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Title: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Lisa on July 02, 2013, 10:47:11 PM
He's 86 years old, and was just diagnosed with leukemia.  The doctors want him to come to the hospital this week. 

Now I realize that he's 86, and that he's had a good life, and that he's always been pretty healthy.  But I guess I always took for granted that my parents would always be there.  And I can't stop crying.  His Hebrew name is Eliahu Ben Yakov.

Also, my brother in law just died of cancer as well.  He was buried Wednesday of last week. 
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Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on July 02, 2013, 10:48:40 PM
I am so sorry Lisa.  You are all in my prayers.
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Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on July 02, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
Refuah Shelemah.

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Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on July 02, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
I'm so sorry Lisa! I will pray for them definitely!
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Post by: muman613 on July 02, 2013, 11:28:27 PM
Lisa,

Im so sorry to hear your pain. I can only relate to how I felt when my father passed three years ago. I also know how evil cancer is as my father had, and my step-father currently is dealing with cancer. I made sure that all things were resolved and there were no issues remaining. In my case I had reasons to feel anger for my father, and yet I forgave him. My only pain is never having been able to resolve my issues with my brother.

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Post by: muman613 on July 02, 2013, 11:42:37 PM
I will pray for Refuah Shlema for your father in any case. As long as there is life there is hope. I have a friend who is 94 and I pray for his health every day.
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Post by: IsraelForever on July 03, 2013, 01:48:06 AM
I'm sorry to hear this.  I will pray for your father.  I will also pray for great things from his doctors.
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Post by: Dr. Dan on July 03, 2013, 05:22:29 AM
Lisa. He's in my prayers.

Your brother in law. Is this the same one you politically butted heads with? 

I'm sorry to hear about your loss
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Post by: syyuge on July 03, 2013, 06:52:24 AM
I pray for your father.
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Post by: cjd on July 03, 2013, 07:02:46 AM
G-d willing the doctors will find some help for your fathers condition... A great deal is done with that sort of illness now days... Thoughts and prayers for your fathers recovery.... Sorry to hear about your brother in laws passing... May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Lisa on July 03, 2013, 07:39:33 AM
Lisa. He's in my prayers.

Your brother in law. Is this the same one you politically butted heads with? 

I'm sorry to hear about your loss

He's the one, Dr. Dan.
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Post by: TruthSpreader on July 03, 2013, 07:53:07 AM
Praying right now.
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Post by: nessuno on July 03, 2013, 08:43:05 AM
I am so sorry to hear that you lost your brother-in-law, Lisa.
I know you were very good to him when he was sick. 

I am also sorry to hear that your Dad is ill. 
It is very difficult when our parents are sick.  You can't put an age on good people.  They should live forever and never be sick.
The past few years have been difficult ones for my family, so I understand the fear you might have. 
Try to have a positive outlook.  Even though it is really hard.  There have been great advances in the treatment of leukemia.  Remember to enjoy your dad while he goes through this trial. I got lost in my fears and that is wasted time.
I will keep your dad and family in my prayers.
I will say an extra prayer for you to be strong. 



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Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 03, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
I pray for your father.
You seem to come from a strong family.
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Post by: briann on July 03, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
You have my prayers.  I hope and pray for the best for you and your father.
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Post by: mord on July 03, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
Lisa i will surely pray your  Father ,i have a cousin in California he's an Oncologist Hematologist .I would always argue with him that they never make any advances in medicine.He told me maybe in some types but in his line they make very rapid advances
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Post by: Confederate Kahanist on July 03, 2013, 01:26:43 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Lisa.  Many prayers your way!!
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Post by: Super Mentalita on July 03, 2013, 02:23:07 PM
Good luck Lisa, i will pray for you tonight.
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Post by: Rubystars on July 03, 2013, 03:23:12 PM
I prayed Lisa.
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Post by: eb22 on July 03, 2013, 07:23:44 PM
Lisa,   I'm sorry about the very difficult times you and your family are going through.    I hope and pray that your Father makes a complete recovery,  with plenty of good news ahead for you.
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Post by: Nachus on July 03, 2013, 07:49:37 PM


 :usa+israel:


 Lisa, I'm praying your Father has a Refuah Shlema, G-d bless
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Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 03, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
He's 86 years old, and was just diagnosed with leukemia.  The doctors want him to come to the hospital this week. 

