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Title: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 09, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
The earlier generations lived longer. Adam lived to be 930. Noah was 600 when the Flood began in 1656. Abraham was born in 1948. The earlier generations were spread out more but as the later generations started to live shorter, their descendants outlived many of them. I think Noah died while Abraham was alive. Shem, Noah's son, is Malkitzedek, King of Salem (Jerusalem) in Parashat Lech Lecha.

Shem and his son Ever also ran a yeshiva in Tzvat were Jacob studied. Abraham died when Jacob was a teenager. That's when Jacob bought the birthright. The lentil soup was the food he was serving Isaac while he was sitting shiva since it is a mourner's food. That day Esav also killed Nimrod, the grandson of Noah. Esav also commited adultery and either theft or idolatry that day. I might be idolatry since those 3 are the 3 cardinal sins. I guess the adultery was that he raped a married woman.

Esav killed Nimrod to steal the garment of Adam. Nimrod took it from Noah. It was passed down. The same garment is also the "coat of many colors".

Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: muman613 on September 09, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
Jewish YearCivil YearHistoric Event
19481813 BCEAbraham born
20th Generation
19961765 BCEThe Tower of Babel
20061755 BCENoah Dies
20181743 BCECovenant with
Abraham
20231738 BCEAbraham settles in Canaan
20481713 BCEIsaac Born
21st Generation
Abraham circumcises himself
Sodom & Gomorrah destroyed
20841677 BCEIsaac prepared as sacrafice
Sarah dies
21081653 BCEJacob born
22nd Generation
21231638 BCEAbraham dies

http://www.akhlah.com/jewish-traditions/timeline/
Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Zelhar on September 09, 2013, 06:13:58 PM
I have done the calculations once myself, I posted them here sometime ago too on another thread. Shem was alive and if I remember correctly even outlived Abraham. I think he lived till 777 or so.

There it is again:


Gen     Name            YOB        AAF     AAD     YOD         
1       Adam            1          130     930     931         
2       Shet            130        105     912     1042           
3       Enosh           235        90      905     1140           
4       Kenan           325        70      910     1235   
5       Mehalel         395        65      895     1290
6       Jered           460        162     962     1422           
7       Khanoch         622        65      365     987           
8       Metushelach     687        187     969     1656*           
9       Lemech          874        182     777     1651           
10      Noakh           1056       502     950     2006           
11      shem            1558       100     600     2158           
12      Arpaxad         1658       35      438     2096           
13      Shelakh         1693       30      433     2126           
14      Ever            1723       34      464     2187           
15      Peleg           1757       30      239     1996           
16      Reu             1787       32      239     2026           
17      Serug           1819       30      230     2049           
18      Nakhor          1849       29      148     1997           
19      Tarakh          1878       70      205     2083           
20      Abraham         1948       100     175     2123           
21      Yitzkhak        2048       60      180     2228           
22      Jaakob          2108               147     2255           
23      Jehuda                                     
24      Peretz                                 
25      Khetzron                               
26      Ram                                     
27      Aminadav                           
28      Nakhshon                           
29      Salma   
30      Boaz   
31      Obed                                       
32      Yishay                                     
33      David                                       
34      Shlomo                                     
35                                             
36                                             
37                                             
38                                         
39                                         
40                   

notes:
Gen=generation, YOB=year of birth, AAF=age at fatherhood, AAD=age at Death
YOD=year of death.   

* 1656 is the year of the flood.
Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 09, 2013, 09:52:57 PM
You can see the chart of when each generation lived in the back of the ArtScroll Tanach.

Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 09, 2013, 10:18:49 PM
What blows my mind is that Abraham was born 1948. In the secular calendar, wasn't that when Israel gained its independence?
Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: muman613 on September 09, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Dan on September 09, 2013, 10:18:49 PM
What blows my mind is that Abraham was born 1948. In the secular calendar, wasn't that when Israel gained its independence?

That is a fact...
Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 10, 2013, 12:16:37 AM
Quote from: Dr. Dan on September 09, 2013, 10:18:49 PM
What blows my mind is that Abraham was born 1948. In the secular calendar, wasn't that when Israel gained its independence?


Also, he was 48 during the story of the Tower of Babel.

48 + 48 = 96.

Israel was 48 years old in the year 1996 C.E..

Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on September 10, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
Quote from: Binyamin Yisrael on September 10, 2013, 12:16:37 AM


Also, he was 48 during the story of the Tower of Babel.

48 + 48 = 96.

Israel was 48 years old in the year 1996 C.E..


 LoL what should 1996 mean?
 
Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 10, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on September 10, 2013, 05:57:27 PM

LoL what should 1996 mean?


Nothing. I just remember thinking in 1996 that Israel was 48 years old and founded in 1948.

Title: Re: I think Noah did meet Abraham. Shem certainly did.
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on September 10, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on September 10, 2013, 05:57:27 PM

 LoL what should 1996 mean?
Netanyahu was elected.  Man, the Torah is one mathematical and mystical book!