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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on June 28, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
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I will be praying over Shabbat that Sunday will be a day of liberation of Egypt from the bondage of the muslim brotherhood. It should be a bloody day which will bring down the MB from their high horse...
June 30 is the anniversary of the Morsi presidency. It is the day the opposition plans a multimillion man protest against this islamic jihadi government. The government swears it will deal with the protest with an IRON FIST crushing those who go out to protest.
We will see what will happen, may it be for the best...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/25/us-egypt-protests-panic-idUSBRE95O14E20130625
(Reuters) - Egyptians are stocking up on food, fuel and cash ahead of protests this weekend against President Mohamed Mursi that many fear will be the most violent and disruptive this year.
Mursi's liberal, leftist and secular-minded opponents have called on Egyptians to take to the streets on June 30 - the one-year anniversary of the Islamist president's first day in office - to demand his resignation.
Street cafes, minibuses, banks, offices and grocery stores across the Arab world's most populous country have been abuzz for weeks with talk of the "June 30" protests.
Many people have started hoarding essentials, fearing a repeat of the disruption that hit business and transport during the 18-day revolt that ousted President Hosni Mubarak in 2011.
Mona Kamel, a 52-year-old office secretary, said she had bought a week's worth of rice, pasta, sugar, milk, bread and cheese to see her family through any disruption.
"My neighbors, friends and colleagues are all doing this just in case," she said. "Maybe there will be curfews, maybe bakeries won't run their ovens. It's better to be prepared."
Long queues have formed at petrol stations across Cairo over the last few days, blocking thoroughfares and worsening already snarling gridlock. Some motorists said they were trying to fuel up ahead of the demonstrations.
The oil ministry on Tuesday dismissed "rumors" of fuel shortages and urged citizens not to be "misled" into hoarding petrol, the state news agency MENA reported.
But Mona Waleed, a 39-year-old local oil firm employee, said she sat in line at a petrol station for four hours on Tuesday waiting to fill up.
Waleed, who said she also made two trips to the bank this week to make sure her family of four had enough cash to last a month, said the 2011 uprising had taken many people off guard.
"This time, people are afraid and they are getting ready," she said.
FEAR OF VIOLENCE
Anti-Mursi activists have been boosted by the momentum of a months-old signature drive to withdraw confidence from the president, known as "Tamarod" or "Rebel". The campaign claims to have gathered 15 million signatures, more than the number of votes Mursi received in last year's presidential election.
A coalition of Mursi's Islamist supporters - including his Muslim Brotherhood - has called for counter-demonstrations to assert his legitimacy, raising the chances of violent confrontations between the two sides. The tension prompted Egypt's army to warn it may step in to impose order.
Organizers have called for marches from downtown Cairo and surrounding neighborhoods to the presidential palace in the suburb of Heliopolis, where rival factions of Mursi's supporters and opponents have clashed in the past.
In the suburb of Nasr City, Rijan Samier, 41, said she started to worry about the potential for confrontation when thousands of Islamists flooded her neighborhood on Friday to rally outside a local mosque in support of the president.
Some of her neighbors set up checkpoints to prevent the protesters from reaching the mosque through their street, she said, although the day passed without violence.
"Thank God, nothing happened this time," Samier said.
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.....and some combination of that will destroy Egypt?
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.....and some combination of that will destroy Egypt?
I hope that there is mass turnout against Muslim Brotherhood. This will cause the government to resort to killing it's own citizens leaving fewer, if any, to rise against us.
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We should all pray for this tonight! :usa+israel: :soldier: :fireworks:
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I hope that there is mass turnout against Muslim Brotherhood. This will cause the government to resort to killing it's own citizens leaving fewer, if any, to rise against us.
And Al-Queda to replace them...which means Israel will have no choice but to do its thing and retake Gd given's land for themselves.
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Isn't Al-Qaida the same as the Muslim Brotherhood? Is one worse than the other? Neither use Taqiyya. There's no difference. Mubarak used Taqiyya to some extent. Sadat certainly did.
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I hope that there is mass turnout against Muslim Brotherhood. This will cause the government to resort to killing it's own citizens leaving fewer, if any, to rise against us.
Actually the more of them the worse off they are. Remember they need to feed all of them and Egypt is very broke, illiterate and poor. Their are worse off having a BIGGER population. Today's wars is not 1 to 1 combat or other such things. Many things involved including economics and the necessity to feed people.
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Hopefully the Muslim Brotherhood will fall.
