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Title: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
Please post any Kahanist Rabbis you know.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Lisa on November 17, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
There was a global moderator here at one point named Lubab.  He then got into the 9/11 truther stuff, and eventually realized it was all bunk. 

I met him a few times.  He's a very smart young man.  But he has some areas of disagreement with JTF from what I remember.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
Ok, he is a young man and a Kahanist Rabbi? Or just a knowledgeable young man but not a Rabbi?

 Does he make video's or writings or anything related to Torah of Rav Kahane?

 I don't remember if I asked Chaim about the JTF Rabbi that once was and whatever happened to him?

 This is him speaking from about 5 minutes and on. I remember seeing his Or Harayon video's on JTF and on youtube (and Flix) but I don't know how to find them now.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDs3N-8_B-g
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
(I would just like to see a list of people/or video's) and make it easier to search and know in general. Also the video and the guy above (Post above) what is his name? It would be easier to search.

This is Rabbi Yehuda Richter, student of Rabbi Kahane and mentions and teaches his teachings.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw1yn4NnJhE
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:30:50 PM
-Was Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira part of Kach and with Rabbi Kahane? He was the one who wrote "The Kings Torah". Does he associate with any Kahanists?

- Also Rabbi Ido Alba comes to mind (Rabbi of Hevron).

Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:35:02 PM
- Rabbi Baruch Kahane (son of Rav Kahane)
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on November 17, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
He was back last January...


https://jtf.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=33
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:41:12 PM
Rabbi Shmu'el HaKohen? (Name came up, have no clue who he is and can't find any shiurim or anything by him, but apparently he spoke for a memorial of Rav Benyamin Kahane ZTL HYD) and was posted here at this forum.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:50:34 PM
- Rabbi Yehuda Kreuser


His name is (I asked earlier)  הרב אריאל לוי
Rabbi Ariel Levi

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cluqdsWfuKw
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 05:58:37 PM
if anyone is known (or unknown) just post it, it would be good to have a list and reference soo perhaps in the future they can be searched and listened to.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 17, 2013, 07:36:16 PM
Perhaps Semi-Kahanist. Also taught at Rav Kahane's Yeshiva.
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cePM18Yvp8
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: edu on December 03, 2013, 02:13:00 AM
The #2 man on Rabbi Kahane's Kach party list was Rabbi Yisrael Ariel.
Today he heads Machon Hamikdash (The Temple Institute).
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 03, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
The #2 man on Rabbi Kahane's Kach party list was Rabbi Yisrael Ariel.
Today he heads Machon Hamikdash (The Temple Institute).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IAlClQqh90
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 04, 2013, 05:36:37 PM
Maybe this was back then, but Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi praises Rabbi Kahana here (1 hour ten minutes to 1:13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJIvheTKrM
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 04, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
Maybe this was back then, but Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi praises Rabbi Kahana here (1 hour ten minutes to 1:13)


 Is the guy asking the question from JTF? Sounds familiar. (Maybe Yosef Ben Meir is his name? or actually someone else).
 Side note where can we find past shows from Chaim and/or past shows Chaim with guests.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 08, 2013, 05:34:14 PM
Possibly Rav Dov Lior?  I'm not sure.   Btw, I seem to remember the haredi propaganda got to Rabbi Mizrahi and he had some negative simplistic things to say about Rav Kahane?  No?
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 08, 2013, 06:39:22 PM
I don't know, but he has been praising the Satmar rebbe, and saying that Satmar love him, so it's not impossible that it's related. He said that you aren't allowed to live in Judea and Samaria, that Arabs have the merit to stay in Israel, that we can give land and it doesn't matter because G-d will give it backs if we deserve it, being the incorrect, in my opinion, judgments on his teachings, and the only correct one I know of is that not all Jews really do go to heaven. I've never heard him attacking him directly though.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 10, 2013, 10:20:08 PM
This guy seems to be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3IsPvfoaqk
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 10, 2013, 10:42:03 PM
This guy seems to be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3IsPvfoaqk

 Are you serious? I'm 3 minutes into the video and already he mentioned about Hilonim, Haredim and MUSLIMS all getting together.

 Anyway the title doesn't even mention him as a Rabbi, although no big deal, but anyway what I would like to see in this thread is not random people and Rabbis who have some shiurim on various topics and such, or who have said something right-wing at one time or another (yes their are many out their), I would like to see those who either are or claimed to be part of KACH, or with the JDL or with Rav Kahane. Those who openly espouse to be "Kahanists" or are or were connected to him. That is all.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 10, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Possibly Rav Dov Lior?  I'm not sure.   Btw, I seem to remember the haredi propaganda got to Rabbi Mizrahi and he had some negative simplistic things to say about Rav Kahane?  No?

