is the exception.

you mean the muslims in your neighborhood are even dumber than american muslims?
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: syyuge on April 29, 2013, 03:45:45 AM
All muslamics regularly practice their knives on the animals, so they become specialists in hitting or cutting by knives and even simpler blades.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: HiWarp on April 29, 2013, 06:52:07 AM
The cooking channel must be held accountable and we need to register all assault knives. Nobody is saying that the assault knives should be taken away, just to register them so they can be taken away later. /sarcasm

Not to mention that no one needs a knife that has a blade longer than 3 inches. A 3 inch blade is more than enough for any legitimate kitchen knife. Anything longer than that would qualify the knife as an assault weapon whose purpose could only be to kill and maim people.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Rubystars on April 29, 2013, 08:04:53 AM
Not to mention that no one needs a knife that has a blade longer than 3 inches. A 3 inch blade is more than enough for any legitimate kitchen knife. Anything longer than that would qualify the knife as an assault weapon whose purpose could only be to kill and maim people.

Yes never mind that the stabbing at Lonestar College was carried out by a very short knife and planes were hijacked using box cutters.  :::D
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: TruthSpreader on April 29, 2013, 08:30:43 AM
not necessary. the attack with a knife is common among Muslims. the bomb is the exception.

Interesting. I always thought it would be a gun not a knife.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Havok on April 29, 2013, 11:08:51 AM
Police identified the suspect as 24-year-old Lawrence Capener.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on April 29, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
It seems a lot of people are jumping to the conclusion that muslims are doing these things. I think it is foolish to blame all violence in churches on muslims. There are many stories about how church members go nuts and lash out at their congregation. This story sounds like another case of church members going nuts, according to all reports on this story the man who attacked was the son of a church-goer.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/police-man-stabbed-4-people-at-albuquerque-catholic-church-as-mass-was-ending-motive-unknown/2013/04/29/0540ead6-b087-11e2-9fb1-62de9581c946_story.html

It was not immediately known what sparked the bizarre attack at the 11 a.m. Sunday Mass on the city’s west side.

St. Jude Thaddeus’ pastor, the Rev. John Daniel, said Capener’s mother was “very active” in the parish and serves as a Eucharistic minister there.

“He was here occasionally but not very often,” Daniel said.

(http://www.kob.com/kobtvimages/repository/2013-04/lawrence-capener(1).jpg)

Looks to me that he is ethnically a mexican or hispanic...

Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on April 29, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
Some other notable church stabbings:


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/28/1075088093455.html

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(http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1075088095248_2004/01/28/sewell_2901.jpg)

Nobody, least of all Susan Sewell, knows why she entered the Collins Street Baptist Church during a music recital last August, called out "hello" and stabbed three people.

Sewell was jailed yesterday for at least two years by County Court Judge Jim Duggan for stabbing three event staff, including concert organiser and ABC radio arts presenter Peter Burch.

She has no previous criminal or psychiatric history and said she has no memory of the stabbings.

Known locally as a homeless person, Sewell sometimes slept on the steps of the church. Beyond that, details of her identity are uncertain. Police say she was born in Romania and emigrated to NSW in 1970 with her mother. She married and divorced twice but disappeared from her Wollongong flat in the late 1990s, leaving behind a half-drunk cup of coffee. Nothing more is known of her until last year's stabbings.

In 1987 there was this case where Pavel Dragonrescu stabbed five worshippers at a church doing outreach to homeless...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=prtdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=A14NAAAAIBAJ&pg=6784,5673602&dq=church+stabbings&hl=en

In 1991 there was this case of an Ohio man stabbing a woman in church...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=odlRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SG4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4540,8459702&dq=church+stabbings&hl=en

In 2007 another stabbing at church :

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1946422/

Another...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/suspect-charged-with-murder-in-ill-church-shooting-37401/
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on April 29, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
Some other notable church stabbings:


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/28/1075088093455.html

In 1987 there was this case where Pavel Dragonrescu stabbed five worshippers at a church doing outreach to homeless...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=prtdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=A14NAAAAIBAJ&pg=6784,5673602&dq=church+stabbings&hl=en

In 1991 there was this case of an Ohio man stabbing a woman in church...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=odlRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SG4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4540,8459702&dq=church+stabbings&hl=en

In 2007 another stabbing at church :

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1946422/

Another...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/suspect-charged-with-murder-in-ill-church-shooting-37401/

That's some salad on his scalp.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on April 29, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
That's some salad on his scalp.