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Muman has a good point here. Prayers can move mountains. In Iraq, Saddam Hussein fell, In Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden fell, and in Libya Khadaffi is gone, as well as Hosni Mubarak ousted from Egypt. Now there is upheaval in Syria. Dictator after Dictator continues to fall, and yet dictators are still in charge which has not led to democracy at all, instead military dictatorships are taking over to destabilize the governments forming the Islamic caliphate, and then focus on Jerusalem. Zechariah 14: 2-3 foresaw this day.
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Actually the more of them the worse off they are. Remember they need to feed all of them and Egypt is very broke, illiterate and poor. Their are worse off having a BIGGER population. Today's wars is not 1 to 1 combat or other such things. Many things involved including economics and the necessity to feed people.
Tag, you can pray for any type of destruction you want... Also, I was thinking, what if we had special JTF prayers on special occasions and we all prayed at the same time. For example Israel prays at 2pm, New York at 7am, Chicago at 6, the hippies at 4, ect?
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In over all terms, this is a good indication.
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We may see some very positive developments tomorrow. Pray for civil war
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Tag, you can pray for any type of destruction you want... Also, I was thinking, what if we had special JTF prayers on special occasions and we all prayed at the same time. For example Israel prays at 2pm, New York at 7am, Chicago at 6, the hippies at 4, ect?
So anyone in the Pacific Time Zone is a hippie? I doubt such people would support JTF though. But it's funny. LOL!
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So anyone in the Pacific Time Zone is a hippie? I doubt such people would support JTF though. But it's funny. LOL!
I was poking Muman. :::D
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Anyone have any news on Egypt?
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I heard about rioting in Alexandria. I think that's where Chaim's family lived.
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Millions of people protested, only four dead so far.... A little disappointing...
But I don't think things are going to settle down...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7-iLLgmAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtNlrfSeefU
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Cairo goes mad!
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/01/v-fullstory/3479472/egypt-protesters-storm-muslim.html
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If Morsi does not get down easily, the the muslamic infighting can ensue in egypt.
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What strikes me as funny is that the Egyptians elected the Muslim Brotherhood canindate as president, now they are protesting them. How funny is that?
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What strikes me as funny is that the Egyptians elected the Muslim Brotherhood canindate as president, now they are protesting them. How funny is that?
Muslamics are so funny that for the sake of going to jannat-72, they can eat up and swallow themselves.
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With Radamanadoodoo around the corner, they may be too busy to fight..but who knows?
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http://www.newsmaxworld.com/GlobalTalk/egypt-military-issues-ultimatum/2013/07/01/id/512777
Egypt's Military Issues 48-hour Ultimatum to Morsi, Opponents
Monday, 01 Jul 2013 11:00 AM
CAIRO — Egypt's powerful armed forces issued a virtual ultimatum to Islamist President Mohammed Morsi on Monday, calling on the nation's feuding politicians to agree on an inclusive road map for the country's future within 48 hours.
A dramatic military statement broadcast on state television declared the nation was in danger after millions of Egyptians took to the streets on Sunday to demand that Morsi quit and the headquarters of the ruling Muslim Brotherhood were ransacked.
"If the demands of the people are not realized within the defined period, it will be incumbent upon [the armed forces] . . . to announce a road map for the future," said the statement by chief-of-staff General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi. It was followed by patriotic music.
The people had expressed their will with unprecedented clarity in the mass demonstrations and wasting more time would only increase the danger of division and violence, he said.
The army said it would oversee the implementation of the road map it sought "with the participation of all factions and national parties, including young people," but it would not get directly involved in politics or government.
Anti-Morsi demonstrators outside the presidential palace cheered the army statement, and the main opposition National Salvation Front, which has demanded a national unity government for months, applauded the military's move.
It was the second time in just over a week that the armed forces had issued a formal warning to the politicians, and it appeared to pile pressure on Morsi to concede power-sharing with the liberal, secular, and left-wing opposition.
SELF-DEFENSE?
After the destruction of its offices, the Brotherhood which operated underground until the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak in 2011, said it was considering how best to defend itself.
Cities were quiet after Sunday's mass rallies that were bigger than anything seen since the Arab Spring uprising. But the ransacking of the Brotherhood's office highlighted deepening political polarization, prompting the movement to talk of acting in self-defense.
Five non-Brotherhood government ministers tendered their resignations from the cabinet, apparently in sympathy with the protesters, underlining a sense of isolation for the party that won a series of elections last year.
"Both sides are still in their trenches," a senior European diplomat said just before the military statement.
