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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on June 14, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
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This guy, Ban Ki Moon, must be a secret Jew hater, heck he is the leader of the Antisemitic United Nations (against Israel).
He is insisting that Jews cannot build in their own home land... How he must really hate the true owners of the Holy Land to prevent us from being able to build in our biblical heartland.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/168937#.UbuAGOdDtfQ
Ban: 'Settlements' Undermine Hopes for Peace
UN leader Ban Ki-moon says he is "particularly trouble" by Israel's plans to increase construction in Judea and Samaria.
Elad Benari, Canada
United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Friday slammed Israel's plans to increase construction in Judea and Samaria, saying they were undermining hopes of ending the Middle East conflict by setting up a Palestinian state.
"The secretary general is deeply concerned by the continuing expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank in violation of international law," said UN spokesman Martin Nesirky, according to the AFP news agency.
Ban was "particularly troubled" at Israel moving forward with plans for more than 1,000 new homes in two communities Judea and Samaria, the spokesman said.
He was referring to plans to build 538 new homes in Itamar and to legalize 137 existing units there were submitted to regional authorities this week for review, as well plans to build 550 homes in Bruchin.
"These are unhelpful decisions that undermine progress towards the two-state solution," Nesirky said, according to AFP.
"They constitute a deeply worrisome trend at a moment of ongoing efforts to relaunch peace negotiations,” he added. "The secretary general calls on Israel to heed the calls of the international community to freeze settlement activity and abide by its commitments under international law and the Road Map.”
On Thursday, the United States also sharply criticized Israel's plans to move ahead with 1,000 new homes for Jews in Judea and Samaria, saying they were unhelpful to U.S. efforts to kickstart negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
"We don't accept the legitimacy of continued settlement activity," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters.
“We remain hopeful that both sides will look at the important opportunity we have here to build trust and confidence and move back to the negotiating table, and that's what our focus is on."
Also on Thursday, Housing Minister Uri Ariel (Bayit Yehudi) announced that 1,000 new housing units for Jews will be built in the Etzion Bloc, in Judea. The State Department was apparently not aware of these plans, however.
When will this Baboon understand that there is no 'peace process', only a process of Israeli suicide in giving our land and our lives as a sacrifice to the evil nations.... Ban Ki should just die soon as he chokes on his Jew hating words...
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Israel MUST continue building in our legal settlements in the Samaria and Judea territories. These are the core lands which were promised to our ancestors, and they were liberated with Jewish blood in the 1967 war started by the arab interlopers.
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Good article Muman, but...............................
http://torah.org/learning/lifeline/5764/chukas.html
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Good article Muman, but...............................
http://torah.org/learning/lifeline/5764/chukas.html
Did you see I just posted that article in the Torah section?
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,69901.msg597829.html#msg597829
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Did you see I just posted that article in the Torah section?
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,69901.msg597829.html#msg597829
Yes I did, that's where I got it...
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Hu ohev ba tachet.
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Ban: 'Settlements' Undermine Hopes for Peace
Take away the colon and change Ban to Banning makes a true sentence.
Banning settlements undermines hopes for peace.
The opposite is also true. Banning Arab interlopers from Israel helps hopes for peace.
There will be no peace in Israel until the Arabs are out.
Ein Aravim, Ein Piguim.
Im yesh Aravaim, Ein Shalom.
Im ein Aravim, Yesh Shalom.
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They only put evil people in the UN.
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Notice I didn't scream bloody murder at the title? Notice I'm not even bothered by it?
Unlike Mike?
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Notice I didn't scream bloody murder at the title? Notice I'm not even bothered by it?
Unlike Mike?
He only means bad Orientals. You could use that term for Communist Chinese leaders (not the Chinese People) or the North Korean Kim Family.
You can call whites that act black apes as well. It's only intended for evil people. It's not for whole races.
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Monkeys look a little like basically everyone.
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Maybe our oriental friend meant to say that the settlements are an impediment to "piss." He probably talks a bit funny like most orientals and was misunderstood. I mean, I'm trying hard to be tolerant here.
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Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Al Gore are apes.
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The thing is that Orientals that grow up in the US don't have any accent. Their parents have an accent but the kids sound just like other Americans. You can't say they sound white. All Americans have that accent.
On the other hand blacks have been here for 400 years and they still have an accent. But in Africa they had a different accent. Even if blacks don't have an accent and talk correct English, you can usually tell that they're black because they have a deeper voice.
