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Title: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: kyel on November 24, 2013, 10:04:54 PM
Iran and the U.S. have been holding secret talks for over a year. If only Israel would realize we do not need the U.S. as an ally with the Imam in Chief holding those dedicated to the true American principles hostages.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512641/Revealed-The-secret-high-level-talks-Iran-US-led-historic-agreement-suspend-nuclear-program.html#ixzz2lXuMLFhy
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Israel Chai on November 24, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
President after president has asked Israel to give land to terrorists. The Americans have more succesfully achieved conquests of Israel than Arabs have. You're insane if you ever thought this was an ally.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on November 24, 2013, 10:59:05 PM
The majority of American people ARE Israel's ally! We will take back our country!
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 24, 2013, 11:00:18 PM
Kennedy was the only Pro-Israel President. Even Reagan was far from perfect. He had relations with Saudi Arabia and he didn't free Pollard.

Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 24, 2013, 11:06:39 PM
The following Presidents hurt Israel during wars against Arab Nazi countries: Truman (1948), Eisenhower (1956), Johnson (1967), and Nixon (1973). Ford and Carter pressured Israel to give Sinai back to Muslim Nazi Egypt. Reagan didn't free Pollard but he pretty much left Israel alone on other issues. Bush, Sr. interfered in Israeli's election in 1992 ensuring Rabin won which led to Oslo. Bush, Jr. was against Israel but didn't interfere as much. Sharon did the Expulsion pretty much on his own. Regarding Clinton and Obama, I don't even have to comment since we know from current events that they are like Jimmy Carter, maybe even more clever versions of Carter, who only served one term.


Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Nachus on November 24, 2013, 11:24:38 PM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                                       :fist:


 Whether Israel needs the US or not, the current "administration's" evil, sick policies are doing harm.
 It is high-time that there is regime change led by genuinely nationalistic leaders like Ted Cruz
 who would ensure that America and Israel would be real allies. This is also the only realistic possibility
 of the US doing the 180 that will be essential for it's return to greatness.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Israel Chai on November 24, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
The majority of American people ARE Israel's ally! We will take back our country!

That's true to an extent. The American people haven't been able to change America's stance on Israel, and their support has lead Israel to trusting America, leaving her vulnerable to America's politicans.

Best of luck with America. Until that day, Israel should break ties.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 24, 2013, 11:58:55 PM
America needs Israel. Israel doesn't need America. Just read Genesis 12.

Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: kyel on November 25, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
That's true to an extent. The American people haven't been able to change America's stance on Israel, and their support has lead Israel to trusting America, leaving her vulnerable to America's politicans.

Best of luck with America. Until that day, Israel should break ties.

 I don't believe that the majority of the American religious people have even read a bible or will only pick and choose from the bible and probably don't even know what modern Israel means and how important it is to biblical prophecy or that a large portion of the bible is about Israel. Many churches are to busy indoctrinating homosexuality or even having homosexual preachers saying that Gd made them this way (yes I actually met someone who said their "Gay Priest" said gd made them gay). The other part of America is largely indifferent and uneducated about the nation of Israel to even care.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 25, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Yeah death to America! Americans are scum!
Filthy goy pigs!
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Israel Chai on November 25, 2013, 12:45:44 AM
Yeah death to America! Americans are scum!
Filthy goy pigs!

...

At any rate, I wish they would stop imposing death on Jews.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 25, 2013, 12:46:56 AM
Yeah death to America! Americans are scum!
Filthy goy pigs!


You should attribute that to Arabs and change goy to infidels. Otherwise you make JTF look like we racially hate goyim.

Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Israel Chai on November 25, 2013, 12:56:23 AM


You should attribute that to Arabs and change goy to infidels. Otherwise you make JTF look like we racially hate goyim.

OK equally weird.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 25, 2013, 01:03:21 AM
OK equally weird.


You mean because the quote is out of place. But in the right context, that actually is what Arabs say.

In Iran they always say "Death to America! Americans are scum and filthy infidel pigs!". They even showed them on ABC News saying Death To America even while their President signed a taqiyya agreement with BHO. I wonder if BHO himself was doing an act of taqiyya in the agreement being that he himself is a Muslim.


Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: kahaneloyalist on November 25, 2013, 01:11:42 AM
Kennedy was the only Pro-Israel President. Even Reagan was far from perfect. He had relations with Saudi Arabia and he didn't free Pollard.


Kennedy was no prize, he put immense pressure on Israel to abandon her nuclear program.

Ironically enough since in many ways he was a poor president Lyndon Johnson was probably the most pro-Israel president.

But regardless the alliance has long since run its course and was never good for Israel anyway. We Jews need to accept that we are meant to be a people who dwell alone without alliances.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Israel Chai on November 25, 2013, 01:16:47 AM


You mean because the quote is out of place. But in the right context, that actually is what Arabs say.

In Iran they always say "Death to America! Americans are scum and filthy infidel pigs!". They even showed them on ABC News saying Death To America even while their President signed a taqiyya agreement with BHO. I wonder if BHO himself was doing an act of taqiyya in the agreement being that he himself is a Muslim.

No because it reminds me of people that would come onto groups that would say purposely nutty things to make the conservative group look bad.

Racially hate goyim? No Jew or goy thinks goyim is a race unless they're brainwashed. That's like a statement to get people to group around hating us. I think you're a spy sent to make us look bad by that statement.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: nessuno on November 25, 2013, 08:27:53 AM
Kennedy was the only Pro-Israel President. Even Reagan was far from perfect. He had relations with Saudi Arabia and he didn't free Pollard.
Kennedy  :o :yuck:
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betray U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: TruthSpreader on November 25, 2013, 11:29:28 AM
Kennedy was the only Pro-Israel President. Even Reagan was far from perfect. He had relations with Saudi Arabia and he didn't free Pollard.

Not only that, he also saved Yasser Arafat's life. If I were Reagan, I would've killed the damn bastard.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 25, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Regan also condemned Israel for bombing Iraqi nuclear facilities.
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on November 25, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Racially hate goyim? No Jew or goy thinks goyim is a race unless they're brainwashed. That's like a statement to get people to group around hating us. I think you're a spy sent to make us look bad by that statement.
     

OK, then take out the word racially. But saying dirty goy is like if goyim say dirty Jew. That's what I meant.

Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on November 25, 2013, 01:49:08 PM
Yeah death to America! Americans are scum!
Filthy goy pigs!
:::D
Title: Re: Over a Year of Betrayal U.S. is not an ally!
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 25, 2013, 03:29:10 PM
I was just taking what sounded offensive and lighten it up a bit.
The US is not the enemy. The AMERICAN people didn't vote for this ape. It was the internal enemies and some American idiots.

Just imagine calling Israel names just because some Jews are offensive. Like that guy who said that the goy dog exists only to serve der juden.