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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Super Mentalita on September 02, 2013, 04:05:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLeHk3-OIxw
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I really don't know about this so-called order. It appears to be a terrorist group and neo-nazi. More research should be done before JTF endorses it's message.
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This is the 'organization' which the, according to my continued belief, lunatic Anders Brevik. I suggest Chaim be consulted as to whether their message is appropriate for the forum.
I condone the action of Chaim Ben Pesach because the action he took did not cost the lives of the victims, but rather brought to the attention of the community the importance of freeing Jews in the USSR. I also excuse any of the offenses commited by JDL because I know in my gut that they had the greatest intentions. But I still do not condone the actions of this man Brevik.
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? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8671075/Violent-videos-of-Oslo-killers-mentor.html
From the beginning I thought you were Marbus... I hope not. They say this Gregor is a Nazi, what do you have to say about that? What is he a Nazi of?
Also, true Templars don't have the same beliefs they do...
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This is the 'organization' which the, according to my continued belief, lunatic Anders Brevik. I suggest Chaim be consulted as to whether their message is appropriate for the forum.
I condone the action of Chaim Ben Pesach because the action he took did not cost the lives of the victims, but rather brought to the attention of the community the importance of freeing Jews in the USSR. I also excuse any of the offenses commited by JDL because I know in my gut that they had the greatest intentions. But I still do not condone the actions of this man Brevik.
Brevik claimed this, but the Templar leader who is in exile in Malta denies it vehemently, on many occasions. He has presented some pretty elaborate conspiracy theories to explain it, but I do not know the facts firsthand, and can not say with certainty one way or another.
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I am against Islam and support all who speak against it. But as I do not want to be involved with possible illegal activity I will clearly say that I am against any violence or suggestion of violence. I do believe that there is a time and a place for everything, and even things which are ugly. But I am very wary of extending my support for organizations which I do not know, and I do not know the extent of their involvement with possible illegal activity.
We all know that the Internet is not private. And it is possible for agencies to use information gathered from the internet in order to prosecute. This is why I really would like assurances, and review by Chaim, of this...
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I am against Islam and support all who speak against it. But as I do not want to be involved with possible illegal activity I will clearly say that I am against any violence or suggestion of violence. I do believe that there is a time and a place for everything, and even things which are ugly. But I am very wary of extending my support for organizations which I do not know, and I do not know the extent of their involvement with possible illegal activity.
We all know that the Internet is not private. And it is possible for agencies to use information gathered from the internet in order to prosecute. This is why I really would like assurances, and review by Chaim, of this...
The Order does not claim to have affiliation with Breivik. I recall the leader saying something along the lines of "if he had killed muslim extremists [he's pretty much a leftist], then I could say he might have been influenced by me".
I don't actually see any calls to kill muslims by the order, but that would certainly be the last thing to make me distrust them. I think they're leftists, bottom line.
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I would also like to point out, The Templars and The Knights Hospitaller(Knights of Malta), Teutonic Knights didn't exactly get along and were not friends. And during the Crusades, the Templars actually fought against other groups of Knights.
And during the Hussite wars, the Hussites(Templars) handed the others their butts! In Scotland the Templars handed England their butt... Ect.
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I would also like to point out, The Templars and The Knights Hospitaller(Knights of Malta), Teutonic Knights didn't exactly get along and were not friends. And during the Crusades, the Templars actually fought against other groups of Knights.
And during the Hussite wars, the Hussites(Templars) handed the others their butts! In Scotland the Templars handed England their butt... Ect.
I assume they did not think much of the Jewish people in the land. These are the true 'replacement theology' practitioners, in my opinion.
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I assume they did not think much of the Jewish people in the land. These are the true 'replacement theology' practitioners, in my opinion.
Which group are you talking about?
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Which group are you talking about?
I don't think the Templars of history had much compassion for Jews. From what I recently read they were the ones responsible for building the churches on top of the mosques which the muslims had built on the Temple Mount. I doubt these groups would allow Jews to pray at the Kotel or even allow them to live in Jerusalem.
Regarding the group which calls itself the Templars today, I don't know much about them. But I throw it out as a question, what if anything did this Brevik guy write about Jews? What does the Order 777 think about Jews? I don't know but I would guess that it is not too good, but I may be wrong.
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I really don't know about this so-called order. It appears to be a terrorist group and neo-nazi. More research should be done before JTF endorses it's message.
Neo Nazi!?!?!?!?!?! Where the hell are you talking about??? You've been reading far left magazines?
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? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8671075/Violent-videos-of-Oslo-killers-mentor.html
From the beginning I thought you were Marbus... I hope not. They say this Gregor is a Nazi, what do you have to say about that? What is he a Nazi of?
Also, true Templars don't have the same beliefs they do...
He is NOT a Nazi. He is well connected with Israel and the Jewish people. He is even tattooed a david star...
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I would also like to point out, The Templars and The Knights Hospitaller(Knights of Malta), Teutonic Knights didn't exactly get along and were not friends. And during the Crusades, the Templars actually fought against other groups of Knights.
And during the Hussite wars, the Hussites(Templars) handed the others their butts! In Scotland the Templars handed England their butt... Ect.
But I believe we are friends now. We have to work together. Unity is the key.
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I don't think the Templars of history had much compassion for Jews. From what I recently read they were the ones responsible for building the churches on top of the mosques which the muslims had built on the Temple Mount. I doubt these groups would allow Jews to pray at the Kotel or even allow them to live in Jerusalem.
Regarding the group which calls itself the Templars today, I don't know much about them. But I throw it out as a question, what if anything did this Brevik guy write about Jews? What does the Order 777 think about Jews? I don't know but I would guess that it is not too good, but I may be wrong.
You are wrong. You can have a look at our website:
http://globalresistance.webs.com/
We have a lot of contact with Jews in Israel and with Christian Africans as well. We are fighting the thread of Islam and we don't do anything illegal.
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The Order does not claim to have affiliation with Breivik. I recall the leader saying something along the lines of "if he had killed muslim extremists [he's pretty much a leftist], then I could say he might have been influenced by me".
I don't actually see any calls to kill muslims by the order, but that would certainly be the last thing to make me distrust them. I think they're leftists, bottom line.
The Order 777 is not right or leftwing. We are Christians, and we believe our civilization is under thread by Islamic fundamentalist. This has nothing to do with right or left!
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The Order 777 is not right or leftwing. We are Christians, and we believe our civilization is under thread by Islamic fundamentalist. This has nothing to do with right or left!
Is the guy on the lionheart blog the leader of the order?
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Oh and BTW leftists are the ones that always say "it's not about left or right". Political ideology is fundamental.
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Is the guy on the lionheart blog the leader of the order?
No.
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Oh and BTW leftists are the ones that always say "it's not about left or right". Political ideology is fundamental.
Not sure what you are talking about. I'am not calling myself 'rightwing'. Maybe you see yourself rightwing...? Wha do you think its all about? Is it all about left or right?
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No.
Then I'm thinking of someone else.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I'am not calling myself 'rightwing'. Maybe you see yourself rightwing...? Wha do you think its all about? Is it all about left or right?
Left wing people always say that left and right wing don't matter. Right-wing people know what the left wants, and wants nothing to do with them.
I do see myself as right wing. So does this whole forum basically.
All? There's more than one issue. As far as morality, the left wing says whatever you think is right is right, and that all cultures are equal. That's how they let mudrats into Europe and justify them killing you. Not everything is about left and right wing, but in politics, it is. Now there are right-wingers who are really left wingers, but if you actually hold a classical liberal ideology, instead of promoting social justice for murderers who do unjust things, politically, everything revolves around the morality this entails.