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I was not making a blanket comment that all 'Orientals' are apes or make monkey noises... Not my intention at all.
But when anyone starts making noises like Ban Ki Moon and his UN cohorts it sounds to me like ape noise. It is monkey talk and it has nothing to do with real monkeys, or blacks, or anything else.
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Monkey Talk: Monkey See, Monkey Do. UMM HMM!
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I was not making a blanket comment that all 'Orientals' are apes or make monkey noises... Not my intention at all.
But when anyone starts making noises like Ban Ki Moon and his UN cohorts it sounds to me like ape noise. It is monkey talk and it has nothing to do with real monkeys, or blacks, or anything else.
Sorry to be a d○ck, but bull[cough].
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Sorry to be a d○ck, but bull[cough].
What's wrong ephraim, are you going to accuse me of being a troll or something?
It is ridiculous that this is your response.
I know some Orientals (Chinese and Korean) who tell me that they support Israel, but many of them only say it and don't really mean it. I work with a good number of Chinese nationals and I have full respect of them. But I have noticed that they usually don't think too much against their government, because they still have family in China.
It is true, and I have even started threads about the great people involved with saving Jews from the Holocaust by bringing them to Shanghai and other provinces. That was commendable.
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What's wrong ephraim, are you going to accuse me of being a troll or something?
It is ridiculous that this is your response.
I know some Orientals (Chinese and Korean) who tell me that they support Israel, but many of them only say it and don't really mean it. I work with a good number of Chinese nationals and I have full respect of them. But I have noticed that they usually don't think too much against their government, because they still have family in China.
It is true, and I have even started threads about the great people involved with saving Jews from the Holocaust by bringing them to Shanghai and other provinces. That was commendable.
Is the word Orientals politically correct? I'm asking because of your knowledge and respect for all people. ::)
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Is the word Orientals politically correct? I'm asking because of your knowledge and respect for all people. ::)
I am not sure because I don't have the latest 'Politically Correct Dictionary'... What edition is the latest PC dictionary? Is it the 10th edition? I don't know.
I believe Oriental is PC, why would it not be?
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Is the word Orientals politically correct? I'm asking because of your knowledge and respect for all people. ::)
Wow, you are right... Apparently they have changed the dictionary once again:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental
ori·ental·ly adv.
Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Orientalmeaning "eastern"is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.
I will continue to use it because I intend no insult by using the term. I just used the term with a Vietnamese co-worker (who I thought was Korean)... To me all those with the racial characteristics of the 'Far East' (eyes, nose, lips) are considered Oriental to me...
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You know what's funny.
Persians are also oriental and so are Turks.
Paks, Arabs, Jews are also Asian.
Here's a picture of me: ;D
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I know Mike's mad at me because I made fun of his sacred negros.
No. He's FURIOUS!
>:(
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I know Mike's mad at me because I made fun of his sacred negros.
No. He's FURIOUS!
>:(
In your dreams.. The only thing I object to is racism, the irrational hatred of people due to their genetics.
I have stated this so many times that it should be clear. There are good and bad in every group. Indeed I have the pleasure of knowing many good people of many different races including all Europeans (French, Italian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Norwegian, and German) and many orientals (Chinese, South Koreans, Vietnamese (the owner of the company is Vietnamese), Japanese, Phillipines) and many from the middle east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel).... I can clearly state that all these peoples have good people among them. But there are also bad among them too. I have known many 'trailer trash' so-called whites who behave as bad or worse than the N*ggers. And believe me I use the N word liberally when it is deserved. All the gansta rappers are considered to be N*ggers by me, and I am considered by some to be racist due to this fact alone (and the fact I denigrate gangsta rap in network forums)....
But that said I do not consider a person a N because of his or her skin color, purely by their behavior. And I cannot in good conscience denigrate a whole race of people when I know for certain that there are good people of those races.
You think they are 'sacred' to me and that is completely ridiculous. Investigate all which I have written on this topic and discover that I am NOT a racist and yet I stand firm against negative social impacts of any people.
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I still feel that Ban Ki Moon sounds like the name of a monkey and the statement he made was ape noise...
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I am not sure because I don't have the latest 'Politically Correct Dictionary'... What edition is the latest PC dictionary? Is it the 10th edition? I don't know.
I believe Oriental is PC, why would it not be?