Now I realize that he's 86, and that he's had a good life, and that he's always been pretty healthy.  But I guess I always took for granted that my parents would always be there.  And I can't stop crying.  His Hebrew name is Eliahu Ben Yakov.

Also, my brother in law just died of cancer as well.  He was buried Wednesday of last week.

Sorry to hear this sad news and sorry for your loss, Lisa.
Maybe the leukemia can be treated.  I will daven for your father.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on July 03, 2013, 08:52:18 PM

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/6421/jewish/Chapter-121.htm

 (Click link for Hebrew)

1. A song of ascents. I lift my eyes to the mountains-from where will my help come? 2. My help will come from the Lord, Maker of heaven and earth. 3. He will not let your foot falter; your guardian does not slumber. 4. Indeed, the Guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. 5. The Lord is your guardian; the Lord is your protective shade at your right hand. 6. The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. 7. The Lord will guard you from all evil; He will guard your soul. 8. The Lord will guard your going and your coming from now and for all time.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: mord on July 04, 2013, 06:20:56 AM
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/6421/jewish/Chapter-121.htm

 (Click link for Hebrew)

1. A song of ascents. I lift my eyes to the mountains-from where will my help come? 2. My help will come from the Lord, Maker of heaven and earth. 3. He will not let your foot falter; your guardian does not slumber. 4. Indeed, the Guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. 5. The Lord is your guardian; the Lord is your protective shade at your right hand. 6. The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. 7. The Lord will guard you from all evil; He will guard your soul. 8. The Lord will guard your going and your coming from now and for all time.
This is a very nice song                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CV9ivKPTf8
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Post by: davinci on July 04, 2013, 04:03:04 PM
I am gonna pray for your father, Lisa.
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Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2013, 04:32:01 PM
Thank you everyone!  You guys are awesome!
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Post by: Mishmaat on July 04, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
Lisa I'm deeply, deeply sorry to hear this. May your father have a full and speedy recovery! I will pray for him daily!
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Post by: mord on July 04, 2013, 04:51:14 PM
Last night when i say shema i davind for you father.I always pray for people when i say shema
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Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on July 04, 2013, 06:36:40 PM
בס''ד

I am so sorry, Lisa.

Refuah shlemah (complete recovery) for your father beezrat Hashem (G-d willing).
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2013, 07:20:25 PM
Hey everyone. 

He's going to see another doctor tomorrow.  I hope that what he has is treatable at his age.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Lisa on July 05, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
Just an update. 

My sisters went with him and my mother to the doctor this morning.  The doctor said he doesn't have to spend the month in the hospital, and that he can get chemotherapy five days a month.  Plus the doctor will also give him some kind of blood boosters.  But still no word on how advanced the cancer is, or whether or not it can be put in remission.  My father will go back on Monday, at which point the doctor will have the complete test results. 

My sisters now seem to accept that what will be will be.  They think this news is good.  But I still feel depressed.  I guess it's because I know that his time is now limited, which I've always taken for granted. 

Also, a friend of my sister was telling me today that the pain never really goes away when you get older...probably because you appreciate their wisdom, and everything they went through.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Zelhar on July 05, 2013, 06:28:17 PM
I think you should try to act normal around your father.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on July 05, 2013, 09:39:16 PM
I think you should try to act normal around your father.

I think Zelhar's right.  I was going to give you some inadvertently not as good advice. Your father, he is here with us, he is living.  Some leukemias have good prognoses, but I mean I would feel JUST AS you do Lisa if I were in your situation.  I do think Zelhar/s advice is the stronger and better advice.
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Post by: cjd on July 06, 2013, 05:45:09 AM
Zelhar is right... Your father may respond well to the treatment and go on for some time to come... In the larger picture there is not much to do but make the most of whatever time G-d allows... Try to keep your fathers outlook positive and try to enjoy each day as it comes... I think the key to sucsess for the best outcome is for the person to just make the illness a secondary issue and go on with life to the best of their ability... Some years back I had a neighbor that lived on the other end of my street  who was suffering from multiple heart conditions and some form of cancer or another... When I first heard the extent of her medical problems I figured her time to be short... This lady went on for years... She had a ramshacked summer house with a large property that she in inherited from her parents and loved to come to it on the weekends... She and her little dog would spend their time going from one yardsale to the other all weekend long... This is what she liked to do and it kept her going.
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Post by: Irish Zionist on July 06, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
I will pray for your father Lisa.
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Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 06, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
Just as an FYI I did tell some friends to lift him up in prayer, Lisa. Any more updates?
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Post by: Lisa on July 06, 2013, 08:22:19 PM
He's going to see the doctor again on Monday.  I'm going to try and be strong for him.  I guess that's all I can do.   I mean, I would be in even worse shape if the doctor said he had to be in the hospital for a month. 

Anyway, you guys are the best.
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Post by: Mishmaat on July 06, 2013, 09:53:26 PM
He's going to see the doctor again on Monday.  I'm going to try and be strong for him.  I guess that's all I can do.   I mean, I would be in even worse shape if the doctor said he had to be in the hospital for a month. 

Anyway, you guys are the best.

Stay strong Lisa.
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 07, 2013, 01:13:15 AM
So what is his mother's name?  (it is customary to pray for healing for someone using the formula so-and-so, son of _____ (mother's name))
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Post by: Sveta on July 07, 2013, 01:50:17 AM
So what is his mother's name?  (it is customary to pray for healing for someone using the formula so-and-so, son of _____ (mother's name))

I knew of a man who once became very sick, and his family also added an extra name to his name. Has anyone heard of this?

Lisa, may your father recover soon and that his treatments be successful!
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Post by: muman613 on July 07, 2013, 03:03:44 AM
I knew of a man who once became very sick, and his family also added an extra name to his name. Has anyone heard of this?

Lisa, may your father recover soon and that his treatments be successful!

Of course I have heard of this...

http://www.jewishanswers.org/?p=859


Adding a hebrew name

What is the basis for adding a new Hebrew name to an existing name for someone who has a serious illness?

“Rav Yitzchak said: Four things tear up the decree against a person, and these are them: Tzedaka (charity); crying out (in prayer); changing one’s name; changing one’s deeds, and some say even changing one’s residence” (Talmud, Rosh Hashanah 16b). As a precedent, the Talmud points out that our Matriarch Sarah was destined to be childless until G-d changed her name (in Genesis 17).

From here, the Rema teaches that it is proper to change the name of a very sick person, to tear up the decree against them (Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh Deah 335:10).

Why does changing one’s name help? The commentaries offer several different reasons. Among them: a drastic act like changing one’s name can influence a person to change many other things about him or herself, thus leading to Teshuva (repentance). Further, changing one’s name changes a person’s mazal, the flow of spiritual energy to that person.

Generally, changing someone’s name is only advised for a very sick person. A Torah sage should be consulted (indeed, a sage should already have been consulted for guidance long before things reached this level). There is a formula for how exactly to go about the name change, found in more detailed Siddurim (prayer books). It involves gathering ten men to recite Tehilim (Psalms) and saying a prayer for the sick person using his or her new name. The new name is usually an extra name added before the old name (i.e. “Yosef” may become “Chaim Yosef”). It is often a name suited to bring extra blessing (like Chaim [meaning “living”], Raphael [“G-d heals him”], Baruch [“blessed”]).
Title: Re: Please Pray For My Father
Post by: Lisa on July 07, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
Eliahu Ben Malka.