 According to Chaim-

"Rabbi Dov Lior and Rabbi Melamed are not Kahanists and have never claimed to be. Even though they are not Kahanists, I greatly respected and loved them as talmidei chachamim (Talmudic sages). "
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 10, 2013, 11:01:38 PM
This name came up, I even mentioned it earlier myself although I don't know much or anything about him  (Rabbi) "Avraham Toledano"

 is an Israeli politician. He was the Mashgiach ruchani of the Yeshivat Haraayon Hayehudi and was number four on the Kach Knesset list in 1988. He was briefly the leader of Kach after Rabbi Meir Kahane was murdered and before Baruch Marzel took over.


Mashgiach ruchani (Hebrew משגיח רוחני) or mashgiach for short, means a spiritual supervisor or guide. It is a title which usually refers to a rabbi who has an official position within a yeshiva and is responsible for the non-academic areas of yeshiva students' lives.



(Anti-Kach article, yet has some good info. mentioning him and
http://roshpinaproject.com/2010/01/27/sanhedrin-noahide-court-brainchild-of-kach-terror-leader/


Mentions
-  Rabbi Michael Bar-Ron.  He is a Rabbi that Dan Ben Noah mentioned a number of times here as well. Mainly Teimani Rabbi.
http://www.torathmoshe.com/2012/07/our-total-non-affiliation-with-dor-deah/

 Also Rabbi Toledano, the last name is a famous Moroccan family of Talmedi Hachamim. Perhaps more connections as well.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 01:15:02 AM
Rabbi Moshe Parry was not directly associate with Kach or Kahane, but he is a Kahanist. He is the first Rabbi who introduced me to the Kahanist ideology. It is true that at first I rejected the idea, and I remember walking out of one of his talks, but over the years I have grown to understand and think Rabbi Parry is a good spokesman for the Kahanist message.

I know a group of people who come up north (Bay Area) from L.A. who know Rabbi Parry more intimately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYv4ut8fGg8
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 01:17:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6lXAEvPCQE

PS: It strikes me as a sign that in this video the Rabbis mentioned Shanghai. This week my company informed me there is a possibility I may have to go to Shanghai (and I don't want to go)...
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 01:52:55 AM
Rabbi Parry is quite an activist... Here he is at a protest...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLlRlAU9nAs
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:00:56 AM
A couple more from Rabi Parry, unless anyone objects..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=976rQPtF3uM
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:16:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMDZNE1TaWY
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:20:34 AM
Of course Rabbi Parry is not a fan of the obamo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eda0gFd-WWk
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:31:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpT8k-j2Fsc
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 11, 2013, 02:36:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMDZNE1TaWY

Do you have longer lectures from him?
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:37:45 AM
I am just searching on YouTube... He has a bunch of stuff on his channel, but not like long lectures...

Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:38:32 AM
Here is an 8 minute video... Havent seen it yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYbb4oogLpU
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:47:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rlr2Tzxx58
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 11, 2013, 02:51:25 AM
Ok I went through his facebook page. He is as Kahanist as it gets, but likes JDL Canada. This statement caught my eye:

"We need a JDL of the U.S.A. again... you are a great role model Meir... you even have the right first name..."

A little unpolished, but if there is to be a JDL, it needs a rabbi to make sure things are in line, and maybe JTF should contact him. If there ever was an opportunity for resurgence, it's on the helm of the knockout crisis, and it may very well be the last opportunity, so JTF should contact this rabbi and get it going.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWP23Fr6bD0

Shalom LKZ,

I still have the # of a Rabbi who may be able to get me into contact with him... Last time I talked to that Rabbi I was thinking about asking him about Rabbi Parry but didn't for some reason.

Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 11, 2013, 03:06:33 AM
You can talk to him on Facebook. Any questions you have or something to say?
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 03:18:39 AM
One problem LKZ.... I DONT DO FACEBOOK... It's a mental thing...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGVYEwq5a6w
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 03:28:18 AM
Baruch Hashem, Hallelukah! Selah!

I never saw this before, I am not sure if this is about Kahane, but this is the Rabbi who I know who knows Rabbi Parry (who I mentioned above)... Rabbi Kaufman was my 1st Orthodox Rabbi for almost 5 years... I see him whenever he comes up from LA...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjvlTAYFhuo
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 11, 2013, 04:50:28 AM
One problem LKZ.... I DONT DO FACEBOOK... It's a mental thing...

There's a lot of immodesty there, to start with. What do you want to ask or say to him? I will deliver the message. You can also message me what you want to say, or I can ask for info that will allow you to email his facebook account, or you can contact him yourself, or I can find his email.

I already know you don't like facebook. You are not in a hole because you don't have access.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on December 11, 2013, 08:59:11 AM
Rabbi Mordechai Friedman
Rabbi Moshe Antelman
Rabbi Moshe Brown
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 05:43:02 PM
Although he is not considered a Kahanist I recently heard a lecture by Rabbi Mordechai Aderet in which he basically said that Jews and Arabs cannot live together, that Jews should not sell land to arabs, and that the only way to achieve peace is by removing the arabs from the land...