10th edition :::D The way they keep revising things it would have to be something like the 361th edition ;D
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cjd,
I was attempting an allusion to the Orwell novel 1984... In that story the latest, most double-plus good version of the 'Newspeak Dictionary' was the 11th edition...
http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-prin.html
"The Principles of Newspeak"
An appendix to 1984
Written by : George Orwell in 1948
Newspeak was the official language of Oceania, and had been devised to meet the ideological needs of Ingsoc, or English Socialism. In the year 1984 there was not as yet anyone who used Newspeak as his sole means of communication, either in speech or writing. The leading articles of the Times were written in it, but this was a tour de force which could only be carried out by a specialist, It was expected that Newspeak would have finally superseded Oldspeak (or standard English, as we should call it) by about the year 2050. Meanwhile, it gained ground steadily, all party members tending to use Newspeak words and grammatical constructions more and more in their everyday speech. The version in 1984, and embodied in the Ninth and Tenth Editions of Newspeak dictionary, was a provisional one, and contained many superfluous words and archaic formations which were due to be suppressed later. It is with the final, perfected version, as embodied in the Eleventh Edition of the dictionary, that we are concerned here.
The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of IngSoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought -- that is, a thought diverging from the principles of IngSoc -- should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words. Its vocabulary was so constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression to every meaning that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other meaning and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever.
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From the 1984 Script...
OBrien: Have you seen the 11th edition of the Newspeak Dictionary?
Winston: No, we’re still using the 10th edition at Minrec.
OBrien: A few advance copies have been segregated. I have one myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
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I am not sure because I don't have the latest 'Politically Correct Dictionary'... What edition is the latest PC dictionary? Is it the 10th edition? I don't know.
I believe Oriental is PC, why would it not be?
I prefer masta.
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By the way ack, asian women don't go to heaven. A baboon told me http://youtu.be/S8lhuMG1fbQ
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What's wrong ephraim, are you going to accuse me of being a troll or something?
It is ridiculous that this is your response.
I know some Orientals (Chinese and Korean) who tell me that they support Israel, but many of them only say it and don't really mean it. I work with a good number of Chinese nationals and I have full respect of them. But I have noticed that they usually don't think too much against their government, because they still have family in China.
It is true, and I have even started threads about the great people involved with saving Jews from the Holocaust by bringing them to Shanghai and other provinces. That was commendable.
I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...
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I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...
The spirit of Ron lingers. I think racism against Asians is PC now, anyways. Join the club ack.
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I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...
I was not aware of any ulterior motives, maybe subliminal.... But I do consider everyone who makes statements against Israel to be monkeys...
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The spirit of Ron lingers. I think racism against Asians is PC now, anyways. Join the club ack.
You imply I was trying to make a racist comment against all Asians which was not my intention...
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Wow, you are right... Apparently they have changed the dictionary once again:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental
ori·ental·ly adv.
Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Orientalmeaning "eastern"is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.
I will continue to use it because I intend no insult by using the term. I just used the term with a Vietnamese co-worker (who I thought was Korean)... To me all those with the racial characteristics of the 'Far East' (eyes, nose, lips) are considered Oriental to me...
I agree. Asian is not a race. I grew up calling them Oriental. It's just like blacks keep changing the name of their race.
Oriental seems less offensive than Mongols, which is what racial anthropologists called them. Or should we just call their race yellow? Their skin isn't yellow though. But white skin isn't really white either so maybe they don't mind being called yellow.
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I agree. Asian is not a race. I grew up calling them Oriental. It's just like blacks keep changing the name of their race.
Oriental seems less offensive than Mongols, which is what racial anthropologists called them. Or should we just call their race yellow? Their skin isn't yellow though. But white skin isn't really white either so maybe they don't mind being called yellow.
WHAT? THAT IS RACIST!
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You imply I was trying to make a racist comment against all Asians which was not my intention...
In a humorous fashion. You'd still be expelled from a school if you wrote that, but obviously I know your intention.
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In your dreams.. The only thing I object to is racism, the irrational hatred of people due to their genetics.
I have stated this so many times that it should be clear. There are good and bad in every group. Indeed I have the pleasure of knowing many good people of many different races including all Europeans (French, Italian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Norwegian, and German) and many orientals (Chinese, South Koreans, Vietnamese (the owner of the company is Vietnamese), Japanese, Phillipines) and many from the middle east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel).... I can clearly state that all these peoples have good people among them. But there are also bad among them too. I have known many 'trailer trash' so-called whites who behave as bad or worse than the N*ggers. And believe me I use the N word liberally when it is deserved. All the gansta rappers are considered to be N*ggers by me, and I am considered by some to be racist due to this fact alone (and the fact I denigrate gangsta rap in network forums)....
