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Title: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on July 22, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
Should I purchase European ( German) , Demostic or Japanese? I want some thing between $25 - $30 k . I am asking because I do not want to contribute any money to the "evil doers", that  secretly plotting against America, or the Jewish people .
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 12:29:40 PM
i would geta car with teh best gas mileage.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Ehud on July 22, 2007, 12:39:32 PM
If I were you I would get a hybrid.  That's what I would buy if I was to buy a car right now.  Maybe a Toyota Prius?  The Japanese aren't doing anything against the Jewish people and some of their cars are actually manufactured in the U.S.  Even though buying U.S. is the best way to support American workers, buying a car that has low gas milage is one of the most traitorous things you can do.  You're basically funding America's destruction.  If you could find a fuel efficient car made in the U.S. like a Focus Hybrid, that would be great as well.

I would never buy from a German car company, NEVER.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 01:33:59 PM
If I were you I would get a hybrid.  That's what I would buy if I was to buy a car right now.  Maybe a Toyota Prius?  The Japanese aren't doing anything against the Jewish people and some of their cars are actually manufactured in the U.S.  Even though buying U.S. is the best way to support American workers, buying a car that has low gas milage is one of the most traitorous things you can do.  You're basically funding America's destruction.  If you could find a fuel efficient car made in the U.S. like a Focus Hybrid, that would be great as well.

I would never buy from a German car company, NEVER.

Hybrids are garbage.  Use somethign with the best gas mileage...A BMW has better gas mileage than a lot of so-called Hybrid.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Ehud on July 22, 2007, 01:39:52 PM
Which BMW model has something better than 48 mpg in the city and 45 mpg on the highway?  And please don't give me the model of a motorcycle.   :laugh:

Hybrids have the best gas mileage available.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: HiWarp on July 22, 2007, 02:07:30 PM
Which BMW model has something better than 48 mpg in the city and 45 mpg on the highway?  And please don't give me the model of a motorcycle.   :laugh:

Hybrids have the best gas mileage available.

Not to mention, that in NY anyway, you can get a Clean Vehicle Pass and drive in the HOV lane with only one passenger.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
Which BMW model has something better than 48 mpg in the city and 45 mpg on the highway?  And please don't give me the model of a motorcycle.   :laugh:

Hybrids have the best gas mileage available.

Dude, get what you want..I'm just saying, the jury isn't out yet on these so called Hybrids..don't know how safe they are and if they are truely "gas efficient."  Try out the Prius.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Ehud on July 22, 2007, 03:07:04 PM
They were certified by the EPA to have great mileage, and in the National Highway traffic safety administration tests the Prius got great crash test ratings.  I don't know what you mean by the jury being out, what have you heard about Hybrid vehicles that causes you to doubt them?
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 05:45:15 PM
Marino, I'm an ex used car salesman and take it from me there are only 3 makes to even look at: TOYOTA, HONDA, or SUBARU..........no exceptions.

For reliability , longevity, re-sale and quality you just can't do better.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on July 22, 2007, 05:48:50 PM
I'd say for you to get a car you like and you want.  For imports Mazda are good cars and the best bang for the money in my opinion like BMW or Mercedes.  I happen to be a fan of Jags but that's me.... ;)  Then again, if you wish to do what my parents did and be a patriot, go out and get yourself a Saturn, Chrysler or GM product....they aren't as bad as people make them out to be especially most of them now are partnered up with the Germans and the Brits like Chrysler and Ford (May he rot in Hell....)   :)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on July 22, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
I'm an ex used car salesman
Ha!  I knew it.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 06:43:34 PM
I'm an ex used car salesman
Ha!  I knew it.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Lisa on July 22, 2007, 06:53:19 PM
I once went looking for a car, and checked out the Saturns.  Their salespeople are very professional and are not pushy at all.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: mord on July 22, 2007, 06:55:41 PM
Saturns are very good
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 06:58:01 PM
They were certified by the EPA to have great mileage, and in the National Highway traffic safety administration tests the Prius got great crash test ratings.  I don't know what you mean by the jury being out, what have you heard about Hybrid vehicles that causes you to doubt them?

The ones with teh best mileage are 4 cylinder cars..weak and hardly any power.  I'm a 4 wheel drive kind of guy and the 4 wheel drive hybrids' gas mileage is just as good as the BMW
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 06:59:35 PM
I once went looking for a car, and checked out the Saturns.  Their salespeople are very professional and are not pushy at all.

Franchise dealer sales staff ( that's new car yards) are pretty good whether it's new or used cars you're looking at. It's the independent used car yards that have the pushy types. In the used car business, you're either pushy and crooked or broke. I won't return to the industry because it's impossible to keep the honest dealing mitzva in that trade.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 07:00:22 PM
I like Toyota the best. My dad bought one in 1992 and in 2002. Japanese cars are the best. European cars are crummy. They are too small like the Italian and French cars in Israel. But German cars are bigger but are Nazi. Unfortunately, Israel buys buses from Germany. Japanese cars in Israel seem to be smaller than their counterpart in America. Israel doesn't make its own cars but used to make one.



what are you talking about?  Japanese cars don't last..and European cars last a looong time!  
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 07:06:35 PM
I like Toyota the best. My dad bought one in 1992 and in 2002. Japanese cars are the best. European cars are crummy. They are too small like the Italian and French cars in Israel. But German cars are bigger but are Nazi. Unfortunately, Israel buys buses from Germany. Japanese cars in Israel seem to be smaller than their counterpart in America. Israel doesn't make its own cars but used to make one.



what are you talking about?  Japanese cars don't last..and European cars last a looong time!  

Danny, I had thousands of trades pass through my hands. Apart from Mercedes and BMW, the only cars that are viable with 100,000 miles on the clock are Japanese. Honda were the best as I've seen heaps of them with over 200,000 miles and they still drove like new. That sort of quallity and longevity at their low sticker $ is impossible to beat.

RE: Mecedes and BMW......they're not what they used to be anymore, either.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on July 22, 2007, 07:13:40 PM
Test-drove a Lexus recently.

Nice car.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on July 22, 2007, 07:19:21 PM
Japanese cars don't last!  

Sure they do.  My 1997 Mitsubishi has 130,000 miles on it and I've done nothing to it but change the oil, tires and brakes.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: takebackourtemple on July 22, 2007, 08:23:09 PM
   I would make safety the number one priority. It appears that BMW vehicles are either all wheel drive(which means poor fuel economy) or rear wheel drive which means they handle horribly in rain and snow. I'm sure amazed with how expensive the BMWs are.
   Too bad we can't buy Israeli cars. If Israel manufactured them, they would be the best on the road.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on July 22, 2007, 08:33:30 PM
   I would make safety the number one priority. It appears that BMW vehicles are either all wheel drive(which means poor fuel economy) or rear wheel drive which means they handle horribly in rain and snow. I'm sure amazed with how expensive the BMWs are.
   Too bad we can't buy Israeli cars. If Israel manufactured them, they would be the best on the road.
They'd probably be Israeli (Jewish) owned and assembled by the Arab/Muslim Savages similar as the situation in Detroit.... ;)

A smile for your car shopping:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5619878548787879329&q=Jeremy+Clarkson&total=1323&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

or:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3xoRQd0dLk
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 08:45:39 PM
If Israel could buy the rights to manufacture these, it would be an excellent car. I didn't know these classic 70s Peugeots were still made in Africa.

Wherever you live in Kenya the Peugeot 504 is part of the landscape. It is seen everywhere because it can go anywhere. Peugeot 504 owners love the car for its high ground clearance and its ability to plough through conditions normally reserved for 4WD. They love the 504 for its rugged, no-nonsense construction, its utter reliability and the ease with which it can be serviced and repaired. They admire its classic design and shape and wouldn’t change the 504 for anything else on the road.
The 504 is many different cars in one; it’s a workhorse, a family car, a farm machine, a leisure car, a status symbol. Over the years the 504 has earned a special place in the hearts of Kenyans: “King of the African road” with its classic shape and its reputation for reliability, durability and ruggedness. The Peugeot 504 is available as in saloon, estate and pick up versions


Engine capacity: 1800 cc
 Manual gearbox: 5-speed
 
Electronic car alarm Heavy duty suspension

Radio/cassette player
 Large fuel tank
 


 
Load capacity of 1.3 tons on the pick up

 
 (http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i942181_Peugeot504Break1978.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.com)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 09:10:35 PM
I like Toyota the best. My dad bought one in 1992 and in 2002. Japanese cars are the best. European cars are crummy. They are too small like the Italian and French cars in Israel. But German cars are bigger but are Nazi. Unfortunately, Israel buys buses from Germany. Japanese cars in Israel seem to be smaller than their counterpart in America. Israel doesn't make its own cars but used to make one.



what are you talking about?  Japanese cars don't last..and European cars last a looong time!  

Danny, I had thousands of trades pass through my hands. Apart from Mercedes and BMW, the only cars that are viable with 100,000 miles on the clock are Japanese. Honda were the best as I've seen heaps of them with over 200,000 miles and they still drove like new. That sort of quallity and longevity at their low sticker $ is impossible to beat.

RE: Mecedes and BMW......they're not what they used to be anymore, either.

I'll take your word for it :)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 22, 2007, 09:12:10 PM
Japanese cars don't last!  

Sure they do.  My 1997 Mitsubishi has 130,000 miles on it and I've done nothing to it but change the oil, tires and brakes.

I'm driving a Ford explorer from 1996 with 158,000 miles on it!!! I wonder how much more it can go.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 09:20:17 PM
Japanese cars don't last!  

Sure they do.  My 1997 Mitsubishi has 130,000 miles on it and I've done nothing to it but change the oil, tires and brakes.

I'm driving a Ford explorer from 1996 with 158,000 miles on it!!! I wonder how much more it can go.

It's not the core engineering that bothers me with the local stuff. It's the assembly quality and electrical systems that drive you insane. Jap stuff just seems to go forever with book servive only. You're never at the dealer / shop every 10 weeks with some niggly little problem that seems to be the case with non-Jap stuff these days. Local stuff was fine in the 50s & 60s when they were uncomplicated, but as soon as we started using computers, injection etc they got well behind the Japs.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: cjd on July 22, 2007, 09:23:51 PM
I agree the Jap cars are not all they are cracked up to be. I have a 98 Taurus with 220,000 and have never changed a part on it except for oil change, brakes and one set of tires. The car still looks and runs like it has 20,000 miles on it. I would like to see the imports make that sort of mileage without major repairs. I also get 30 mph highway and not much less around the town. Ford makes great cars.   
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 22, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
I agree the Jap cars are not all they are cracked up to be. I have a 98 Taurus with 220,000 and have never changed a part on it except for oil change, brakes and one set of tires. The car still looks and runs like it has 20,000 miles on it. I would like to see the imports make that sort of mileage without major repairs. I also get 30 mph highway and not much less around the town. Ford makes great cars.   

You've done well with that one. I'm speaking in general terms, though. If you compare 10,000 examples of each different make, a clearer picture emerges. Sometimes you don't have much choice, eg: taxi operators. Or if you tow double horse floats or Airstreams,  until recently an American SUV/ Truck was the only choice.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on July 22, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
Well I owned a Honda and a Ford, and I hate to admit it, but with the Ford there was constant problems,  the only thing needed with the Honda was to make sure no deposits got in the engines.  But you know what, judging how most cars are built today it is a crap shoot.  Are you planning to buy or lease?
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 22, 2007, 09:53:28 PM
Jap cars are the best value.

They retain their value better than American cars, and if you check out reliability and customer satisfaction ratings, Toyota and Honda lead the way.

Yacov made a good point about who is assembling American cars. Schvartzas and Mooozies. While it is true that robotics dominate assembly lines these days, fit and finish on Jap cars are generally better than American vehicles. Keep in mind though that many Jap cars are assembled in America. To ensure that you get a Jap brand vehicle assembled by human beings, simply check the VIN number on the car you're contemplating buying. If the VIN number starts with a '1' it was assembled in the USA, if it starts with a 'J' it was built in Japan.

Japanese quality control is excellent, even the shroogs working the assembly line can't screw up a well engineered car when monitored properly.

As I mentioned earlier, one important factor in buying a vehicle is giving consideration to what it's resale value will be when you decide to get something newer. Japanese vehicles definitely retain their value better than their American counterparts.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on July 22, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
American cars are crap.  They're not what they used to be and neither is this country.

We're FINISHED!
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 22, 2007, 11:53:16 PM
Hondas and Acuras are no better than American cars. That is just BS that the self hating moozy media has told us. They always want to make it seem that foreign things are always better. Cadillacs, Hummers and Lincolns are all great cars and can hold their own with all the foreign stuff.  I have had probs with jap stuff and domestic cars have been rock solid for me.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: The Architect on July 22, 2007, 11:58:04 PM
I recently bought a 2007 Honda Civic SI and am extremely pleased.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 23, 2007, 12:01:27 AM
Hehe that is funny architect, I have a 2006 Acura Rsx type S that I lease for a very low monthly payment. That car is almost the same as yours. Honda service dept suck and they are far more arrogant than the gm ones.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 23, 2007, 12:02:38 AM
My parents got a insane deal on it and they pay for it. I am a big car guy but they pay so it's a good situation.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: The Architect on July 23, 2007, 12:07:02 AM
Hehe that is funny architect, I have a 2006 Acura Rsx type S that I lease for a very low monthly payment. That car is almost the same as yours. Honda service dept suck and they are far more arrogant than the gm ones.

Yes very similar, its pretty much filling that niche since they are phasing out the rsx.  You should try some other dealerships until you find one that is pleased to have you as a customer.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 23, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
I hear the suggestion but I can't go driving far away from myhome for service. I go to the one closest to me but my next car will be American.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 23, 2007, 12:11:59 AM
I like the jeep wrangler rubicon and now that it is no longer nazi and has been purchased entirely by an  American company, I can buy it.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on July 23, 2007, 12:44:48 AM
Hondas and Acuras are no better than American cars. That is just BS that the self hating moozy media has told us. They always want to make it seem that foreign things are always better. Cadillacs, Hummers and Lincolns are all great cars and can hold their own with all the foreign stuff.  I have had probs with jap stuff and domestic cars have been rock solid for me.

What about Toyota and Nissan?

Your BS doesn't phase me.

Cadillac, Hummer and Lincoln are all HIGH-END domestic cars.  If they measure up to average Japanese cars, my point is proven.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Ehud on July 23, 2007, 12:45:08 AM
Japanese cars don't last! 

Sure they do.  My 1997 Mitsubishi has 130,000 miles on it and I've done nothing to it but change the oil, tires and brakes.

I'm driving a Ford explorer from 1996 with 158,000 miles on it!!! I wonder how much more it can go.

I still drive my 1996 Ford Explorer with 120,000 miles on it.  I've never had a problem with it other than having to change the fuses and the interior doorhandles.  I haven't had any engine related problems whatsoever.  I used to give it a pounding too off-roading and I've even been in an accident in Tahoe where my car skidded out and did a 180 and ended up perched at the top of a 4 foot snow bank.  I was pulled out by a guy with a winch and I drove away with the car still driving great!  It's a beast.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 23, 2007, 07:23:21 AM
Isn't BMW made by NAZIs?
Bavarian Motor Works was built by Karl Rapp,  Rapp-Motorenwerke in a former bicycle factory near Munich.
I know Toyota is made in Newark, NJ and some in Canada.
American cars are made in Mexico.
VW (Virtually Worthless) was created by Hitler.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 23, 2007, 07:29:41 AM
Isn't BMW made by NAZIs?
Bavarian Motor Works was built by Karl Rapp,  Rapp-Motorenwerke in a former bicycle factory near Munich.
I know Toyota is made in Newark, NJ and some in Canada.
American cars are made in Mexico.
VW (Virtually Worthless) was created by Hitler.


With the volkswagen, the stupid germans forgot to put the engines in them. They had to stick them in the trunk as they were rolling off the assembly line.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on July 23, 2007, 08:08:47 AM
I don't know.  Asian cars seem to have kept the same image and same quality while American Cars, in most cases have improved over the last few years especially considering their purchase price.  I've heard that Volkswagen, Volvo and even Mercedes have gone down in quality.  I've read that the Volkswagens for America are produced in Mexico now which would explain the drop in quality. 

I've never owned an Asian car but I had a Jeep Charokee which had 150k on it when it was sold with the company and 5 years later I saw it still beating about.  When I was young I had one of those Eagle Talons and put 200 on it before selling it to a kid that wanted to totally rebuild it for those street racing.  Had a Porsche and put about 50k on it, a very solid car.  I had a volkswagen Golf CL with about 140k before giving it to my sister who drove it for another 3 years before trading it in on a new Mazda 6 sport wagon.

I don't mind American cars.  Actually, I like a European car for summer (Porsche) and American for winter... ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Maccabi on July 23, 2007, 08:15:16 AM
don't ever buy nazi faggot troll mobiles. (Mercedes, BMW, VW)

Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Ehud on July 23, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
don't ever buy nazi faggot troll mobiles. (Mercedes, BMW, VW)



LOL, agreed.  It's sick seeing all these Israelis drive around in Mercedes and BMWs, little Nazi-mobiles.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on July 23, 2007, 09:14:02 AM
don't ever buy nazi faggot troll mobiles. (Mercedes, BMW, VW)



LOL, agreed.  It's sick seeing all these Israelis drive around in Mercedes and BMWs, little Nazi-mobiles.

The Jew in the mercedes has become a stereotype in the western world. I could never work out why Jews drove benzs when I was a kid and I still can't.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Maccabi on July 23, 2007, 09:35:35 AM
when Chaim takes over Israel will create the best cars in the world and they won't require oil.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on July 23, 2007, 10:51:20 AM
don't ever buy nazi faggot troll mobiles. (Mercedes, BMW, VW)
True, but one must also add Ford, Jaguar, Auston Martin and too gasoline in general since to this day vastly controlled by the Rockefeller entities who, like Ford, aided both the Nazi's, Communists, Homosexual Parades in Jerusalem, La Rassa etc. 

Sorry, I love oil.  I dispise Islam, Socialism/Communism and their elitists cohorts.  If one throws a rock through your window, one doesn't blame the rock but the thrower.  Therefore descimate Islam, Communism (as McCarthy, Goldwater and MacArthur wished) and publically execute their elitist CFR (and like) supporting "globalist" supporters.  There are many good and needed products and bi-products from the petrolium industry.  My two cents, in agreement with Massah on this specific topic.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on July 23, 2007, 11:52:08 AM
Newman:  "...The Jew in the mercedes has become a stereotype in the western world. I could never work out why Jews drove benzs when I was a kid and I still can't..."

In my humble opinion, I believe that the stereotype "Jew driving a Mercedes" is a pathological mental disorder; the result of the Jew in Exile wanting to so badly be accepted by the upper tier of gentile society...a truly pathetic attempt to both flaunt one's financial success, while at the same time hoping that a callous disregard for the suffering of one's fellow Jews who died as slave laborers for Nazi supporting industries such as Daimler-Benz, BMW, Siemens, etc.. will somehow ingratiate themself with the "Country Club Set" (who, nevertheless continue to despise and shun the Jew, regardless of Jewish financial or professional achievements).
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: takebackourtemple on July 26, 2007, 09:00:44 PM
don't ever buy nazi faggot troll mobiles. (Mercedes, BMW, VW)

   The fact that most cars in Israel are Mercedes(not the luxury ones that you find in the us) shows a problem with the mentality in Israel.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on August 03, 2007, 09:01:21 AM
Thanks a lot I appreciate your advice...
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Vito on August 03, 2007, 11:29:23 AM
Well, I drive a Geo Metro (3cyl 1.0L), I average close to 50 mpg, and payed $1,700 for it :D I don't know why GM won't build them anymore, they would sell like hotcakes now. 5 years ago you couldn't give that car away for free, not they're selling like hotcakes in the private market.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 04, 2007, 09:26:53 PM
   That's because Saturn salesmen don't work off of commission. One thing to know about Saturn is that the price of the car is non-negotiable but the entire purchase is negotiable. With that, you can negotiate extras for the dealer to throw in such as free loaner cars when they need servicing and major services such as the 30k and 50k services.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 08, 2007, 08:34:55 AM
Marino, I think Takebackourtemple and Lisa are right.  I just bought a Saab 9.3 with the sports package.  I have spoken to many people and all said nothing but praise especially in the used car market.  The car sells for about $55-60k new (Canada prices) but in 2 years the resale is half with usually about 30-40k miles on them which is nothing.  My friend David said they are diamonds and very under rated.  For example, his Saab has over 310k miles on it and all he does is change the oil and same clutch with very minor servicing. 

My insurance broker said the same.  She too gave me an additional 5% off because the Saabs won some international prize for top safety ratings, from 2003-2007.  I believe Volvo is similar because she said that they too offer the 5% off as well.  These are the only two cars in that class that have such a rating which affects ones insurance.  Also, now that it is American owned and European made you get the quality of the Euopeans while still supporting "American Made/Owned".

http://www.roadandtravel.com/roadtests/buyersguides/2006buyersguide/entrylevelluxury/saab9.3.htm
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Daniel on September 08, 2007, 12:31:48 PM
Which BMW model has something better than 48 mpg in the city and 45 mpg on the highway?  And please don't give me the model of a motorcycle.   :laugh:

Hybrids have the best gas mileage available.

Dude, get what you want..I'm just saying, the jury isn't out yet on these so called Hybrids..don't know how safe they are and if they are truely "gas efficient."  Try out the Prius.

I think you mean the jury is "still" out, right? :)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 04:10:37 PM

Sorry, I love oil.  I dispise Islam, Socialism/Communism and their elitists cohorts.  If one throws a rock through your window, one doesn't blame the rock but the thrower.  Therefore descimate Islam, Communism (as McCarthy, Goldwater and MacArthur wished) and publically execute their elitist CFR (and like) supporting "globalist" supporters.  There are many good and needed products and bi-products from the petrolium industry.  My two cents, in agreement with Massah on this specific topic.

Spot-on, Marzutra.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Daniel on September 08, 2007, 04:58:26 PM
Hondas and Acuras are no better than American cars. That is just BS that the self hating moozy media has told us. They always want to make it seem that foreign things are always better. Cadillacs, Hummers and Lincolns are all great cars and can hold their own with all the foreign stuff.  I have had probs with jap stuff and domestic cars have been rock solid for me.

Media? I don't know about that. I just know from my own personal experiences as well as my parents' and friends' experiences as well.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Daniel on September 08, 2007, 05:02:47 PM
Marino, I'm an ex used car salesman and take it from me there are only 3 makes to even look at: TOYOTA, HONDA, or SUBARU..........no exceptions.

For reliability , longevity, re-sale and quality you just can't do better.

That explains a lot!

So did you have to install the hydraulics pumps every time you sold a car to a schvartze? ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Daniel on September 08, 2007, 05:06:57 PM
I like Toyota the best. My dad bought one in 1992 and in 2002. Japanese cars are the best. European cars are crummy. They are too small like the Italian and French cars in Israel. But German cars are bigger but are Nazi. Unfortunately, Israel buys buses from Germany. Japanese cars in Israel seem to be smaller than their counterpart in America. Israel doesn't make its own cars but used to make one.



what are you talking about?  Japanese cars don't last..and European cars last a looong time!  

For myself and my folks, it has been the other way around. When I was a kid, they had two Volkswagon Rabbits (Yes, I know, please forgive them) which constantly were constantly having problems. Then they got two Mazdas which lasted a really loooong time. Now, my mom has a Suburu Outback and my father has a Honda Element and I just bought a Honda Civic. The Japenese cars seem to be the most reliable. As long as you keep chaging the oil every three months, the cars will virtually last forever.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Daniel on September 08, 2007, 05:22:09 PM
   I would make safety the number one priority. It appears that BMW vehicles are either all wheel drive(which means poor fuel economy) or rear wheel drive which means they handle horribly in rain and snow. I'm sure amazed with how expensive the BMWs are.
   Too bad we can't buy Israeli cars. If Israel manufactured them, they would be the best on the road.
They'd probably be Israeli (Jewish) owned and assembled by the Arab/Muslim Savages similar as the situation in Detroit.... ;)

A smile for your car shopping:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5619878548787879329&q=Jeremy+Clarkson&total=1323&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

or:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3xoRQd0dLk

OMG! I just cracked up laughing so hard! Thanks so much! This really made my day!

This guy is hysterical! It's like [censored] for cars, only in good taste! :) I'll have to watch all his videos now :)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 08, 2007, 05:28:52 PM
I forgot to mention that the Saab 9.3Arc gets between 40-45mpg which is very reasonable.  Thanks Scriabin for your seconding my opinion... ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on September 08, 2007, 06:21:43 PM
I'm thinking about the Infiniti G35 Coupe... I found one used for a reasonable amount of  money,  right in my neighborhood!
The place is called Major World on Northern Blvd.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 06:33:55 PM
I'm thinking about the Infiniti G35 Coupe... I found one used for a reasonable amount of  money,  right in my neighborhood!
The place is called Major World on Northern Blvd.

Yeah, that's a nice car.

The 08' model has 330 horsepower and the 07' model has 306.  ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on September 08, 2007, 08:01:15 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 08, 2007, 10:32:32 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 10:34:07 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

English engineering is bad.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 10:39:33 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

A G35 starts at $31,000.00 USD.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 10:39:59 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

English engineering is bad.

Their electrical systems are even worse.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

English engineering is bad.

Their electrical systems are even worse.

Yeah.  Fords (all american cars for that matter) aren't what they used to be.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on September 08, 2007, 10:45:56 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

English engineering is bad.

Their electrical systems are even worse.

Yeah.  Fords (all american cars for that matter) aren't what they used to be.

All British auto electrical systems used to be made by the Lucas company. Joe Lucas used to be called 'the prince of darkness'.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: DownwithIslam on September 08, 2007, 11:42:50 PM
Hehe, I would rather buy a slightly used car and use the saved money to put an aftermarket stereo system in but thats just me. I need to good stereo.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 08, 2007, 11:47:41 PM
Hehe, I would rather buy a slightly used car and use the saved money to put an aftermarket stereo system in but thats just me. I need to good stereo.

A wonderful stereo, of course...but even more important than that, in my opinion is a quiet ride.  Too many cars have excessive road noise.  The quiet cockpit is where its at.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on September 08, 2007, 11:59:50 PM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

A G35 starts at $31,000.00 USD.

I'm getting it for around  $23,000 from 2005, it's a great deal I think!
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 09, 2007, 12:08:00 AM
I would take a mustang anyday over a g35. Get a loaded up mustang if you want a two door car like that.
Infinity is good if you like the Asian stuff.  I'd never buy a ford. At least with a Jaguar you get a car...lol  By the way, is not the price of a G35 comparable to a used XK8?

A G35 starts at $31,000.00 USD.

I'm getting it for around  $23,000 from 2005, it's a great deal I think!

How many miles?

Is it a coupe or a sedan?
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on September 09, 2007, 12:13:14 AM
27K miles - coupe - white on beige interior. It's sort of a good deal so I'm must act quickly or so I was told...
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2007, 01:49:18 AM
Nice choice... I just hope you can afford the insurance rates! ;D , I'm paying a whole lot for having a sports coupe in NYC.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 09, 2007, 09:26:56 AM
You can compare prices on AutoTrader or DupontRegistry.Com.  Either way, I think you'll be in good hands.  If you are younger I'd say the Infinity would be a good choice.  If you are between 30-45 I'd say the Jaguar or even a used Mercedes 500 coup... ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: TheStore on September 09, 2007, 10:26:49 AM
I think Saturns are good, inexpensive cars....Never German, as BMW and Voltwagon among other built cars for the Nazi war effort.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 09, 2007, 07:43:27 PM
You're right.  Scratch the Mercedes and for that matter the Jag.  The Brits never did any favors for us keeping Zion closed and illegally creating the Judenrein "Hashemite tin pot "King"dom of Jordan"...well perhaps the Rothschilds benefitted...lol
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: New Yorker on September 09, 2007, 09:50:58 PM


Now don't forget, you can us him down on the price!  ;D

Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Bodhi on September 15, 2007, 06:18:08 PM
  HONDA.

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2007, 08:29:58 PM
Honda makes the best cars on the planet. ;D
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on September 19, 2007, 02:34:58 AM
I would never buy from a German car company, NEVER.
I too never guy German.
I am a Toyota woman myself. My car is a Yaris, but it is a VERY girlie car according to all the men I know.  I would LOVE to have a hybrid, and preferrably a car in the future that does not use any terror-gas at all!

Keep the Yaris for now. The hybrid is twice the price but only a bit more economical. At 12k miles / year it would take over a decade to make up the price difference.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Vito on September 19, 2007, 11:05:39 AM
Find a Geo Metro! They're not new, but my 3cyl 1.0 bad boy can get over 50 mpg..... and I didn't pay $25K for it ;)
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 19, 2007, 11:10:44 AM
Bentley makes nice cars.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: raiseyourfist on September 19, 2007, 11:31:13 AM
It really depends how much your willing to spend...

I am also on the lookout for a car preferably a Mitsubishi Magna as they are great cars used...
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: White Israelite on September 19, 2007, 01:02:33 PM
I have a Mitsubishi Eclipse 2000 GT, I paid 15,000 for it at the time. Take into account i'm a young guy and just need it to get to work. It's a Jap car but it is reliable. My mother has a Toyota van and it's had very little problems. My grandpa had a Lincoln, that was a nice car.

I would like to have a Mercedes Benz in the future, I'll give respect to quality and technology. Effectively speaking, if we boycotted every company involved with the Nazis, there would really be nothing left for us to purchase. IBM was involved with the Nazis and Ford was also involved with the Nazis, he even gave a free copy of the protocols of zion with each FORD purchased.

Personally I find mercedes benz to be classy cars. Who cares where it's made as long as it gets you from point A to point B. My friend has a VW however and he has had a lot of problems with it.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: Manch on September 19, 2007, 03:45:18 PM
If you are a young person, get like a E46 type 3 series BMW, M3 if you can afford it, manual transmission. It will blow you away. Forget about hybrid and other nonsense, live the life.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: newman on September 19, 2007, 10:36:55 PM
Bentley makes nice cars.

If you had more money than you knew what to do with, a Bently Turbo in Brooklands Green would be the ultimate indulgence.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MARINO on September 23, 2007, 09:24:16 PM
I actually decided not to buy the Infiniti G35 coupe, and instead I am buying a 2004 Acura TL. The car has leather, sunroof,voice activated navigation, 6 disc changer, bluetooth, as well as many other features. Plus being that I live in North Jersey it tends to snow more up here, and having a rear wheel drive car is not a great idea.
Title: Re: In the Market for a new car.
Post by: MarZutra on September 23, 2007, 11:53:59 PM
Dude before you do so, check out the Saab 9.3 Arc or Aero.  You will be very impressed especially ones with the sport package.  I just bought one and it is amazing.  It has EVERY option.  250bhp, 17" rims, full leather.........At least check it out and compare.  I'm sure you, like me, will find no comparison...