I missed that... Which one are you talking about?
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on April 29, 2013, 03:41:06 PM
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1075088095248_2004/01/28/sewell_2901.jpg)
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: syyuge on April 29, 2013, 04:48:49 PM
Can he be termed as a believer in the conspiracy theories, I mean if he was not kross influenced by the muslamics.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Ulli on May 14, 2013, 08:45:37 AM
Interesting. I always thought it would be a gun not a knife.

No, even in Israel, the Muslim attacks more with a knife than with a gun or bomb. Muslims like this weapon.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: syyuge on May 14, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
Muslamics who have directly taken the course of muslamic terrorism use bombs. Other muslamics who only read the khuran, use knives. Even any non-muslamic who attacks church or something like that should be inquired whether he has read khuran or not.     
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: City Yossi on May 14, 2013, 03:38:48 PM
Baruch Goldstein ran into a mosque and killed 29 Arabs.  Tell me how that was different.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on May 14, 2013, 03:54:24 PM
Baruch Goldstein ran into a mosque and killed 29 Arabs.  Tell me how that was different.

Are you serious.... This sounds like a troll question. If you cannot see the difference between the Baruch Goldstein shooting and this stabbing, you need to do some learning about the events...

Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: City Yossi on May 14, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Are you serious.... This sounds like a troll question. If you cannot see the difference between the Baruch Goldstein shooting and this stabbing, you need to do some learning about the events...
Please provide me with a reference.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Mein Koran on May 14, 2013, 04:11:36 PM
Baruch Goldstein ran into a mosque and killed 29 Arabs.  Tell me how that was different.

Saint Dr.Goldstein was defending his fellow Jews against an impending attack which was to follow after the Friday prayers at that mosque. He killed 29 quranimal terrorists. This beast who stabbed four people did it for no reason other than terrorism, he is probably a quranimal himself
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: City Yossi on May 14, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
Saint Dr.Goldstein was defending his fellow Jews against an impending attack which was to follow after the Friday prayers at that mosque. He killed 29 quranimal terrorists. This beast who stabbed four people did it for no reason other than terrorism, he is probably a quranimal himself
Interesting.  Please provide me with a reference so that I can learn more about that.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on May 14, 2013, 04:20:35 PM
Saint Dr.Goldstein was defending his fellow Jews against an impending attack which was to follow after the Friday prayers at that mosque. He killed 29 quranimal terrorists. This beast who stabbed four people did it for no reason other than terrorism, he is probably a quranimal himself

Indeed the Mosque was planning to kill Jews, they were chanting 'Death to the Jews'. And there were apparently posters up that there was going to be a mass riot, pogrom that day. I believe this occurred around the time of Purim.

Here is an open discussion of whether Dr Goldstein was operating from a Halachically sound position. The question is whether the arabs who were plotting to kill Jews could be considered 'rodefim' (those who pursue to kill).


http://www.torah.org/learning/issues/goldstein.html
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: City Yossi on May 14, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
Indeed the Mosque was planning to kill Jews, they were chanting 'Death to the Jews'. And there were apparently posters up that there was going to be a mass riot, pogrom that day. I believe this occurred around the time of Purim.

Here is an open discussion of whether Dr Goldstein was operating from a Halachically sound position. The question is whether the arabs who were plotting to kill Jews could be considered 'rodefim' (those who pursue to kill).


http://www.torah.org/learning/issues/goldstein.html
So while the Arabs at the Cave of Machpela on Purim were not physically attacking any Jews, there is evidence (I believe it was recorded in the Inquiry following the incident) that anti-Jewish statements "itbach el-yahud" (slaughter the Jews) were being made in the Cave.

Can you give me a link to the Inquiry so I may educate myself on this matter?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Mein Koran on May 14, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
So while the Arabs at the Cave of Machpela on Purim were not physically attacking any Jews, there is evidence (I believe it was recorded in the Inquiry following the incident) that anti-Jewish statements "itbach el-yahud" (slaughter the Jews) were being made in the Cave.

Can you give me a link to the Inquiry so I may educate myself on this matter?  Thank you.

bit.ly/11Cnj7b
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on May 14, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
Remember that 67 Jews were brutally massacred in Hebron in 1929, long long before the so-called 'Settlements' and even before the establishment of the modern state. This is obvious evidence that the arabs of Hebron are Jew-haters in their guts, and they regularly plot to kill as many Jews as they can.

Dr Goldstein had lost several friends and friends sons and daughters to arab terror in the year before his attack... Not that it is an excuse for what he did, but it is important to put what was done in the light of truth... More arabs are killing more Jews than Jews are killing arabs...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.[1] The event also left scores seriously wounded or maimed. Jewish homes were pillaged and synagogues were ransacked. Many of the 435 Jews who survived were hidden by local Arab families.[2][3] Soon after, all Hebron's Jews were evacuated by the British authorities. Many returned in 1931, but almost all left again during 1936–1939.[4] The massacre formed part of the 1929 Palestine riots, in which a total of 133 Jews were killed by Arabs, and brought the centuries-old Jewish presence in Hebron to an end.

The massacre, together with that of Jews in Safed, sent shock waves through Jewish communities in Palestine and around the world. It led to the re-organization and development of the Jewish paramilitary organization, the Haganah, which later became the nucleus of the Israel Defense Forces. In the metanarrative of Zionism, according to Michelle Campos, the event became 'a central symbol of Jewish persecution at the hands of bloodthirsty Arabs.'[5] and was "engraved in the national psyche of Israeli Jews", particularly those who settled in Hebron after 1967.[6]
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: muman613 on May 14, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
bit.ly/11Cnj7b

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/State/Law/Pages/COMMISSION%20OF%20INQUIRY-%20MASSACRE%20AT%20THE%20TOMB%20OF%20THE.aspx
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 14, 2013, 05:23:35 PM
Hi Ralph.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on May 15, 2013, 09:42:15 AM
Hi Alf.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Rubystars on May 15, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
Ralph used to always private message me and tell me what a traitor I am to my race for being friends with Jews even though as far as I could tell he wasn't even white himself. I wonder why he doesn't do that anymore. Did you give up on trying to turn me into a Nazi Ralph?
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on May 15, 2013, 09:57:17 AM
Ralph used to always private message me and tell me what a traitor I am to my race for being friends with Jews even though as far as I could tell he wasn't even white himself. I wonder why he doesn't do that anymore. Did you give up on trying to turn me into a Nazi Ralph?

you race traitor.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: TruthSpreader on May 16, 2013, 08:04:41 AM
No, even in Israel, the Muslim attacks more with a knife than with a gun or bomb. Muslims like this weapon.

Only a coward would ever use a knife. 

Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: TruthSpreader on May 16, 2013, 08:06:36 AM
Hi Ralph.

The guy with the Chuck Norris avatar is really Ralph?? I knew it because of the Baruch Goldstein comment.
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Ulli on May 18, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
Baruch Goldstein ran into a mosque and killed 29 Arabs.  Tell me how that was different.

Alone the question is an offence.

You cannot equalize radical murderous Muslims with normal people.  >:(
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Irish Zionist on May 18, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=410cg4oqFpk
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Rubystars on May 19, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
you race traitor.

 :::D Careful that term has more than one meaning. I haven't gone that far!  :::D
Title: Re: Man runs into church and stabs four people
Post by: Debbie Shafer on May 19, 2013, 06:20:49 PM
I looked and looked for the headline and couldn't find it.