But that said I do not consider a person a N because of his or her skin color, purely by their behavior. And I cannot in good conscience denigrate a whole race of people when I know for certain that there are good people of those races.
You think they are 'sacred' to me and that is completely ridiculous. Investigate all which I have written on this topic and discover that I am NOT a racist and yet I stand firm against negative social impacts of any people.
I fantasize about you everynight.
ok we're never going to get through each other.
if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.
So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.
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I fantasize about you everynight.
ok we're never going to get through each other.
if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.
So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.
I've got your back ack. And Muman... what is this about, exactly?
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I fantasize about you everynight.
ok we're never going to get through each other.
if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.
So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.
OKAY, that's enough between you two. You both support Zionism, and by fighting over petty bullshiite we accomplish nothing! Also, by us attacking other races we scare away any conservatives that may not be white, that maybe looking our way...
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I've got your back ack. And Muman... what is this about, exactly?
It's between them!!!
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It's between them!!!
I see mutual accusations of racism and love for other races. It's time to step in. Easy E.
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I see mutual accusations of racism and love for other races. It's time to step in. Easy E.
Wtf? You trying to [censored] me off?
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Wtf? You trying to [censored] me off?
Subconsciously, perhaps. Only with the last two words. You do purport yourself to be the defender of everything sometimes, which is what they were for.
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Hey Muman do you know of any video/audio debates between rabbis and atheists? I've been looking for those.
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He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.
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He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.
I know you're not. I think he's fighting you with all the best intentions.
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He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.
But some of the things you say can be taken as racist because it looks like you generalize them to ALL blacks. It seems you don't think it is possible that a black man could act decent and be a moral person.
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But some of the things you say can be taken as racist because it looks like you generalize them to ALL blacks. It seems you don't think it is possible that a black man could act decent and be a moral person.
Ack is to funny to be racist.
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What can I say here? I apologize to ACK if he was truly offended by what I said. There was no intention in my mind that this would be taken personally by ACK. I have always felt that ACK is a great JTF member who I respect. I do not make it a practice to say offensive things to people whom I consider a part of my 'virtual family'.
I have said all I want to say concerning my opinion of racism. None of the adjectives in the title of this thread were meant as racist or to be taken personally. All those who ask Israel to make suicidal concessions are considered by me to be 'animal like' and make 'animal noises'. The word Oriental, until I just learned, was not considered derogatory and simply refers to people from the 'Far East'.
So, ACK, please accept my apology for this misunderstanding. I don't care if you are 'dark' or 'light' or whatever, as a long time JTF member in good standing, I respect you and seek your forgiveness.
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What can I say here? I apologize to ACK if he was truly offended by what I said. There was no intention in my mind that this would be taken personally by ACK. I have always felt that ACK is a great JTF member who I respect. I do not make it a practice to say offensive things to people whom I consider a part of my 'virtual family'.
I have said all I want to say concerning my opinion of racism. None of the adjectives in the title of this thread were meant as racist or to be taken personally. All those who ask Israel to make suicidal concessions are considered by me to be 'animal like' and make 'animal noises'. The word Oriental, until I just learned, was not considered derogatory and simply refers to people from the 'Far East'.
So, ACK, please accept my apology for this misunderstanding. I don't care if you are 'dark' or 'light' or whatever, as a long time JTF member in good standing, I respect you and seek your forgiveness.
I believe that nobody is mad at you mums.
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I also say Oriental and I don't mean it to be racist. If you call them Asian, you have to add the word East prior to Asian. Or you could say Oriental Asians. In that case Oriental can be interpreted to mean the Far East of the whole World or the Far East of the continent of Asia. Oriental simply means Eastern. Even they admit that China and the neighborhing countries are in East Asia. But to hijack the whole continent of Asia for their race name is ethnocentrism and ignores Southwest Asia, Asia Minor, Central Asia, and South Asia.
Only East Asians, Southeast Asians, and Northern Asians (Siberia) are Asians that are part of their race. Pacific islanders and the natives of the New World also belong to their race.
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בס''ד
The headline in this thread is offensive. In fact, the thread as a whole does not make JTF look good. We have repeatedly requested that members not post things that will hurt our movement.
Why offend Asian Americans? Unlike the vast majority of blacks and Arabs, Asian Americans work hard, do well in school, do not demand or need special treatment, do not bother or attack other ethnic groups and have decent clean neighborhoods. Asian Americans saved many neighborhoods in Queens that were being destroyed by primitive savages.
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I just saw this thread and am a bit late in my response. I am sorry that this has caused people to be offended. But why are people saying "Mike", since when do people post first names in a forum that uses screenames? If people want their names to be used, they would use them. If they use a screenname- why are people responding to someone on a first name basis?
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בס''ד
The headline in this thread is offensive. In fact, the thread as a whole does not make JTF look good. We have repeatedly requested that members not post things that will hurt our movement.
Why offend Asian Americans? Unlike the vast majority of blacks and Arabs, Asian Americans work hard, do well in school, do not demand or need special treatment, do not bother or attack other ethnic groups and have decent clean neighborhoods. Asian Americans saved many neighborhoods in Queens that were being destroyed by primitive savages.
Chaim, I think the post may have been out of irritation, and IT may not of been meant to be an insult. But I do think it should be a two way street here on the forum about races. We don't have to call out individual races, but we definitely should call out low rent losers. Imo.
I don't think everyone should jump on Muman...
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בס''ד
The headline in this thread is offensive. In fact, the thread as a whole does not make JTF look good. We have repeatedly requested that members not post things that will hurt our movement.
Why offend Asian Americans? Unlike the vast majority of blacks and Arabs, Asian Americans work hard, do well in school, do not demand or need special treatment, do not bother or attack other ethnic groups and have decent clean neighborhoods. Asian Americans saved many neighborhoods in Queens that were being destroyed by primitive savages.
Chaim,
The accusation that this post was meant as an insult to all Asians is LUDICHRIS...
Compared to some of the offensive titles which are posted here this is nothing. It is OK to call people the K word yet calling a Jew hater like Ban Ki Moon a monkey is offensive? PLEASE CHAIM!
You know that this is a false claim. I had no intention of offending anyone except those who support the idiotic plan of the UN WHICH IS LEAD BY A KOREAN BAN KI MOON!
It seems you take it that I was intentionally posting this as an offense against the whole Asian people. That is completely and patently false.
ACK has upset me a little and I hope that we can resolve it.
Sometimes it is fascinating what slander is taken as fact here. I am beginning to see that things at JTF are not what they seem...
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You have not read that I have no problem with Oriental men and women and work with them daily. I do have problems with Asians who are working to destroy the Jewish state. And the reason I am involved in JTF is to work toward preserving the Jewish state.
It is OK for others to make disgusting racist posts on purpose. But ACK starts in with this act ( I don't believe for a moment he was really offended ). It is offensive when members use the K word here, and call blacks all kinds of names, and I call a swine Korean an 'ape' and 'monkey' I am the bad guy....
What is the purpose of posting here? I have contributed every day to discussions on Judaism, discussions on Israel and the government, on countries which are antisemitic and on other topics. I am not a RACIST and never have been. That is EXACTLY the point. And ACK here is playing a stupid game.
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You have not read that I have no problem with Oriental men and women and work with them daily. I do have problems with Asians who are working to destroy the Jewish state. And the reason I am involved in JTF is to work toward preserving the Jewish state.
It is OK for others to make disgusting racist posts on purpose. But ACK starts in with this act ( I don't believe for a moment he was really offended ). It is offensive when members use the K word here, and call blacks all kinds of names, and I call a swine Korean an 'ape' and 'monkey' I am the bad guy....
What is the purpose of posting here? I have contributed every day to discussions on Judaism, discussions on Israel and the government, on countries which are antisemitic and on other topics. I am not a RACIST and never have been. That is EXACTLY the point. And ACK here is playing a stupid game.
Muman, this is a big misunderstanding, lets just take a time out...
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The good guy in me will re-name this thread.... But I hope to hear someone understand the truth here...
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It is offensive when members use the K word here, and call blacks all kinds of names, and I call a swine Korean an 'ape' and 'monkey' I am the bad guy....
I...have to say, I agree with this. Some people call Jews the K word in the forum sometimes. Others call black people names all the time.
I personally try to ignore it. But I agree with the post I quoted.
Muman was referring to one evil person not to all Asians. It's like if I call Ahmandinejad an Iranian Persian ape jerk moron...would I be talking about ALL Persians?
