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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joe Gutfeld on June 26, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
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The Supreme court ruled that DOMA and Prop 8 are unconstitional. What do you guys think about that. Maybe one of you can ask Chaim about that on the ASK JTF this week.
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I think it's so gay.
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Well, whatever.
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This is an obscenity. I am opposed to homosexuals "marrying." Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman. Period. In an ideal America homosexuality would be outlawed and declared to be a serious mental illness. But since that is obviously not going to happen in the foreseeable future I support fair and equitable civil unions for homosexuals.
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I agree gays shouldn't marry
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a hand full of lawyers vs california voters.
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Be prepared for some crazy hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires, tornados, tsunamis, blizzards, and/or volcanoes.
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Be prepared for some crazy hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires, tornados, tsunamis, blizzards, and/or volcanoes.
You're right Dr. Dan, and the sad part about that is, that the innocent will often suffer right along with the guilty.
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Be prepared for some crazy hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires, tornados, tsunamis, blizzards, and/or volcanoes.
http://www.agweb.com/mobile/newsdetail.aspx?ArticleId=337720
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That corn isn't real corn for the most part anyway. It's a fish hybrid.
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I am very sad for our country. We were once the moral beacon for the world but we have fallen so very much in so very little time. My grandparents would not recognize this country today, and my great-great grandparents would be disgusted by it. I hope that there is some light at the end of the tunnel because things are beginning to look very dark for America.
Sexual immorality is one of the primary reasons nations will fall. As I said before the next step would be allowing people to marry their animals, inanimate objects, and virtual entities. The only ones who may benefit would be those in the 'mental health' field (doctors and pharma companies) as they have many more perverse syndromes to deal with.
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That corn isn't real corn for the most part anyway. It's a fish hybrid.
Oh... okay. So we'll be okay? Wait! What about the poor non gmo corn?
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Be prepared for some crazy hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires, tornados, tsunamis, blizzards, and/or volcanoes.
And then the liberals will blame it on "global warming".
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That corn isn't real corn for the most part anyway. It's a fish hybrid.
What is that?
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The US Inferior Court ruled that the federal government has to recognize homosexual "marriages" in states that recognize it. But it outlawed the law against homosexual "marriages" in California. How can it force a state to recognize it? Just because they made a law against it? What about states with no laws against it? The decision that forces the federal government to recognize it only applies in states that legalized it. So why have a double standard for California.
What about the Tenth Ammendment? The court's ruling is un-constitutional.
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I am quite upset because I expressly voted for Prop 8 to ensure that the fags would not be able to be married. I think that Marriage is a special union between a man and a woman, and that anything else can only be considered a 'civil union'. I voted and my vote was counted and the Proposition 8 passed. Now they are disenfranchising me and the majority of California voters by saying that we cannot decide who receives the legal ability to be 'married'. Since when was there a 'right' to marriage? People have been able to live just fine without being married so there is not 'civil right' to marriage. As they could argue that their 'happiness' is infringed by such a law, so too could someone argue that because the government doesn't recognize legal unions with animals that his/her happiness is infringed upon... The whole legal premise of gay marriage is perverted.
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And then the liberals will blame it on "global warming".
They've abandoned using that term. Now the stupid euphemism is "climate change," which is as frequent as the sun rising. Utter nonsense.
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What about the Tenth Ammendment? The court's ruling is un-constitutional.
The Constitution is a document that politicians only pay lip service to depending on whether it suits their particular interests or agenda. It's a document that has largely been ignored.
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They've abandoned using that term. Now the stupid euphemism is "climate change," which is as frequent as the sun rising. Utter nonsense.
I guess because if they use it to refer to some Winters having more snow than others while some Summers are warmer than others, they realize warming only refers to the Summer part.
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I am quite upset because I expressly voted for Prop 8 to ensure that the fags would not be able to be married. I think that Marriage is a special union between a man and a woman, and that anything else can only be considered a 'civil union'. I voted and my vote was counted and the Proposition 8 passed. Now they are disenfranchising me and the majority of California voters by saying that we cannot decide who receives the legal ability to be 'married'. Since when was there a 'right' to marriage? People have been able to live just fine without being married so there is not 'civil right' to marriage. As they could argue that their 'happiness' is infringed by such a law, so too could someone argue that because the government doesn't recognize legal unions with animals that his/her happiness is infringed upon... The whole legal premise of gay marriage is perverted.
I guess they want government recognition for tax purposes. If they file jointly for income tax, they could get benefits. Also, they can be on their "spouse's" health insurance.