(http://www.torahanytime.com/wp-content/uploads/speakers/846c749f20de8029811f9831a388300f.gif)

http://www.torahanytime.com/speakers/speaker-detail-listview/?id=1

This is the lecture which I heard this from...

http://www.torahanytime.com/video/parashat-vayigash-for-the-sake-of-hashem/
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 11, 2013, 06:24:51 PM
Muman please, don't just spam this thread. I asked for Kahanist Rabbis, the last guy you put is some kabbalistic hocus pocus type.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 11, 2013, 07:52:03 PM
Tag,

Rabbi Aderet is a very good Rabbi and I have no idea why you call him a 'hocus-pocus' Rabbi? I introduced him as not being a Kahanist, yet his Torah teaching is similar in that he calls for the removal of the arabs.

Rabbi Aderet is well respected and should not be discounted with such lashon hara..



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3519678,00.html

Quote
Rabbi Mordechai Aderet of Monsey, New York toured Sderot Sunday and handed out NIS 200 (about $58) bills to the residents of the Qassam-Battered city.

 
Residents flocked to the open-air market after rumors of the benevolent rabbi's gesture spread throughout the southern city. 

(http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02012008/1413730/aderet2_wa.jpg)
Handing out money at the market (Photo: Zeev Trachtman)

 

One of the rabbi's assistants told Ynet the rabbi received word of the city's despair and offered to help the residents out and assist the small business owners who have suffered greatly from the incessant rocket fire.

 
Young girls in revealing attire who approached the rabbi were given the money but were asked to "dress more modestly and preserve the Jewish tradition."

 
Following his visit to the market the rabbi later made his way to additional neighborhoods in Sderot and handed out more money to the locals.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 11, 2013, 08:27:47 PM
Tag,

Rabbi Aderet is a very good Rabbi and I have no idea why you call him a 'hocus-pocus' Rabbi? I introduced him as not being a Kahanist, yet his Torah teaching is similar in that he calls for the removal of the arabs.


 Like I said I specifically made this thread for Kahanist Rabbis, at least a list or soo, not to have any and all random Rabbis on. You can open your own thread with this or any other guy. That is all I asked.
 And I said and say "hocus pocus" because he is very very kabbalistic and I'm sure would never discuss the real issues in a rational and pragmatic way.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on December 11, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 12, 2013, 04:35:07 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPyiLo1m4U0
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: muman613 on December 13, 2013, 12:35:47 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPyiLo1m4U0

Didn't you see that I posted this in the 'video study' thread last night?

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,73080.msg617800.html#msg617800
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 13, 2013, 01:47:37 PM
Didn't you see that I posted this in the 'video study' thread last night?


 Yea I know. That is where I got it from. I also remember him from before, thanks for the heads up in posting him.
 Like I said earlier I would like to have this thread basically a list of Kahanists Rabbis (or people teaching his teachings) in one thread, or those who are or were connected to his ideology. Its a good thread of reference I guess, that is why I didn't and don't want the extras such as that Kabbalah guy or others not relevant to Rabbi Kahane etc. (You can open different threads with those).
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 17, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
This guy said a lot that Chaim says here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8OqDsp7ZW0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 17, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
LKZ again too hocus pocus, and very pacifistic.

 Listen at 10 minutes, on what to do he only mentions learning Torah and not assimilating. All great and true things but not the complete Kahanist message. Rav Kahane was about going beyond that and not just expecting the geula and the Temple to just fall from the sky.
 I stoped at 10:54 and that is all I heard (both because I wanted to stop soon and because the video just froze now, but ookay).
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 18, 2013, 01:56:24 AM
LKZ again too hocus pocus, and very pacifistic.

 Listen at 10 minutes, on what to do he only mentions learning Torah and not assimilating. All great and true things but not the complete Kahanist message. Rav Kahane was about going beyond that and not just expecting the geula and the Temple to just fall from the sky.
 I stoped at 10:54 and that is all I heard (both because I wanted to stop soon and because the video just froze now, but ookay).

Please do not speak evil on the Rav. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aSRKh-3JklM
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 18, 2013, 12:12:56 PM
Please do not speak evil on the Rav. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aSRKh-3JklM


 Like I said its not a Kahanist message and he isn't a Kahanist Rabbi. The purpose of my thread and I reiterate yet again is to have Kahanist Rabbis and Kahanist theme here, you can of-course open your own threads with these different messages.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Israel Chai on December 18, 2013, 07:12:34 PM

 Like I said its not a Kahanist message and he isn't a Kahanist Rabbi. The purpose of my thread and I reiterate yet again is to have Kahanist Rabbis and Kahanist theme here, you can of-course open your own threads with these different messages.

I have no problem with that statement. If Chaim doesn't even know any Kahanist rabbis though, its a thin thread unless we look for things that agree with us from other rabbis.
Title: Re: Kahanist Rabbis?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 18, 2013, 07:16:45 PM
I have no problem with that statement. If Chaim doesn't even know any Kahanist rabbis though, its a thin thread unless we look for things that agree with us from other rabbis.

 Those who were or are connected to the message of Rabbi Kahane ZTL HYD. If we agree with them or not, etc. If they were connected to KACH or Rabbi Kahane or JDL. This thread has some for sure and if more found then post.