I commend you Muman for (in the name of peace and friendliness), having changed the tittle of the thread. At the same time, I know you're not a racist. And I DISAGREE with people responding Muman on a first name basis as it was done a few posts ago. If Muman goes by Muman on the forum, that is what we should call him.
At the same time, because of past experiences I sometimes feel people like to group up against him alone. I hope I'm wrong about that.
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I...have to say, I agree with this. Some people call Jews the K word in the forum sometimes. Others call black people names all the time.
I personally try to ignore it. But I agree with the post I quoted.
Muman was referring to one evil person not to all Asians. It's like if I call Ahmandinejad an Iranian Persian ape jerk moron...would I be talking about ALL Persians.
I commend you Muman for in the name of peace, having changed the tittle of the thread. At the same time, I know you're not a racist. And I DISAGREE with people responding Muman on a first name basis as it was done a few posts ago. If Muman goes by Muman on the forum, that is what we should call him.
Thank you so much IsraeliHeart... I am trying to make peace here once again and hope that ACK accepts my PM with good intentions.
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The good guy in me will re-name this thread.... But I hope to hear someone understand the truth here...
I hear you. I hinted at what Chaim said though, what you think means nothing in regards to what someone else thinks. Ban-ki-moon is a rabid chimp. If you said ape Ban-ki-moon a disgrace to asia or something, that could be a legit example of calling him an ape. When you say ape after oriental or any nation, it can be argued that you call all people from that place that. It's really splitting hairs, and in a normal world, everyone would get it, but when people are looking for a weak link, make accidents impossible to happen, as I say.
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If you want to talk about Asian monkeys, look at the Arab World. As I keep on pointing out, Asia is not just the Far East. Islam was founded by Mohammad. I guess he was an Asian monkey. In fact, the Arabian Peninsula in Southwest Asia is the source of the majority of the problems that pose a threat to World peace. Arabian Asian monkeys should be condemned. But the majority of the continent of Asia are not monkeys. China has a billion people and so does India. Does Islam have 2 billion people in Asia? Remember the Arab World also includes North Africa so that is not Asia. But even Arabs in North Africa that are descended from real Arabs (Not Arabized North Africans) are also Asian, just like American Jews are Asian. On the other hand Indonesia is part of Asia and is the largest Muslim country in the World. But we don't hate Muslims because they are Asian, but rather because of their culture, which is based on a religion to kill all Non-Muslims.
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1. Muman creates literally thousands of excellent threads and posts on this forum for years now. He deserves our gratitude and appreciation. Moreover, by bringing truth and enlightenment to the many people who visit our forum, Muman knows that he is fulfilling what Hashem commands us to do. We are not allowed to be silent in the face of injustice. We are obligated to try and make this a better world.
2. However, in my opinion, the title that was on this thread was not helpful. We have enough enemies. Why open a new front by insulting Asians? Calling someone an "Oriental ape" is obviously offensive.
3. Yes, people on this forum have used that term in regard to blacks, which is also not wise. But the reason there is anger here toward blacks is because of the vicious racism and anti-Semitism that so many blacks are guilty of.
4. To antagonize Asians, who are also victims of black racism, makes no sense. Asians are discriminated against with "affirmative action" the same way Jews are. Asians should be our natural allies.
5. As far as calling self-hating Jews "kikes", I have stopped doing so on this forum because Muman asked me to. But when that term is used by some members of a militantly pro-Israel, pro-Jewish Kahanist Torah movement like JTF, the obvious intention is to attack self-hating Jewish anti-Semites who do more harm to the Jewish people than Gentile anti-Semites could ever dream of doing. Blacks call each other "n-igger" and "Uncle Tom" and it works - most blacks are terrified of daring to go against their own. It would be very healthy to have Judenrat kapo Jewish traitors equally intimidated.
3. Personal feuds and petty disputes turn people off and harm our movement. I think it is a sin to do that to an organization that is trying so hard against all odds to save the lives and souls of Jews and righteous Gentiles. If something you post will hurt us, you should not post it. Shlomo and I work day and night and have devoted our entire lives to this cause. Why would any moral person do something that undermines everything we are trying to achieve?
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Blacks call each other "n-igger" and "Uncle Tom" and it works - most blacks are terrified of daring to go against their own. It would be very healthy to have Judenrat kapo Jewish traitors equally intimidated.
I never thought of that. I see your point in using the word... we've gotta turn Judenrat kapo traitor into something catchy like uncle Tom then.
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I agree that we should protect fellow forum members privacy.
But...People should also be wary of sharing their own information.
It is important that we to try keep our private information private.:-X
If you put too much information out there....don't expect people not to run with it.
I'm often concerned for Muman's safety. He seems to put himself out there without fear.
Some fear is healthy.
And I DISAGREE with people responding Muman on a first name basis as it was done a few posts ago. If Muman goes by Muman on the forum, that is what we should call him.
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I never thought of that. I see your point in using the word... we've gotta turn Judenrat kapo traitor into something catchy like uncle Tom then.
"Uncle Jake" is a good term as opposed to kike.
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"Uncle Jake" is a good term as opposed to kike.
We're not copying shvartzes. Something more original. Good shot anywhoo.
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We're not copying shvartzes. Something more original. Good shot anywhoo.
Who said anything about copying blacks? I never came up with that term anyway. The late, great Rabbi Kahane used that term.
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Who said anything about copying blacks? I never came up with that term anyway. The late, great Rabbi Kahane used that term.
didn't know that part... is the story behind it catchy? Still sounds too close to uncle Tom. It can be improved upon.
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I believe that nobody is mad at you mums.
I believe you're right.
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I just saw this thread and am a bit late in my response. I am sorry that this has caused people to be offended. But why are people saying "Mike", since when do people post first names in a forum that uses screenames? If people want their names to be used, they would use them. If they use a screenname- why are people responding to someone on a first name basis?
muman pointed that out in private already.
I thought I was being friend by calling him "Mike".
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sorry to have cause any problems.
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I was not making a blanket comment that all 'Orientals' are apes or make monkey noises... Not my intention at all.
But when anyone starts making noises like Ban Ki Moon and his UN cohorts it sounds to me like ape noise. It is monkey talk and it has nothing to do with real monkeys, or blacks, or anything else.
I remember being in chat rooms and people talking about how "Kofi Anan" meant monkey cloud. :::D
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I remember being in chat rooms and people talking about how "Kofi Anan" meant monkey cloud. :::D
It does. In Hebrew it literally means "my monkey cloud." But he isn't my monkey so I would call him Kof Annan.
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It does. In Hebrew it literally means "my monkey cloud." But he isn't my monkey so I would call him Kof Annan.
Veteran JTFers know that from Chaim.
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Talking about the 'Ananei HaKavod' (Clouds of Glory) they are related to this weeks Torah reading...
http://rabbibuchwald.njop.org/2009/06/29/chukat-balak-5769-2009/
The Midrash builds an elaborate narrative, connecting the previous Torah portion concerning the death of Aaron with the attack of the Canaanites. The final verse of the previous chapter (Numbers 20:29) tells us that all the people of Israel saw that Aaron had passed away and wept for Aaron for 30 days. The rabbis suggest that the extensive mourning of the people for Aaron was not only because he was very much beloved, but because the “Ananei Hakavod,” the Clouds of Glory, departed from Israel after Aaron’s death, just as the well departed from Israel after Miriam’s death. Without the clouds, the people felt vulnerable and unprotected, and they cried in fear.
The opening verse of Numbers 21 states that the Canaanite king of Arad heard that Israel had come through the route of Atarim. Since the Torah states that the king of Arad “heard” rather than “saw,” the rabbis of the Midrash suggest that the Canaanite king concluded that this was a good time to attack because he had heard that Aaron had died and that the Clouds of Glory no longer protected Israel.
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Veteran JTFers know that from Chaim.
Yup.
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You have not read that I have no problem with Oriental men and women and work with them daily. I do have problems with Asians who are working to destroy the Jewish state. And the reason I am involved in JTF is to work toward preserving the Jewish state.
It is OK for others to make disgusting racist posts on purpose. But ACK starts in with this act ( I don't believe for a moment he was really offended ). It is offensive when members use the K word here, and call blacks all kinds of names, and I call a swine Korean an 'ape' and 'monkey' I am the bad guy....
What is the purpose of posting here? I have contributed every day to discussions on Judaism, discussions on Israel and the government, on countries which are antisemitic and on other topics. I am not a RACIST and never have been. That is EXACTLY the point. And ACK here is playing a stupid game.
Whoa! It's a good thing I wasn't paying attention.
Good thing I resolved this with m BEFORE reading this.
I'm not acting. I already explained my disabilities in the past, about how I'm misunderstood on a daily basis.
Anyone interested, please search 'autism spectrum disorder '
http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/pages/communication-problems-in-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder.aspx (http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/pages/communication-problems-in-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder.aspx)
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/Autism.htm (http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/Autism.htm)
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Whoa! It's a good thing I wasn't paying attention.
Good thing I resolved this with m BEFORE reading this.
I'm not acting. I already explained my disabilities in the past, about how I'm misunderstood on a daily basis.
Anyone interested, please search 'autism spectrum disorder '
http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/pages/communication-problems-in-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder.aspx (http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/pages/communication-problems-in-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder.aspx)
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/Autism.htm (http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/Autism.htm)
Buddy, Muman was upset at this point. When you're angry things go to far sometimes... :)
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Not to sound like a FAG, but I love ya ack!
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Not to sound like a FAG, but I love ya ack!
:guitar: :love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Vn17S37_Y
(http://mebeats.com/cheff/files/2011/12/20090503060445OnlyYou.jpg)
It's not gay to love a man :laugh: :doctor: :teach:
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Funny! :thumbsdown:
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Yes, ACK and I have talked in PM and I am no longer upset about this.
I apologize for saying some of those things about you ACK... I don't believe you did anything on purpose now that we have talked about it.
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Yes, we're better now.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dT4wooU-pQ8/TIg4j53nzvI/AAAAAAAACP8/1ujwKIMHZtQ/s400/bush-holding-hands-with-saudi-royalty.jpg)
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It does. In Hebrew it literally means "my monkey cloud." But he isn't my monkey so I would call him Kof Annan.
I wonder whose monkey he is? lol
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Talking about the 'Ananei HaKavod' (Clouds of Glory) they are related to this weeks Torah reading...
Isn't it disrespectful comparing "Ananei HaKavod" with Kof Annan?
The only think in common is the word cloud. There is a big difference between glory and monkey, especially since the Clouds of Glory are holy. Kof Annan is just a Hamitic piece of garbage. His name is obviously insulting to real monkeys.
BTW, there is a coffee shop in the Golan Heights called Cafe Anan. It is atop a lookout where you can see a view and there are signs saying how many kilometers to certain cities.
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Isn't it disrespectful comparing "Ananei HaKavod" with Kof Annan?
The only think in common is the word cloud. There is a big difference between glory and monkey, especially since the Clouds of Glory are holy. Kof Annan is just a Hamitic piece of garbage. His name is obviously insulting to real monkeys.
BTW, there is a coffee shop in the Golan Heights called Cafe Anan. It is atop a lookout where you can see a view and there are signs saying how many kilometers to certain cities.
I was not comparing Kofi Anan (leHavdil) to the Clouds of glory. I was just pointing out the word 'Ananie' is the word for Clouds...
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“Coffee Annan” Coffee House
Near the IDF’s bunker, at the top of Bental Mount, resides the highest coffeehouse in Israel, at around 1,165 meter above sea level, “Coffee Annan”. The coffeehouse offers a breathtaking view, quality coffee and a relaxed atmosphere where you can stare a cloud straight in the eye. The all-dairy kitchen offers freshly baked goods, luxurious breakfasts, a variety of sandwiches, rich salads and a comprehensive soup bar during the winter months.
You can enjoy an event of up to 100 people in “Coffee Annan”, for all kinds of parties and gatherings. The coffeehouse is open every day between the hours 9.00-17.00. Hotel guests enjoy a 10% discount with hotel room key. For information and table bookings, call: 04-6820664.
Under these circumstances, a wonderful chance to visit the charming “Yaffe Bakaffe” Shop, residing on Mount Bental as well. In the shop you can find Drorit Kaufman’s designer’s fleece clothes; Drorit’s designs can also be provided through the Kibutz’s sewing workshop, at: 050-5719987. “Yaffe Bakaffe” shop is open every day between the hours 10.00-17.00.
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(http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/F120724TA10.jpg)
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LOL! I just realized there is a guy with a UN shirt in the picture. I wonder if people pointed out to him that the name could be making fun of the animal that used to head the UN.
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I thought Chaim said kof is krap?
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I thought Chaim said kof is krap?
"Kof" is monkey. I think you mean "kaka" or "kaki" (as in Pipi Kaka Yoyo), which is the Hebrew equivalent to poo in English.
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"Kof" is monkey. I think you mean "kaka" or "kaki" (as in Pipi Kaka Yoyo), which is the Hebrew equivalent to poo in English.
That's right monkey.