It's disgusting. Many people which they could marry someone of the opposite sex. That includes many single people on this forum. But these homos don't want to get married. They just want the government to recognize their Sodomist lifestyles.
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This has yet to be noted on this site or on any other site that I've visited thus far, something that in my opinion the elephant in the room: Churches will soon (and very soon) face the choice of conducting gay wedding ceremonies or lose their tax exempt status, or worse.
There's legal precedence for this. Many years ago, a handful of churches that refused to welcome inter-racial couples lost their tax exempt status by IRS action.
I'll be impressed when somebody forces a mosque to accept this abomination.
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Religious institutions are supposed to be non-political for tax exempt status. So you can't force places of worship to listen to the evil politicians regarding political prostitution (Activist judges and politicans supporting homo "marriages".).
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What is that?
It's corn that has been genetically altered with Arctic fish genes to make it more resistant cold and frost. I was making a joke about fish-corn being resistant to flooding and lots of rain.
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Is that corn real? Should we boycott it?
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Is that corn real? Should we boycott it?
Yes. It's not good, corn is in everything, and it's never good to mess with Gd's creations. And I believe it goes against Torah, for everyone.
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And then the liberals will blame it on "global warming".
maybe its because gays buy up all the carbon credits.
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This 2 minute video explains what happened today. It could have been worse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liG7yDzXk2Y&
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And then the liberals will blame it on "global warming".
Nah! The liberals will blame Bush instead.
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Maybe we should demand polygamy be legalized?
Polygamy is mutar according to halacha.
I know some chochom will bring up the Cherem D'Rabbeinu Gershom,well that was for only 1000 years & that 1000 years is way over making it non-operative today.
It never effected Sephardim/Eidot HaMizrach.
Only reason we don't do it is because it is illegal in all western countries.
It should be legal partcularly in Israel if just to answer the demographic problem.
Both Rabbi David Bar-Hayim of Machon Shilo & Rabbi Dov Stein of the reconstituted Sanhedrin concur & hold it should be legal.
I homo marriage which is asur is legal than so should polygamy which is mutar.
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Maybe we should demand polygamy be legalized?
Polygamy is mutar according to halacha.
I know some chochom will bring up the Cherem D'Rabbeinu Gershom,well that was for only 1000 years & that 1000 years is way over making it non-operative today.
It never effected Sephardim/Eidot HaMizrach.
Only reason we don't do it is because it is illegal in all western countries.
It should be legal partcularly in Israel if just to answer the demographic problem.
Both Rabbi David Bar-Hayim of Machon Shilo & Rabbi Dov Stein of the reconstituted Sanhedrin concur & hold it should be legal.
I homo marriage which is asur is legal than so should polygamy which is mutar.
While I see your point, there in lies a problem. It's not so much the problem of people looking down at it. It's other people who are perverted who would use polygamy the wrong and perverted way...and who knows? Can lead to bisexual polygamy of orgies.
If something as sensitive as polygamy were to become legal, then certain punishments regarding sexual immorality should exist too. And here in lies another problem. Our society today is not ready for either polygamy nor punishment for sexual immorality.
My advice would be to choose your battles wisely. Institute Kahanist style anti-homosexual and a Pro Torah agenda to begin moving people away from sin. After that bring them towards holiness. After holiness then polygamy can be understood and practiced appropriately.
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What is that?
Genetically modified corn has genes from fish in it, so it's a corn/fish hybrid and probably has other stuff added in too. There was a variety of genetically modified rice that had human genes in it. I don't like that kind of thing.
Oh... okay. So we'll be okay? Wait! What about the poor non gmo corn?
I do want the actual corn to survive. I like sweet corn as long as it's corn.
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Even when it was practiced "appropriately" there were major problems. Do you see in the Bible the enmity between Leah and Rachel for example? The polygamous system caused these sisters to envy/hate each other, and this was a righteous family.
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Even when it was practiced "appropriately" there were major problems. Do you see in the Bible the enmity between Leah and Rachel for example? The polygamous system caused these sisters to envy/hate each other, and this was a righteous family.
It should still be an option for those who choose do so within halachic parameters & who can afford it.
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Even when it was practiced "appropriately" there were major problems. Do you see in the Bible the enmity between Leah and Rachel for example? The polygamous system caused these sisters to envy/hate each other, and this was a righteous family.
That was before the Torah was given. Men also married their own sisters when necessary so the World would be populated (It's said that Jacob's sons married their brothers' twin sisters.
When Jacob got to the Land of Israel, Rachel had to die because it's not permitted to marry two sisters according to the Torah.