Cairo's Tahrir Square was filling again in late afternoon, with thousands of people gathering for a second day.
For those who declared the protests a continuation of the revolution that toppled Mubarak, images of young men waving national flags at the scorched and shattered windows of the Brotherhood compound recalled the fall of Mubarak's ruling party offices, whose charred hulk still looks out over the Nile.
Eight people died in a night of fighting around the Brotherhood building, where guards fired on youths hurling rocks and fire bombs. A Brotherhood official said two of its members were hurt. Another eight people were killed in clashes around the country on Sunday.
The Brotherhood's official spokesman told Reuters that the attack had crossed a red line of violence and among possible responses might be to revive "self-defense committees" former during the 2011 uprising.
"The people will not sit silent," Gehad El-Haddad said.
Morsi's movement complained at the lack of police protection, which can only heighten its sense of being under siege from both the liberal opposition and state officialdom inherited from the old regime.
NOT TALKING
Liberal protest organizers, who declared Morsi ousted by people power on Sunday, gave him a new deadline of 5 p.m. on Tuesday to quit and call elections or face a new mass rally.
Morsi, who has not appeared in person, renewed offers of dialogue via allies and pledged to work with a new parliament that could be elected if disputes over election rules can be ironed out. But he has so far made no substantial concessions.
The opposition does not trust the Islamist movement, which critics accuse of using a series of electoral victories to monopolize power. They want a total reset of the rules of a democracy imperfectly worked out over the past two years.
Morsi again acknowledged through a spokesman that he had made mistakes, adding that he was working to fix them and was open to dialogue. He made similar offers last week, which were dismissed by the opposition. But he showed no sign of quitting.
An aide to Morsi outlined three ways forward: parliamentary elections, which he called "the most obvious"; national dialogue, which he said opponents had repeatedly rejected; and third, early presidential elections, as demanded by protesters.
But that, he said, "simply destroys our democracy".
The massive protests showed that the Brotherhood has not only alienated liberals and secularists by seeking to entrench Islamic rule, notably in a new constitution, but has also angered millions of Egyptians with economic mismanagement.
Tourism and investment have dried up, inflation is rampant and fuel supplies are running short, with power cuts lengthening in the summer heat and motorists spending hours fueling cars.
The cost of insuring government debt against default surged to record highs. Forward contracts indicated a significant fall for the pound against the dollar.
Protest organizers called on Egyptians to keep occupying central squares across the country in a campaign of peaceful civil disobedience until Morsi goes.
Up to now, the Brotherhood has interpreted the army's stance as an endorsement of Morsi's electoral legitimacy. However, his opponents believe the generals are now clearly pressing Morsi to relent. Army helicopters were counting protesters on Sunday.
Some uniformed policemen marched among protesters in Cairo and Alexandria, chanting "the police and the people are one," and several senior officers addressed the Tahrir Square crowd.
Adding to the failure to protect the Brotherhood headquarters, that cast doubt on whether Morsi could rely on the security forces to clear the streets if he gave the order.
Opposition leaders, who have seen previous protest waves fizzle after a few days in December and January, were to meet on Monday afternoon to plot their next move.
Condemning the violence, their coalition leadership said: "We call upon the great Egyptian people who turned out in millions . . . demanding democratic transition and early presidential elections, to maintain the peaceful nature of this great new revolutionary wave, and to remain steadfast in the streets and squares until their demands are met."
The United States and the European Union have urged Morsi to share power with the opposition, saying only a national consensus can help Egypt overcome a severe economic crisis and build democratic institutions.
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They go crazy during the nights of Ramadan. I was in Israel on Rosh Chodesh Av 2 years ago and they wouldn't let the Jews march around the Temple Mount gates as is customary on Erev Rosh Chodesh. It was the first night of Ramadan and they were all going crazy. They had lights hung up in their smelly neighborhoods in the Old City that looked like X-mas lights. I had to walk alone to go around the walls. I stopped at one place facing the Temple Mount from the Northern Wall to read the Shema so one of them threatened to hit me and the police called me "tzadik" and to go somewhere else to read (For my own safety.). Also on Tisha B'Av, the Women In Green march from the American Consulate to the Kotel through the heart of "Downtown East Jerusalem" had to start late at night because of the Muzzies going crazy for Ramadan along the route near Damascus Gate. It didn't bother me because it made the night go faster since I didn't have anywhere to sleep (I stayed at the Kotel all night.).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBQsyOvRUwg