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Title: The Femininization of the American Boy : Tri-fecta on gender identity
Post by: muman613 on August 30, 2013, 03:48:47 AM
I think some of you will find this video interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfEdknxZr8s
Title: Re: The Femininization of the American Boy : Tri-fecta on gender identity
Post by: Rubystars on August 30, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
That video was funny, and I do think that the feminist they were arguing against was wrong, but I'm not sure how valid their counterargument was either. They seemed to be implying that masculinity means being nasty to each other rather than being strong and confident.
Title: Re: The Femininization of the American Boy : Tri-fecta on gender identity
Post by: muman613 on August 30, 2013, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rubystars on August 30, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
That video was funny, and I do think that the feminist they were arguing against was wrong, but I'm not sure how valid their counterargument was either. They seemed to be implying that masculinity means being nasty to each other rather than being strong and confident.

Hi Rubystars,

As a man I understood what they were trying to say. When I was a boy I went through those 'initiation rituals' which they talk about, being tough with our peers, calling names, taking the tough talk of our friends, and playing tackle football where it is possible to really get hit hard.

I am a child of the 60s-70s and most of my boyhood memories are of the 70s. I was Bar Mitzvahed in 1978 (13 y/o) and in those days we didn't have this push to feminize the boys. We played with real toy guns which occasionally were capable of shooting actual projectiles. We did not wear helmets when riding bicycles. Sometimes we got hurt but we got up and continued despite our lumps and bumps.

This is what I believe the hosts of the Tri-fecta I posted was trying to express. That it is a part of a boys experience to put up with, and dish out at times, the toughness and strength which is required. The alternative is girly-man...

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You will have to pry my toy gun from my cold dead hands!

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Title: Re: The Femininization of the American Boy : Tri-fecta on gender identity
Post by: Rubystars on August 31, 2013, 12:08:22 PM
Great points Muman. I understand better now.